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Spectropop - Digest Number 1083
- From: Spectropop Group
- Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003
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SPECTROPOP - Spectacular! Retro! Pop!
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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Alder Ray - 'Cause I Love Him
From: Stephanie
2. Re: Rose Garden CD
From: Art Longmire
3. Jerome Brothers
From: Martin Roberts
4. Re: Dew Drop Inn
From: That Alan Gordon
5. Re: Definitive Rock Chorale / Other Voices
From: Mike Rashkow
6. New addition to musica
From: Martin Jensen
7. Re: Kurt Russell
From: Mike Rashkow
8. Re: Senator Bobby et al
From: Ron Sauer
9. Re: Ellie's Birthday
From: Max Weiner
10. Tony Pass/Fascinators
From: Doowopdaddy
11. Thank you
From: Artie Wayne
12. You may want to RUN (not walk) from this!
From: Tom Taber
13. Re: Simon & Garfunkel
From: David Coyle
14. Re: Hardy Boys
From: Patrick Rands
15. Re: Starsailor v. Dandy Warhols
From: Patrick Rands
16. Re: Foreign language songs
From: Don
17. Re: Lollipops
From: Mark Frumento
18. Re: The Coronados
From: Billy G. Spradlin
19. Re: Austin Roberts
From: Art Longmire
20. Re: Jerome Brothers
From: Phil Milstein
21. Austin Roberts - Jerome Brothers
From: Martin Roberts
22. Re: Jack Nitzsche at Spectropop Update
From: Artie Wayne
23. Re: Austin Roberts
From: Mikey
24. Re: Barbara English
From: Artie Wayne
25. Bonner/Gordon webpage
From: Patrick Beckers
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:04:36 -0000
From: Stephanie
Subject: Re: Alder Ray - 'Cause I Love Him
That is one of my favorite songs..
Stephanie
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:43:18 -0000
From: Art Longmire
Subject: Re: Rose Garden CD
Mark wrote:
> CCM strikes again. Rose Garden had 1 10-track LP and 2 non-LP
> sides so of course CCM puts out the album and leaves off the
> 2 sides of the single. That is so weak. I take back my prior
> comment that they are like Collectibles with a better catalogue.
> They're worse than Collectibles because Collectibles would have
> added the 2 songs. And now the market is ruined for anyone else
> to put the LP out with their complete output. CCM should do us
> a favor and NOT release these things if they can't do them right.
If I had a penny for every time a company has left off key tracks of
an artist's output, I would be a rich man...they lose a lot of sales
that way. For instance, Rhino put out an Association compilation a
while back and didn't include "Rose Petals, Incense and a Kitten",
one of my FAVORITE tracks by them...without that track I couldn't
spring for the CD.
Art
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:31:36 +0100
From: Martin Roberts
Subject: Jerome Brothers
Country Paul asked about The Jerome Brothers:
> I'm trying to remember which artists they were involved with,
> but I'm blanking out. Any hints, please?
Hi Paul,
Shortly after I'd been introduced to the wonderful Reparata &
the Delrons and various other 45s bearing the legend, "World
United Productions", "Real Good Productions" or a simpler
"Produced by Bill And Steve Jerome" the equally wonderful Mick
Patrick supplied, through "The Phil Spector Appreciation
Society", a Xerox copy of "Bill & Steve Jerome - The Early Years,
profiled by Edward R. Engel" for "Time Barrier Express". For
lovers of the back-room boys of 60s pop, it's indispensable.
The vocalists and groups that they signed to their own labels
and/or wrote and/or produced for reads like a who's who of
'almost greats'. Starting with early 60s doo-wop with The Chants,
Harps, Palisades, Cupids, Demolyrs, Camelots, fine rock 'n' roll
with Barry Darvell, Darin D'Anna, various girl groups (many
involving assorted Reparatas and Delrons), harmony/rock groups
including Kenny Young's, San Francisco Earthquake, Left Banke,
Ox Bow Incident, Front End, Blades Of Grass, Fifth Estate (who
recorded Gordon-Bonner's "Do Drop Inn" - not the same song as
Jean Mays) and many, many more. Plenty of other Bonner and
Gordon compositions are to be found amongst the Jerome Brothers'
productions, including The Furnacemen's, "Sleeping Out The Storm",
which I think soft poppers would love.
