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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Sock It To Me Time: Strawberry Alarm Clock on "Laugh-In"
From: Craig Davison
2. Re: "Kinda Wasted Without You" lyrics
From: csasml2007
3. Re: Hi, I'm new to this group and.........
From: baseboy65
4. Re: Non-Beatles Apple Reissues
From: David Coyle
5. Re: Del Shannon
From: S.J. Dibai
6. Re: Apple reissues
From: Leslie Fradkin
7. Re: You Didn't Have To Be So Nice
From: Steve Harvey
8. The Stuff That Dreams Are Made Of
From: Chris Schneider
9. Re: Go Back by Crabby Appleton
From: David Coyle
10. Re: whose songs got the Mrs. Miller treatment?
From: steveo
11. Re: Welcome; more Sally; strange and "inept" records; The Innocents; David's BBoys instrumental
From: TD
12. Re: Hootspa/Chutzpah Jon Brion
From: Peter Kearns
13. Re: "This Diamond Ring"
From: Austin Roberts
14. Re: "At Last"
From: steveo
15. Re: 40 years of Navy Blue
From: Ed Rambeau
16. Re: Spine-Tingling Shangri-Las
From: David Coyle
17. Re: Collecting records / Dick Clark Productions / music on TV
From: Phil Milstein
18. Female record collectors
From: Doc Rock
19. Re: Lloyd T
From: mssdusty
20. Ben Findon
From: Mark Frumento
21. Re: You Didn't Have To Be So Nice
From: C. Ponti
22. Re: "At Last"
From: Mike Rashkow
23. Re: Blues Project / Dylan on Wilson
From: Javed Jafri
24. Re: Eddie Rambeau/I'm The Sky
From: Mike McKay
25. Al Kooper's website
From: Mark Frumento
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 14:13:25 -0000
From: Craig Davison
Subject: Re: Sock It To Me Time: Strawberry Alarm Clock on "Laugh-In"
Previously:
> For years I thought that I only imagined seeing the Strawberry
> Alarm Clock on "Laugh In" because whenever I mentioned this to
> anyone I always got a reply that" Laugh In" never had pop groups
> appear on the program. I especially thought that maybe I was
> confused when I purchased the Complete Monkees TV series box set
> and watched as Frank Zappa appeared on one episode called "Monkees
> Blow Their Mind" in the pre-show segment in which Mike Nesmith
> teaches Frank how to play a car to the tune of the Mothers Of
> Invention's "Mother People."
And let's not forget that The Monkees (well, the 3 that were left)
also appeared on Laugh-In! In fact, they were probably part of the
longest skit in that show's history (at least per my memory!) Had
something to do with traveling salesmen as I recall.
...anyone else remember this?
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 11:36:05 -0000
From: csasml2007
Subject: Re: "Kinda Wasted Without You" lyrics
Guille Milkyway wrote:
> I'm desperately looking for some parts of the lyrics of
> this Smokey Roberds/Roger Nichols song "Kinda Wasted Without You"
Hello Guille,
Here is the complete lyrics that appears in the booklet of
Roger Nichols & Small Circle of Friends.
One fell swoop and you could be
Looking into my eyes
Tell me now tell me how
You stepped in and confused me
I thought i was so wise
Tell me now tell me how
You have opened up for me
It's in my mind so lovingly
Oh my heart's falling free
You might say i've been
Kinda wasted without you
Kinda wasted without you
Love's been true when you touched me
Your fingers through my hair
Tell me now tell me how
Like a flower you brushed me
With tender loving care
Tell me now tell me how
Every moment is in two
I feel it moving around the room
Oh it's gotta happen soon
Imagine the moon
Kinda wasted without you
Kinda wasted without you
Tick tock clock on the wall
Are you the milkman out in the hall
And all the time we've been talking
Let's take a walk and just keep talking
You rushed right into my dream
You fit right into the skin
You now you know what i mean
Kinda wasted without you
Kinda wasted without you
Kinda wasted without you
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 23:24:04 -0000
From: baseboy65
Subject: Re: Hi, I'm new to this group and.........
