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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: The Now Sound
From: James Botticelli
2. Re: Shake-A-Pudd'n
From: ACJ
3. Re: AK & The Zombies
From: Billy G. Spradlin
4. Re: Tommy Li Puma
From: Frank
5. Re: Kitchen Cinq
From: Mark T
6. Re: Great Shakes
From: Kim Cooper
7. Re: Goffin/King research
From: Don
8. Gregory Howard
From: John C
9. Re: The Chants' "Respectable"
From: Bill Craig
10. Re: Keith Hampshire
From: Javed Jafri
11. Re: Run Run Run
From: Tony Leong
12. Teacho Wiltshire
From: Al Kooper
13. Re: Wayne Newton and his Beach Boy-like record
From: Eddy
14. Rashkow's Recitation Of The Ridiculous
From: Chris
15. Re: Moondog meets The Lonely Goat Herd?
From: Norm D. Plume
16. Re: Don Kirshner's Rock Concert
From: Clark Besch
17. Re: S'Poppers on American Bandstand
From: Clark Besch
18. Re: On Porpoise
From: Clark Besch
19. Re: Welcome Paul Evans!
From: Clark Besch
20. Re: Welcome Paul Evans!
From: Paul Evans
21. Re: Supremes' "Run Run Run": male voices
From: Paul Levinson
22. The Hassles/New York City (You're...)
From: Jim Shannon
23. Re: "Just One Smile" / "You Don't Love Me"
From: Al Kooper
24. Can you help us?
From: Mary
25. Re: Mark & Clark - Ron Dante connection
From: Laura Pinto
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2004 19:55:44 -0500
From: James Botticelli
Subject: Re: The Now Sound
Phil Milstein wrote:
> Thanks for the Brass Ring info, Justin. "The Now Sound" is
> as good a name for this genre as I could imagine......
I'm an aficionado of "Now Sound", a legitimate, oft-used, and
great way to describe, the sound of 30-something musicians in the
late 60s trying to bridge the generation gap musically. One of
the VERY best recommendations I can make in this realm, better
than Brass Ring, is Warren Kime's "Brass Impact" trilogy, three
separate LPs of classy brassy versions of Beatles, show tunes,
standards, bossa-latin numbers and an original here and there
overlaid with cooing wordless harmonizing female vocals and a
swingin' beat driven backing. Also look for any trad. artists
doing contemporary hits.
Like Nelson Riddle, Frank Barber, Howard Roberts, Bob Crewe,
Enoch Light.... Often the LPs have the titles like "Today"
or "Now" or "New Sounds for the Now Generation" etc. Usually
covered are songs like Eleanor Rigby, Winchester Cathedral,
Sunny, Spinning Wheel, Raindrops Keep Falling, Alfie, Light
My Fire... You know the deal people. The LPs are out there.
James Botticelli
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2004 22:57:14 -0500 (EST)
From: ACJ
Subject: Re: Shake-A-Pudd'n
Mark Hill wrote:
> Shake-A-Pudding -- Also, during this wonderful era of mid-60s
> pop/rock commercial jingles, I remember this one that had a
> real go-go/Shindig feel. I even used to have a "Shake A Pudding"
> shaker -- now long gone.
Dr. Mark! Thank you! I was wondering when someone was FINALLY gonna
mention Shake-A-Pudd'n! I even remember having some when I was a kid,
and the package actually had those lyrics printed on it!
And about "Respectable": So, I may safely assume that this is also
the same song the Yardbirds did on both of their Clapton-era live
albums - "Five Live Yardbirds" and "Live Blueswailing?"
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 05:21:23 -0000
From: Billy G. Spradlin
Subject: Re: AK & The Zombies
Al Kooper wrote:
> As far as The Zombies album: I had made my first pilgrimage
> to the UK in 1968, ......and that of course was more than
> sufficient.
What other albums did you pick up during your first UK trip?
THANK YOU for getting CBS to release "Odyssey" in the USA. It's
been one of my all-time favorite albums for years.
Billy
http://listen.to/jangleradio
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 07:22:48 +0200
From: Frank
Subject: Re: Tommy Li Puma
> I was wondering why I never read much about the mid
> to late 60s production work of Tommy Li Puma.
In any case he just produced the new Diana Krall CD to be
released at the end of April.
