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There are 21 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Comebacks
From: Alfie Noakes
2. Re: Telephone song
From: James Botticelli
3. Re: Crystals "Uptown" in stereo
From: Billy G. Spradlin
4. Unreleased or Not?
From: markt439
5. Re: Shadow Morton
From: Mick Patrick
6. Bear Mix-up
From: James Cassidy
7. Re: Sugar Bear
From: John Fox
8. Re: Diana Dawn
From: Stephen M.H. Braitman
9. Re: Diana Dawn
From: Mick Patrick
10. Re: Jerry Keller / Sugar Bear
From: Jon Adelson
11. Re: Canada
From: A. Zweig
12. Bits and Pieces
From: Martin Roberts
13. Re: "This Magic Moment"
From: Michael Edwards
14. Re: Tallyrand Music
From: Mike Rashkow
15. "Teenage Dreams" Vol 7
From: Michael Edwards
16. Re: Robin Clark - "Daddy Daddy"
From: Michael Edwards
17. Re: James Ray CD
From: Michael Edwards
18. Re: "Got My Mind Set On You" / Sugar Bear
From: Bill Craig
19. Re: The Breakaways / Vicki Brown
From: Ken Mortimer
20. Re: Sugar Bear
From: Billy G. Spradlin
21. Scram #18 w/Emitt Rhodes, Marty Thau, Ramones...
From: Kim Cooper
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 17:54:56 -0000
From: Alfie Noakes
Subject: Re: Comebacks
Susan Lang wrote:
> As of right now he is working on a studio album,
> putting the finishing touches on a show he will
> headline next month for the Carl Wilson Foundation
> at Royce Hall on the campus of UCLA with Sir Elton John,
> and rehearsing for the mind-boggling premier of the Smile
> tour, which begins in England in January.
Thanks for the tip, Susan, and excuse the ambiguity.
I caught Brian several times last year, and can't wait
for the Smile gigs. Things can get a little fuzzy late
at night. As emotional as those gigs were, I guess what
I'd really like is for him to get behind the desk again.
What he's doing now is wonderful, but it's maybe less a
comeback, and more a consolidation of his genius.
It must be fantastic for Brian to finally get to play in
front of such appreciative audiences. Whilst The Beach Boys,
in whatever guise they're in now, still play far bigger halls,
there's barely a soul at a Brian Wilson gig who hasn't been
deeply touched by his music.
I was flabbergasted when I found out I was actually going to see
Brian in person, then amazed when I heard he'd be doing Smile.
Perhaps it's not so far-fetched to think he might just take the
controls once more.
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 14:24:37 -0400
From: James Botticelli
Subject: Re: Telephone song
Nancy M wrote:
> On March 6,2003 Mike Edwards mentioned Robin Clark's "Daddy Daddy"
> which was reissued on one of the A side girl group compilations
> from Japan in the mid 90's. Does anyone know the title of the cd
> and if it is still available? I have been searching for this song
> for many years. Any info would be appreciated.
You must mean "Daddy Daddy (Gotta Get A Phone In My Room)", AM radio
hit here in the East Coast area. I don't have anything but it reminds
me of "Busy Signal" by--was it the Lollipops? Anyone?
JB
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 19:01:10 -0000
From: Billy G. Spradlin
Subject: Re: Crystals "Uptown" in stereo
DJ Jimmy B:
> I got ("Uptown" by the Crystals) on a CD-R made by a stereo
> weenie pal that relishes the "subversive" concept of having
> stereo Spector...it's often his sole raison d'etre! His life
> could use the proverbial shot in the arm.
I heard a mock stereo version on one of the file sharing programs
a year or two ago. They tried synching a early stereo mix (that
4-CD Spector Sessions bootleg) with the finished mono mix with the
overdubbed strings.
BTW I heard a stereo mix of the single version of Martha Reeves
& The Vandellas classic "Jimmy Mack". I can't tell if it's a faked
stereo mix or not. Whoever did it did a great job.
Billy
http://listen.to.jangleradio
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 19:21:33 -0000
From: markt439
Subject: Unreleased or Not?
I have had the following records on my want list for a long, long
time and I am wondering if they really exist or if they were just
listed on release lists but never really came out.