But as I introduced in my earlier letter, their explosive, uptempo
doo-wop records are hard to beat. The Harps' "Marie" is on
"The Laurie Story, Vol.2" and when there's some room I'll play
another groovy item to musica.
Martin
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:29:24 -0700 (MST)
From: That Alan Gordon
Subject: Re: Dew Drop Inn
Country Paul wondered if "Dew Drop Inn" was recorded by
Jean Mays? To be honest with you, I do not know and apparently
neither does the BASS PLAYER!
That Alan
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 18:33:55 EDT
From: Mike Rashkow
Subject: Re: Definitive Rock Chorale / Other Voices
Mark wrote:
> I have the 4 singles by DRC and the 2 by Other Voices and
> they are all excellent. Just scanning some old posts on these
> 2 groups and I guess one of the song writers is a member.
> I would like to know if either group had any unreleased
> recordings or was what came out on 45 all there was?
I think these were all there were, but I have to check with Mick.
He knows more about my records than I do.
Thanks for asking. My personal favorites are "I Hear The Grass
Singing" (for which I have been praying that pot would be
legalized--hey guys psssttt over here--I've got the jingle ready)
and "Variations On A Theme Called Hanky Panky" --the execution
may be a little less than what we tried for, but it wasn't easy).
Di da,
Rashkovksy
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 23:19:57 -0000
From: Martin Jensen
Subject: New addition to musica
Hi folks,
Since joining the group some months ago, I have really enjoyed
listening to all the cool tracks in 'Musica'.
So, wanting to contribute a bit myself, I have uploaded a '66
single called 'Naked When You Come' by the Danish pop group
the Lollipops. I really like the somewhat eerie feel of this
song and the effective arrangement. I seem to recall having
read somewhere, that the recording of this particular song was
supervised by an American producer living in Sweden at the time.
Throughout the 60s the Lollipops did record some other equally
great songs, especially a great Motown-like one called 'Stop
(Before You Break my Heart)'. As far as I know, they did not
find success outside Scandinavia...
Hope you like the song. :-)
With regards
Martin, Denmark
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 18:39:07 EDT
From: Mike Rashkow
Subject: Re: Kurt Russell
Mark wrote:
> More like Austin Roberts stuff under different names
> like Horizon, etc.
Funny you should mention Austin Roberts (George Robertson).
I have been in touch with him for several months and encouraged
him to join the group many times.
He worked a lot with Johnny Cymbal, with whom I also wrote a
little bit. Very nice fellow. He's going through some difficult
times.
Anyone who is familiar with him and his work might like to contact
him and tell him about the wonders of S'Pop.
Reach him at: georgerobertson@aol.com Tell him I sent you.
Di da,
Rashkovsky
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:12:41 -0000
From: Ron Sauer
Subject: Re: Senator Bobby et al
There was also an Columbia LP called "Chet Dowling and Bill Minkin
Present Senator Bobby's Christmas Party" from 1967. No mention of
Chip Taylor in the credits. The musical director was Artie Butler.
Ron
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:52:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: Max Weiner
Subject: Re: Ellie's Birthday
Joe Somsky wrote:
> The Ellie Greenwich Fan Club will be celebrating our 20th
> anniversary in January! What a treat knowing all of YOU for
> so many years! A very happy birthday today to our wonderful
> legendary lady!
Hi Joe;
Hey, I was wondering, can you shoot me some info on Ellie's
fan club. I am also a fan of hers and would love to join.
