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Spectropop - Digest Number 1151
- From: Spectropop Group
- Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003
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SPECTROPOP - Spectacular! Retro! Pop!
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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Simultaneous No.1s
From: Mike McKay
2. Re: Sounds Of Silence / Tom Wilson
From: Mike McKay
3. Beverley Sisters; Al Brown(e); Ray Bryant; one-hit wonders/disco; trivia quiz; Richard Snow
From: Country Paul
4. Re: Sounds of Silence / Tom Wilson
From: Clark Besch
5. Re: Me About You
From: Patrick Beckers
6. Re: The first song to use a synthesizer
From: James Botticelli
7. Re: Tom Wilson / Sound Of Silence
From: Stewart Mason
8. Bewitched
From: Simon White
9. Re: Jimmy Webb CD
From: Richard Havers
10. Re: The first song to use a synthesizer
From: Richard Havers
11. Re: Giant Sunflower and such groups
From: Stephane Rebeschini
12. Britsh Invasion redux
From: Bill Craig
13. Re: White Soul / Joss Stone
From: Artie Wayne
14. Re: The first song to use a synthesizer
From: Phil Milstein
15. Gazette label
From: David Gordon
16. Re: Seasons In The Sun
From: Mike McKay
17. Rainy Day label
From: Davidl Gordon
18. Re: Tom Wilson
From: Bob Rashkow
19. R. I. P. David Hemmings
From: Country Paul
20. Obscurities; Yom Kippur music
From: Bob Rashkow
21. Re: USA No 1s which were UK chart failures
From: Bob Rashkow
22. Re: Midnight Cryin' Time / Faux Shangs / Mickey Lee Lane
From: Mick Patrick
23. Re: Cincinnati
From: Ruby
24. Re: House Of The Rising Sun
From: Ruby
25. Re: Cincinnati
From: John Fox
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 23:51:51 EST
From: Mike McKay
Subject: Simultaneous No.1s
Peter McDonnell wrote:
> I think I heard that the first single to be number one in both
> countries simultaneously was "Get Off Of My Cloud". I have no way
> of knowing if that's erroneous. Anybody?
I replied:
> I don't have a reference work at hand, but that hardly seems
> possible. Without looking, my candidate would be "Can't Buy Me
> Love". Prior to this, there was a lag in the opening months of
> 1964 as the U.S. "caught up" with older Beatles releases ("I Want
> To Hold Your Hand" had come out in late fall of 1963 in the UK).
> "Can't Buy Me Love" would have been the first instance of the UK
> and US waiting as one for a truly "new" Beatles release to come
> out and shoot to the top of both charts.
>
> If no one else beats me to it, I'll try to verify this hypothesis
> later today. (I do know that for a long time, "Can't Buy Me Love"
> held the record for advance orders for a single from record
> distributors.)
Obviously, I have way too much time on my hands. After some digging
through multiple reference works, I've determined that, while it's
true "Can't Buy Me Love" was #1 simultaneously in the US and UK, this
was not the first instance of this phenomenon.
The U.S. Billboard Hot 100 chart was published every Saturday, while
the UK NME chart was published each Friday. On Saturday, November 26,
1956, "Sixteen Tons" by "Tennessee" Ernie Ford began an 8-week stint
at the top of the charts in the U.S. On Friday, January 20, 1957, the
same song reached #1 in the UK.
With the publication of the new Billboard Hot 100 the next day,
"Sixteen Tons" fell out of the #1 spot in the US. But this means that
for one glorious day, the song was indeed #1 in both countries!
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 01:03:16 EST
From: Mike McKay
Subject: Re: Sounds Of Silence / Tom Wilson
Alan V. Karr wrote:
> Question for all: Are the VU the electric backing on "The Sound
> of Silence" and possibly other "Sounds of Silence" LP era tracks?
No...if this were so, it certainly would have been documented. The
story I've heard most frequently is that the electric backing was
added to "The Sounds of Silence" at the same session and by the same
musicians who had just backed Bob Dylan on "Like a Rolling Stone."
