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There are 12 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Boys Town
From: Phil Milstein
2. Miss Cathy Brasher
From: Tony Waitekus
3. Re: karaoke b-sides
From: Andrew Jones
4. Bobby Hatfield
From: Richard Williams
5. Re: Lollipops
From: Martin Jensen
6. Re: Boys Town - karaoke
From: Bill Reed
7. Re: Goldie & the Gingerbreads
From: Mick Patrick
8. Re: It's My Party and I'm Gay if I want to..
From: Phil Milstein
9. Re: Bobby Hatfield Dead at 63
From: Martin Jensen
10. Bobby Hatfield
From: Kingsley Abbott
11. Re: It's My Party and I'm Gay if I want to..
From: Mark Frumento
12. Re: Beverly
From: Paul Underwood
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 09:50:02 +0000
From: Phil Milstein
Subject: Re: Boys Town
Orion wrote:
> I am from Nebraska, home of Boys Town. ...
Boy's Town is also the source of the phrase "He ain't heavy, he's my
brother," a line that (in a slightly different wording) was their motto
for many years.
--Phil M.
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 06:47:30 -0800
From: Tony Waitekus
Subject: Miss Cathy Brasher
Anyone have any information on Miss Cathy Brasher or her song "Only
When I Dream". I have the song on a couple of "gray area" CD's, but
that song sounds like they used a cheap microphone held up to a
record player. It sounds worse than a disc dub. Anyone know where
I could be a better sounding copy of this song? With all the talk
of Spector copycat sounds, this great record came to my mind.
Tony Waitekus
Davenport, IA
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 10:04:14 -0500 (EST)
From: Andrew Jones
Subject: Re: karaoke b-sides
Phil Milstein: The first record that I know of that had a bgv-only
B-side was "Sally Go Round the Roses" by the Jaynetts, on the Tuff
label. That B-side was titled "Instrumental Background to Sally, Go
'Round the Roses" and the artists' credit said "Sing Along Without the
Jaynetts." Cute.
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 10:06:46 +0000
From: Richard Williams
Subject: Bobby Hatfield
Spectropoppers will be saddened to learn of the death of
Bobby Hatfield in his sleep on Wednesday in Kalamazoo,
Michigan, where he was due to appear with Bill Medley.
So that's another combination of sounds that will never
be heard in person again. It makes me so glad I saw them
during a trip to Vegas a few years ago. They were terrific,
of course, doing full justice to their history. The LA
Times obituary is worth reading (http://www.latimes.com
registration required)
RIP.
Richard Williams
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 15:48:09 -0000
From: Martin Jensen
Subject: Re: Lollipops
Clark Besch wrote:
> JJ and all the others,
> I have a radio show promoting the Lollipops' "Freight Train to
> Boston" I can play to Musica when space is freed up if you want to
> hear it. I think for this they added Bob Wills and His Texas
> Cowboys! The song's OK, but they don't quite have the Kennedy Boston
> accent that the Hardly Worthit Players do, y'know? It's funny to
> hear them say "Boston". The lyrics say he only knew one girl from
> Boston. Hmm, so he must not have known her long. :)
I quite like that song - but I'm afraid I won't be able to hear those
mispronounciations you mention. ;-) Thinking of the Lollipops, I
suddenly remembered a funny story. In the late 60s they had a major
Danish hit with a song called 'Sussy Moore', and basked in the glory
of being on top of the hit parade - that is, until it was pointed out
by music affectionados that the song was a note by note ripp off of
Tim Hardin's 'The Lady Came from Baltimore', right down to the name
of the girl sung about! Needless to say, he was listed in the writing
credits on later pressings... :-D
With lots of regards
Martin, Denmark
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 14:55:21 -0000
From: Bill Reed
Subject: Re: Boys Town - karaoke
Phil Milstein:
> Speaking of which, are there many other examples of the bg-vox-only
> instrumental versions of things? "Youm," Bassett Hand's rendition of
> "You Can't Take My Boyfriend's Woody," comes to mind, but there must
> be others.
Two that immediately come to mind are Edwin Starr's "Agent Double O
Soul" and the Jaynettes'immortal AND ambiguous "Sally Go Round the
Roses."
