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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Indianapolis sixties groups
From: MopTopMike
2. 1963 from far away...
From: Mike Stachurski
3. Re: AK as songwriter
From: Frank
4. Aurora label listing
From: Jules Normington
5. 10.000 records
From: Doc
6. Walk Don't Run with Lyrics
From: Dr. Mark
7. Re:sings the new sound from england
From: BobHanes@webtv.net
8. ELO in there
From: Steve Harvey
9. Re: varispeed listening
From: Mikey
10. Re: Vocal Treatments of Instrumentals
From: Frank Wright
11. Vance And Pockriss
From: pmadreenter
12. The Vibrants
From: supremedream44224
13. Re: varispeed listening
From: C. Ponti
14. Sammy Davis Jr.
From: Mark Hill
15. Underdog ( ! ) 45 ????
From: Mark Hill
16. PBS' Great American Songbook: Tin Pan Alley & How It Nurtured Pop...
From: C. Ponti
17. Stroboscope Links
From: Mark Hill
18. Mary Hopkin
From: Al Kooper
19. Introducing a new member -- Paul Evans!
From: Dan Hughes
20. Cool link
From: Mark Hill
21. Re: Peggy Lee "Bewitched"
From: Austin Roberts
22. Los Bravos sing Ed Rambeau
From: Eddy
23. Come To The Sunshine
From: DJ Steve Popkin
24. Re: Vance & Pockriss
From: Alan Warner
25. Mary Hopkin / Tony Visconti
From: Richard Havers
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 23:48:46 -0000
From: MopTopMike
Subject: Re: Indianapolis sixties groups
Guy sez:
> You're right Dan, the Boys [Next Door] were referred to as
> the 'Beach Boys of the Midwest' no less!...
Dan Hughes wrote:
> Guy, I did a web search and found that they were from Indianapolis,
> where I grew up! They musta' got airplay on our local rock station
> (WIFE). You might enjoy this page--a list of sixties groups from
> the Indianapolis area who released records:
> http://www.danripley.com/Jason/indiana45s/naptownexcel.htm
> The only two Indianapolis groups I remember are Sir Winston & the
> Commons, who were a whole lot better than you'd guess from their
> one Soma single that is floating around ("Someday We're Gonna Love
> Again"), and the Dawn Five, who had a great folk-rock song called
> "A Necessary Evil," and who were in a bad traffic accident just as
> they were becoming very popular. I believe some of the group members
> were killed.
The Sir Winston and the Commons 45 you refer to is titled "We're
Gonna Love" / "Come Back Again" from May, 1966. They had a second
release on their own label, called Nauseating Butterfly in 1967.
"One Last Chance" / "Not The Spirit Of India".
The Dawn 5 featured the Nicoloff brothers, one went on to CA in
the 70s as a writer/producer.
MopTopMike
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 13:02:32 +1300
From: Mike Stachurski
Subject: 1963 from far away...
Hi all,
1963 is also notable in that two foreign records went to #1
in the USA: Kyu Sakamoto's "Sukiyaki" (from Japan) and the
Singing Nun (her name actually meant Sister Smile) from
Belgium with "Dominique".
Strange also to observe that both artists died from unnatural
causes in the same year (1985)
Mike Stachurski,
Librarian-in-training
DUNEDIN, NZ
http://www.geocities.com/isidore01/OzNZMusic.html
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 00:51:28 -0000
From: Frank
Subject: Re: AK as songwriter
Al Kooper wrote:
> 1963 - "The Old Rag Man"
> FREDDIE CANNON
> Warner Bros. 5666
This is one of my favorite Freddy Cannon obscurities. I like
to dig it out, and have people guess who is singing it. Nobody
can guess it's the boom-boom guy doing a ballad. This Dick Glasser
production sounds like it's got THE ASSOCIATION singing backup.
Could it be?? Both acts were on WB at the time. Anybody know?
> "A Young Man's Fancy"
> TOMMY SANDS
> ABC Paramount 10466
This was of course made after his hits on Capitol, and he was
trying hard to score a comeback, while his young bride, Nancy
Sinatra was singing "Cuff Links & Tie Clip", trying to find
her hit sound.
