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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Spector Soundalikes CD?
From: Martin Jensen
2. Re: Phil Spector on TV
From: Gary Spector
3. Re: Twilettes
From: Frank
4. Re: Arties for Arties' Sake
From: Artie Wayne
5. Re: Spector Soundalikes CD?
From: Billy G. Spradlin
6. Johnny Cash
From: Artie Wayne
7. Rockabilly Women
From: Mike Nathan
8. Re: George Harrison in Benton, U.S.A.
From: Todd
9. Re: Spector Soundalikes CD?
From: Ken Silverwood
10. Re: Bobby Darin
From: Ron Sauer
11. Sugar Shoppe
From: Alan Zweig
12. Re: Unreleased or Not?
From: Patrick Rands
13. Phil Spector on TV
From: Mark Wirtz
14. Twilettes
From: David Young
15. Spector on CNN?
From: James Cassidy
16. Soda Pop Babies - web site
From: Nancy M
17. Re: "Phil's Spectre: A Wall Of Soundalikes" CD
From: Mick Patrick
18. Re: Twilettes
From: Mick Patrick
19. Re: Sugar Shoppe
From: Stewart Mason
20. New at S'pop: Annette Tucker
From: S'pop Team
21. Re: Sugar Shoppe
From: Orion
22. Re: Sugar Shoppe
From: James Botticelli
23. Re: "Phil's Spectre: A Wall Of Soundalikes" CD
From: Mikey
24. Oh Canada!
From: B Vlaovic
25. Re: HIT Records
From: David Coyle
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 09:47:38 -0000
From: Martin Jensen
Subject: Re: Spector Soundalikes CD?
Mike Rashkow wrote:
> Place your order for Phil's Spectre on Ace (CDCHD 978).
> It should be out by the end of the month.
What a coincidence! :-) I'll get my hands on that one, then.
Thanks for the tip!
Martin
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 01:40:38 -0600
From: Gary Spector
Subject: Re: Phil Spector on TV
Hello all,
Yes, Phil Spector will be on A&E this Tuesday but not only
will he be on the show, so will his sons, two of them anyway.
This may be one of the most revealing interviews yet.
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 09:38:07 +0200
From: Frank
Subject: Re: Twilettes
Country Paul:
> Next, for the past few weeks, I've been enjoying a highly
> strange 45 via the net about which I know nothing beyond
> the artist and title: The Twilettes, "Where's My Baby".
> The sound is 2 1/2 minutes of magnificence.
Hey Paul,
Where did you hear it ?
Frank
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 05:37:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: Artie Wayne
Subject: Re: Arties for Arties' Sake
Phil M.........That's funny....I used to mix up Artie Resnick
and Artie Ripp with myself!!
regards, Artie Wayne
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 10:31:59 -0000
From: Billy G. Spradlin
Subject: Re: Spector Soundalikes CD?
Rashkovsky:
> Place your order for "Phil's Spectre" on Ace (CDCHD 978).
This CD sounds great - is there a track listing somewhere?
UK or USA only artists?
BTW: For those who loved Love and Tears' "Needles and Pins"
I discovered a better sounding version of it online and played
it to musica. Enjoy!
Billy
http://listen.to/jangleradio
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 06:35:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: Artie Wayne
Subject: Johnny Cash
Although I never met Johnny Cash, I have to count him as an
important influence in my music and my life. When I was a kid
I asked my mother for a phonograph player one Christmas and
begged her for three LPs.........the Elvis Christmas album,
Clyde McPhatter and the Drifters,and the first Johnny Cash
Sun album.
When I learned how to play the guitar [from making diagrams
of Buddy Holly's fingers from the third row of an Alan Freed
Rock n' Roll] the first song I learned was,"Peggy Sue"......
....the second was " I Walk the Line".
As an African-American it was difficult to explain Johnny Cash
to my inner-city friends,most of whom had heard the name......
but not the music.Then I turned them onto his chilling....near
monotone delivery of songs that had deeper meaning than most of
the pop music of the day.When they listened......they understood
.........Johnny Cash was real!!
What amazes me about the man and his career,was his ability to
stay relevant. I'm 62 years old and after writing songs for over
40 years I've wondered if I still had anything left to say.....
....then I saw Johnny's video of "Hurt" and realized age can make
you more relevant.
regards,
Artie Wayne
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 06:07:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mike Nathan
Subject: Rockabilly Women
I saw information about a PBS documentary called "Welcome to
the Club" which traced the history of women in rockabilly.
This movie featured some great video clips and present day
interviews. Does anyone know how to get a copy of this video?
Thanks,
Mike Nathan
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 07:41:57 -0500 (CDT)
From: Todd
Subject: Re: George Harrison in Benton, U.S.A.
