Spectropop - Digest Number 1011

• From: Spectropop Group
• Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003

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There are 20 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Barry Darvell
           From: Billy G. Spradlin 
      2. Re: Mark Wirtz turns...
           From: Paul 
      3. Katch 22
           From: Albin Lindstrom 
      4. Food for Thought - "Timothy" by The Buoys
           From: Steve Harvey 
      5. Re: Smokey And His Sister/US 1967 WB LP
           From: Keith D'Arcy 
      6. Re: "Timothy" by the Buoys
           From: Tom Taber 
      7. Re: Joey Levine
           From: Jeff Lemlich 
      8. Re: Smokey and His Sister, Jim and Jean
           From: Art Longmire 
      9. Re: Joey Levine
           From: Guy Lawrence 
     10. Starsailor
           From: Guy Lawrence 
     11. Re: Smokey And His Sister/US 1967 WB LP
           From: JJ 
     12. "Timothy" by the Buoys
           From: Kurt 
     13. Re: Katch 22
           From: Ken 
     14. Re: Barry Darvell
           From: Martin Roberts 
     15. Re: "Timothy" by the Buoys
           From: Art Longmire 
     16. Re: Lena Zavaroni
           From: Ian Chapman 
     17. Andrea Carroll
           From: Don 
     18. Re: The Feathers
           From: Jeffrey Glenn 
     19. Terry Phillips; Kapp; Darin; more
           From: Country Paul 
     20. Re: Smokey and His Sister, Jim and Jean
           From: JJ 


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Message: 1
   Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 05:14:11 -0000
   From: Billy G. Spradlin 
Subject: Re: Barry Darvell

Claudia Cunningham wrote:
> Could anyone tell me about Barry Darvell, who had a 1960 hit called 
> "How Will It End"? It was high up on the charts way back and I 
> remember it as a kid. Any bio information on him would be 
> appreciated.

I dont know much about him too - the only thing I discovered via 
Google about him was his real name was Barry Peregoy and was born 
1942 in Alexandria, VA. He cut a classic Rockabilly record "Geronimo 
Stomp" 45 on Colt 45 records in 1959. Never heard anything else by 
him. Anyone else know?

Billy



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Message: 2
   Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 08:15:44 EDT
   From: Paul 
Subject: Re: Mark Wirtz turns...

Happy Birthday Mark! All the best for the future, looking forward to 
hearing Les Phillipes & more future productions. Thankyou for the 
music!

love Paulx



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Message: 3
   Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 09:54:08 -0000
   From: Albin Lindstrom 
Subject: Katch 22

Hey!

I found an album some time ago that i have been wondering about ever 
since. The band is called (It's) Katch 22 and it's their record "It's 
soft rock & allsorts". First i thought it was some new band but I 
later realised that the album was from 1968. The album is quite good, 
filled with great songs we all know and love (Walk Away Renee, 
Feelin' Groovy and Windy)and some songs written by the band.

But two things about the album suprised me. 

What made me think that it was a new band was the cover art. On the 
cover the band is covered in paint, something that made me think of 
that classic photo of The Stone Roses. The cover is in many ways like 
the first Stone Roses album (action painting and all) and must have 
been a great inspiration for John Squire when he made the cover for 
their first album.   

Second, the title of it also suprised me. Does the term "Soft Rock" 
come from this album? Of course that term have been used for a long 
time, but not in the same way as it's used nowdays.



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Message: 4
   Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2003 19:05:44 -0700 (PDT)
   From: Steve Harvey 
Subject: Food for Thought - "Timothy" by The Buoys

Wasn't their an editted version of "Timothy" called "Tim"?
Shorter and less filling.



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Message: 5
   Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2003 21:16:02 -0400
   From: Keith D'Arcy 
Subject: Re: Smokey And His Sister/US 1967 WB LP

JJ:
> Wonder if the LP has a similiar VIBE?

Hey JJ,

The LP's not quite as good as those singles (I agree, they're 
marvelous). Claudine Longet does "Creators Of Rain" as well.  I 
believe John Hill produced both Smokey & His Sister's pre-LP 45s 
(same John Hill that produced the Margot Guryan LP... and a heck 
of a nice guy).  The LP was produced by Paul Harris (don't know 
the scoop on him), and it's good, but not as magical as those 45s.

For a similar folky sike rush, find the 45 "Welcome To The Rain" 
by Mid-Day Rain, on RCA.  Totally mindblowingly lite & brilliant.  
Produced by John Florez, who did some of the Friends Of 
Distinctions stuff.

