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There are 17 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. New Establishment
From: Mark T
2. Re: Gale Garnett
From: James Botticelli
3. Re: Art Wayne Acetate
From: Mark T
4. New at Catalog-of-Cool.com
From: Kim Cooper
5. Breakaways/Peggy Lipton LP/Dave Walton
From: Mark T
6. Re: Oh Canada!
From: Michel Gignac
7. Ginny Tiu
From: Clark Besch
8. Get well, Mike!
From: Sean Anglum
9. Re: Phil Spector on TV
From: Martin Jensen
10. Spector on A&E
From: B. Vlaovic
11. The T.A.M.I. show
From: Kurt
12. Re: Gale Garnett
From: Phil Milstein
13. Re:Adrienne - Poster vs Posta
From: Ken Silverwood
14. Re: Keith Olsen
From: James Botticelli
15. Re: Phil Spector on A & E
From: Gary Spector
16. When school is out this year
From: Paul Balser
17. Girl group conundrums
From: Jules Normington
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 23:39:30 -0000
From: Mark T
Subject: New Establishment
I really like this group [New Establishment] and would love
to track down their unreleased LP on Colgems. Does anyone
know any info about the group members (other than what is
listed in the Whitburn book).
Keith D'Arcy wrote:
> Jack Keller also wrote for the fabulous New Establishment,
> who apparently have a "great lost LP" that was recorded for
> Colgems but never released. Sob, sob.
The New Establishment vocal theme was used on Here Come The
Brides for the first season and they went to an instrumental
for the second season. In syndication, as Screen Gems did on
many other shows (Partridge Family, Monkees, Flintstones, etc.)
they put the opening credits from the final season on all of
the episodes so that the first season credits have not been
seen since the original airing. This theme, which should have
been on Rhino's 3 volume Tube Toons (but was not, Bobby Sherman
instead!) finally appeared on Television's Greatest Hits, Volume 5.
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 19:59:21 -0400
From: James Botticelli
Subject: Re: Gale Garnett
Phil Milstein wrote:
> Oops. I stand corrected. I believe she formed a new band
> once she moved to L.A. Members of it were subsequently
> drafted by Sean Bonniwell to become The Music Machine.
Wait, are you saying that Gale Garnett, of "We'll Sing In
The Sunshine" fame (right?), 's band became the great Music
Machine??? Really??? My high school band used to cover
"Some Other Drum" by them!
JB
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 00:56:05 -0000
From: Mark T
Subject: Re: Art Wayne Acetate
Jeffrey Glenn wrote:
> And lastly, I've played "Good Weather Machine" by Charlotte Russe
> (Philips 40596, 1969) to musica. This 45 is one of my favorites
> that I've found this year! Are there any other similar releases
> under the auspices of Alouette Productions (your company, I'm
> guessing) for which we soft pop/bubblegum fans should be looking
> out?
There are actually 2 Charlotte Russe 45s on Philips and both are
excellent.
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 19:53:16 -0700
From: Kim Cooper
Subject: New at Catalog-of-Cool.com
There are fresh New Digs in the Sounds section of Catalog of Cool
online: appreciations of the Baja Marimba Band and Los Straitjackets.
Do drop in if you're inclined.
http://www.catalog-of-cool.com/newdigssounds.html
Kim Cooper
Kitten with a Hip
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 01:07:04 -0000
From: Mark T
Subject: Breakaways/Peggy Lipton LP/Dave Walton
Nice to see that Castle finally put something out but too bad
RPM couldn't do it so that we could have gotten the 2 later
singles on different labels. I guess that kills any chance of
us ever getting those later tracks.
G. Monteleone wrote:
> Does anyone have Peggy Lipton's album, titled Peggy Lipton,
I have the LP and I will look up the info for you tonight.
Not a very good LP by the way and the follow-up singles
were no better.
Mike Edwards wrote:
> Dave Walton's "Every Window In The City" is a fine record
> with a big production sound. The sound quality is excellent.
