________________________________________________________________________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ S P E C T R O P O P ______________ ______________ ______________ ________________________________________________________________________ dynamic depth control and reliable stylus tracking ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 10 messages in this issue of Spectropop. Topics in this Digest Number 343: 1. Re: Fifth Avenue Band From: "Michael Greenberg" 2. basslines... From: "Kingsley Abbott" 3. Re: Bass Riffs From: "John Lester" 4. Re: Roll Right Stones? From: Scott Swanson 5. Ronnie Spector From: John Rausch 6. Re: The Brunswick Years From: James Botticelli 7. Re: The Brunswick Years From: Michael Rashkow 8. Re: Riff pioneers From: "John Lester" 9. basslines From: Alan Miller 10. Re: Riff pioneers From: "Keith Beach" ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2002 17:03:28 -0000 From: "Michael Greenberg" Subject: Re: Fifth Avenue Band Kingsley & all - I went to school with Peter Galway and Kenny Altman (later of the Fifth Avenue Band) in NYC's Greenwich Village. They were a couple of grades ahead of me. The first band I remember them having was called (as I recall) the Witnesses, Ltd., but they changed the name to The Strangers to not conflict with Sam Butera's Witnesses. The Fifth Avenue Band was part of the West Village music scene that included the Lovin' Spoonful, the Blues Magoos and other groups that played at the Night Owl Cafe. Peter was also in a group called Ohio Knox (their CD may also have been reissued as an import) and I recall there was some overlap between the personnel in his groups and Jake and the Family Jewels and a couple of Jake's band were in the Quinames Band with Danny Kootch. Allan "Jake" Jacobs is one of my all time favorite musicians. He was a member of the Magicians with Garry Bonner (recently discussed on the list) and Alan Gordon, played for awhile with the Fugs and then went on to some wonderful recordings under his own name. In addition to the two Bunky and Jake LP's ("Bunky & Jake" and "L.A.M.F." originally on Mercury and since reissued on Japanese CD), the two Jake and the Family Jewels LP's ("Jake & The Family Jewels" and "The Big Moose Calls His Baby Sweet Lorraine" on Polydor) are filled with great music. They also later did a single of "Maybe" and "City Kids" (a Jake composition) on NRBQ's Red Rooster label. Peter produced a Bunky & Jake childrens' music cassette called "oo- wee little children" sometime within the last decade or so. He did a bunch of solo LP's and CD's, put together a various artists CD compilation of Laura Nyro songs and, as I understand it, now lives on the West Coast. Here are a couple of links worth looking at: one on Jake: http://www.tctv.ne.jp/members/m-site/jake/ and one on Peter (he enjoys some popularity in Japan and played there, along with Jake a few years back): http://www.tctv.ne.jp/members/m-site/petergallway/index.html Peter has a website at www.petergalway.com I'm a bit fuzzy on whether or not Kenny Altman did a solo LP - for some reason I think he might have done one on Warner Bros, but I may just be thinking of his work on Peter's first solo LP. I remember he played with John Sebastian on one or two recordings. This musical family tree has more roots and branches, but that'll do for now! Michael Greenberg -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2002 14:58:30 -0000 From: "Kingsley Abbott" Subject: basslines... A good example of an easy repeating bassline carrying a song well has to be on The Miracles "I Think We Can Make It", the lead off track on their "Lost And Found" CD of rarities from 1999. Recorded in Oct 62, the notes suggest it was James Jamerson. Changing the subject, if you get a chance give a listen to "Autumn Song" by Al Kooper from his recent "Rare/Well Done" double CD. He wrote and demoed it in the sixties, but re-did it for this new collection...very Brian Wilson, and nice! Kingsley Abbott -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 3 Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 00:42:26 -0000 From: "John Lester" Subject: Re: Bass Riffs Hans wrote: > Perhaps it's time for a poll: The 20 Greatest Pop/Rock > Basslines of all time. Paul Woods offered: > The Marvelettes - "Don't Mess With Bill" is a > personal favourite. Try James Jamerson on "A Bird in The Hand (Is Worth Two In The Bush)." Yeah...that is the bees knees! In fact...YEAH, YEAH-YEAH, YEAHHHHH!!!!!!! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 4 Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2002 10:19:41 -0800 From: Scott Swanson Subject: Re: Roll Right Stones? >I found a cover version of the Beach Boy's "I Get Around" >on Audio Galaxy which is supposedly "The Rolling Stones >with Brian Jones". Sounds like a bit of studio noodling >( under two minutes in length) low fidelity but cool >nothing the less. Does anyone know if this is real thing? This is the Andrew Oldham Orchestra version, recorded in 1964 and released on the album "East Meets West: The Famous Hits Of The Beach Boys and The Four Seasons". I personally doubt that Brian Jones played on it, though. To my ears it sounds more like Jimmy Page. Hope this helps, Scott -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 5 Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2002 21:12:17 -0500 From: John Rausch Subject: Ronnie Spector Anyone catch Ronnie on Hollywood Squares ? Guess it finally aired today? John Rausch -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 6 Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2002 17:42:48 EST From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: The Brunswick Years In a message dated 1/8/02, Dave Feldman writes: > Sidney Joe Qualis ("How Can You Say Goodbye") which > is a clear, er, homage to Al Green. Anyone know > anything about Qualis? Not much, but here's what I have on him...He hails from Jacknash Ark, and he had three songs on the U.S. chart: Dakar 4530 Where The Lillies Grow reaching #30 on the U.S. R&B charts on 3.02.74 and staying there about 10 weeks. The second single, Dakar 4537, hit the charts on 10.19. 74 and was a two-sided hit which in total hit the #47 spot on the American Soul chart. It was called "How Can You Say Goodbye" bw "I Enjoy Loving You"...Neither record even grazed the Pop chart. Hope that helps... JB/Matrix # Weenie today -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 7 Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2002 18:29:28 EST From: Michael Rashkow Subject: Re: The Brunswick Years In a message dated 1/8/2002, Dave Feldman writes: > The poor Chi-Lites were particular victims, making > records in the mold of whatever the Temptations were > doing at the time. > ...and getting beat up by Nat Tarnopol and his henchmen. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 8 Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 01:37:11 -0000 From: "John Lester" Subject: Re: Riff pioneers Billy G. Spradlin wrote: > Another favorite Motown Bassline - The Velvelettes > "A Bird In The Hand (Is Worth Two In the Bush)". > While the song isnt that exceptional, that bassline > sucks you right into the groove of the song. (Was > there ever a Motown 45 recorded in the 60's that just > plain Sucked??!) I missed this posting first time round but I agree with you Billy about the bassline.....but we do differ cos I actually consider it to be an exceptional song too. The girls had a wonderful dance routine to go with it too which lead singer Cal Street told me, used to send the audience wild. Cal demonstrated it for me one day in HMV in New York (about 72nd street) and she had me excited, I can tell you. Did Motown ever make a 45 that sucked....yeah, well I though that about "Where did our love go"...but hey, who am I to make judgements!!! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 9 Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 04:18:47 -0500 From: Alan Miller Subject: basslines Giving the "basslines" question a short consideration i would suggest The Night - Frankie Valli reach out in the darkness - Friend & Lover speaking of happiness - Gloria Lynne bring down the birds - Herbie Hancock (maybe only just qualifies......) Alan -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 10 Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 09:53:17 -0000 From: "Keith Beach" Subject: Re: Riff pioneers John Lester wrote: >Did Motown ever make a 45 that sucked....yeah, well I >though that about "Where did our love go"...but hey, who >am I to make judgements!!! GASP!!! John's beloved Miss Ross criticised by John himself...but hey, how about "The Happening", a repellent bit of music I despise to this day. Keith Beach -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- End