Camel Drivers - Everybody's Got to Do his own thing (Buddah 85)
Patty Duke - The Wall Came Tumbling Down (UA 50057)
Shirley Jones - Walk in Silence (Bell 45350)
Ginny Tiu - I've Got to Make Up With You (Amaret 104)
We Five - Natural Way (MGM 14543)
Al Wilson - Heavy Church (Rocky Road 30060)
Babies - Party Time (Dunhill 4148)
Any info on these records would be appreciated.
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 20:56:54 +0100
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Re: Shadow Morton
Mike Rashkow:
> ...Shadow Morton...drank a lot of Scotch...direct from the
> bottle...Very intense guy, spoke in riddles. Used to make me
> uncomfortable. Thought he was a pretty scary dude...he once
> threatened to have a Mafia guy that he was tied into "take
> care of me"...I was concerned enough to go and talk directly
> to the guy (E.G. knew him too) and asked him straight out. He
> told me that Shadow was "full of s--t"...Shadow was drunk
> every time I saw him and always hitting on E.G...Is that
> sufficient dishing the dirt?
Hell yes! But do keep it coming (off-list, perhaps). I do have
another question, though. One of the 40-odd compositions
registered at BMI to George Morton is a song entitled "This Is
My Story". There was a song of that title by Derek (y'pal Johnny
Cymbal) on Bang 558 in 1968. Is it the same song? Anyone? I
don't have this record.
Thanks also to David G, David Y, Stephane, Guy and Scott for the
Shadow Morton discography additions. I shall be in touch with
each of you shortly.
Hey la,
Mick Patrick
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 15:12:01 -0400
From: James Cassidy
Subject: Bear Mix-up
Sterling Holloway *was* the voice talent for an animated bear, but it
wasn't Sugar Bear; it was Disney's version of Winnie the Pooh.
Jim Cassidy
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 16:05:18 EDT
From: John Fox
Subject: Re: Sugar Bear
Previously:
> I also remember the beautiful Bing Crosby-like voice. However,
> on the search engines I've only seen the name Sterling Holloway
> given credit as the voice of Sugar Bear.
Sterling Holloway was the voice of Winnie The Pooh in all the
classic Disney cartoons. He had a very funny, high-pitched voice,
even in old age, and (in my opinion) couldn't be Sugar Bear--who
did happen to talk a lot like Bing Crosby with a relaxed drawl.
John Fox
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 12:43:26 -0700
From: Stephen M.H. Braitman
Subject: Re: Diana Dawn
Come ON, guys! You mean NO ONE on this list knows anything about
Diana Dawn???
Stephen
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 21:37:55 +0100
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Re: Diana Dawn
Stephen M.H. Braitman:
> Come ON, guys! You mean NO ONE on this list knows anything about
> Diana Dawn???
Ace Records have some tracks by the lovely Diana Dawn skedded for
inclusion on a CD entitled (something like) "Boy Trouble: Gary
Paxton's Girls". This project is the brainchild of Alec Palao. If
*anyone* knows *anything* about Miss Dawn, it'll be the esteemed Mr
Palao. All members of the Ace staff have their own page at their
website, via which they can be emailed. You can find Alec Palao's
page at the touch of your very eager fingertips right here:
http://www.acerecords.co.uk/acestaff/ap.html
Right, back to my copy of "Backstreet Girl". Mind you, I prefer
the Adrienne Poster version. Jackie DeShannon's original demo is
better still.
Hey la,
Mick Patrick
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 21:04:17 -0000
From: Jon Adelson
Subject: Re: Jerry Keller / Sugar Bear
Phil Milstein:
> Well Sterling Holloway certainly had a high, sort of squeaky voice,
> so the Crosbyish voice used for Sugar Bear could not have been his
> (and thus may still have been Jerry Keller's). If yours' was the
> "Can't get enough of Super Sugar Crisp" jingle, it was a gooder!
I wish it were. Mine was mostly underscoring with Sugar Bear singing
the words "Golden Sugar" several times. Not immortality material.
John Fox:
> Sterling Holloway was the voice of Winnie The Pooh in all the
> lassic Disney cartoons. He had a very funny, high-pitched voice,
> even in old age, and (in my opinion) couldn't be Sugar Bear--who
> did happen to talk a lot like Bing Crosby with a relaxed drawl.