> Martin Robert's Irving Martin page is well up to his usual standard.
Could you give more info on this Dave Walton record?
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 04:24:03 -0000
From: Michel Gignac
Subject: Re: Oh Canada!
B. Vlaovic wrote:
> Once again the http://1050chum.com website provides a lot of
> statistical info to help in identifying Canadian groups/hits etc.
> The Sugar Shoppe managed a #20 placing with 'Canada' in the
> summer of 1967. For any listeners who might not have been aware,
> 1967 was the 100th anniversary of Canadian confederation, so the
> country was awash in a deluge of patriotism....The song (I assume)
> is the same one that 'The Young Canada Singers' took into the top
> 10 earlier in the same year. Is it or is it not? Anyone know?
Sugar Shoppe's "Canada" is the same song as The Young Canadian
Singers's one, but the arrangement is very different. It is
available on "Lost Jukebox Volume 1" compilation.
Michel Gignac
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 16:01:34 -0000
From: Clark Besch
Subject: Ginny Tiu
Hi Patrick,
I agree the Amaret 100 Ginny Tiu 45 is good! Funny that it
was likely Amaret's first 45 release!! Crow's great "Time To
Make A Turn" did well in Kansas, reaching #6 in Wickita in '69.
Anyway, I also have Amaret 100, but not 104. Wonder why that
other 45 is harder to find? I do have a color picture of Ginny
Tiu and the Few that I believe was maybe a picture sleeve for a
foreign 45, if I remember correctly. Seems to me that the "Few"
were 4 or 5 kids - not exactly a "few" to me. Since it was
their first release for the label, I would guess that Bill Traut
would know a lot about them. I talked to Bill in California in
'93 or so, but lost track of him later. If you can find him,
he'd likely have some good info.
Take care,
Clark
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 10:49:34 -0600
From: Sean Anglum
Subject: Get well, Mike!
Word from the Bits & Pieces website is that Mike Smith of
the DC5 was seriously injured in a fall at his home in Spain.
It's reported that he is in hospital in critical condition.
Please take a moment and say a little prayer in your chosen
form of worship or contemplation for Mike.
-Sean Anglum
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 17:59:58 -0000
From: Martin Jensen
Subject: Re: Phil Spector on TV
Mark Wirtz wrote:
> I missed it too, but would love to see it if there could be a
> second chance to.
Can anyone who saw it briefly tell us what it was like? Was Phil
actually guesting on the show, or was he merely the subject of
the program?
With regards
Martin :-)
Denmark
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 18:04:52 -0000
From: B. Vlaovic
Subject: Spector on A&E
Damn! I missed it. Meant to tape it, but I'm sure as with
all other biographies, it'll be available for purchase. I do
have a 1-hour documentary on Mr. Spector that I recorded off
of PBS around 1983/84....I think it's a British Channel 4
thing. Dreadful! All the vintage performance clips were
filtered to look absolutely scuzzy and sleazy...interviews are
ok (especially when Ronnie Spector sings the first line of 'Why
Do Fools Fall In Love'). One real exception though is in the
interview with muckraker supreme Albert Goldman, who comes off
so condescending and mewling....and so predictable in his
opinion of the music.
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 12:32:10 -0700
From: Kurt
Subject: The T.A.M.I. show
While looking through some old VHS tapes of mine, I came
across "That Was Rock - The T.A.M.I. Show"
It's easily one of the most exciting pop films ever (despite
Chuck Berry's intrusions/introductions)
It really documents a kind of organised pop chaos. All the
performances seem on or beyond the edge. Even Jan and Dean
seem extra giddy and ready to explode.
I apologise if the T.A.M.I. show has already been a topic here,
but I'd love to get a little in-depth background on the show.
There was also a follow-up show, called "The Big T.N.T. Show"
Was Spector involved in that? And is it on DVD yet? If so,
does it have any extras? Is "T.N.T." on video or DVD?