MusicNutwrote:
> Betsy (Betty)Brye released a single on Canadian-American
> in 1959 of "Sleepwalk", with lyrics. I haven't been able
> to physically look at this single and I need to know who
> wrote the lyrics for this famous tune? I have some
> contradictory info about the writer(s), but I will go by
> what the label says.
The label credits Farina-Farina-Farina-Don Wolf.
Jeff Lemlich
http://www.limestonerecords.com
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 15:44:22 -0800 (PST)
From: David Coyle
Subject: Re: Non-Beatles Apple Reissues
Two other Apple-related CDs that came out on Capitol
around the same time were Jackie Lomax's "Is This What
You Want?" (which included George Harrison's "Sour
Milk Sea," I think) and Mary Hopkins's "Postcard"
(which included Paul McCartney's "Goodbye").
I think there may have been some sort of CD version of
the Apple Sampler from 1969, which originally included
the first four non-Beatles singles to come out on the
label, including the aforementioned tracks, plus
"Thingumybob" by the Black Dyke Mills Band (also a
McCartney composition, an instrumental).
David
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 23:12:42 -0000
From: S.J. Dibai
Subject: Re: Del Shannon
hiloth2002 wrote:
> Can anyone help on this one? I recieved a disc in trade a while
> back. Marked "Home and Away" 1967 Del Shannon, Finally got around to
> listening to it and was much surprised. Great Stuff. Can anyone tell
> help with artwork, setlist and who produced this gem?
Michael,
Del recorded this stuff in London with Andrew Loog Oldham producing.
It was meant to be his first entry into the progressive pop sounds
of the '60s, but that didn't quite go as planned. One single was
released from it in the US ("Led Along"), which flopped, followed
by "Runaway '67" with overdubbed crowd noise, which did well
regionally and "Bubbled Under" the Hot 100. Still, the singles did
not do well enough for the album to get released in the US, and I
believe it went likewise unreleased worldwide. (In the UK, I think
there was only one single from it, but I've misplaced my Del Shannon
discography, so someone else might have to help here.)
Finally, this material came out in full in 1974, on the
Liberty/United Artists budget label Sunset, on an LP named "And The
Music Plays On." There were a couple of other tracks included there
besides the stuff from the Oldham sessions.
"And The Music Plays On" was reissued on CD with Del's live 1972
album by Beat Goes On Records a few years ago. For some reason, I
haven't gotten my hands on that yet, and damned if I can figure out
why!
As for the disc you have--I have no idea. Is it a test pressing? A
bootleg? Another legitimate release of this material that I don't
know of?
S.J. Dibai
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 16:14:36 -0700
From: Leslie Fradkin
Subject: Re: Apple reissues
Stewart Mason wrote:
> Yes, these came out through Capitol as part of the
> same mass lawsuit-settling that finally paved the way
> for the Beatles Anthology and the like. There were
> the Badfinger albums (if I recall correctly, ASS only
> came out in the UK and possibly Japan), the
> aforementioned Iveys record -- which is in fact a
> separate release from Badfinger's MAGIC CHRISTIAN
> MUSIC, contrary to the assertion of someone whom I
> don't remember, although of course the two albums have
> several songs in common -- along with the James Taylor
> album, the Billy Preston albums. I think that might
> have been it, actually. I assume they were simply
> withdrawn for lack of sales. I never heard of any
> other, more sinister, reasons, although it would not
> surprise me if it turned out that maybe 5000 copies of
> each was pressed to fulfill a contractual obligation,
> because I think the extent of the press I saw on them
> was a short blurb in ICE. I found the Iveys record
> for the first time in the remainder bins at Page One
> Books and Music in Albuquerque in 1996!
I have the Jackie Lomax Apple CD and the James Taylor CD.
I think these were part of the same re-issue program.