Bill Reed
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 07:30:11 -0000
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Re: Goldie & the Gingerbreads
Martin wrote:
> Now I'm sure Mick knows but did you know that Carol Shaw -
> famed for "Jimmy Boy" on Atco - was really Carol MacDonald,
> lead singer and writer for Goldie & the Gingerbreads...
Actually, Carol wasn't the Gingerbreads' lead singer. Goldie
was. Carol played guitar.
> and later to be co-founder along with fellow Gingerbread
> member Ginger Bianco of the all women rock band, Isis?
> Well neither did I!
Yes you did. It's all in the sleevenotes for the "Where The
Girls Are, Volumes 2 and 4" CDs. You've read those, perhaps?
> But all this info and more is available on JD's excellent
> site: http://www.queermusicheritage.com/index.html
Very interesting site. It's good to know that JD has a new
bent to keep him busy and out of mischief.
Phil Milstein on Goldie:
> Yes indeed, under the (real?) name of Genya Ravan.
Eddy:
> Isn't her real name Goldie Zelkowitz, the name to which she
> returned for her 1974 album.
Actually, her real name is Genya Zelkowitz. So you're both half
correct. She was born in Poland and was given the name Goldie
upon her arrival in the USA. Ravan (pronounced like the black
bird) was an invented name.
"Can't You Hear My Heartbeat"? Great record. Better than that
Herman!
There, and I didn't mention her sexuality once.
Hey la,
Mick Patrick
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 09:45:37 +0000
From: Phil Milstein
Subject: Re: It's My Party and I'm Gay if I want to..
Billy G. Spradlin wrote:
> I remember Joan Jett didn't change the gender when she covered Tommy
> James "Chrimson & Clover" in 1981, it really raised a few eyebrows
> back then!
Patti Smith: Gloria ('75)
--Phil M.
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 15:39:12 -0000
From: Martin Jensen
Subject: Re: Bobby Hatfield Dead at 63
What an incredibly tragic loss. I'm a huge fan of the Righteous
Brothers, and have always been thrilled to hear how Bobby made
exceptional use of his set of pipes on all their classics. His and
Bill's voices really were, imho, one of the best pairings in the
history of popular music.
Take care Bobby, wherever you are.
Martin, Denmark
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 15:31:20 -0000
From: Kingsley Abbott
Subject: Bobby Hatfield
So very sad to hear the news about Bobby Hatfield.
His voice was the perfect foil for Medley's tones, and as such
he was a part of all of us. Our thoughts go out to his family
and close friends.
Kingsley
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 17:20:41 -0000
From: Mark Frumento
Subject: Re: It's My Party and I'm Gay if I want to..
Billy G. Spradlin wrote:
> I remember Joan Jett didnt change the gender when she covered Tommy
> James "Chrimson & Clover" in 1981, it really raised a few eyebrows
> back then!
Am I wrong in remembering that Brian Ferry didn't change the gender
when he sang "It's My Party"? I remember thinking it was cool that he
left it alone. Funny too given his "manly" voice.
On Caroline Now, the Beach Boys tribute CD, The Pearl Fishers do a
great version of "Go Away Boy" with a male lead.
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 19:39:21 +0100
From: Paul Underwood
Subject: Re: Beverly
Clark Besch:
> ..."Happy New Year" by Beverly! Wow, what a record--and written by
> Randy Newman, released early 1967. It's like Cat Stevens' Spectorish
> productions with a female lead. I think I remember Beverly being the
> voice heard in the middle break of Simon & Garfunkel's "Fakin' It".
Steve Harvey:
> Beverly was the woman sitting in the middle of the street with Paul
> Simon on the cover of his very first lp (British issue - which he won't
> allow a reissue of these days). I think they were an item before John
> Martyn showed up.
Now, the thing I remember about this Beverley is an article in Rcord
Mirror by Tony Hall (supposed to be the man who invented the term "wall
of sound") in which he raved about a demo he had received from a
mysterious singer called Beverley, who was going to be signed to the new
Deram label. The song on the demo that he was so enthusiastic about was
called something like "Picking up the sunshine drinking in the tears"
(my memory is less than reliable). Anyone know if the song was ever
released?
Paul
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