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 02:05:30 -0500
From: Country Paul
Subject: Beverley Sisters; Al Brown(e); Ray Bryant; one-hit wonders/disco; trivia quiz; Richard Snow
RIP, Teddy Randazzo. Many others have commented; I'll leave it there,
except to say thanks for the many musica posts.
That Alan Gordon:
> Didn't the Chuckles have that great record "Blanche"?
That was the Three Friends on Lido; the Three Chuckles' "Runaround"
(on RCA subsidiary "X") was later covered by the Fleetwoods.
(Coincidentally, I have both the "Three's" on 78!)
Dave Heasman wrote:
> HMV has nothing but: BEVERLEY SISTERS The Very Best Of £5.99 As you
> can see, they're largely covers of early 50s just pre-rock n roll
> songs.
Ian Chapman:
> Yes, except for "Long Black Nylons", which is an out-and-out rock
> 'n' roll raver, sung to the tune of "Clementine". Has one of
> wildest 50s manic sax breaks y'ever heard.
I vaguely remember the pic on the S'pop home page, but of course
didn't pay major attention to it beyond curiosity. Is it in the
archives?
Art Longmire:
> I have two questions regarding the other version of "Madison Time"
> by Al Brown's Tunetoppers (which I have never heard) - is it as
> good as Ray Bryant's version? And which version came first?
Art, the Al Brown song (on Amy - Part 1 and Part 2) was the big hit;
smooth groove in the verse, a shout chorus with instructions on how
to do the Madison to pick things up. (Brown, also spelled Browne,
was a major 50's r&b/doowop arranger, band leader and producer in New
York. High among his accomplishments is "Lullabye of the Bells" by
the Deltairs on Ivy. I seem to remember a recent article on him in
either Goldmine or Discoveries.) I don't remember the Ray Bryant
track; he was a jazz pianist, and I think it may have been a different
composition. He had a really cool jazz instrumental hit, "Little
Susie" (on Signature) prior to signing with Columbia in the 60's.
Bob Rashkow:
> Who originally did "A Change is Gonna Come"?
Are you referring to the hit Sam Cooke wrote and sang the early '60's?
Stewart Mason, responding to Steve Harvey:
> ...etc. etc. Nope, there were never any one-hit wonders, faceless
> studio bands hiding behind catchy names, or producer-driven artists
> before the big bad disco era. And as I'm sure everyone here can
> attest, there certainly were NEVER any unscrupulous or cynical
> actions on the part of record companies before 1976, right???
Stewart, I might suggest you're being a bit hard on Steve. Of course
there were, but I think disco was as much or even more a "producer's
medium" than much of what came before. In addition, there certainly
hadn't been nearly as many of what Frank Zappa called "cocaine
decisions" made prior to said era, which made an already irrational
industry even moreso. (Personally, I'm rather glad I sat disco out.
Beat on me for my opinion if you wish; it isn't racist or sexist, it's
"tastist." Having said that, of course there were some good disco
records - Don Charles cites "Rock Your Baby," and my personal fave is
Patrick Hernandez's "Born to Be Alive." But personally I had to get
through a lot of "pssh-shoomp' pssh-shoomp' pssh-shoomp'" to find
those.)
And yes, Stewart, a few of your "one hit wonders" did indeed have pre-
and post-hit careers. Mickey Baker, of Mickey and Sylvia, was a
distinguished guitarist and teacher (the famous Mickey Baker Guitar
Book); Sylvia Robinson had Sugar Hill and a whole other life in disco.
The Penguins had other west coast r&b hits, and even Vito Picone of
the Elegants had some regional successes and a career playing clubs for
quite a while.
Incidentally, here's a trivia quiz - name three #1 US hits whose
artists never again made the national charts. Answer at the end of this
post.
Cameo-Parkway to be reissued? Anyone with additional real news (not just
rumors or dreams) please keep us posted.
Clark Besch, thanks for the research on White Whale and April & Nino.
If musica ever has room, I'd certainly be interested in hearing what
they did at Bell.