Les Fradkin
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 15:41:58 -0800 (PST)
From: Steve Harvey
Subject: Re: You Didn't Have To Be So Nice
C. Ponti wrote:
> Yes, Nala, Mr Harvey errs. The song sprouted from
> Steve SPEAKING the title phrase to John about a date
> with a girl he had only recently met. John took the
> phrase and, with input from Steven that was significant
> (but not of a majority), the song was written.
>
> Collaborations are difficult to credit in terms of what
> percentage one writer contributed. They grow organically
> ... like mold!
Mr. Ponti,
I did read somewhere that Boone wrote most of
the tune. If I can find it I'll let you know. It stood
out because I always thought of Sebastian as the Brian
Wilson of the Spoonful up till that point. It was a
collaboration, but I'm not so sure I agree that John
did the bulk of the tune.
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 16:11:22 -0800 (PST)
From: Chris Schneider
Subject: The Stuff That Dreams Are Made Of
Albabe wrote:
> And every nanosecond of "At Last" by Etta James. Accept no substitutions.
Rashkovsky wrote:
> Second that emotion! Who wrote those string parts?
One source lists Riley Hampton as arranger and conductor.
Does that mean he wrote the string parts, or would he have
farmed 'em out?
"I found a dream that I can speak to" (Mack Gordon)
There are so many of 'em, but how many can actually *converse*?
Chris
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 16:11:57 -0800 (PST)
From: David Coyle
Subject: Re: Go Back by Crabby Appleton
I remember looking through 45s at a record store in
Columbus, and being thrilled to find the single of "Go
Back." Having really discovered the song on "Buried
Treasure," I was thrilled at the prospect of having
the original record and checking out the b-side.
I got home and started listening to my purchases,
saving "Go Back" for last. Alas, I found out the hard
way that I had neglected to put the record in my stack
when I went up to pay for my records. Haven't been
able to find it since.
While I commend Collectors Choice for reissuing the
LPs, this is just another example of them reissuing
two LPs that would fit on one CD, and not even adding
any bonus tracks or other extras.
Crabby Appleton performing "Go Back" is the highlight
of the otherwise unwatchable "Something Else" hosted
by John Byner, and also featuring the Ides Of March
(okay), that kid from "H.R. Pufnstuf," and a bunch of
hula and bikini girls who seem way to interested in
Byner. I still can't believe that Crabby Appleton has
connections with the Millenium and the whole Curt
Boettcher camp...
David
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 16:53:27 -0800 (PST)
From: steveo
Subject: Re: whose songs got the Mrs. Miller treatment?
steveo wrote:
> I'm wondering if any of the writers on here were
> able to receive the Mrs. Miller treatment of their
> songs... P.S. I know I'm nuts.. but i liked her!
C. Ponti wrote:
> Much scarier is to have a song get the Michael
> Bolton treatment!
Mr. Ponti,
LOL!!!!!!
Steveo
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 20:03:22 -0500
From: TD
Subject: Re: Welcome; more Sally; strange and "inept" records; The Innocents; David's BBoys instrumental
Country Paul wrote:
> Speaking of Pittsburgh, do you or any member have
> Janet Deane's "Another Night Alone" available to
> post? This great ballad is the only lead I know by
> the late Janet Vogl of the Skyliners, and she smoulders!
I have an MP3 of Janet Vogel billed "Janet Deane". She
recorded "Another Night Alone"--Gateway Records (1963).
Please send directions to me on how to share this beautiful
recording. As you say, the song is a great ballad and
"smoulders".
She's the co-writer and 'top tenor' (adding to the
celebrated finalé of "Since I Don't Have You"). Janet
Vogel was not with The Skyliners when she recorded
"Another Night Alone". I have no idea how the rest of
the nation received the song when it was released. In
Pittsburgh, KQV'S TOP "50" TUNEDEX shows "Another Night
Alone" listed at #48 for the week of DECEMBER 28 - JANUARY
4, 1964 ... (and January '64 marks the start of Beatlemania
in the USA, and it's "twenty-two Beatle degrees outside our
KQV window, your Beatle station at the corner of Walk and
Don't Walk!") and this masterpiece from Janet Vogel got lost
in the pop music shuffle ... This recording is "unique" and
prized amongst 'connoisuers'--glad you mentioned it Country
Paul.