Frank Wright
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 11:56:09 +1100
From: Jules Normington
Subject: Aurora label listing
Davie Gordon:
> AURORA RECORDS, distributed by Amy/Mala/Bell [see below]
> Any help in filling in missing credits and matrix numbers
> would be appreciated.
Hi Davie...all I can add is the 'b' side of #151 Joey Brooks....
I have it that there were two editions of 151...both with that
same 'A' side ("Little Bit Of Rain"), but with "You Better Move
On", and "Nein Nein Fraulein" as the two 'B's....and #152 I have
as: TONY PASTOR JR.'s "Peyton Place" / "Just Around The Corner"
I assume the other Aurora labels with the likes of Bob Cores,
the Pace Setters, Gordon Dilworth, Wayne Sherwood, and the
Patriots were at least two if not three different labels...correct?
Cheers,
Jules
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 19:37:36 -0500
From: Doc
Subject: 10.000 records
Doc:
> As for me I just sold my 40-year record collection,
> all 10,000 records, to a female collector!
Scott:
> Not to pry, but how did you go about pricing a collection
> like this?
Well, I had many records price guided at 30, 50, 100, 250, 300,
etc. And I had many more worth 10 cents. So we struck a deal --
just under a dollar per record.
Doc
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 18:11:48 -0500
From: Dr. Mark
Subject: Walk Don't Run with Lyrics
Mikey:
> Bet you guys didnt know that there is a VOCAL version of
> The Ventures "Walk Don't Run"!!
OK, I'll bite. By WHO???
Mark
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 22:03:07 -0800 (PST)
From: BobHanes@webtv.net
Subject: Re:sings the new sound from england
....it seems to me, all too appropriate that Bobby Vee
should do such an album. After all, Bobby was discovered
doing a Buddy Holly schtick, McCartney loved Buddy Holly,
the Beatles is a play on the Crickets. Heck Bobby even
recorded an album with the Crickets, I always thought it
was appropriate. It's his album with the Ventures I never
"got".
The Right Reverend Bob, dumb angel chapel,
Church of the Harmonic Overdub
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:22:21 -0800 (PST)
From: Steve Harvey
Subject: ELO in there
I saw ELO play their American debut up in Ambler, PA
when they openned for the reformed Blues Project.
Being a diehard Move fan I was really into the early
'O and dug the Idle Race. However, ELO never did much
for me in terms of their songwriting. Too much of an
imitation of the Beatles music, but not strong enough
melodies.
As for 60s radio, the Beatles may have obscured other
artists, but they had to be damn good to do it. The
competition was fierce. You could turn on AM and hear
decent stuff in the 60s and towards the end we turned
over to FM. Nowadays I play tapes.
By the way, a couple of years ago a local tavern,
Maddie's in Malvern, was continually having ELO play
there. I think it was one or two original guys. Jeff
Lynne got wind of it and put out another ELO album to
kill off any claims to the name (ala Michael Clark's
Byrds).
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 16:44:25 -0500
From: Mikey
Subject: Re: varispeed listening
On "Over and Over" by the Dave Clark Five, Mikes Smith's
voice is almost a semitone higher than on most of the other
45s. A definite speed up.
Mikey
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 01:20:59 -0000
From: Frank Wright
Subject: Re: Vocal Treatments of Instrumentals
John Fox wrote:
> Not sure if anyone's mentioned the vocal version of "Telstar"
> by Bobby Rydell. Someone (Kal Mann or Bernie Lowe?) force-fit
> some awful lyrics to the tune, made even worse by adding several
> extra syllables of music to make the words fit. The first line,
> to match 9 notes of the tune,...
I always liked Rydell's vocal version. Has anybody got a stereo copy
of this LP? (All The Hits Vol. 2)
Rydell had a few other vocal renditions of instrumental hits,
including Bent Fabric's "Alley Cat", Acker Bilk's "Stranger On The
Shore", and Dave Baby Cortez' "Rinky Dink". Bobby's version was
retitled "The Cha Cha Cha". Both versions peaked at #10 in Billboard.
Also on a Cameo/Parkway v/a album was a vocal version of the
Chantay's "Pipeline" by Dee Dee Sharp, retitled "Ridin' The Waves".
Actor James Darren released vocal versions of two Duane Eddy
instrumentals - "Because They're Young" and "Gidget Goes Hawaiian",
both on Colpix singles.