> I don't live in St. Louis or Benton, but this guy
> used to in Rockford and reviewed the book on
> George's first visit:
> http://billionbrads.home.att.net/harrison.htm
Funny this should come up. I DO live in Benton, IL.
Got this book autographed by the author a few months back.
Neat little story about Harrison's visit here 40 years ago.
Todd
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 10:51:59 +0100
From: Ken Silverwood
Subject: Re: Spector Soundalikes CD?
Mike Rashkow:
> Place your order for Phil's Spectre on Ace (CDCHD 978).
> It should be out by the end of the month.
Does anyone have a full track listing?
I know Jackie DeShannon& P J Proby are on it.
Ken On The West Coast.
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 17:37:43 -0000
From: Ron Sauer
Subject: Re: Bobby Darin
Artie,
I would love it if you would elaborate on your discovery
and work with Bobby Darin.
Thanks,
Ron
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 12:51:55 -0400
From: Alan Zweig
Subject: Sugar Shoppe
Art Longmire:
> I'm really in with the recent Spectropop threads - I also have
> this LP. It's definitely sort of light sunshine pop. The liner
> notes say that they were heavily influenced by the Mamas and
> the Papas. One thing I notice about this group-one of the members
> has possibly the most unusual facial hair I've ever seen-makes
> him look like a Satanist or a vampire. And the other three look
> so clean cut!
I could make Mr Botticelli happy and talk about how the
Sugar Shoppe fit in with my theories about the relationship
between hair length and sunshine pop but instead I'll just
point out that the less hairy man in the group currently
stars in the popular TV program "Alias". Victor Garber.
He was also in the Godspell movie I believe. And while I'm
at it, I don't think of their sound as "light" sunshine pop.
Or at least there's much much lighter stuff out there.
They were on TV around these parts a lot when I was a lad.
AZ
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 16:35:21 -0000
From: Patrick Rands
Subject: Re: Unreleased or Not?
markt439 wrote:
> I have had the following records on my want list for a long, long
> time and I am wondering if they really exist or if they were just
> listed on release lists but never really came out.
> Ginny Tiu - I've Got to Make Up With You (Amaret 104)
I could've sworn I posted about this single in one of the
yahoogroups but I can't find a message anywhere. Also it's
been a while since I heard this single, so I hope my info
is correct. It's a super fine piece of girl pop with Ginny
playing piano along with her vocal. The backing group is
billed as The Few (previously she had performed and recorded
with her siblings who we re no where near as talented as she
on the Ed Sullivan Show at the age of 5). Also one of the
sides was written by Lesley Gore's brother Michael (so I'd say
it's a must own for a Gorehead). Surprisingly, Lesley did not
record a version and it's not even listed in the list of lost
unreleased songs. I'll try and dig it up in the near future.
It comes up at ebay fairly frequently.
:Patrick
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 07:50:48 -0400
From: Mark Wirtz
Subject: Phil Spector on TV
David Young writes:
> Unfortunately, despite the fact that there were two posts here
> recently about an upcoming appearance by Phil on CNN, apparently
> each of the messages had incorrect information and I missed it.
I missed it too, but would love to see it if there could be a
second chance to. Please let me know how I could obtain a copy,
at cost, of course.
Best,
Mark Wirtz
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 14:17:17 +0000
From: David Young
Subject: Twilettes
Country Paul wanted more information on The Twilettes'
glorious 45, and I'm only too happy to oblige. There is
indeed an impressive pedigree behind the sound: Like its
flip side, "Boss Town Shuffle", "Where's My Baby" is written
by Steve Venet and produced by him along with Lester Sill.
The single is on Darcey 5002. Great two-sider.
David
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 08:45:55 -0400
From: James Cassidy
Subject: Spector on CNN?
CNN posts transcripts of its shows about three days after
they've aired. Below is the link for "Paula Zahn Now".
When I checked it a minute ago, the most recent program was
Friday's (9/12) and Spector was not on it.
http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/pzn.html
Jim Cassidy
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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 14:19:24 -0000
From: Nancy M
Subject: Soda Pop Babies - web site
Re: Soda Pop Babies
Paul' the web site is http://www.doowopshoobop.com
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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 19:54:58 +0100
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Re: "Phil's Spectre: A Wall Of Soundalikes" CD
Mike Rashkow:
> Place your order for Phil's Spectre on Ace (CDCHD 978).
> It should be out by the end of the month.
Ken Silverwood:
> Does anyone have a full track listing? I know Jackie
> DeShannon & P J Proby are on it.