-- TD
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 01:14:10 -0000
From: Peter Kearns
Subject: Re: Hootspa/Chutzpah Jon Brion
Alan Gordon wrote:
> Before you mentioned it, I had no idea Brion had a solo album out.
> I've been looking all over San Francisco this weekend for it.
> Everyone says it's out of print... any ideas, sir?
You can purchase it straight from his site. Trust me, it's worth
every cent. :-) If you still can't get it, let me know.
http://www.jonbrion.com
Jon does a regular solo Friday gig at Largo in Hollywood and has done
for about 7 years. He has loads of exotic instruments onstage and
pretty much wings the whole night. He doesn't have a setlist and
basically rearranges his and other people's material on the spot.
Plus he's often joined by high profile guests of his ilk. I haven't
seen it yet, but it's a high priority when I return to LA in a couple
of months.
Cheers, Peter.
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 20:45:26 EST
From: Austin Roberts
Subject: Re: "This Diamond Ring"
Calm down Al. I'm old. At least I remembered he had something
to do with the song. How about an E for effort?
Austin Roberts
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 16:55:23 -0800 (PST)
From: steveo
Subject: Re: "At Last"
Chris Schneider wrote:
> I think the world of that song. Also of Etta James.
> You must admit, though, that composer Harry Warren and
> lyricist Mack Gordonhad a little bit to do with its
> creation ...
Yeah,
I think Glenn Miller had the first big hit on it!!!
Nice version...
Steveo
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 21:18:15 EST
From: Ed Rambeau
Subject: Re: 40 years of Navy Blue
Clark Besch wrote:
> PS. If you think "Navy Blue" had a battle, the followup, "Kiss Me
> Sailor", not only took on that second Beatles barrage of singles, but
> spent its first 2 weeks with "Navy Blue" still on the chart. It got
> to a great start going from #90, 77, 44, but then quickly slowed to
> 34, 30, 30, 29 (its peak). By the time it reached #34, there were
> Beatles at #1, 02 , 03 , 19, 24, 29, 37, 45, 60, and 67. Now even the
> DC5 were in the "multiples" act, with #6, 07 , and 90! I'd say "Kiss
> Me Sailor" did pretty well, all things considered!
Wow! You sure know your history of Navy Blue, Clark. But here's the real
scoop which you may or may not know. Navy Blue was written in about 10 minutes,
cause Bob Crewe needed a 4th song for Diane Renay's recording session. So we
threw it together and he ran downstairs to Atlantic Recording Studio and did
the session. The record came out a few days before Kennedy was assassinated
and, of course, the entire record business took a dip. Then it went through
Thanksgiving and XMas of that year. After the first of the year, a DJ in
Worcester, Mass. had a phone in response show and put Navy Blue on by mistake
(because it was the "B" side). Unbelievable Guy was supposed to be the "A" side.
Anyway, Navy Blue ended up getting the biggest phone response since Elvis
Presley's Blue Suede Shoes. The DJ wrote about this in the Gavin Report, and the
rest is history. But I'm so glad you enjoyed it all these years, Clark.
Needless to say, so did I ... but for other reasons. LOL.
Ed Rambeau
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 16:32:31 -0800 (PST)
From: David Coyle
Subject: Re: Spine-Tingling Shangri-Las
"I Can Never Go Home Anymore" is so full of
spine-tingling moments. A close second to Mary's cry
of anguish (I believe she really had to be coaxed to
rise to the level of emotion displayed on the song) is
the line "She got so lonely near the end, the angels
picked her for their friend."
If that song doesn't make a person miss their mother
or call her up, then that person doesn't have a heart.
Same for any of Hank Williams's mother songs like
"Mother Is Gone" or "I Dreamed About Mama Last Night."