Michael "Nanker Phelge," nice treatise on how you heard the Beatles;
thank you for the thoughtful insight. In trying to stay current with
contemporary rock and pop, I too know I'm hearing the songs and artists
but I don't know what they mean to the generation that's making them -
are they credible artists, record company puppets, posers, dabblers,
etc.? No one specific in mind. And Don Charles, I don't think all music
is going to hell since the 90's. Radio and "radio music,' yes; but there
are some amazing artists recording self-distributed material and selling
it off the bandstand because the major labels seem to no longer be able
or willing to allow an artist to evolve and grow a style and a catalog.
Speaking of self-distribution, Richard Hattersley, I just clicked on
your website and have been enjoying your music. If you haven't done so
yet, folks, may I suggest going to http://www.wiz.to/richardsnow/ and
listening to "The Sweetest" and "Coming Soon." He IS making 'em kinda
like they used to.
Trivia quiz answers: Okay, one and probably two had a reason for being
one-shots - they were ghastly: SSgt. Barry Sadler's political screed
"Ballad of the Green Berets" and The Singing Nun's "Dominique." The
third: the Elegants had several more 45's after "Little Star," but never
again charted nationally. (One follow-up, "Goodnight," was a small hit
in New York, in Providence, RI, and possibly other markets as well.)
And speaking of "Goodnight," more later....
Country Paul
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 05:43:28 -0000
From: Clark Besch
Subject: Re: Sounds of Silence / Tom Wilson
Artie Wayne wrote:
> ...By the time I was able to go to London.......Paul (Simon) had
> left a note for me with his UK sub-publisher saying that he had
> to rush back to the states to promote "Sounds of Silence" which
> was becoming a hit!!
Artie, Hope you are well! Great story. Hopefully, you can hear
the interview bit I posted to Musica. Paul says he picked up a
trade mag and saw "Sounds of Silence" was #84 in US and was
surprised. A chart check shows it was never #84, but hit the Hot
100 on Nov. 20, 1965 then moving to 65, 34, 26, 16, 05 and #1 on Jan
1 before getting knocked off by "We Can Work it Out". I just
checked and DAMN, it first charted on Cashbox same week at #84!!!
Paul you had a great memory!! Even tho at time of interview, he
only had to remember it for 2 months, I guess. Anyway, Artie,
being the private eye that I am (ha ha), that puts your missed trip
and measles around November 65. Whatever that means....:)
Clark
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 07:54:00 +0100
From: Patrick Beckers
Subject: Re: Me About You
Country Paul wrote:
> Bonner & Gordon & Jacobs' "Me About You" on musica is a delicious
> treat! Reminds me of Jake [Jacobs] and the Family Jewels version of
> "Maybe" - same reggae feel. But my favorite version of this remains
> Garry Bonner's solo on Columbia. Anyone capable of playing it to
> musica?
As soon as there is some room at Musica, I can and will!
Patrick Beckers
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 05:17:08 -0500
From: James Botticelli
Subject: Re: The first song to use a synthesizer
Mike Rashkow wrote:
> I have previously laid claim to have been the first (working
> along with the notorious Ms. Eleanor Greenwich) to use a Moog
> Synthesizer on a contemporary record; the Fuzzy Bunnies' "No
> Good To Cry". It was Decca 732537 (7-121,271) if anyone wants
> to date it.
Is that the same rekkid done by the Wildweeds and then Jimmy James
& The Vagabonds? Great rekkid.
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 00:33:21 -0800 (PST)
From: Stewart Mason
Subject: Re: Tom Wilson / Sound Of Silence
Alan V. Karr asks:
> Question for all: Are the VU the electric backing on "The Sound
> of Silence" and possibly other "Sounds of Silence" LP era tracks?