Cheers,
Keith



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Message: 6
   Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 06:03:39 -0700 (PDT)
   From: Tom Taber 
Subject: Re: "Timothy" by the Buoys

How could anybody's stomach be "full as it could be" after sharing a 
bleeping canary??? I always thought it was a mule, or at least not a 
person, because "Tim" is always mentioned third in the lyrics, after 
the two humans.  I can't remember names for two minutes, but I think 
the follow-up was "Give Up Your Guns." Who else remembers "Fox 
Hunting on the Weekend" or "It's Up to You Petula" as failed follow-
ups to other early 70s smashes? (Probably some other demented 
Spectropoppers,that's who!)   

Tom Taber



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Message: 7
   Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 16:20:26 -0000
   From: Jeff Lemlich 
Subject: Re: Joey Levine

Country Paul writes:
> Guy Lawrence mentions his Joey Levine site:
> http://home.att.net/~bubblegumusic/joeysongs.htm - I didn't 
> know that he wrote "Wolf of Manhattan," the most non-Kingsmen-
> sounding Kingsmen song, and my all-time fave by them. 

One that I don't see on that site is a 45 by Joey Edwards on 
Columbia, which may or may not be Levine.  It sure sounds like him, 
and the label reads "a J.L. Production".  Maybe somebody knows for 
sure?

The specifics are:

Columbia 4-43620
JOEY EDWARDS
Trapped (J. Edwards)
How Big Is Big (J. Edwards)

I have no proof that it's him, but to my ears, it could be nobody 
else.

Jeff Lemlich
http://www.limestonerecords.com



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Message: 8
   Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 18:53:04 -0000
   From: Art Longmire 
Subject: Re: Smokey and His Sister, Jim and Jean

Just read JJ's post on Smokey and His Sister-it's funny, I was 
thinking of posting on them yesterday. I have the "Creators of Rain" 
45 and have the lyrics to the song and a picture of the duo in a copy 
of "Song Hits" magazine. (The picture is interesting-although it was 
taken circa 1967, Smokey has a hairdo similar to Prince's in the 
1980s!)

Until I read the post I never knew they had made an album, and I too 
would be interested if other Spectropoppers have heard it. I'm not a 
huge fan of the "Creators of Rain" song, to me it was just "OK" but 
nothing to get excited about. 

Also have the Jim and Jean 45 "People World" and that duo's LP on 
Verve Forecast. That one I like very much and remember being 
surprised at how good it was. I noticed Jean got a mention in the 
recent Neil Young biography "Shakey"-If my memory serves me right, 
one of Neil's songs was inspired by her (I don't blame him-she was 
gorgeous!)

Speaking of "folk-psych duos", yet another album I have by a male-
female duo is the one by St. George and Tana on Kapp records. It's 
produced by Huey Meaux the "Crazy Cajun" and this one really 
surprised me when I listened to it-it's terrific. Sort of Ian and 
Sylvia-ish, with some influences of psych and Indian music, and 
excellent playing and singing. I would definitely like for this one 
to see the light of day on CD!

Best,

Art Longmire



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Message: 9
   Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 20:21:49 +0100
   From: Guy Lawrence 
Subject: Re: Joey Levine

Jeff Lemlich wrote:
> One that I don't see on that site is a 45 by Joey Edwards on 
> Columbia, which may or may not be Levine.  It sure sounds like him, 
> and the label reads "a J.L. Production".  Maybe somebody knows for 
> sure?
> The specifics are:
> Columbia 4-43620
> JOEY EDWARDS
> Trapped (J. Edwards)
> How Big Is Big (J. Edwards)

Hi Jeff,
I've checked the titles against Joey's credits at www.bmi.com and both
are definitely Levine songs. Joey certainly had links to Columbia, his 
uncle, Allen Stanton, was a staffer there producing the Byrds "5-D"
album amongst other things. Thanks for the info Jeff, obviously I'd be
very interested in hearing both tracks!
Regards,

Guy
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TweedleeDumsDrive-In/



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Message: 10
   Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 20:35:14 +0100
   From: Guy Lawrence 
Subject: Starsailor

For those keeping tabs on such things, Starsailor's Spector produced 
single "Silence Is Easy", released in the U.K. this week, is number 
eight in the mid-week singles chart.

Guy
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TweedleeDumsDrive-In/



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Message: 11
   Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 20:53:43 -0000
   From: JJ 
Subject: Re: Smokey And His Sister/US 1967 WB LP

**Thanx a bunch, Keith!

Actually i´ve included "Friday mourning", the b-s. to the Mid Day Rain 
45 onto the Fading Yellow vol 6 cd == US(and some Can)pop-sike and other 
delights 45s.rel in c. one month.