Another Shangri-Las track that evokes a goose-bumpy
feeling is "Give Him A Great Big Kiss," particularly
when those handclaps come in as the girls sing "I'm
gonna walk right up to him ... give him a great big
kiss ... MWAH!" I think I could have really developed a
crush on the Shangri-Las had I been a teenage boy in
their time, hoping that those good-bad-but-not-evil
girls would seek me out, too ...
David
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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 21:56:42 -0500
From: Phil Milstein
Subject: Re: Collecting records / Dick Clark Productions / music on TV
Alun Hill wrote:
> ... So he adopted a new buying
> method, which was to buy fewer at a time and visit the store
> more often. "The secret of collecting," he said, "is to always
> have something to look forward to." I think he was afraid he
> would run out of things to collect.
It strikes me that the fella Alun's talking about has fallen over the
edge from hobby to neurosis. Where exactly that line is drawn may well
be impossible to quantify, but I think most of us know it when we see it.
Lapka Larry wrote:
> Interesting bits about performers having to buy their
> Bandstand performances. Was/is the same thing true for
> those who appeared on Where the Action Is and the
> other Dick Clark-produced rock/pop shows in the 1960s?
I believe the policy applies to all Dick Clark Productions. But note
that the price has come down considerably in recent years -- back in the
'80s I was part of a consortium that sponsored Roky Erickson's purchase
of 13th Floor Elevators appearances on Bandstand and Action, and the
price was a bit over $300 per clip. And they edited out some of the
interview portions!
Lou B. wrote:
> Thanks for bringing up the fact that "Laugh In" did try (for
> a moment at least) to incorporate pop music as part of their
> show's format.
While almost exclusively a comedy program, Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In did
occasionally incorporate existing music acts into their format. Most of
these acts were "funny" ones, on top of which the show's troupe would
march about improvising schtick and making mock of the musical talent.
As is well-documented, Laugh-In discovered Tiny Tim. Due to the
tremendous response to his first appearance, they had him back a number
of times. Following this success, they tried to get lightning to strike
again by introducing the world to Legendary Stardust Cowboy. Ledge
appeared once, playing live versions of both sides of his Mercury debut,
Paralyzed/Who's Knocking On My Door, propelling the latter into minor
hit status. Laugh-In also had The Holy Modal Rounders on, doing The
Yo-Yo Song.
Art Longmire wrote:
> I was a huge fan of Laugh-In as a kid, but unfortunately I was not a
> music fan during the early years that the show was on, so I have no
> recollections of musical acts that may have appeared there. The show
> I really remember having a lot of musical acts was the Smothers
> Brothers show-I recall seeing Donovan, Jennifer Warnes (just billed
> as "Jennifer" at the time) John Sebastian (I remember he did "Did You
> Ever Have To Make Up Your Mind") and of course the regulars like Glen
> Campbell, John Hartford, and Mason Williams, and also Steve Martin
> plucking his banjo. Those were the days!
The Smothers Brothers also had on The Cake, doing an unbelievable
version of You Can Have Him. The girls, dressed in gorgeous outfits and
wearing facepaint, lip-synced the number, which gave them the freedom to
play out a mesmerizing performance piece, with two of them engaged to
the point of boogalooing to the fast parts while the third member
appeared dazed 'n' confused and did virtually nothing. One of the most
memorable music-on-TV pieces I've ever seen!
--Phil M.
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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 20:56:12 -0500
From: Doc Rock
Subject: Female record collectors
Bobby Vee and I have discussed how 99% of his fans in
the old days were female. Now 99% are male!
As for me I just sold my 40-year record collection, all
10,000 records, to a female collector!
doc
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Message: 19
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 02:53:31 -0000
From: mssdusty
Subject: Re: Lloyd T
Any film short or long ... and on DVD would be great.
Mary
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Message: 20
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 02:57:39 -0000
From: Mark Frumento
Subject: Ben Findon
Does anyone have information on song writer Ben Findon? Over time
I've accumulated records bearing his name in the writing credits.
