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There are 10 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: USA No 1s which were UK chart failures
From: Michael Fishberg
2. Springfield and McKuen
From: David A. Young
3. Re: Hannukah is My Time of Year
From: Frank
4. Re: Liz Damon and the Orient Express
From: Simon White
5. Re: Sonny Curtis
From: Michael Gessner
6. Re: Tunesmith - Jimmy Webb CD
From: Ken Silverwood
7. Re: USA No 1s which were UK chart failures
From: Phil Milstein
8. Re: USA No 1s which were UK chart failures
From: Rob Stride
9. Re: USA No 1s which were UK chart failures
From: Mike Rashkow
10. Re: USA No 1s which were UK chart failures
From: Phil Milstein
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 12:31:18 -0800 (PST)
From: Michael Fishberg
Subject: Re: USA No 1s which were UK chart failures
Tony Leong;
> The biggest US #1 that was a UK flop that I know of was Lulu's "To
> Sir With Love"!! Even the movie was a flop in the UK!!!!!!
I'm sure this cannot be right. What is the source of this info? On
which chart(s) is/are the data based?
Michael Fishberg
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 18:08:55 -0000
From: David A. Young
Subject: Springfield and McKuen
Thank you, Ron, for alerting us to the fact that Dusty and Rod had
done a Christmas TV special called "Christmas in New England" that
resulted in a subsequent CD entitled "Christmas in London." How's
that for a mixed message? Unfortunately, the CD seems to be out of
print, but when I tried to find it at McKuen's Web site:
http://www.stanyanhouse.com it was some consolation to be able to
order, for $10, a VHS video of the show.
David
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 21:43:35 -0000
From: Frank
Subject: Re: Hannukah is My Time of Year
Larry Lapka wrote:
> ...with all the major talents in the recording industry who are
> Jewish, why do Jews release Christmas albums? Why do Jewish
> performers not acknowledge that their holiday is as special as
> Christmas.
Perhaps you have just answered the recent question of why Lesley Gore
never released a Christmas record. Being Jewish never stopped those
such as Streisand, Neil Diamond, and even Phil Spector from joining
the Christmas bandwagon.
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 21:10:08 +0000
From: Simon White
Subject: Re: Liz Damon and the Orient Express
Art:
> I heard or read somewhere that Liz Damon and the Orient Express'
> ....cult favorite of mine mainly because of their great double-
> sided 45 "1900 Yesterday/You're Falling in Love" which is one of
> the great easy listening classics...
Mary:
> Oh, I just love Liz Damon's Orient Express and have two of their
> albums.
A small favorite on the Northern Soul Scene, "You're Falling In Love"
was also recorded by Betty Everett as an album track.
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 02:30:02 -0500
From: Michael Gessner
Subject: Re: Sonny Curtis
One of my favorite Sonny Curtis compositions is "My Way of Livin'". I
read that Sonny had a hit with it in England but I never heard it. In
central Florida, where I grew up, the Dave Dudley version was on the
radio about 1967. Does anyone have or know where to get or hear
Sonny's own version.
Thanks, Mike
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 15:17:53 -0000
From: Ken Silverwood
Subject: Re: Tunesmith - Jimmy Webb CD
My golly! That's some track listing. I got an 18 track on Debutante
a few years ago. Among those not on your CD:
Still Within The Sound Of My Voice - Linda Ronstadt
It's A Sin (When You Love Somebody) - Joe Cocker
Someone Is Standing Outside - Thelma Houston
Didn't We - Jimmy Webb
And the magnificent If This Were The Last Song - (Brother) Bill Medley
Kenny Boy
(Your words are appreciated)
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 16:59:44 +0000
From: Phil Milstein
Subject: Re: USA No 1s which were UK chart failures
Mike Edwards wrote:
> But then you can extend your argument and wonder why the above
> consistent US hit makers made so little impact on the UK charts.
> Their total haul of UK hits were: Marvelettes (1), Gary Lewis & The
> Playboys (1 in 1975), Association (1), Buckinghams (0), Tommy James
> & The Shondells (2). Add to that: Paul Revere & The Raiders (0),
> Jay & The Americans (0), Tokens (1), American Breed (1) and the
> Young Rascals (2).
I wonder how much this phenomenon might owe to the English penchant
for attempting to cover, via homegrown talent, American releases prior
to their hitting big in Britain, in the hope of gaining the "winning"
version. (And yes, I know this strategy went both ways, but in the
period we're talking about I think it was mostly British covers of
American releases.)
The strategy could lead to some very amusing results, as British
producers were often left having to take their best guess at what
American records were liable to become British hits, and thus worth
their coveration efforts. My favorite example is Joe Meek's cover,
using The Charades, of Ginny Arnell's bizarre "Dumb Head."
--Phil M.
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 22:03:42 -0000
From: Rob Stride
Subject: Re: USA No 1s which were UK chart failures
Tony Leong:
> The biggest US #1 that was a UK flop that I know of was Lulu's
> "To Sir With Love"!! Even the movie was a flop in the UK!!!!!!
You're right about "To Sir With Love". I thought it was a hit as I
know it so well from the radio which really gave it loads of play
at the time.
Rob
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 17:49:53 EST
From: Mike Rashkow
Subject: Re: USA No 1s which were UK chart failures
Tony Leong:
> The biggest US #1 that was a UK flop that I know of was Lulu's "To
> Sir With Love"!! Even the movie was a flop in the UK!!!!!!
Michael Fishberg:
> I'm sure this cannot be right. What is the source of this info? On
> which chart(s) is/are the data based?
Now, now boys---no fighting. Play nice.
Di la
Rashkovsky
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Admin Note:
Tony knows his stuff and is correct, Lulu's "To Sir With Love" was
not a hit in the U.K. In fact, it was released as a B-side. The A-
side, "Let's Pretend", was a hit. So there.
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 16:34:48 +0000
From: Phil Milstein
Subject: Re: USA No 1s which were UK chart failures
Bob Rashkow wrote:
> That "Sound of Silence" didn't chart at all in the UK
> DOES surprise me!
Especially since S & G were camped out (albeit separately)
in England at the time the song broke in the U.S.
By the way I have heard varying versions of which Columbia
producer was responsible for electrifying Sounds Of Silence.
Anyone have any inside info on this issue?
--Phil M.
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