As requested, the full tracklist:
PHIL'S SPECTRE: A WALL OF SOUNDALIKES (Ace CDCHD 978)
1: Jackie DeShannon 'When You Walk In The Room'
2: The Supremes 'Run, Run, Run'
3: Sonny and Cher 'Just You'
4: The Beach Boys 'Why Do Fools Fall In Love'
5: The Darnells 'Too Hurt To Cry, Too Much In Love To Say Goodbye'
6: The Corsairs and Landy McNeil 'On The Spanish Side'
7: The Wall Of Sound 'Hang On'
8: Gene Pitney 'Tremblin''
9: Alder Ray 'A Little Love (Will Go A Long Way)'
10: Nino Tempo and April Stevens 'All Strung Out'
11: The Four Pennies 'When The Boy's Happy (The Girl's Happy Too)'
12: The Righteous Brothers '(You're My) Soul And Inspiration'
13: Dorothy Berry 'You're So Fine'
14: Clydie King 'Missin' My Baby'
15: Ray Raymond 'It Breaks My Heart'
16: Hale and the Hushabyes 'Yes Sir That's My Baby'
17: The Walker Brothers 'Love Her'
18: The Dolls 'My Heart Reminds Me'
19: Nino Tempo 'Boys Town'
20: Carol Connors 'My Baby Looks, But He Don't Touch'
21: Kane and Abel 'He Will Break Your Heart'
22: Lorraine and the Delights 'I Just Couldn't Say'
23: P. J. Proby 'I Can't Make It Alone'
24: The Attack 'Please Phil Spector'
Hey la,
Mick Patrick
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Message: 18
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 20:04:09 +0100
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Re: Twilettes
Country Paul:
> Next, for the past few weeks, I've been enjoying a highly
> strange 45 via the net about which I know nothing beyond
> the artist and title: The Twilettes, "Where's My Baby."
> The sound is 2 1/2 minutes of magnificence - a low-budget
> but effective Spectorian track, an astonishingly haunting
> call-and-response gospel vocal, and, for the first 90
> seconds or so, eloquent lyrics (my favorite line: "My heart
> is still broken / waiting for the door to open.") In the
> last minute, the lyric descends to the pits of triteness
> and literalism, hitting its nadir with, "Did he join the
> Navy or the Marines?" But then again, there's that sound,
> that gorgeous sound. So: (1) Does anyone have any info on
> this, please - label, producer, writer, background?
Yes, but do you like it, Paul? :-)
Our pal David's already given you the label copy, so here's
a little info about the group from me. The Twilettes were
Noraniece Allen, Elaine Brown, her sister Charlotte Brown
and - ta-ra ta-ra - lead singer Carolyn Willis. The same
group also recorded as the Sweethearts (on the Ray Starr and
Kent labels) and the Nightingales (Ray Starr). Carolyn Willis,
of course, also performed with the Girlfriends (Colpix), Bob
B. Soxx & the Blue Jeans (live) and the Honey Cone (Hot Wax).
Ask me another.
> Does anyone have it available to play to musica, or is
> it in print somewhere?
Your wish is my command, my friend. Click here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/files/musica/
The B-side's great too.
Hey la,
Mick Patrick
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Message: 19
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 14:04:53 -0400
From: Stewart Mason
Subject: Re: Sugar Shoppe
Art Longmire writes:
> I'm really in with the recent Spectropop threads - I also have
> this LP. It's definitely sort of light sunshine pop. The liner
> notes say that they were heavily influenced by the Mamas and
> the Papas. One thing I notice about this group-one of the members
> has possibly the most unusual facial hair I've ever seen-makes
> him look like a Satanist or a vampire. And the other three look
> so clean cut!
And of course, the clean-cut male in the group is up for an Emmy
for best supporting actor in a drama this weekend! That's a lot
different than most of the Where Are They Now? stories you hear
on Spectropop...
I also really enjoy the Sugar Shoppe LP. Laurie Hood, the Michelle
Phillips of the group, is both a terrific singer (she'd do well
on the cabaret circuit) and certainly one of the most stunningly
attractive women in her time and genre. I don't believe she did
much professionally after the Sugar Shoppe, although I was told a
few years ago that she did backing vocals on an album by the
Canadian prog-pop trio Klaatu in the mid-to-late '70s: she had been
the receptionist in the studio where they were recording.
S
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Message: 20
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 20:12:51 +0100
From: S'pop Team
Subject: New at S'pop: Annette Tucker
Back in 1966/7 record collectors began noticing a songwriter's
name that was appearing on some quality hit singles. The
Electric Prunes had two of the biggest hits of the psychedelic
era with "I Had Too Much To Dream (Last Night)" and "Get Me To
World On Time". The American Breed proved that they were not
one hit wonders with a frenetic Top-40 entry, "Green Light" and
the Knickerbockers put their Beatles' soundalike skills to one
side with the more rockin' "High On Love". These songs were all
co-written by Annette Tucker, the subject of a Spectropop
feature in which she is interviewed by Al Hazan. To quote from
Sundazed Records, Annette "is considered these days to be a
prolific writer in the Psychedelic Composer's Underground with
countless masterpieces to her credit". Wow! But it all started
in the summer of 1961, which is where Al begins the journey:
http://www.spectropop.com/AnnetteTucker/index.htm
Mike Edwards.