Percy Faith's "Theme From A Summer Place" spawned two notable vocal
versions, by Dick Roman (Harmon), and Joanie Sommers (WB). Joanie
also released a vocal version of Tobin Matthews' "Ruby Duby Du" (WB
5183) backed by the Sir Chauncey Combo (Ernie Freeman). Sir
Chauncey's instrumental of "Beautiful Obsession" had a vocal version
by Johnny Walsh, also on WB, backed by Sir Chauncey.
Floyd Cramer's "On the Rebound" had a vocal version sung by Jerry
Holmes, also on RCA, probably featuring Floyd Cramer on piano.
Finally, the song that started this thread - "WIPEOUT". I don't
believe anyone has yet reported the vocal version by the Beachboys
with the Fat Boys, that was a hit in 1987. There was a video of it
on MTV.
Frank Wright
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Joanie_Sommers/
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 01:22:56 -0000
From: pmadreenter
Subject: Vance And Pockriss
Austin, I don't know anything about Hank & Dave, but it wouldn't
surprise me at all to learn that that was Vance & Pockriss themselves.
They seem to have made up new names to perform under at the drop of a
hat, just like Ray Hildebrand used-a do...
Here are some additions to Alan Warner's short checklist from a couple
days ago:
LEE & PAUL - The Chick/??? (Columbia 4-41337)
(Novelty with beatnik lingo and 4-year-old narrator/singer)
GIRLFRIENDS - Four Shy Girls/Jamie (Pioneer 71833)
(VANCE/POCKRISS wrote & produced. A-side is rewrite of 'Teeny Weeny'.)
JULIUS AND CAESAR - Ape On My Fire Escape/It's Over There (Wren 307)
(This one just came today in the mail, talk about synchronicity...
V&P wrote both sides, and it sure sounds like them performing.)
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 02:29:31 -0000
From: supremedream44224
Subject: The Vibrants
Has anyone ever heard of a group called "The Vibrants"? I was at a
Half Price Bookstore tonight and saw the LP and with it was included
a 8X10 studio photo of the group, which included 2 guys and 2 gals.
The clothes and hairstyles looked like from maybe the late 50's? The
LP and Photo were in a glass case, so, didn't have close inspection
of it.
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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 02:52:59 -0000
From: C. Ponti
Subject: Re: varispeed listening
Wow, Al!
I never thought of slowing stuff down! It was always: higher is better.
Use your capo, get out the helium, whatever it takes, just raise the
key at any price. I guess the Chipmunks and Ross Bagdasarian were my
ultimate heroes. I heard rumors that Frankie Valli used helium to hit
those notes. Do you have any memory of Steve Boone playing bass on a
Zimmerman session? I met you at Ralph's in Hollywood once years ago!!
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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 18:35:23 -0500
From: Mark Hill
Subject: Sammy Davis Jr.
> Sammy Davis, Jr. did a vocal to Hawaii 5-0 which was an album track,
"You Can Count On Me" on 20th Century Fox- early 70s.
Bad. too. Like fingernails on a blackboard.
I just heard this last fall for the first time and I was so surprised.
It was one of the songs that led to my posing the question about
other songs, generally known as instrumentals, having vocal versions,
too.
I found an MP3 out there somewhere on the net. Can't rememember the link.
Mark
"Dr. Mark" Hill * The Doctor Of Pop Culture
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Message: 15
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 20:29:55 -0500
From: Mark Hill
Subject: Underdog ( ! ) 45 ????
> "The Underdog Theme"// complete with a picture cover.
> Evidently the master numbers were close...
This one caught my attention. Can you elaborate on this "Underdog
Theme" 45 w. picture sleeve??? I've sure never heard of this one!
Is it a cover version? Can you describe the sleeve and do you know
who the artist it? Or is it the original soundtrack???
Anyone else know of this???
Thanx, Mark
"Dr. Mark" Hill * The Doctor Of Pop Culture
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Message: 16
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 03:16:15 -0000
From: C. Ponti
Subject: PBS' Great American Songbook: Tin Pan Alley & How It Nurtured Pop...