Frank
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 04:27:01 -0000
From: Mark T
Subject: Re: Kitchen Cinq
John Berg wrote:
> I know that one reissue label is quite interested in doing a Kitchen
> Cinq CD, if they can track down who currently owns the rights and
> has the master tapes. If any of you know these details, please
> contact me offlist.
The LHI stuff was distributed by Decca so all of the tapes should be
at Universal. As for who owns it, Lee Hazlewood might still own the
LHI stuff and Universal the Decca tracks.
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2004 18:08:12 -0800
From: Kim Cooper
Subject: Re: Great Shakes
I was talking on the phone with Brute Force and he blew my mind (yet again) when
he mentioned that he WROTE the "Great Shakes" jingle that the Who, Yardbirds etc.
recorded. He was surprised to hear they had, as he only recalled the version his
friends the Tokens did. But sure enough, he sang a little snippet of the
bootleg-familiar "Great Shakes" tune. Too much!
Kim
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 02:28:24 -0000
From: Don
Subject: Re: Goffin/King research
Frank,
I know that all of the titles are G/K titles, and I have all of the
versions listed in your reply. What I was looking for, was to find
out if anyone was familiar with the versions by the artists listed in
my original email. They are listed in "Tapestry Of Delights" and
other books by borderlinebooks.com.
Also, Paul Bryant referred me to Bob's page. I am quite familiar
with Bob's page, in fact, I am going to see Bob on Tuesday. We are
both going to the Mann/Weil show in NYC. But Bob's page just lists
the titles, not the artists.
Don
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2004 22:51:15 -0500
From: John C
Subject: Gregory Howard
Martin Roberts:
> ..........."When In Love (Do As Lovers Do)"..... An absolute
> diamond of a record, The Gee-Tones, featuring 15 year old Gregory
> Howard is a blinder, an up-tempo kiddie led doo-wop rocker.
> I assume my copy is a bootleg on Gee Records 1013 which would
> date it about '57 but it sounds early 60s.
Hello All,
The Gee-Tones copy is a boot, from around the late 70s. I know this
because I know the guy who booted it! He's the same guy who booted
45 copies of "Stormy Weather" by The Five Sharps on Jubilee.
Regards,
John Clemente
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 03:52:22 -0000
From: Bill Craig
Subject: Re: The Chants' "Respectable"
Bobster enquired:
> Also for once and for all is this originally by The Chants,
> circa 1961-62? Or is that a completely different tune?
Fred Clemens replied:
> The Chants' "Respectable" was the same song as the Outsiders,
> but they weren't the original. The original (and best, IMHO)
> was by the Isley Brothers, for RCA Victor Records in 1959. It
> was flipped with quite a "respectable" version of "Without A Song".
>
> The Chants recorded 2 or 3 different versions of the tune. At
> least they had at least three separate label issues (UWR?, M-G-M,
> and Twentieth Century) The Twentieth Century issue credits, as
> I recall, Jimmy Soul and the Chants. That version appears on an
> oddball LP issue (Premier/Coronet ... one was mono and the other
> enhanced stereo) mistakingly crediting it to Jimmy Soul and the
> Belmonts.
I think it's very likely that The Outsiders were covering The
Yardbirds' version of "Respectable", which appeared on the live side
of their "Having A Rave-Up With" LP. Around that time that album with
the live and studio versions of "I'm A Man" were pretty much required
listening for anyone interested in where rock and roll (and pop) was
headed. Just pre-psychedelia. So The Outsiders choose a tune that was
both commercial and hip by association.
Bill Craig
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2004 21:54:09 -0500
From: Javed Jafri
Subject: Re: Keith Hampshire
John G. Henderson wrote:
> To help clarify recent comments and questions plus add to the
> superb trivia found regularly with this group, Keith Hampshire
> was an announcer at CHUM-AM in Toronto some years ago.
> He is now semi-retired from the media industry.
Actually Keith was a DJ on CHUM's main competitor CKFH AM 1430.
Javed
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 09:12:30 -0000
From: Tony Leong
Subject: Re: Run Run Run
Phil X. Milstein wrote:
> In listening to "Phil's Spectre" again the other night, it finally
> struck me what's so odd about The Supremes' "Run Run Run": male
> backing vocals! Am I correct in believing that was a real rarity for
> Motown's girl groups, at least during the company's early days?