Enjoy!
The S'pop Team
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Message: 21
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 15:29:45 -0400
From: Orion
Subject: Re: Sugar Shoppe
Al, do you think it could be considered Bubblegum? The times
I have seen it on eBay it normally will say Bubblegum and/or
Sunshine Pop. I have often wondered if putting the moniker
of Bubblegum on an LP you are selling helps or hurts.
Orion - too many Kens :)
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Message: 22
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 14:36:42 -0400
From: James Botticelli
Subject: Re: Sugar Shoppe
Alan Zweig wrote:
> I could make Mr Botticelli happy and talk about how the
> Sugar Shoppe fit in with my theories about the relationship
> between hair length and sunshine pop but instead I'll just
> point out that the less hairy man in the group currently
> stars in the popular TV program "Alias". Victor Garber.
> He was also in the Godspell movie I believe. And while I'm
> at it, I don't think of their sound as "light" sunshine pop.
> Or at least there's much much lighter stuff out there.
> They were on TV around these parts a lot when I was a lad.
Sunshine pop and TV go together quite nicely. Both imitative arts.
Television - particularly late 6Ts and early 7Ts - created to
bring movie lite entertainment into the home, and sunshine pop to
lighten the weight of heavy, more "serious" rock...But Mr Zweig's
hair theory bears repeating in this context. He presented it a few
years back in another context but I'm hoping he can re-present it
in Spectropop fashion for the connoisseurs on the list. And I like
The Sugar Shoppe. Incidentally, Mr Zweig's film "Vinyl" is must-see
-movee for all Spectropoppers IMHO.
JB
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Message: 23
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 16:14:00 -0400
From: Mikey
Subject: Re: "Phil's Spectre: A Wall Of Soundalikes" CD
My advice is that if you want this CD buy it NOW.
I will bet anything that Phil sues ACE. Phil's mantra is
"I'll sue anyone, anytime".
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Message: 24
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 20:48:10 -0000
From: B Vlaovic
Subject: Oh Canada!
Once again the http://1050chum.com website provides a lot of
statistical info to help in identifying Canadian groups/hits etc.
The Sugar Shoppe managed a #20 placing with 'Canada' in the
summer of 1967. For any listeners who might not have been aware,
1967 was the 100th anniversary of Canadian confederation, so the
country was awash in a deluge of patriotism....The song (I assume)
is the same one that 'The Young Canada Singers' took into the top
10 earlier in the same year. Is it or is it not? Anyone know?
And I assume that 'Clean cut guy who's up for an Emmy' is Victor
Garber (from my hometown of London, Ont).
If you're looking for soft Canadian pop from around that time I'd
suggest the Poppy Family (some US success), The Lords of London (#1
in mid-67 with the light-psych-pop track 'Cornflakes and Ice Cream')
or possibly the Bells! Known mostly for the euro-styled 'Stay
Awhile' they hit a peak early on in 1968 with 'Moody Manitoba
Morning'. Not much of a hit, but an absolute ringer for Saint
Etienne circa 1998 (Good Humour). Also Rain feat. Charity Brown
(who had a semi-successful Canadian solo career in the mid 70s) were
in a light pop vein. She might not have been brilliant in Rain, but
on her own really didn't get the recognition she deserved. She
remains my favourite female singer of the 70s, Canadian or otherwise.
and also...
Re the Willows connection to Toronto....maybe. The Chum chart shows
them charting at #17 in June of 1966 with 'My Kind Of Guy'. And as
for them being a later version of the Girlfriends, I can't answer,
but 'My One & Only Jimmy Boy' went to #21 in February of 1964 which
is a lot more than it did in the US. If it's true then I can add
them to the small group of Canadian Girl Group singers/Acts who had
some regional success in the mid 60s....Pat Hervey, The Allan
Sisters, Shirley Matthews....
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Message: 25
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 14:51:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Coyle
Subject: Re: HIT Records
My latest Hit Records acquisition is their soundalike
platter pairing "Light My Fire" with "Hush". I was
hoping to hear some middle-aged Nashville crooner
trying to sound stoned while a church pianist
butchered Ray Manzarek's famous intro, but it turns
out to be a version based on that by Jose Feliciano,
and the guitar playing is pretty good. Not a bad
reproduction. I think at least one of the versions is
credited to the Chords.
David
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