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There are 18 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Tell Her
From: Mick Patrick
2. re: mystery lyrics
From: Susan
3. "Cold Summer" on musica
From: Mike Edwards
4. Lee Hazlewood in print
From: Phil Milstein
5. Re: Lee Hazlewood
From: brynneandscott
6. Dionne Warwick's "Message To Michael"
From: Stuffed Animal
7. The Dark Mystery of "Timothy" by The Buoys
From: Kurt
8. Re: Jerry Keller
From: Andrew
9. Re: The Dark Mystery of "Timothy" by The Buoys
From: Dan Hughes
10. Re: "Timothy" by The Buoys
From: Phil Milstein
11. Re:The Kingsmen
From: Guy Lawrence
12. The Feathers / Jack Keller
From: Bob Rashkow
13. Jack Nitzsche at Spectropop
From: Martin Roberts
14. Re: Lewis Sisters
From: Mick Patrick
15. Re: Tell Her
From: Mike Rashkow
16. The Dark Mystery of "Timothy" by The Buoys
From: Rat Pfink
17. Re: The Dark Mystery of "Timothy" by The Buoys
From: Claudia Cunningham
18. Surf and Hit
From: Simon White
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 09:53:07 +0100
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Re: Tell Her
Me:
> Okey, dokey. I've placed "Tell Her" by Ed Townsend in musica...
Phil Chapman:
> Yikes! - A black Jimmy Durante.
> Should those backing girls sound familiar, Mick?
Absolutely! To my ears, the chicks chanting "Sha da dap" sound
like Cissy Houston, Dee Dee Warwick and pals - my favourites!
I've now posted Gil Hamilton's rendition of "Tell Her (Him)" to
musica. The original version of the Exciters' song, it came out
just before Gil changed his name to Johnny Thunder and hit the
charts with "Loop De Loop". Details are:
Gil Hamilton "Tell Her" (Capitol 4766, 1962)
Written by Bert Russell (Bert Berns)
Conducted by Teacho Wiltshire
Produced by Manny Kellem
A Lookapoo Production
Click here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/files/musica/
Hamilton recorded previously for Fury and Vee Jay. Has anyone
heard those?
Hey la,
Mick Patrick
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 10:24:24 EDT
From: Susan
Subject: re: mystery lyrics
> This is a lyric snippet i remember from my childhood...I'm hoping
> someone here can help...
And the all-kowing Mr Glenn responded thusly:
> Susan, I'm offended you didn't come directly to me first for this! :-)
> This is the single:
> (One Of These Days) Sunday's Gonna' Come On Tuesday (Sheldon-Keller)/
> Baby The Rain Must Fall (Sheldon-Bernstein) - The New Establishment,
> Colgems 66-5006: 1969, Produced by Ernie Sheldon & Jack Keller (A-side),
> Ernie Sheldon (B-side); Arranged by Perry Botkin, Jr. (A-side), Don
> McGinnis (B-side)
> This ties in nicely with the Jack/Jerry Keller thread here.
Of course, Jeffrey, that's exactly why i did NOT come straight to you - i
wanted to make a contribution to the Keller thread....yeah, that's it....
;-)
THANK YOU! I can sleep better now!
Susan
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 19:48:51 -0000
From: Mike Edwards
Subject: "Cold Summer" on musica
Here's another entry in the "Keepin' The Summer Alive" series, "Cold
Summer" by Bud & Travis (Liberty, 1965). There's a lot of information
about Bob & Travis (who had had close to a dozen 45s out on Liberty
between 1959 and 1965) at: http://eserver.org/home/tom/budandtravis.html
"Cold Summer" was written by Annette Tucker and Keith Colley and
makes a great companion to Chad & Jeremy's "Summer Song". It is now
playing in musica: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/files/musica/
Mike
The "Keepin' The Summer Alive" titles:
Chubby Checker Dancin' Party (Parkway) 1962
Connie Francis We Have Something More (Than A Summer Love) (MGM) 1964
Chiffons When Summer's Through (Laurie) 1963
Eddie Rambeau Summertime Guy (Swan) 1962
Rangoons Moon Guitar (Laurie) 1961
Dovells Summer Job (Parkway) 1963
Imaginations Summer In New York (Dunhill) 1967
Spurrlows Sunrise Highway (Philips) 1969
Bud & Travis Cold Summer (Liberty) 1965
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 16:28:43 -0400
From: Phil Milstein
Subject: Lee Hazlewood in print
Lee Hazlewood fans will want to grab themselves a copy of the latest
issue (#6) of the NYC-based printzine B.B. Gun (http://www.bbgun.org),
which includes one of the best recent-vintage (if there even is any
other kind) L.H. interviews I've seen. It's not long but it is
illuminating, and of course exudes the Man's typical flintiness.