As I watched this celebration of tin pan alley, Gershwin, Berlin, it
occurred to me how greatly the standards of this era affected and
molded the writers, both American and English, of the 60's. We all
grew up sitting by radios with a yellowish light glowing behind a
Zenith or RCA logo, dreaming of writing songs like our moms were
singing. We songwriters of the 60's fashioned our music to conform to
certain rules we learned listening to radio as kids, i.e. verse, b-
section, chorus. We learned this largely by listening to radio as
kids. Jimmy Van Heusen was my personal god, and I got to meet him when
I was about 13. The Brits were listening to Sinatra and the Hit Parade
of the 50's, as were we, and you can hear the influence in works from
Lennon & McCartney as easily as from Goffin.
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Message: 17
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 23:48:58 -0500
From: Mark Hill
Subject: Stroboscope Links
Have did several quick searches for a FAQ or how to, not found yet, but
did find:
http://www.garage-a-records.com/links.html
http://www.garage-a-records.com/access.html#strobe
c.07/2002- Person will send a free Stroboscope copy
http://mmd.foxtail.com/Archives/Digests/200007/2000.07.25.15.html
"Dr. Mark" Hill * The Doctor Of Pop Culture
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Message: 18
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 00:34:44 EST
From: Al Kooper
Subject: Mary Hopkin
> Last I heard, Mary (Hopkin) & Tony (Visconti) got divorced and
> Mary was planning to give her career some new life and a new
> direction.
May Pang has been married to Tony Visconti for many years so Mary
must have left at least 12 years ago, if not more
al kooper
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Message: 19
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 23:57:11 -0600
From: Dan Hughes
Subject: Introducing a new member -- Paul Evans!
Hi Gang,
I'm happy to announce that Paul Evans has informed me that he has joined
our group and should be making an introductory post soon. I promised him
some really obscure questions from everyone, so don't disappoint him....
Thanks,
---Dan
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Message: 20
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 22:55:25 -0500
From: Mark Hill
Subject: Cool link
Charles G. Hill on the "Do It Now" LP:
> I've written a little piece about this very LP, at:
> http://www.dustbury.com/music/doitnow.html.
Charles, Thank you for posting this link. While there I checked out all
your articles and links. http://www.dustbury.com/music/ Great articles
that all record collectors here not familiar with yet should check out.
Mark
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Message: 21
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 01:45:34 EST
From: Austin Roberts
Subject: Re: Peggy Lee "Bewitched"
Mick Patrick:
> "Bewitched" - they get the writers wrong on this CD. Idiots!
Melody by Jack Keller
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Message: 22
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 10:21:20 +0100
From: Eddy
Subject: Los Bravos sing Ed Rambeau
Ed Rambeau:
> I was both a lyrics and melody man. Often times I even wrote
> both. There is a Los Bravos song I wrote complete lyrics to
> while in Cannes at the music festival in 19 blah, blah, blah.
> I can't even remember the name of it.
Ed, Would that be Make it Last on the Bring a Little Lovin' album?
Eddy
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Message: 23
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 04:59:12 -0500
From: DJ Steve Popkin
Subject: Come To The Sunshine
Anyone have any info on these?
Rhino Handmade (http://www.rhinohandmade.com), January:
Come To The Sunshine: Soft Pop Nuggets From WEA Vaults
Hallucinations: Psychedelic Pop Nuggets From WEA Vaults
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Message: 24
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 02:14:18 -0800
From: Alan Warner
Subject: Re: Vance & Pockriss
Re: Vance & Pockriss:
The reason that I call WHILE THE RECORD GOES AROUND
a novelty song is because of its wonderful gimmick
of reproducing a faulty record at the opening of the
chorus; the song repeats itself, giving the impression
of the record repeating the phrase "While the rec".
Rock on!
Alan Warner
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Message: 25
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 11:02:28 +0000
From: Richard Havers
Subject: Mary Hopkin / Tony Visconti
> Last I heard, Mary (Hopkin) & Tony (Visconti) got divorced and
> Mary was planning to give her career some new life and a new
> direction.
Al Kooper:
> May Pang has been married to Tony Visconti for many years so Mary
> must have left at least 12 years ago, if not more
Tony and May are separated/divorced now. Tony has been busy, as many
probably know, doing the last two Bowie albums. He has also been
working with the Finns and most recently the (very excellent) Manic
Street Preachers.
Richard
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