No chance at all. The electrified "The Sounds of Silence" was
apparently recorded in June 1965, when the Velvet Underground was
still in its infancy -- I don't know if Maureen Tucker had even
replaced their tabla-playing original drummer Angus MacLise yet! --
and supposedly features the same musicians who played on Dylan's
HIGHWAY 61 REVISITED. I don't know if I believe that, just as I
don't know if I believe another anecdote I've heard about the
recording: just before the first live performance of the song with a
full backing band, Paul Simon went up to the electric guitarist
Columbia had hired for the gig (I've forgotten who it supposedly was)
and said, "Listen, there's this lick that the guitarist on the
record played, I want to show it to you..."
"I know the lick, Paul."
"No, see, he did this one thing here on the record..."
"Paul...I played on the record."
"Oh. Well, all right then. Good lick."
Like I said, I don't buy it, but it's a great story.
S
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 11:29:17 +0000
From: Simon White
Subject: Bewitched
> Peggy Lee did a good rendition of the Bewitched theme song years ago.
> I have it, and it is worth looking for.
Funny, but I was looking at the show's credits the other day. There is
no vocal version on the shows titles and I don't ever remember hearing
one - but I'd love to hear Peggy's.
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 11:21:55 +0000
From: Richard Havers
Subject: Re: Jimmy Webb CD
Bill George wrote:
> Looks like a great collection! Too bad it doesn't include one of
> my favorite Webb songs, If These Walls Could Speak. Amy Grant
> does the best version I've heard.
It's a good song Bill. i like the Nanci Griffiths version, or Jimmy's
take on it from 'Ten Easy Pieces'.
Richard
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 12:15:36 +0000
From: Richard Havers
Subject: Re: The first song to use a synthesizer
Mike Rashkow wrote:
> Well, yes. I have previously laid claim to have been the first
> (working along with the notorious Ms. Eleanor Greenwich) to use a
> Moog Synthesizer on a contemporary record; the Fuzzy Bunnies' "No
> Good To Cry". It was Decca 732537 (7-121,271) if anyone wants to
> date it.
Not sure what the 'first' pop or rock record was to use a moog, but
the first model was built in 1964. Early synthesiser users were Paul
Beaver and Bernie Krause. They had a record out on Nonsuch in 1967
(The Nonsuch guide to electronic music). They had bought a moog in
1966 and set up a stall at the Monterey Pop Festival to try and excite
some potential customers, the Byrds were one of the first to show an
interest. The Byrds played the second day of Monterey (June17). Four
days later they were in the studio with Gary Usher recording 'Old John
Robertson', which I'm pretty sure has no moog. On August 16 they cut
the brilliant 'Tribal Gathering' (no moog) and 'Dolphin's Smile' which
i'd wager had moog on the opening section. Two months later they did
'Moog Raga', which didn't make the album and at the end of November
'Natural Harmony' which also has moog. 'The Notorious Byrd Brothers'
came out in early 1968.
Beaver and Krause did an interesting album in 1971 called Gandharva,
which was mostly recorded live at Grace Cathedral in San Francisco.
The Fuzzy Bunnies was 1969 I think.
Richard
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 13:26:20 +0100
From: Stephane Rebeschini
Subject: Re: Giant Sunflower and such groups
Mark T a écrit:
> Anyone have info on this male/female group [Charlotte Russe]
> with 2 excellent singles on Philips? Or for that matter,
> Giant Sunflower (Ode), Society's Children (Atco), Golden Bough
> (A&M), or The Underground (Mainstream). There's nowhere to find
> out about this unknown, non-charted groups that they put out
> some excellent singles and then disappeared.
Hi, You can find some info on Giant Sunflower (Ode), Society's
Children (Atco) and The Underground (Mainstream) here:
http://www.borderlinebooks.com/us6070s/fuzz.html
Have a nice day,
Stephane
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 13:35:57 -0000
From: Bill Craig
Subject: Britsh Invasion redux
Did anyone catch the latest PBS fundraising special that featured
Gerry Marsden and a version of Manfred Mann called The Manfreds that
included 3 out of 5 of the original members (no Manfred Mann or Mike
Vickers)? This Manfred group has got Paul Jones and Mike D'abo and
has Mike Hugg playing keyboards instead of drums. For all that they
only showed them doing "Do Wa Diddy" which sounded fine if not
spectacular. Paul Jones looks great and you got the feeling this
lineup is capable of doing some cool stuff but this was a venue that
was only going to allow them the chance to play their best known hit.