Hazlewood has also recently published his first novel. It is entitled
"The Pope's Daughter," the "pope" assumedly a reference to Frank Sr.
and thus the title character being Nancy Sin. Not having yet read it,
I don't know how close to the literal truth it may hew, or for that
matter how easy it is to discern the difference. Self-published, it
is available from http://www.xlibris.com
Happy reading,
--Phil M.
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 11:39:52 -0400
From: brynneandscott
Subject: Re: Lee Hazlewood
Tony Bayliss:
> Just come across an interesting E.P. on Mercury MEP - 87. The
> title is 'The Lee Hazlewood Autobiography' by Lee Hazlewood.
Are you referring to the one that just sold on Ebay? Did you get it?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2548231019
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 18:56:02 +0000
From: Stuffed Animal
Subject: Dionne Warwick's "Message To Michael"
Does anyone know who produced Dionne Warwick's "Message To Michael?"
I've heard that Bacharach and David felt it was meant to be sung by
a male artist and refused to do it with Dionne (Bacharach produced it
for Lou Johnson under the title "Kentucky Bluebird" and Jerry Butler
cut it as "Message To Martha"). Her version was recorded in Paris
while she was appearing over there. If my memory serves me correctly,
the arrangement for "Message To Michael" is credited to one Jacques
Denjean. Did Dionne produce it herself?
Stuff
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 17:25:33 -0700
From: Kurt
Subject: The Dark Mystery of "Timothy" by The Buoys
I first heard "Timothy" by The Buoys on a compilation tape a friend
had given me (about a year ago). Last weekend, my friend was helping
me paint my place, and we had that tape on. We began to argue about
whether "Timothy" is really about cannibalism. He says it isn't, I
say it is. The following lines of the song pretty much infer that
Timothy was devoured by his buddies:
Timothy, Timothy, Joe was looking at you
Timothy, Timothy, God what did we do?...
...My stomach was full as it could be
And nobody ever got around
To finding Timothy
Is there any evidence that points either way? I would love to truly
know if an ode to cannibalism slipped by the censors. It would be
one of the better pranks in pop history. And was the song written by
the same Rupert Holmes that wrote "The Pina Colada Song"? If so,
that's quite a range......from cannibalism to pina coladas.
Happy Labor Day
Kurt
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 23:43:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: Andrew
Subject: Re: Jerry Keller
About Jerry Keller: During the early 1970s, there was a controversial
documentary film called "Marjoe," which followed former child
evangelist Marjoe Gortner on his final preaching tour. The film's
closing theme, "Save All My Brothers," was sung and co-written by
Jerry Keller; if you can find the film or its soundtrack album (on
Warner Bros.), I recommend that song.
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 15:16:51 -0500
From: Dan Hughes
Subject: Re: The Dark Mystery of "Timothy" by The Buoys
Re: The Dark Mystery of "Timothy" by The Buoys
Yep cannibalism. Yep, same Rupert. Here's the story:
http://laststandingman.tripod.com/History/pina_colada_man.htm
>From that site:
"The majority of Top 40 radio listeners associate New York
singer-songwriter Rupert Holmes with his songs of social commentary
and inter-personal relationships. Musical gems such as Him and Escape
(The Pina Colada Song) helped make his 1980 breakout LP, Partners In
Crime a golden effort, and netted Holmes a long-awaited national
recognition.
"But the 33-year old Holmes has also earned songwriting success in
the Great Northeast. His song Timothy, an unlikely rock ballad about
subterranean cannibalism, became a Top 10 national hit in 1971 as
recorded by Wilkes-Barres group, The Buoys.