Phil and John, thanks for the reply. I got the Sterling Holloway
reference from http://www.tvacres.com/adanimals_sugarbear.htm , which
simply came up on a search engine. I would bet on the spectropoppers
any day :-)
Jon
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 16:10:53 -0400
From: A. Zweig
Subject: Re: Canada
Denis Gagnon wrote:
> Anybody else have any good Canadian soft rock recommendations?
I assume you've heard of The Sugar Shoppe.
Here are a few more obscure ones that sort of fit.
Wayne Versage (he was the lead singer of The Shays before David
Clayton Thomas) has at least one classic song "Flower Generation".
The Sultan Street Nine. I don't even know if they actually
existed but a lot of the songs were written by Greg Hambleton who
was in a band called The Passing Fancy (and he's the brother of
Fergus, a minor star in his own right.) Anyway this is one of the
coolest records I own. There are tunes here that sound like the
Velvet Underground playing Bacharach.
And finally Doug Randle "Songs for the new industrial state". This
was released on CBC records and everything I know about this guy
and the record is what I read in the liner notes. It's sort of a
concept record by a forty year old guy (in 1971) trying to make a
record "of the times". And I think he succeeds way way more than
he should have. I think it's almost a classic.
I'm sure there are a thousand more examples.
Oh and there are songs by both Kensington Market and The Paupers
which sort of fit but I wouldn't call them soft rock per se.
AZ
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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 00:30:34 +0100
From: Martin Roberts
Subject: Bits and Pieces
>From the top:
Stephen asked:
> Come ON, guys! You mean NO ONE on this list knows anything about
> Diana Dawn???
Sorry I don't but think I have a tape of the Aside of the first
single. Does that help? :-)
The Man From Uncle (funny name) asked;
> Unreleased or Not?
> Ginny Tiu - I've Got to Make Up With You (Amaret 104)
Released and very nice too. Billy Sunshine, the other side. I
recall I placed a similar, was it released or not regarding rumoured
Girl Group tracks. No replies so I assume they were all myths. Shame.
Stan Tinker wrote:
> The Toronto-based girl group of the mid-sixties, the Willows
> (formerly the Girlfriends), had a pretty big national hit in
> 1966 on MGM with "My Kinda Guy".
Ian replied:
> The Willows were Canadian? I had no idea.
I didn't know they were formerly The Girlfriends either. Am I
correct to assume the 'Colpix', Girlfriends?
Simon enquired:
> But correct me if I'm wrong - there was a male Willows...
Ian mentioned the doo-wop Willows, "Church Bells May Ring". But I'd
hazard the guess that the 45 Simon knows was released by the Willows
on the rather fab Heidi label. "Such A Night" with a very good Bob B
Soxx-type arrangement and a lovely soul ballad flip, "Sit By The Fire".
Martin
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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 00:06:08 -0000
From: Michael Edwards
Subject: Re: "This Magic Moment"
Robert Stewart's post discussing the Drifters' original version of
this song prompted me to ask if anyone can help me find the UK 45
pressing of the late 60s' version by Jay & The Americans. It has a
different intro than the hit US version. Thanks, Mike
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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 20:32:18 EDT
From: Mike Rashkow
Subject: Re: Tallyrand Music
Stuffed Animal wrote:
> Not so! Jeff Barry and Ellie Greenwich helped Neil Diamond
> start Tallyrand Music in the mid 1960s, and they were co-owners
> of this publishing company with Neil. Some years later, they
> let him buy out their shares.
Of course, I defer to S.A.'s greater knowledge on all things
having to do with Jose Barracuda and the Queen of the Hop.
Di da,
Rashkovsky
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Message: 15
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 01:21:18 -0000
From: Michael Edwards
Subject: "Teenage Dreams" Vol 7
Hi Mikey,
"Teenage Dreams" Vol 7 includes the following tracks:
Artie Wayne/Where Does A Rock & Roll Singer Go
Art Wayne/Try And Try Again
I don't think the second title was by our Artie Wayne, which is a
pity because it's a nice song.
Also from the early years, try Artie and Danny Jordan as Jordan &
Wayne with "Find A Little Happiness" (Diamond, 1962) - very nice.