Gerry sounded great with a full backing group that played all the
string arrangements plus brass on "Don't Let The Sun..." and "Ferry
Cross.."
Check it out if you have the chance.
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 05:27:14 -0800 (PST)
From: Artie Wayne
Subject: Re: White Soul / Joss Stone
Mick Patrick:
> But that was last week. I have a new favourite now and her name
> is Joss Stone, a 16-year-old from Devon with the voice of an
> angel. I kid you not, her debut CD is a contender for the best
> blue-eyed soul album of all time. Produced, in the main, by Betty
> Wright at Criteria Studios in Miami and The Hit Factory in New
> York, "The Soul Sessions" is just out on Relentless (CDREL 2).
> Sweet baby Jesus, you should hear her version of Carla Thomas's
> "I've Fallen In Love With You", complete with full string section.
> Musicians include Little Beaver, Latimore and Timmy Thomas. Real
> soul music is alive and well. Thank god. I hear Joss is no mean
> songwriter either and is already at work on her follow-up, set to
> comprise all original songs. Can't wait.
Mick........How ya' doin'? I totally agree with you about Joss Stone
......She's amazing!!! It's only a matter of time before she becomes
a world wide star....and I just happen to have a song for her!!
regards, Artie Wayne
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 10:10:33 +0000
From: Phil Milstein
Subject: Re: The first song to use a synthesizer
Mike Rashkow wrote:
> Well, yes. I have previously laid claim to have been the first
> (working along with the notorious Ms. Eleanor Greenwich) to use a
> Moog Synthesizer on a contemporary record; the Fuzzy Bunnies' "No
> Good To Cry". It was Decca 732537 (7-121,271) if anyone wants to
> date it.
The Al Anderson/Wildweeds song?
Curious what the Decca suits might've made of that. Were they scared
of the "new thing"?
Also, have any good Jean Shepherd stories?
--Phil M.
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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 16:03:22 -0000
From: David Gordon
Subject: Gazette label
GAZETTE dist. Columbia
8000
LOCK, STOCK AND BARREL
1970
Daydreams
Happy People
8001
LIGHT
1970
Buena Vista (W Bailey,B Grimes,B Peters)
?
Prod : Bob Gaudio
8002
LUX
1970
When I'm Gone (W Bailey)
?
8003
LOCK, STOCK AND BARREL
1970
Number 1 Momma (R Jiminez,P Martone,S Viscuso,T Scorsone)
All Because Of You (P Martone)
Prod : Bob Gaudio and Mike Petrillo
Light and Lux may well be the same group given that "Lux" is Latin
for "Light" - maybe they had to change there name. There was a West
Coast group called The Light on A&M in '67.
Davie Gordon
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Message: 16
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 09:31:23 EST
From: Mike McKay
Subject: Re: Seasons In The Sun
Andrew Jones wrote:
> Terry Jacks probably did write the last verse of his version -
> in the Brel/McKuen original, that last verse is about a cheating
> wife, and would NOT have fit Terry's recording.
Yes, Rod acknowledges that Jacks took his last verse of "Seasons in
the Sun," changed the name from "Francoise" to "Michelle," and added
(in his words) some "doggerel" about "finding the sun."
McKuen's complete take on both the "Seasons in the Sun" and "Rock Me
Gently" thefts is here (about 2/3 of the way down the page):
http://www.mckuen.com/flights/210601.htm
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Message: 17
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 16:01:23 -0000
From: Davidl Gordon
Subject: Rainy Day label
RAINY DAY distributed by Jubilee
45-8002
CHIP TAYLOR
08/67
You Should Be From Monterey
?
