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There are 15 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. RE: Aussie girl groups CD
From: Lindsay Martin
2. Re: Kapp
From: Mike Rashkow
3. Re: Julie London - Louie, Louie
From: Martin Roberts
4. Dimension Dolls / Cynthia Weil sings
From: Guy Lawrence
5. Re: Del / Wilburys
From: Andrew Hickey
6. Lost outsider demo in LA
From: Kim Cooper
7. more on Del
From: Phil Milstein
8. Re: Canterbury
From: sevenleggedelvis
9. Re: Chiffons, "Nobody Knows What's Goin' On (In My Mind But Me)"
From: Stephanie
10. Re: Julie London
From: Bob Rashkow
11. Re: Reparata's Writers
From: Bob Rashkow
12. I Wish I Were
From: Mark
13. Re: One Less Bell to Answer
From: Charles
14. Kapp Records
From: Herbert Maton
15. Saying "Hello"
From: Herbert Maton
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 07:12:28 +1000
From: Lindsay Martin
Subject: RE: Aussie girl groups CD
Natasha, In my post last week I suggested Time Warp in Sydney.
The CD is listed at their page:
http://www.timewarp.com.au/table_new/table_new_CD_pic.html
Their site isn't easy to navigate. If you want to order, see
this page: http://www.timewarp.com.au/html/about.html
Lindsay
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 17:36:27 EDT
From: Mike Rashkow
Subject: Re: Kapp
Geoff Kaiser writes:
> Other artists on Kapp included Jane Morgan, Ruby &the Romantics,
> Brian Hyland, Louis Armstrong (including the hit 'Hello Dolly'),
> and Sonny & Cher.
...AND Johnny Cymbal (Mr. Bassman)
Rashkovsky
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 21:29:31 +0100
From: Martin Roberts
Subject: Re: Julie London - Louie, Louie
Mick Patrick boasted:
> but you just ain't lived until you've heard Julie tackle
> the punk classic "Louie, Louie", a high camp culture clash
> arranged, conducted and produced by Tommy Oliver.
I'd have said high Spector more than high camp but either way,
one of, if not THE favourite track I've ever heard at musica.
I've lived a lot not a little!
Thanks for playing it Mick and for Ed Townsend's "Down Home" -
just as good as I remember. At the risk of asking you to take
over musica.... how about Ed's version of "Tell Her (Him)"?
Martin
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 23:20:33 +0100
From: Guy Lawrence
Subject: Dimension Dolls / Cynthia Weil sings
Sundazed's expanded version of the "Dimension Dolls" album is finally
being released. Details are at http://www.sundazed.com It has several
bonus tracks - it's good to see one of my personal favourites, "Making
With The Magilla" getting another airing!
Talking of silly girl group records, I've recently been organising all
the great music played to musica and one track in particular stood out.
Mick seemed a little reticent about posting it at the time, and nobody
ever mentioned it, but I'd just like to say that I thought "The Toddle"
by Miss Prim and the Classroom Kids was the absolute bees-knees! Keep
'em coming Mick - what was the flip?
Guy
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 00:05:09 +0100
From: Andrew Hickey
Subject: Re: Del / Wilburys
Phil Milstein wrote:
> but I believe Del died before anything substantial could be made
> of his membership, and speculate further that his death, hard on
> the heels of Roy's, "killed" the Wilburys concept in its tracks.
> The surviving members probably didn't want to run the risk of
> jinxing yet another Blessed Elder, such as Pitney or Dion or Lou
> Christie!
I doubt that - after all, Volume 3 came out... I think it was more
that Dylan in particular was fed up with the whole thing - he
apparently didn't like the fact that Volume 3 was essentially his
album, but with the Wilburys' name on it, or so I've heard...
--
http://stealthmunchkin.com
Stealth Munchkin play the Cavern, Liverpool, Wednesday
15th October As part of International Pop Overthrow.
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 15:44:24 -0700
From: Kim Cooper
Subject: Lost outsider demo in LA
I received the following email from a bereft friend. If you or any of
your record racoon friends should turn up this treasure, won't you
please email sad nephew Tracy at ace@actionbox.com?
thx,
Kim
hey, I know you hit the OOTClosets [Out of the Closet thrist shops] with
some regularity, so I was hoping you could do me a favor: I may have
inadvertantly given away to OOTC (in a ravaged old-style record album
book of Stan Kenton 78's) a very precious and funny family heirloom --
It is a demo my great uncles made of a "Patriotic Song" called MY FLAG.