"I was trying to write a song that would get banned and cause some
controversy, and get the group The Buoys known, Holmes admitted
while paying a visit to the Bloomsburg Fair, earlier in 1980.
"It was sort of a calculated attempt to get people to notice The
Buoys, and it did, but unfortunately they noticed Timothy and didnt
notice the group as a whole."
---Dan
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 15:52:07 -0400
From: Phil Milstein
Subject: Re: "Timothy" by The Buoys
Kurt wrote:
> Is there any evidence that points either way? I would love to truly
> know if an ode to cannibalism slipped by the censors. It would be
> one of the better pranks in pop history. And was the song written by
> the same Rupert Holmes that wrote "The Pina Colada Song"? If so,
> that's quite a range......from cannibalism to pina coladas.
I have a pic sleeve edition of the record. The front cover is
nondescript, with plain white type, featuring the song's title, against
a black background. But the back cover depicts a hand-scrawled letter
from a child (?) that reads:
"Dear who ever,
"On the record 'Timothy' it's the talk of the school every body has a
different story some people say that they just left Timothy in the mine,
some say he was eaten by Joe and the other guy, some say he was eaten
alive, and some say he was killed when it caved in then they ate him
will you please send me the words of the song and tell me what it means!
"Thank you,
Stacie Schiller"
Whether the letter is authentic or not is besides the point. The salient
point is Scepter's decision to print it on the sleeve, which signals
their willingness to further the "controversy" by promoting it in this
fashion without ever answering the question.
The song was indeed written by Rupert Holmes.
Hungrily,
--Phil M.
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 20:33:15 +0100
From: Guy Lawrence
Subject: Re:The Kingsmen
Country Paul wrote:
> Guy Lawrence mentions his Joey Levine site:
> http://home.att.net/~bubblegumusic/joeysongs.htm - I didn't
> know that he wrote "Wolf of Manhattan," the most non-Kingsmen-
> sounding Kingsmen song, and my all-time fave by them. It was,
> incidentally, a "C" side - having replaced the "B" side of a
> single. I have it collected on the Best of The Kingsmen Vol. 3;
> it's a major treat!
You're right Paul, it is a nice track - more like the New York
stories Joey wrote for the Jet Stream and Third Rail than his
bubblegum stuff. The Kingsmen's output really varied as they tried
to duplicate their initial success. "Louie Louie" aside, they went
from inept (but not in a good sense) with "Killer Joe" to totally
rocking on their pairing of Jim Valley's "Little Sally Tease" and
Lonnie Russ's "My Wife Can't Cook" (Wand 1127). No doubt their
frequent line up changes had a lot to do with this and I suspect
that session musicians were used on tracks like the last two.
Another good non-Kingsmen sounding track is the very psychedelic
"I Guess I Was Dreaming" also recorded in the U.K. by the Fairytale.
Guy
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TweedleeDumsDrive-In/
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 16:14:03 EDT
From: Bob Rashkow
Subject: The Feathers / Jack Keller
Question for Jeff Glenn: (Feathers in your Kapp) Are the Feathers
on Kapp the same Feathers on Team with the incredible hard-edged
bubblegum dance tune "Tryin' To Get To You" b/w "My Baby's Soul
Good" ? ? ?
Also, regarding Jack Keller (not Jerry who was equally talented) he
and Diane Hildebrand wrote one of the Monkees' finest (IMHO) tunes,
"Early Morning Blues and Greens" from the HEADQUARTERS LP. I don't
think they did this one on the TV show, but my two questions for
Rashkovsky or anybody else who might know are: Did any other
artists record this oh-so-philosophical tune? & I'm pretty sure
Jack and Diane (apologies to John Cougar) wrote for several other
artists besides Mike, Micky, Davy and Peter, anyone know who and did
any of their penned tunes ever chart? On or off list answers
welcomed - Bobster
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 22:17:59 +0100
From: Martin Roberts
Subject: Jack Nitzsche at Spectropop
The winner of the Record Of The Week on the home page,
http://www.spectropop.com/JackNitzsche/index.htm is
Davey Summers, "Calling All Cars", a narrow victory over
The Escorts, "You Can't Even Be My Friend".
Now, the Escorts records are really fab, so...