JJ



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Message: 12
   Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 12:53:07 -0700
   From: Kurt 
Subject: "Timothy" by the Buoys

Mark,
I guess that settles it...the writer would definitely be the one to 
know. But still...check out the following lines from the song:

"My stomach was full as it could be
And nobody ever got around
To finding Timothy..."

I'd like to ask Rupert how full a person's stomach could be after 
devouring a single canary. The last time I checked, the average canary 
is pretty darn small (and they were probably darn small in 1971, when 
the song was released). Something is wrong here, and I still think the 
boys ate their human buddy. I say we call a full Congressional 
Investigation, and settle this matter once and for all

cheers, Kurt



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Message: 13
   Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 15:19:52 -0400
   From: Ken 
Subject: Re: Katch 22

There were a few LP covers that I remember (actually I probably 
wouldn't have remembered them, since I own them I see them from 
time to time) from late 60s that had people painted. 1) Paul 
Mauriat 2) Klowns 3) 3 Ring Circus 4) American Breed and probably 
others just don't recall them here at work. 
Peace
Ken



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Message: 14
   Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 22:27:07 +0100
   From: Martin Roberts 
Subject: Re: Barry Darvell

Billy responding to a query from Claudia Cunningham about 
Barry Darvell:

> He cut a classic Rockabilly record "Geronimo Stomp" 45 on 
> Colt 45 records in 1959. Never heard anything else by him.
> Anyone else know?

I know nothing of his life bar a few choice 45s. Ian Chapman 
introduced me to my first hearing of Mr Darvell via a tape 
about 75 years ago, "I Found A Daisy (In The City)", on World 
Artists 1058. Not only is this record as good, if not better 
than it sounds, it's also written by A. Resnik - K. Young.
(Basically their first draft of the later Jerry Cole/Jack 
Nitzsche song, "Every Window In The City") And topically - 
regarding the recent Reparata/Delrons thread: it's a World 
United Production (the Jerome Brothers), arr. John Abbott with 
Hash Brown and his Orchestra. The b-side has the same production 
credits but a J. Ciccone - B. Jerome song "Kissable Lips, a Dion-
styled rock 'n' roller.

His earlier release on World Artists 1042, again features the 
Jerome Brothers usual credits, "Where Is The Love For Me" 
(L.Rogers)/"I'll Remember" (B. Darvell - D. Leonard). It's also 
very good.

Minus a Hash Brown credit, the team's later record on Columbia 
44197, a cover of the Seasons' "Beggars Parade" and Johnny 
Cymbal's "Hold On To Me", is a tad disappointing in comparison.

But going further back pre-Jerome Brothers, you have "Fountain 
Of Love", an Elvis sound alike and the doo-woppish, "Little Angel 
Lost" on Cub 9088.  Even better, Pomus and Shuman's "A King For 
A Night" and Darvell-Leonard's "Adam And Eve" back to back on 
Atlantic 2138.

In short my strong suggestion is keep a lookout for these and 
others by Barry Darvell.

Martin






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Message: 15
   Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 21:27:30 -0000
   From: Art Longmire 
Subject: Re: "Timothy" by the Buoys

Kurt wrote:

> I'd like to ask Rupert how full a person's stomach could be 
> after devouring a single canary. The last time I checked, the 
> average canary is pretty darn small (and they were probably 
> darn small in 1971, when the song was released). Something is 
> wrong here, and I still think the boys ate their human buddy. 
> I say we call a full Congressional Investigation, and settle 
> this matter once and for all

Hey Kurt,

I suspect the "canary interview" was Rupert putting on the 
interviewer - the way Dylan used to do all the time. I've seen 
another interview where he definitely said that the subject matter 
was cannibalism...and that he hoped it would gain more attention 
for the Buoys.

All this reminds me of another controversial song that was out at 
the same time that DID get banned in my area (Southern California)
- "One Toke Over The Line" by Brewer and Shipley. This tune was a 
much bigger hit, I remember, and was played all the time on a.m. 
radio for weeks until the radio broadcasters found out it was about 
marijuana - it was yanked, disappeared without a trace, and I still 
haven't heard it on radio in all the years since then. I guess to 
the guardians of the airwaves marijuana was a much more sensitive 
topic to young ears than a guy being eaten by his workmates in a mine!