Lemme know
Mac Joseph
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:55:58 -0400
From: Doowopdaddy
Subject: Tony Pass/Fascinators
Wasn't it one of the members of this group, Tony Pass,
who was a founding member of the doo-wop group the
Fascinators?? He also recorded under the name of Tony
Richards.
doowopdaddy
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 07:21:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: Artie Wayne
Subject: Thank you
Thank you for your prayers, good thoughts and e-mails.
For those of you who are familiar with my page on channeling http://www.geocities.com/artie_wayne/channel.html
......I'm glad to report that my mother is continuing to guide
me from the other side. The other day......when I was feeling
sad......I heard her voice say, "Isn't it time to get back to
work?"
regards, Artie
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 07:52:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tom Taber
Subject: You may want to RUN (not walk) from this!
Here are the REST of my words to "Walk Don't Run."
"Goodbye, Tony. We are no longer happy together."
Whoops! They've already been taken - I'll try again!
Opening bit - "If you run, you're gonna fall, and then
you'll get hurt -
Don't you dare - go home to Mom - all covered in
dirt."
end of middle bit -
Learn to perambulate - slow down 'fore it's too late,
Clown! Slow
your
a--
down...
2nd time - Plenty of doctors' bills, you'll choke down
lots of pills, chum! Walk
and
chew
gum...
The first half of the middle bit* is giving me trouble
- maybe one of you "pros" can take a crack at it!
*da da da da da da da dah - dah; da da da da da da
dah-dah dah-ah!
Tom Taber
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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:25:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Coyle
Subject: Re: Simon & Garfunkel
As a result of no money and a changing of jobs (and
the help of not winning a contest), the Simon &
Garfunkel/Everly Brothers tour was both a dream come
true and a wish unfulfilled for me.
I had resigned myself to not being able to catch the
show in Columbus the other night. I pondered the
possible opening acts and had come to a conclusion
that they would be their own supporting acts. A Paul
Simon set, an Art Garfunkel set, and then the big
reunion.
Then I found out it was to be the EVERLY BROTHERS!
Crud. What a perfect lineup!
As it is, I thought to myself that I could rest
assured that hearing both acts in their prime would be
best, and that I would be better served by listening
to their classic recordings, and the wonderful
available performances from Lincoln Center 1967 and
Central Park 1981. And surely hearing the Everly
Brothers live in 1993 would be only a little
improvement over hearing their classic Cadence/Warners
period.
But I too would love to hear reviews of this dream
tour, so I can vicariously experience it through the
stories of others who didn't miss it. Write on!
David
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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:22:37 -0000
From: Patrick Rands
Subject: Re: Hardy Boys
Mark wrote:
> I really liked the first album but thought the second one
> was not nearly as strong.
Hi Mark,
I disagree, I love both The Hardy Boys records. "Carnival Time",
"Good, Good Lovin'" and "I Hear The Grass Singin'" are all great
songs from the 2nd LP. Sadly, it seems these albums will never
get reissued on CD. There were demos posted here awhile ago which
were just as good as the LPs.
Here's a great website:
http://home.att.net/~bubblegumusic/hardyboys.htm
:Patrick
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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:25:40 -0000
From: Patrick Rands
Subject: Re: Starsailor v. Dandy Warhols
Keith Moore wrote:
> ...But if any spectropop fans fancy something a bit
> contemporary to listen I'd like to point them in the direction
> of the Dandy Warhols.
Hi Keith,
I would also say, in regard to the Dandy Warhols, if you like
them, be sure and check out the Brian Jonestown Massacre. They
just put out a new album ..."And This is Our Music" and it's
really great stuff. Vintage equipment, 1960s mentality, with
some modern song structure. They are touring now too.
:Patrick
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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:29:19 -0000
From: Don
Subject: Re: Foreign language songs
As a collector of Goffin/King songs, I have many foreign language
versions of their songs, some by English-speaking artists.