Next weeks battle, The Escorts - You Can't Even Be My Friend
or The Escorts, Itchy Coo.
On The Radio http://www.spectropop.com/JackNitzsche/radio.htm
currently playing: "KHJ11 (short Blockbuster)".
I've read the postings on S'pop (thanks Country Paul and Phil M.)
and received emails concerning the ROTW and The Battle.
The request is basically for more Nitzsche and I can't argue with
that! But the ROTW is one record and will not be increased. However,
I'm not an insensitive soul and have been beavering a way on a new
feature to give you what you want, more music by Jack Nitzsche!
Watch this space!
Martin
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 08:20:46 +0100
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Re: Lewis Sisters
Patrick Rands:
> I'm very excited to see this discussion here on The Lewis
> Sisters. They've been one of my favorite groups this year,
> and I've started to keep a file on them in hopes of someday
> perhaps putting together a radio spotlight show on them.
> Their story is fascinating! Is there any chance we could
> collate a discography of some sort together?
Great idea. You start! :-)
> Also, if anyone is interested in sharing more of their music
> with me, in hopes of me fashioning a future radio show
> broadcast on them, please send me a message. At this point
> in time I only have a few soundfiles. Thanks for any help
> you would like to give me.
I possess an interesting pre-Motown Lewis Sisters 45. Details
are:
"Shooby-Dooby"/"Doublecrossed"
Aura 393, 1964
Written by Kay and Helen Lewis
Produced by Jimmy Mack
Aura was a subsidiary of World-Pacific Records out of Los
Angeles. "Shooby-Dooby" features fantastic backing vocals by
Brenda Holloway. Dumb yet cool, both sides are now playing at
musica: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/files/musica/
Hey la,
Mick Patrick
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 17:13:09 EDT
From: Mike Rashkow
Subject: Re: Tell Her
Mick Patrick:
> Produced by Manny Kellem
I knew Manny Kellem. Nice guy, good executive. When I last
saw him he was a liquor salesmen in NJ. As far as him producing,
I'm sure he was in the room. I'm equally sure he was surrounded
by "talent". Bert was there, I'm sure and Teacho.
That is such a great arrangement by Teacho - VERY NOT rock and
roll or R&B, it's what I think was called a "bayan" (Sp?)or
something like that - it loped right along, very latin.
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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 18:22:07 -0400
From: Rat Pfink
Subject: The Dark Mystery of "Timothy" by The Buoys
Kurt:
> Is there any evidence that points either way? I would love
> to truly know if an ode to cannibalism slipped by the censors.
> It would be one of the better pranks in pop history. And was
> the song written by the same Rupert Holmes that wrote "The
> Pina Colada Song"? If so, that's quite a range......from
> cannibalism to pina coladas.
I'd heard that the band and record label claimed
Timothy was a dog to get around the censors...
RP
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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 17:15:03 -0400
From: Claudia Cunningham
Subject: Re: The Dark Mystery of "Timothy" by The Buoys
Kurt:
> Is there any evidence that points either way? I would love
> to truly know if an ode to cannibalism slipped by the censors.
Yep, cannibalism. There is also a phrase in there that says
something to the effect of that they were "hungry as hell,
no food to eat, and what wouldn't they give for just one piece
...of meat."
Now, if that's not cannibalism, I don't know what else it could
refer to. Strange, ain't it?
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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2003 10:47:37 +0100
From: Simon White
Subject: Surf and Hit
Does anyone have any info on the "Hit" label? It seemes
to have released covers of then current hits from '62
through to '68, a different artist each side of the 45.
There are some interesting titles and going by the one
I picked up recently, Connie and Clara "I Will Follow Him"
/Herbert Hunter "Take These Chains From My Heart", probably
aren't bad at all.
A different question, but I deserve some indulgence after
a weekend of being driven around Devon and subjected to the
Beach Boys on a bad car stereo system (sorry, I don't really
"Get" it) by someone who didn't understand why Mrs Miller
singing "These Boots Are Made For Walking" was meant to be a
joke, I came across a listing for this -
Real Gone Surfer Boy - "He's My Blonde-Headed Stompie Wompie"
WORLD HITS 150 / 1964.
Has anyone ever heard it ?
Simon White
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