Prod :
[this actually charted on KEXO,Colorado according a
survey I found some time ago at the BroadcastAirchecks
Yahoo group - maybe the only station to chart a Rainy
Day release ]
45-8003
HARRY'S GROUP
Under My Umbrella (Chip Taylor,Billy Vera)
Old Man Trouble (Chip Taylor,Billy Vera)
Prod : Chip Taylor,Billy Vera,Al Gorgoni
45-8004
ALICE CLARK
1968
You Got A Deal (Billy Vera)
Say You'll Never (Never Leave Me) (Billy Vera)
Prod : Billy Vera
(UK issue = Action ACT4520, 03 /69)
cd : both on "Got A Good Thing Going" (Sequel NEMCD785)
45-8005
THE M.S.Q.
06/68
Save A Place For Me (Billy Vera ..)
Gee Baby (Billy Vera ..)
Prod : Billy Vera
45-8006
KATHY McCORD
1968
I'll Give My Heart To You (Chip Taylor)
I'll Never Be Alone Again (Chip Taylor,Al Gorgoni)
Prod / Arr : Chip Taylor
45-8007
JEANNE FOX
Working Girl (Chip Taylor)
?
Prod : Chip Taylor,Al Gorgoni
Kathy McCord? Hmmmm, Billy Vera's real name is William McCord so
it looks pretty certain that Kathy was related to him - sister ?
wife ?
There's another Kathy McCord single on CTI 502
Take Away This Pain (Kathy McCord)
?
Prod : Creed Taylor
Billy Vera wrote the booklet for the "Got A Good Thing Going" CD
from which ... "Perhaps as a result of being hot with Judy Clay's
and my record of "Storybook Children" people were approaching me to
do things. One day the Crystals' manager brought me this singer,
Alice, from Brooklyn. I wrote the tunes for her. My friend, Chip
Taylor, had a label deal with Jubilee and wanted me to make some R&B
records for him. The record did nothing at the time but, I am told,
became famous as a "Northern Soul Classic" in England, bootlegged
like crazy. This is thge first time I will see a dime from it. I lost
track of Alice and heard she fell ino the clutches of Bob Shad at
mainstream at one point."
Billy's quite right - there's a 1973 "Alice Clark" album on
Mainstream which just happens to include a version of Jim Webb's "I
Keep It Hid"
So there's yet another record which ties together three recent
threads - and has a connection the Crystals!
Davie Gordon
PS - wonder if the MSQ means "Modern Soul Quartet" - a nod to the
MJQ / MFQ?
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Message: 18
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 11:37:45 EST
From: Bob Rashkow
Subject: Re: Tom Wilson
IMHO very few LP kickoff gimmicks beat Tom Wilson's own recitation
at the start of the Beacon Street Union's first astonishing LP.
The way it segues into "My Love Is"....oooohhhhh! I would've voted
for him.
Bobster
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Message: 19
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 12:12:59 -0500
From: Country Paul
Subject: R. I. P. David Hemmings
Late news from AP:
"David Hemmings, the British actor who starred in the 1966 film
"Blow Up," has died while filming a movie in Romania. He was 62.
"Hemmings died Wednesday after paramedics on the film set of
"Samantha's Child" were unable to revive him, his agent, Liz
Nelson, said."
Full story at:
http://kevxml2a.verizon.net/_1_2WVNTO10IZ86HG__vzn.isp/apnws/story.htm?kcfg=apart&sin=D7V7LDNG0&qcat=entertain&ran=1476&passqi=&feed=ap&top=1
(if the link won't click through, make sure the entire URL is one one
line).
And the swingin' '60's are swingin' a bit less - again.
Country Paul
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Message: 20
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 12:09:33 EST
From: Bob Rashkow
Subject: Obscurities; Yom Kippur music
Mark asked about these awesome groups including Society's Children,
Giant Sunflower and Underground. I'm reasonably sure that if you
go to borderlinebooks.com you can get, at the very least, a minimal
amount of information from online Fuzz, Acid & Flowers if it's still
available. That's one of the most extensively researched books
attempting to cover all the little-known as well as the well-known
pop and rock groups of the US from approx. 1965 to 1972.