It's a 45 rpm on a metal 10" disc, grooved on only one side. It has a
label from some Hollywood area recording studio with the title and the
author D.J. Dwyer. It really is a riot (I think it was my aging great
uncles' answer to the growing turmoil of the sixties) and it actually
contains the line "a mist comes to my eyes". Could you keep an eye out
for it in your travels and perhaps pass along the word to other cultural
artifact hunter / arbitragers you know? I would be most grateful and it
would corrrect the most regrettable instance of mistaken disposal in my
life.
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 16:42:42 +0000
From: Phil Milstein
Subject: more on Del
Bill Craig wrote:
> Was this the first Beatles cover by an American artist to chart?
> In either the UK or U.S.? I think the conventional wisdom says yes,
> but you guys might know of some obscure precursor.
I believe it was in Greg Shaw's liner notes to Sire's 2-LP Del
Shannon compilation that I first read that not only was this the
first U.S. cover of a Beatles song to chart, but the first even to be
released!
Art Longmire wrote:
> In an earlier post I mentioned that I had an article in "Hit
> Parader" magazine that featured a late 1966 or early '67 interview
> (in London) with Del Shannon. I went back and read the article last
> night and wanted to let Ken Silverwood know that the song discussed
> in the interview was "Silently" - you were right on the money as far
> as the title!
I don't mean to put you on the spot, Art, but any chance you could
post a scan of this article to the Photos section? I imagine a lot of
us would love to see the entire text, plus any illos that might
accompany it.
--Phil Milstein
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 23:44:08 -0000
From: sevenleggedelvis
Subject: Re: Canterbury
to: Stewart Mason
I don't know whether you are still looking for information about
other artists on the Canterbury label. Two of the artists who
appeared on the label before it closed are Lisa Miller and Sandy
Wynns. Lisa Miller previously recorded for Motown using the
name "Little Lisa" and later recorded "Never Gonna Let You Go" with
Sergio Mendes. Sandy Wynns is also known as Edna Wright, sister of
Darlene Love. Another Canterbury artist, Group Therapy, later
recorded for RCA.
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 00:01:15 -0000
From: Stephanie
Subject: Re: Chiffons, "Nobody Knows What's Goin' On (In My Mind But Me)"
I LOVE this song and it should have been a MUCH bigger hit I think
that the producer was getting into some serious Spector with this
one..it was way ahead of its time!!!
Stephanie
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 20:34:00 EDT
From: Bob Rashkow
Subject: Re: Julie London
Jim Nayder on Chicago's "Annoying Music Show" sound bite played Julie
London's version of "Louie, Louie" a few months ago. Lyrics cleaned
up. She's a great singer but it's painful to listen to, speaking for
myself. I would much prefer listening to Nancy Sinatra (or, for that
matter, Nancy WILSON!!!) cover "Yummy Yummy Yummy" (or, for that
matter, "Green Tambourine"! ! !)
Bobster
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 20:23:41 EDT
From: Bob Rashkow
Subject: Re: Reparata's Writers
Robert provided a fascinating discography for Reparata and the Delrons!
Anyone remember one of the first pressings of Jay and the Americans'
cover of "Walkin' in the Rain" circa Feb. 1970 had "SORRY REPARATA"
etched into the master groove? Their cover must have coincided with
Reparata's!
Bobster
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 21:19:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mark
Subject: I Wish I Were
A little nugget I got from Andy Kim this weekend at the show in
Cleveland this past weekend with Ron Dante. The song "I Wish I Were"
was inspired by Andy's parents marriage. He said his father was 30
years senior to his mother and that they caught a lot of grief in those
days for that. The idea for the song came to him as he realized just
how strange society's norms are about who, how and when people fall in
love.
Cheers
Mark
http://rondantefans.hyperboards.com
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 01:03:00 -0000
From: Charles
Subject: Re: One Less Bell to Answer
> Does anyone know if anyone recorded "One Less Bell to Answer"
> before the Fifth Dimension...
I know the answer to this one! In the late 1960s Keely Smith did a
version on either Atlantic or Atco . A few years ago, I downloaded a
MP3 of the original vinyl single off the 'net, - I think I still have
it on CDR, and please contact me if you want the MP3 so I can send it
to you. Charles
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 00:13:58 -0400 (EDT)
From: Herbert Maton
Subject: Kapp Records
I would like to add to the information regarding Kapp Records but from
a Canadian perspective.