Chinese:
Ming Tian Ni Shi Fou Yi Ran Ai Wo (Will You Love Me Tomorrow)-
Angus Tong An Ge
Czech:
Loco-Motion - Hana Zagorova
Finnish:
Kun Katsoo Mua Hän Silmiin (When My Little Girl Is Smiling) - Kirka
Lainaa Vain (Child Of Mine) - Maarit
French:
Aime-La Comme Je L'aime (Take Good Care Of My Baby) - Pierre Lalonde
Attends (Hey Girl) - Richard Anthony
Chance (Chains) - Johnny Hallyday
Chance (Chains) - Sylvie Vartan
Chez Moi (Down Home) - Dalida
Demain Tu Peux Changer (Will You Love Me Tomorrow) - Dusty Springfield
Je Ne Veux Plus T'Aimer (I Can't Stay Mad At You) - Tiny Yong
Je Veux Rester Seul Avec Toi (I Want To Stay Here) - Claude Francois
J'Irai Pleurer Sous La Pluie (Crying In The Rain) - Richard Anthony
Loco-Motion - Sylvie Vartan
Loco-Motion - Ginette Reno
Loco-Motion - Harold Nicholas
Loco-Motion - Burt Blanca
Loco-Motion/Sunny/Na Na Hey Hey - Kieu Nga
Ne Dis Pas Du Mal De Mon Amour (Don't Say Nothing) - Les Gams
Où Es-tu Grand-Papa (Go Away Little Girl) - René Simard
Oublie Moi (It's Too Late) - Clementine
Plus De Chansons Tristes (No Sad Song) - Sheila
Quand Un Air Vous Possede (When My Little Girl Is Smiling)-
Johnny Hallyday
Sur Le Toit (Up On The Roof) - Richard Anthony
Un Jardin Dans Mon Coeur (You've Got A Friend) - Claude Francois
Va T'En Vit Mon Amour (Go Away Little Girl) - Henri Salvador
Veille Bien Sur Mon Amour (Take Good Care Of My Baby) - Richard Anthony
German:
Ich Bin Dein Freund (You've Got A Friend) - Daliah Lavi
Lass Sie Reden (Don't Say Nothing Bad) - Javalins & die Crazy Girls
Regen In Der Nacht (Crying In The Rain) - Connie Francis
Riesenschritt (Take A Giant Step) - Nina Hagen
Schwing Dich Auf'n Ofen (The Loco-Motion) - Rock, Rudolf & Die
Schocker
Italian:
Loco-Motion - Augusto Righetti
Morirai Senza Di Lei (Crying In The Rain) - Giganti
Non Amarmi Così (Go Away Little Girl) - Steve Lawrence
Non Buttarmi Giu (Don't Bring Me Down) - Riki Maiocchi
Quello Che Ti Dico (Loco-motion) - Claudia Mori
Al Koso Subete (Only Love Is Real) - Express
Japanese:
Loco-Motion - Ito Yukari
Korean:
You've Got A Friend - Pin Nary Roth
Polish:
Czy Pokochasz Mnie Jutro (Will You Love Me Tomorrow) - Zlote Lata
Loco-Motion - Czeslav Nieman
Spanish:
Cuando Despierte Mañana (Will You Love Me Tomorrow) - Jennifer Y
Los Jetz
Loco-Motion - Ana Belen
Loco-Motion - Los Pekenikes
Por Amistad (You've Got A Friend) - Paloma San Basilio
Quiero Quedarme Aqui (I Want To Stay Here) - Eydie Gorme
Quiero Quedarme Aqui (I Want To Stay Here) - Los Dominics
Tienes Un Amigo (You've Got A Friend) - Mocedades
Tienes Un Amigo (You've Got A Friend) - Adrian Batten
Torre De Marfil (Wall Of Smiles) - Soraya
Tu Amigo Fiel (You've Got A Friend) - Jaf
Tu Amigo Fiel (You've Got A Friend) - Lucero
Ven A Bailar (Esta Cumbia) - Johnny Bustamante
Swedish:
Du Har En Vän (You've Got A Friend) - Lill Lindfors
Kom Och Sjung En Sång (No Sad Song) - Anni-Frid Lyngstad (Frida)
Vietnam:
Van Mai Yeu Em (Will You Love Me Tomorrow) - Johnny Dung