Mike Edwards
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Message: 16
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 01:37:27 -0000
From: Michael Edwards
Subject: Re: Robin Clark - "Daddy Daddy"
Nancy M writes:
> On March 6,2003 Mike Edwards mentioned Robin Clark's "Daddy Daddy"
> which was reissued on one of the A side girl group compilations
> from Japan in the mid 90's. Does anyone know the title of the cd
> and if it is still available? I have been searching for this song
> for many years. Any info would be appreciated.
Yes, that's just the sort of thing he would mention. It's one of the
best novelty songs ever. The CD is entitled, "Popsicles And Icicles –
Girls' Collection Vol 2". It came out on the Japanese A-side label in
1993 and has long been discontinued. I have posted a few messages to
see whether or not some of our Japanese members knew if titles in
this series were available at oldies' outlets in Japan but have not
had any response.
The CD is essential as many of the tracks haven't been anywhere near
another CD, legit or otherwise. I love the opening track, "Mr. Magic
Moon" by the Gleams (Kapp, 1963) which was written by Ellie Greenwich
and her best songwriting partner, Tony Powers.
Nancy, contact me offline and I'll see what I can do to help.
Mike Edwards
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Message: 17
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 01:51:20 -0000
From: Michael Edwards
Subject: Re: James Ray CD
Collectables has a James Ray CD out, "If You Gotta Make a Fool Of
Somebody – Golden Classics". They have it for sale at $4.98 at their
website:
http://www.oldies.com/product/view.cfm/id/51992.html
I think it is essentially a reissue of James' early 60s' Caprice LP
and includes "I've Got My Mind Set On You Pt. 1 Pt 2" - all 3
minutes 28 seconds of them. I thought that George Harrison owned this
LP since the early 60s and that's how he knew the track. The CD also
contains a good version of the standard, "Without A Song" which
Arthur Alexander recorded at about the same time.
Mike Edwards
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Message: 18
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 03:22:41 -0000
From: Bill Craig
Subject: Re: "Got My Mind Set On You" / Sugar Bear
I guess I was recalling George referring to the writer (Rudy Clark)
not the original artist to cut the song (James Ray).
With regard to Sugar Bear, with his Bing Crosby/Dean Martin delivery,
my research shows the voice was done by a nightclub comlc named Gerry
Matthews.
Bill Craig
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Message: 19
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 04:42:20 +0100
From: Ken Mortimer
Subject: Re: The Breakaways / Vicki Brown
Hello Artie
Yes, Vicki did record 'From The Inside' - I love that song and
Vicki's version was particularly good. It was the only single
released from the album.
The album (also called 'From The Inside') was her first as a solo
artist. It was released in the UK by Power Exchange - a label that
I believe was owned by country singer J.J. Barrie. Vicki had
recorded backing vocals on J.J. Barrie's hit 'No Charge' and this
resulted in a lot of people asking who this wonderful singer was
(although she had been around for years and had even had a hit in
the UK along with her sister Mary Partington and singer Laura Lee
under the name of the Sea Shells. They did a cover of Lesley Gore's
'Maybe I Know').
I think the deal with Power Exchange came about on the back of the
J.J. Barrie record. However it happened, Vicki recorded a classic
album - sadly no longer available and never released on CD. I'm not
sure who might now own the masters - but if they're reading this,
there's a classic album in the vaults just waiting to be put out on
CD!!!
I really do like your song and have a recollection that I have a
recording of it by a different girl singer (probably from the late
70's). I can't quite remember who it might be. Time to get a tracks
index for my record and CD collection I think.
Thanks for the classic!
Take care
Ken
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Message: 20
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 04:24:36 -0000
From: Billy G. Spradlin
Subject: Re: Sugar Bear
Out of curiosity I discovered one website where a "Gerry Matthews did
the voice for Sugar Bear in the 60's for the "Linus the Lionhearted"
cartoon show while another site listed Stearling Holloway. I have the
original Linus The Lionhearted album (another Thrift Store find) and
I'll have to play it sometime this week and see who's on it. I think
its funny that Post got away with having a Chinese character
called "So-Hi"! Un-P.C. but it was the 60's.
Billy
http://listen.to/jangleradio
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Message: 21
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 22:36:11 -0700
From: Kim Cooper
Subject: Scram #18 w/Emitt Rhodes, Marty Thau, Ramones...
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