When I started buying 45s in the summer of 1962, I bought Feelin' No
Pain by Paul Evans (Kapp 473) and Forgive Me (For Giving You Such A
Bad Time) by Babs Tino (Kapp 472). Phonodisc Records of Canada
distributed the label from then. Prior to that, I am unsure.
When Roses Are Red My Love by The You Know Who Group, Phonodisc
issued the single as Kapp FC-113. In the U. S., it was on Four Corners.
Phonodisc also distributed all the Motown issues under Tamla then on
Tamla Motown and issued James Brown (King) on Delta.
Herb
(from Toronto)
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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 00:26:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: Herbert Maton
Subject: Saying "Hello"
I guess I am the new kid on the block so to speak. Any way, what
I am posting here may have been covered before but I do not know that.
First of all, I want to introduce myself to this group. My name is
Herb and I was born and raised in Toronto, Ontario, Canada and still
here. I am 55 so my musical taste reflects the time period when I
was in my mid-teens.
During the summer of 1962, the interest in Pop/Rock & Roll clicked.
Though the music was all around me prior to that my interest did not
arise.
I would attend parties that my peers on the block would hold. Of
course, records would be playing and dancing would be happening. One
memory comes to mind in that one of the girls commented by saying the
Mashed Potato was a girl's dance while the Twist was a boy's. At
the time, I could not grasp how to make my feet do the Mashed Potato
and when doing the Twist my sides hurt.
By the summer, I took note that no one had anything current. To
remedy that, I bought my first 45 – The Loco-Motion by Little Eva. The
oddest thing was that I did not have a record player!
As a gift for passing into the next grade, my dad bought me a portable
phonograph record player (the kind with tubes with a speaker that
folded out and a lid the lifted up). He also bought a selection of
singles that Eaton's had.
When I brought the Little Eva disc to the next party, the party became
a blast. As my collection grew, I became a popular invitee. I
brought over (as they came out): He's A Rebel (The Crystals), Don't
Hang Up (The Orlons), The Monster Mash (Bobby Boris Pickett & the
Crypt-Kickers), Beechwood 4-5789 (The Marvelettes) just to name a few!
As time went on, buying 45s became a hobby. However, I only bought the
songs I heard on American Bandstand or that our local radio stations
played (see attached charts – being rather old they are rather dog eared,
etc.). As my 45s grew, I began to notice some trends. I was buying
singles on particular labels, namely, Cameo, Parkway, Tamla (Canadian
Tamla covered Motown and Gordy). I seemed to like vocalists in general,
female soloists & groups in particular.
By the end of 1963, another trend took me by surprise. My father asked
me 'why I don’t buy any white artists?' I really did not think much
of the question and I don't believe my father had racist tendencies.
However, my liking Black artists never registered. To me they provided
great music, voices and sounds. I did like white artists (The 4 Seasons,
The Dovells; and songs like, Johnny Get Angry, Vacation, The Push & Kick,
etc.).
1964 was the year of The Beatles and the British Invasion. While
everyone was going ga-ga over The Beatles, et al, I was the opposite.
The only Brit acts I liked were The Dave Clark 5 (saxophone in use)
and Dusty Springfield (soulful & female). As Cameo-Parkway fell to
the wayside, I blamed the Brits for that. (My opinion differs now).
As Rock & Roll fragmented into genres I did not groove to (Psychedelia,
Folk, Rock, etc), I was grateful that Motown and The Supremes were hot
as they were. It was then I turned more to R & B. My record purchases
reflected that.
Into the 70s, the Pop music scene seemed rather dull or tame to me.
That was when I turned to collecting, then sought out record mailers
who focused on the tunes of the past. After that, I got into hard-
core collecting. My focus was aimed at the Motown, Tamla, Soul, Gordy,
VIP and Philles labels. I took a stab at Cameo-Parkway then found out
not everything they put out was Rock & Roll/R&B in origin.
The only thing current for me was Soul or Black music then Disco.
After my label phase waned, a book came out in the early 80s entitled,
Girl Groups, A Story Of A Sound. I turned to that genre.
After seeing (several times), John Water's, Hairspray, (I loved that
movie and still do) and Ron Mann's, Twist, I turned to the dance
enre. Ev'rybody's Twistin' (Frank Sinatra), Watusi by The
Vibrations, The Elephant Walk by Donald Jenkins & the Delighters, etc.
Now, I am into CDs and surprisingly finding some of the stuff I've been
wanting. However, there's a lot of material yet not around (at least
to my eyes).
I will close for now hoping that you enjoyed reading this account.
Herb
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