About the Supremes' "Run Run Run" - Holland Dozier and Holland
actually sang with Mary and Florence in the background. They
also did so on another Supremes LP cut "Standing At The Crossroads
Of Love". Also, on some early Martha/Vandellas tracks, Brian Holland
or Mickey Stevenson sings along with the girls and it is very audible
on some tracks. I guess it was for production purposes or to fatten
up the sound (plus, perhaps the Andantes were nowhere to be found!!!)
So, it was not uncommon for a male to contribute to the vocals along
with the backup girls on early Motown stuff. Geez, it's great to be
posting about early '60s Motown on this site again - BUT good music
is good music!!!!!!!
Tony Leong
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 06:09:01 EST
From: Al Kooper
Subject: Teacho Wiltshire
Martin:
> .....Another pair (particularly "When I Saw You") of fine uptempo
> doo-wop songs, both arranged by Teacho Wiltshire.
I actually studied with Teacho Wiltshire (hence the Teacho). He was
so busy he would have me write ghost arrangements for him around '63
- '64. B-sides mostly. But what an education!
Al Kooper
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 09:08:46 +0100
From: Eddy
Subject: Re: Wayne Newton and his Beach Boy-like record
Steveo wrote:
> Wayne was under contract at the time to TM Music (Bobby Darin),
> and because of the surf craze, he tried a surfin' record (as did
> Pat Boone with his "Beach Girl"). "Comin' On Too Strong" I believe
> was produced by Terry Melcher and/or Bruce Johnson (trying to
> remember) and this was the Beach Boy link.
The Wayne Newton and Pat Boone 45s were both produced by Terry
Melcher. They both have Bruce Johnston on backing vocals.
Eddy
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 03:53:07 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
From: Chris
Subject: Rashkow's Recitation Of The Ridiculous
> Ed & Sam Chalpin, His Father The Pop Singer: A Recitation Of The
> Ridiculous by Mike Rashkow:
> http://www.spectropop.com/SamChalpin/index.htm
I don't know if I want to hear the record in question, but I'm
*very* glad to've read the article. Reminds me of Saul Bellow --
specifically the Bellow of "The Last Analysis." Bravo!
Chris
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 05:09:37 -0800 (PST)
From: Norm D. Plume
Subject: Re: Moondog meets The Lonely Goat Herd?
Previously:
> ... what was the first disc to bear the legend "Produced by
> Bacharach and David"?
Phil X. Milstein wrote:
> I'm guessing Moondog's legendary microtonal rendition of "Walk On By."
Well, The Moondog did do an album with Julie Andrews in the 50s, so I
could almost go for Phil's reply. Does anyone know where the Moondog/
Julie Andrews collaboration can be obtained?
Norm D. Plume
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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 13:29:17 -0000
From: Clark Besch
Subject: Re: Don Kirshner's Rock Concert
Mike the Bass Player wrote:
> I'm sure all of you remember the show "Don Kirshner's Rock
> Concert" which was on the ABC network from the early '70s
> through the late '70s. Does anyone know if these performances
> were archived, ever released a la the Ed Sullivan rock series,
> or are planned for release?
Mike, these have never been released on DVD that I know of, but VH1
or MTV showed condensed versions in the late 80s, so they do still
exist.
Clark
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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 13:36:53 -0000
From: Clark Besch
Subject: Re: S'Poppers on American Bandstand
Clark previously:
> I'm sure that Paul Evans and others must have had songs or
> appearances on the show, but were not listed in the book I have.
Paul replied:
> Sure I appeared on the show -- several times. According to Dick's
> book, "Rock, Roll and Remember", when they needed someone to play
> the part of Fred (in the Back Seat) on one show, they pulled a yet-
> unknown Bobby Rydell from the audience. Did that make him a
> star? :-)
Paul, great story! If I were you, I'd be asking Bobby for residuals!
He had a great career shortly after that moment! It's amazing how many
people instantly remember that song when I bring it up. It's in the
class of "Itsy Bitsy" for how many remember it. I have a guy at work
who's about 28 and named Fred. I asked him if he knew of the song.
Altho' he had never heard the song, he did KNOW of it. The understated
humor involved in your reading is what I like best about it.