There are also several other covers I don't have, which include:
Cinquième saison (Sweet Seasons) - France Castel
Fiere De Toi (Walking Proud) - Audrey
Föddes Till Att Vara - Lalla Hansson
Mon Ami (Where Do I Go) - Sylvie Vartan
Mon amour - Patrick Zabé
Oui C'est Lui (He Is The Boy) - Sylvie Vartan
Partez Tous Mes Amis (Everybody Go Home) - Audrey
Qeuero Ver Voce Viver Sem Mim (Show Me Girl) - Trio Melodia (Brasil)
Se Credi In Quel Che Fai - Marta Lamai (1969)
Tu La Revois (He's In Town) - Ria Bartok
Broodje van Kootje (Loco-Motion) - Peter Koelewijn
Chanson De Dix Sous (I Can't Stay Mad At You) - Richard Anthony
De Liefste Die Ik Ken (Point Of No Return) - Rob De Nijs (1962)
Es Demasiado Tarde (It's Too Late) - Los Shakers
Et Quelque Chose Me Dit (I'm Into Something Good) - Richard
Anthony; Ria Bartok
Il Est Trop Tard (It's Too Late) - Jasmine
J'Ai Peur De Trop T'Aimer (He Knows I Love Him Too Much) -
Geo Forma (1961)
M'Aimeras-Tu Demain (Will You Love Me Tomorrow) - Jerry De Villiers;
Celine Lomez; Les Bises
Ne Prend Pas Mon Amour (Keep Your Hands Off My Baby) - Richard Anthony
No Me Critiques (Don't Bring Me Down) - Los Tijuana Five; Animals
Rien Q'Une Fille (A Natural Woman) - Séverine
Tot Ik Bij Je Ben (You've Got A Friend) - Gerard Cox (1973)
Tu As Un Ami (You've Got A Friend) - Orchestre D.S.P.; Chantal Pary;
Bruce et les Sultans; Robert Demontigny
Nos Amaremos Mañana - Duo Dinamico; Las Hermanas Jimenez
Querras Amarme Manana - Karina
De Zevende Hemel (Halfway To Paradise) - Jimmy Frey
A Mi Chemin Du Paradis (Halfway To Paradise) - Claire Syril
Avec Mon Ange (Walking With My Angel?) - Patrick Zabé
Lov Mig Du Passer Godt På Lise (Take Good Care of My Baby) - Gustav
Winckler
Oye Niña (Hey Girl) - Donny Osmond
Un Beau Jour (One Fine Day) - Jacky Mouliere
Estoy En Algo Bueno (I'm Into Something Good) - Donny Osmond
Ei Eiliseen (Goin' Back) - Maarit (Finnish)
Dê Um Passo à Frente (Take A Giant Step) - The Sunshines
Don
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Message: 17
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:00:44 -0000
From: Mark Frumento
Subject: Re: Lollipops
Martin Jensen wrote
> I have uploaded a '66 single called 'Naked When You Come'
> by the Danish pop group the Lollipops.
Martin, is this the same band who recorded the wonderful pop
song "Words Ain't Enough"? If so, I've been seeking more of
their output. In fact I think there was a CD out but I can't
find a copy.
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Message: 18
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:34:45 -0000
From: Billy G. Spradlin
Subject: Re: The Coronados
Mark wrote:
> Does anyone know anything about this group? They apparently were
> a Spanish group of 2 guys and a girl, had an LP and singles on
> Jubilee, a single on Parliament, a single on RCA and who knows
> what else. There are more Coronados recordings going back to the
> early 60s on various labels and I'm wondering if they are all
> this same group.