Art Longmire




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Message: 16
   Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2003 00:59:31 +0100
   From: Ian Chapman 
Subject: Re: Lena Zavaroni

Kory wrote:

>  River Deep - Mountain High is on her 1974 album, remarkably
>  recorded on the Stax label. It was produced by Tommy Scott
>  for Ashtree Holdings and arranged by Arthur Greenslade.
>  The album boasts big sounds and big production, but
>  unfortunately, the rest of the LP tanks big time with songs:
>  Rock-A-Bye Your Baby With a Dixie Melody, Pennies From Heaven,
>  Ma, He's Making Eyes at Me. Her precociousness practically
>  throws you up against the wall and makes you beg for mercy.

Yes, it was quite a juxtaposition, Stax being the US outlet
for Lena's kiddie output.  But forget the early stuff and look 
for the single that qualifies her as a Spectropop icon, which 
came six years later.

Written by 80s girl-group Dolly Mixture, "Will He Kiss Me
Tonight" was wonderfully Spectorish in a retro sort of way and 
cocked a snook to those who'd dismissed her as an eternal
kiddie-star-turned-family-entertainer.  Even the hard-bitten 
reviewer of the NME was moved to say about this single, 
"Really good, I assure you".

Lena's story was one of several featured in a programme
about kiddie pop stars last week on UK TV.  And last year, 
there was a full hour-long documentary on her - probably the 
saddest, most tragic music biog I've ever watched.

For those who may not be aware, Lena fell victim to anorexia
in her early teens and never managed to overcome it, despite
several attempts.  In the end, after it had destroyed her
career (and nearly destroyed her), she became convinced that 
the problem was purely a mental one and somehow managed to 
convince doctors to carry out a partial lobotomy.  It 
effectively killed her, after an infection set in a few days 
later.  She was 35.

"Will He Kiss Me Tonight" is now playing at musica.

Ian




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Message: 17
   Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2003 00:16:44 -0000
   From: Don 
Subject: Andrea Carroll

Thanks to Monster for posting "It Hurts To Be Sixteen".  I've been 
looking for a G/K comp by Andrea called "Boy I Used To Know".  Has 
anyone heard it?  It's not the same as the Jan Burnette song.  I 
can't find it anywhere.

Don



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Message: 18
   Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 20:48:08 -0700
   From: Jeffrey Glenn 
Subject: Re: The Feathers

Bobster:
> Question for Jeff Glenn: (Feathers in your Kapp)  Are the Feathers
> on Kapp the same Feathers on Team with the incredible hard-edged
> bubblegum dance tune "Tryin' To Get To You" b/w "My Baby's Soul
> Good" ?  ? ?

I only have an mp3 of "Tryin' To Get To You," but it sounds as if it
probably is the same group (same year too).  Both sides of the Kapp 
single are soulish bubblegum - very Tommy James.  The A-side a 
midtempo number, and the B-side a ballad.  Here's the info on the 
single:

A: Give Him Love (Calvert-Marzano-Naumann)
B: To Be Loved By You (Calvert-Marzano-Naumann)
The Feathers, Kapp K-887: 1968; Produced by Jimmy Calvert & Norman 
Marzano - A Big Kahoona Production (A-side), Jimmy Calvert & Paul 
Naumann - A Big Kahoona Production (B-side); Arranged & Conducted by 
Jimmy Calvert

I'll play "Give Him Love" to musica once there's some room.

I do have a good 1969 cover of "Tryin' To Get To You" by Bill Wendry 
& The Boss Tweeds on Columbia.  It's a "bigger" production retaining 
the fuzztone but adding horns, but the original Feathers version 
remains definitive.

Jeff
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Message: 19
   Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2003 01:16:52 -0400
   From: Country Paul 
Subject: Terry Phillips; Kapp; Darin; more

>From Jeffrey Glenn:
> Hands Of A Fool (Terry Philips-Phil Spector) - Terry Philips, 
> United Artists UA 351, 1961 - Produced by Leiber-Stoller, 
> Orchestra Conducted by Garry Sherman

Worth hearing, Jeff; he had a voice like a choirboy. I hear the 
Spector touch in the bridge, which modulates like some of his more 
romantic-era Teddy Bears melodies.

Geoff Kaiser writes:
> Other artists on Kapp included Jane Morgan, Ruby &the Romantics,
> Brian Hyland, Louis Armstrong (including the hit 'Hello Dolly'),
> and Sonny & Cher.

Rashkovsky:
> ...AND Johnny Cymbal (Mr. Bassman)

...and lest we forget, the Critters, Kenny Ball ("Midnight In 
Moscow") and the Emotions ("Echo," 1961, an unusually "deep doowop" 
record for the label, and a group-harmony standard in New York).