Any T.A.M.I. facts, gossip or odd rumours would be appreciated.
cheers,
Kurt
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Houseplant Picture Studio
http://www.houseplantstudios.com
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 17:12:42 +0000
From: Phil Milstein
Subject: Re: Gale Garnett
Jimmy Botticelli wrote:
> Wait, are you saying that Gale Garnett, of "We'll Sing In
> The Sunshine" fame (right?),'s band became the great Music
> Machine??? Really??? My high school band used to cover
> "Some Other Drum" by them!
At least half of the M.M. had been recruited from G.G.'s
band (Gentle Reign? That I don't know). One of them was organist
Keith Olsen, who went on to produce Fleetwood Mac's Rumours
album. I'd look all this up in Bonniwell's autobio to verify
details, except my copy is presently on loan. Some other time,
perhaps.
--Phil M.
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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 00:16:25 +0100
From: Ken Silverwood
Subject: Re:Adrienne - Poster vs Posta
Wasn't she at one time Adrienne Posta?
Mick, did you recommend taking a listen to Lulu's version of
"Here Comes The Night" & did you say Bert Berns was at the
controls?, Well I've had a listen & it's tremendous. Did it
come up against Them's version at the time?
One more question - who did Jill Jackson's effort, similar to
Lulu's?
Ken On The West Coast.
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 20:34:03 -0400
From: James Botticelli
Subject: Re: Keith Olsen
Previously:
> At least half of the M.M. had been recruited from Gale Garnet's
> band (Gentle Reign? That I don't know). One of them was organist
> Keith Olsen, who went on to produce Fleetwood Mac's Rumours
> album.
I knew that Olsen was a producer as I've seen his name on a few credits
these past couple of years as I became more aware of the playas in this
realm. Although I can't remember which songs I saw him credited on.
Anyone who has knowledge of this, I'd appreciate a posting to this list
of a few of Olsen's better productions. "Rumors" was never anything to
me personally--I was more a fan of The Rotters' reaction to Stevie Nicks
;-), although I imagine it put braces on little Olsen's teeth. I always
wondered if it was the same Keith Olsen that played in Music Machine.
Funny world, eh?
JB
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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 20:05:08 -0600
From: Gary Spector
Subject: Re: Phil Spector on A & E
Hello,
Phil Spector was just the focus of the Biography and was not a speaker.
For the most part it was like any other biography on him. The only
thing new were the comments from family members. I thought it was
alright.
Gary Spector
Not just another PS Fan
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Message: 16
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 22:41:21 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
From: Paul Balser
Subject: When school is out this year
Is the song "When school is out this year" on any of the Four
Freshman's CDs?
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Message: 17
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 03:56:53 -0000
From: Jules Normington
Subject: Girl group conundrums
Hi there..I'm new to this list but have been a fan of the sound for
some30+ years...used to travel all over the US in the late 70s/early
80s picking up singles to send back to my shop here in Sydney. Boy,
that was fun. Spotted Mick Patrick's name here...his PHILATELY mags
were a highlight of the month/quarter/year back when. (Hi there Mick.)
Anyway, I've decided to sell a stack of girl group/solo 45s and have
run aground when researching a few of them...coming up with no info
anywhere on:
the Wood Sisters on Philips...
the Tulips on MGM...
Tammy and the Carolinas on Larson...
Jill Harris on Capitol...
Angela Drake on Pica...
Suzanne (Mullins) with the Band-Aides on Liberty...
...There's quite a few more too...all ones I've had stashed away since
about 1979/80. Is there any book/website that has any info on any of
these artists? Vern Joynson's books on 60's garage and psych artists
are champ tomes with a heap of ardent research within...would love to
know if there was ever a similar style book on girl groups (or indeed
if there's anything similar in the pipeline).
Any snippets of info on any of the above would be much appreciated.
Regards, Jules Normington
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