I have a single on Dot 45-16758 by the Coronados - "The Nomad"
b/w "Center of Attraction". I think was a regional hit in the
southwest. The sound is stomping 60s garage rock. I dont think
it's the same group that did "Good Morning New Day" which has
female lead vocals.
We could have another case of 2 or more groups with the same name!
Billy
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Message: 19
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:13:48 -0000
From: Art Longmire
Subject: Re: Austin Roberts
Mike Rashkow wrote:
> Funny you should mention Austin Roberts (George Robertson).
> I have been in touch with him for several months and encouraged
> him to join the group many times.
> He worked a lot with Johnny Cymbal, with whom I also wrote a
> little bit. Very nice fellow. He's going through some difficult
> times.
The posts on Austin Roberts got me to thinking about one of his
records I've had for a long time called "Mary and Me" which seems to
fall into the category of both "soft pop" and "sneaky attempts to get
songs about marijuana into the top-40".
I also remember his hit from the early 70s called "There's Something
Wrong With Me".
Art
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Message: 20
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:41:28 +0000
From: Phil Milstein
Subject: Re: Jerome Brothers
Martin Roberts wrote:
> Shortly after I'd been introduced to the wonderful Reparata &
> the Delrons and various other 45s bearing the legend, "World
> United Productions", "Real Good Productions" or a simpler
> "Produced by Bill And Steve Jerome" the equally wonderful Mick
> Patrick supplied, through "The Phil Spector Appreciation
> Society", a Xerox copy of "Bill & Steve Jerome - The Early Years,
> profiled by Edward R. Engel" for "Time Barrier Express". For
> lovers of the back-room boys of 60s pop, it's indispensable.
A helpful oeuvreview, Mr. M.R. Anyone know whatever became of the
Brothers Jerome?
--Phil M.
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Message: 21
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:33:49 +0100
From: Martin Roberts
Subject: Austin Roberts - Jerome Brothers
One of the artists the Jerome Brothers had on their roster
with a number of 45s for Philips was...Austin Roberts.
Martin
http://www.spectropop.com/JackNitzsche/index.htm
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Message: 22
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 14:29:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: Artie Wayne
Subject: Re: Jack Nitzsche at Spectropop Update
Martin..........How ya' doin'?
Thanks for posting "Invisible Chains" [Raleigh/Wayne] by
Dorsey Burnette. Jack Nitzsche did a great arrangement!!
regards, Artie Wayne
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Message: 23
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:32:21 -0400
From: Mikey
Subject: Re: Austin Roberts
I've got his LP. Haven't played it in about 25 years!!!!
I've gotta pull it out.
Mikey
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Message: 24
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 14:47:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: Artie Wayne
Subject: Re: Barbara English
> Barbara (English) was at the S'pop Shindig in New York, looking
> very glamorous at the bar. We chatted, I swooned. I've placed a pic
> of the lovely lady from the event in the S'pop photo section. She
> was a fixture on the Brill Building scene, cutting demos (and
> answering the phone) at Aaron Schroeder Music. I wonder if Artie
> Wayne or Rashkovsky knew her?
Mick...........How ya' doin'? Sorry....but I never met Barbara English.
regards, Artie
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Message: 25
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:26:51 +0200
From: Patrick Beckers
Subject: Bonner/Gordon webpage
A week ago, I posted a list with Bonner/Gordon songs that I know. I have
been doing some homework in the past week and have greatly improved on
that list. For all those that are interested, you can find it online at:
http://www.geocities.com/patriczik/bonner-gordon.htm
Any additions are welcome! Let's make it an even better one and give this
brilliant songwriting duo even more recognition. I am planning to keep
the list online for as long as people are interested in it.
Patrick Beckers
p.s. to That Alan Gordon: thanks for that lovely e-mail!
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