My own Jewish background enables me to appreciate recordings such as
The Electric Prunes' "Release of an Oath", their own LP based on the
Yom Kippur service, at least the Kol Nidray atonement prayer. Kol
Nidray evening is a very heavy, very serious time for me, and Procol
Harum's early music, intentionally or not, serves as a perfect
background for the somber mood, particularly "Repent Walpurgis."
That much aside Procol Harum is one of my favorite "progressive"
bands from here or the UK.
Bobster
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Message: 21
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 11:30:47 EST
From: Bob Rashkow
Subject: Re: USA No 1s which were UK chart failures
Paul Bryant (referring to failure of records like "Windy" and "Crimson
and Clover" in UK):
> ...why would these singles be considered "too American"?
I honestly can't answer that! But it's a great question. Why did the
Move's wonderfully sentimental "Blackberry Way" top the charts in
England and go nowhere here? Rupert's People "Reflections of Charles
Brown", another great but utterly downbeat recording. Top 20 (or
possibly Top 10, don't recall) in UK and no response whatsoever here,
or at least nobody could move or back the damn thing. This British
treasure was left for me to discover as recently as 2001! Now I won't
go so far as to generalize that Brit radio listeners prefer sad music
(look at the success, at around the same time, here of records like
Bobby Goldsboro's "Honey" and even Britain's own late Richard Harris'
"MacArthur Park", not to mention the intriguing but ultimately
downbeat "Ode to Billie Joe" a year earlier!) but I think there MAY be
something to the idea that certain hits here are too "native" sounding
(Raiders? Jay Black? Buckinghams?) for the British DJs' palates and
vice versa. As Rashkovsky suggested a few messages ago, let's not go
to war about it. I personally think the UK output circa '66-'69 has
"US" well beat, but that doesn't stop me from turning up the radio
when Tommy James or the Association, etc. comes on.
Bobster
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Message: 22
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 21:11:11 -0000
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Re: Midnight Cryin' Time / Faux Shangs / Mickey Lee Lane
The S'pop Team:
> Budget conscious S'poppers might already be aware of the great
> value for money offered by the Castle Pulse logo's themed 3 CD
> sets. Their latest release, subtitled "Teen Angst Classics From
> The Rock 'n' Roll Era", is the latest addition to the S'pop
> Recommends section. Mike Edwards is your reviewer:
> http://www.spectropop.com/recommends/index2003.htm#MidnightCryinTime
Keep your eyes peeled come sale time 'coz the HMV Shop tends to
knock these great Pulse sets down to under a fiver, presumably as
some sort of loss leader. As if the weren't cheap enough already!
One of the best tracks I discovered on "Midnight Cryin' Time" is
Mickey Lee Lane's "She Cried To Me", from the Swan label c. 1965.
It's an eerie male Shangri-Las type disc of the first order. Very
me.
Hey la,
Mick Patrick
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Message: 23
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 17:41:02 -0000
From: Ruby
Subject: Re: Cincinnati
Bootsy Collins' older brother is Catfish (what did they do to their
mother to deserve these names). Both Bootsy and Catfish played with
James Brown on parts of the live "Sex Machine" album. Bootsy and
Catfish are also cousins to James Brown's Funky Diva Lyn "The Female
Preacher" Collins, who brought us "Think" "You Can't Love Me If You
Don't Respect Me" "Give It Up Or Turn It Loose" and "Mama Feelgood."
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Message: 24
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 17:48:31 -0000
From: Ruby
Subject: Re: House Of The Rising Sun
The history of House of the Rising Sun is interesting. Alan Lomax
found a girl named Georgia Turner singing it in Middlesboro, KY in
1937 and recorded it as a part of a WPA project. The AP did a
wonderful story about it, and documented it in a website at:
http://customwire.ap.org/specials/interactives/rising_sun/american_tune.html
Hopefully the link works.
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Message: 25
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 13:08:22 EST
From: John Fox
Subject: Re: Cincinnati
Cincy cingers: Wasn't Rosemary Clooney from there, also? Maysville,
Kentucky actually (about 60 miles up river). Her brother, Nick
(George's father), is actually going to run for congress from that
district next year.
John Fox
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