Stuart Robertson:
> Even Bobby Darin tried something new with albums like "If I were a 
> Carpenter" and "Inside Out." Both are basically folk rock albums 
> and feature songs by the likes of Tim Hardin and John Sebastian; 
> but the pick for me is the album "Born Walden Robert Cassoto."  
> This has more than a hint of psych to it and is a tougher sounding 
> Mr. Darin and musically and lyrically very much of the era; he
> probably never sounded like this again actually!!

Especially the latter album; it was the sound of a man with great 
ambition and desire to do so much, who knew he was going to die young, 
trying to get it all out there. I think the "Cassoto" album is the 
source of the haunting and  gorgeous "Sweet Reason" - well worth 
finding; it holds its own with any of the singer-songwriters out there. 
Darin was disappointed that people didn't "believe" him as a folkie 
(go back to the flip of 1958's "Queen of the Hop," the exquisite "Lost 
Love," a zen-simple folkie original, for proof of his commitment to 
music of many styles). According to a TV bio I saw, he went back to 
the ring-a-ding style because (1) he liked it too, (2) he was good at 
it, and (3) he needed the money.

Shelby Flint follow-up: I've got the first ("The Quiet Girl" and last 
"Cast Your Fate....") Valiant albums; several tracks of the latter are 
reissues of tracks from the former, including the ever-gorgeous "Angel 
On My Shoulder." Too bad DeVorzon had her do so many retreaded 
showtunes; I would have liked to have heard more of her compositions. 
Nonetheless, if you're unfamiliar with Ms. Flint but like the Gregmark-
era Paris Sisters, the CD reissue would probably be worth checking out.

Mick Patrick cites the 1962 Jackie Shane lyric in a "cover version of
William Bell's classic "Any Other Way" (Sue 776, 1962)...."Tell her 
that I'm happy, tell her that I'm gay, tell her I wouldn't have it any 
other way"....I don't think it's a hint, Mick. Actually, if I remember 
correctly, the term "gay" didn't come into it's current meaning until 
many years later. In fact, at that time most shorter terms were pretty 
damn pejorative.

Will Stos, great write-up on the Delicates (
http://www.geocities.com/williamstos/index.htm and
http://www.geocities.com/williamstos/delicateseastcoast.html ). Being 
an early Murray The K fan, I'd always thought they were a bigger act 
than they apparently were; I remember hearing all the Unart sides you 
cite on the air!

Bill Craig, re: Del Shannon's "From Me To You":
> Was this the first Beatles cover by an American artist to chart?
> In either the UK or U.S.? I think the conventional wisdom says yes....

In the summer of '63, Murray The K used to do a "Record Review Board,"
playing two new 45's against each other and tallying audience votes. 
Vee Jay had just released the song simultaneously with Shanbnon's 
version, and Murray played them off against each other. As I remember, 
Del Shannon got several hundred calls, and the Beatles were in the 
single digits! Six months later, the world changed.

Point to ponder: if Del Shannon had gotten the continuing recognition 
he deserved, would his despondency have ultimately triumphed over his
accomplishments?

Kurt:
> I'm looking for a decent internet bio of Myrtle Audrey Arinsberg, 
> [a/k/a] Gogi Grant....Is there anything substantial on Gogi/Myrtle 
> anywhere on the 'Net ? (or can someone in the group supply a Gogi-
> ography?)

No help with details, I'm afraid, just a marginal note: last time I 
talked to Carol Connors (a couple of months ago) she told me she'd 
met Gogi Grant, one of her major influences, and she is still alive 
and well. Carol said she was pretty well blown away to meet her.

Country Paul
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Message: 20
   Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2003 05:48:59 -0000
   From: JJ 
Subject: Re: Smokey and His Sister, Jim and Jean

Art Longmire:
> Until I read the post I never knew they had made an album, and I too 
> would be interested if other Spectropoppers have heard it. I'm not a 
> huge fan of the "Creators of Rain" song, to me it was just "OK" but 
> nothing to get excited about. 

**It´s a Small(´net)World.....have u got the "Creators of rain" 45 with 
the SAME title on both sides? This seems to be the most common rel 45 
version; actually i´ve never seen a US copy 45 with "In A Dream Of 
Silent Seas" on the b-s.....a buddy in Holland have the UK CBS 45 with 
both trax!

The US Columbia 45 was also rel in a VERY SCARCE PS! (never seen it 
though..)

Another Fab Folk-sike duo LP is JIM & DALE´s 86% of us UA ´68 LP, 
filled with GORGEOUS, mostly Orch trax. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!

JJ



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