Most of what I have are well written harmony-based songs. Many of
those songs are by obscure UK bands but he did write (with Peter
Shelley) the wonderful "Impressions of Linda" for The Magic Lanterns.
I've searched the web and there is scattered information but it's
hard to piece together.
Mark Frumento
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Message: 21
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 03:31:35 -0000
From: C. Ponti
Subject: Re: You Didn't Have To Be So Nice
Steve Harvey wrote:
> I did read somewhere that Boone wrote most of
> the tune. If I can find it I'll let you know. It stood
> out because I always thought of Sebastian as the Brian
> Wilson of the Spoonful up till that point. It was a
> collaboration, but I'm not so sure I agree that John
> did the bulk of the tune.
Steve,
You gotta learn to trust! Now a song Stebun DID write solely is
"Forever" on EVERYTHING PLAYING. It is a gorgeous piece of work, too.
C. Ponti
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Message: 22
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 22:27:40 EST
From: Mike Rashkow
Subject: Re: "At Last"
Chris Schneider wrote:
> I think the world of that song. Also of Etta James. You must admit, though,
> that composer Harry Warren and lyricist Mack Gordon had a *little* bit to do
> with its creation ...
Jamesetta Hawkins could sing the telephone directory and it would sound fine.
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Message: 23
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 22:09:30 -0800
From: Javed Jafri
Subject: Re: Blues Project / Dylan on Wilson
J. Berg wrote:
> Non-Yehudi Tommy Flanders "solo" album is worth your listen --
> some very nice material, singing and playing (by a good set of
> session musicians). But another Jewish mother's son, David
> "Blue" Cohen, also arose during that same era and is perhaps
> even more worth your time exploring, being slightly prolific
> (at least for a time) ....
One of my very favorite Blues Project songs is Eric Anderson's "Violets of
Dawn" with lead vocals by Tommy Flanders. Tommy was originally billed as the
BP's lead singer, right Al?
Also, Mr. Kooper, I have to mention that I have long admired your work. The
first time I remember seeing your name is when I was 12 years old and you
got the spotlight in a Hit Parader magazine column called "My Favorite
Records". In it you raved about Pet Sounds. You also spoke a bit about Bob
Lind, and mentioned that in terms of artistic integrity he was one to watch
out for more so than Neil Diamond. The discussion at that point may have
been about the still current and popular folk-rock scene. Speaking of which,
I also recall reading that you were praising Pet Sounds to anyone who would
listen at the 1966 Newport Folk Festival. Did that include Bob Dylan? I
have always wondered what he thought about Brian Wilson's mid '60s output.
The only time I have read anything about his opinion is a late '80s
interview in Rolling Stone, where he says something to the effect that: The
Beach Boys were doing things that had not been done before and I know I
(meaning Mr. D) was doing things that had not been done before.
Javed
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Message: 24
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 23:31:21 EST
From: Mike McKay
Subject: Re: Eddie Rambeau/I'm The Sky
Michel Gignac wrote:
> Eddie, I will not ask you any question, because you are already
> overwhelmed by them! I'll just add that there are three of your
> recordings that I particularly like, and all three of them are
> related to the Four Seasons:
> I Just Need Your Love, produced by Bob Crewe
> I'm The Sky, arranged by Herb Bernstein
Can I assume that this is the same "I'm the Sky" as the one written and recorded
by Norma Tanega, since Herb Bernstein produced her album on DynoVoice?
Eddie, I'd like to add my welcome to all the others you've received; it's very nice
to have you here. (Sorry to say that Unit 4 + 2 got the nod for "Concrete and Clay"
on radio stations in my neck of the woods!) I'm wondering if you ever crossed
paths with Norma Tanega? I've always really enjoyed that album of hers.
Mike
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Message: 25
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 03:10:03 -0000
From: Mark Frumento
Subject: Al Kooper's website
Al -- I visited your website and it's wonderful. I was especially
taken by the photo of you with David Crosby. Wonderful shot.
The site is well worth a visit ... there is a lot to look at!
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