Thanks,
Clark
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Message: 18
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 14:16:37 -0000
From: Clark Besch
Subject: Re: On Porpoise
Mark:
> The next Monkees single "Porpoise Song" was also weak.
Country Paul wrote:
> Disagree strongly, Mark; you're attacking my favorite Monkees
> track. I do agree about a general descent by the group, although Mike
> Nesmith was emerging from it to have his own solid repertoire with
> "Joanne" and more. I don't profess to be an expert on this group, as
> I was a Beatles-progressive rock type and the Monkees were initially
> viewed as the manufactured rip-offs; but ultimately, their talent won me
> over, and to my ears "Porpoise Song" was going in a good direction for
> them. Just my opinion, and, like noses, everyone has one.
Paul, altho' I thought "Porpoise" OK and certainly much better than "DW",
I have to admit that when I got the DJ copy as it was released, after one
listen, I immediately again flipped it to "As We Go Along", hoping for
another "Girl I Knew Somewhere". Alas, the 45 was soon sat aside. I
still like both sides OK, but I was wanting the "old" Monkees back at the time.
Clark
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Message: 19
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 14:34:46 -0000
From: Clark Besch
Subject: Re: Welcome Paul Evans!
Artie Wayne wrote:
> Paul....... Welcome to Spectropop!!!
> You're part of a group who appreciates your accomplishments and
> are eager to hear some of the stories behind the songs. I, for one,
> would like to know if "Roses Are Red" is a real story - "Did that
> little girl look a lot like you?" - or just a figment of your and
> Al Byron's imagination.
Bobby Vinton is coming to Lincoln (where I live) over Valentine's Day
and they use "Roses are Red" as the song in the advertisement. I
guess it's still his signature song!
Clark
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Message: 20
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 15:33:28 -0000
From: Paul Evans
Subject: Re: Welcome Paul Evans!
Artie Wayne wrote:
> I remember when I was starting out in the business, and you were
> having hits as a singer and writer. Ben Raleigh, my longtime
> songwriting partner, introduced me to you. I was so proud when you
> remembered my name each time I'd run into you -- you made me feel
> welcome in the music community.
>
> I never thought I'd have a chance to recipricate: Welcome to
> Spectropop!!! You're part of a group who appreciates your
> accomplishments and are eager to hear some of the stories behind the
> songs. I, for one, would like to know if "Roses Are Red" is a real
> story -- "Did that little girl look a lot like you?" -- or just a
> figment of your and Al Byron's imagination.
Hi Artie,
Equally nice to hear from you. This is definitely one of the joys
of Spectropop - hearing from people who were part of my rapidly
retreating past. ;-(
I hope this e-mail finds you happy and healthy. All's well at the
Evans'. I'm now writing with one of my ex co-writer's sons, John
Krondes, son of Jimmy ("Warm" and "The End") Krondes. Unfortunately,
Jimmy passed away several years ago.
Thanks for reminding me about how well I treated you. :-)
Your e-mail just reinforces my feeling that "What Goes Around Comes
Around".
Good luck with your "Glizards" - proof that creative people will
find an outlet for their talents.
Paul
PS Great Shadow Mann story. And that reminds me - I just picked up
tickets to Barry Mann / Cynthia Weil's new off-Broadway show, "They
Wrote That?".
PPS Re: "Roses Are Red (My Love)" No resemblance to persons living
or dead was intended! Just a great line that popped out of Al's
head.
======================
Check out Paul's CDs,
"HAPPY GO LUCKY ME - the PAUL EVANS SONGBOOK"
(Featuring Paul's original hits and song demos)
"ROSES ARE RED, MY LOVE"
(Featuring new recordings of "When" and "Roses Are Red, My Love)
"I WAS A PART OF THE 50'S"
(Featuring tracks that are not available on any other CD)
at:
Web site:
Message: 21
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 15:44:19 -0000
From: Paul Levinson
Subject: Re: Supremes' "Run Run Run": male voices
Phil X. Milstein wrote:
> In listening to "Phil's Spectre" again the other night, it finally
> struck me what's so odd about The Supremes' "Run Run Run": male
> backing vocals! Am I correct in believing that was a real rarity for
> Motown's girl groups, at least during the company's early days?
There was also a male voice in the middle of The Supremes' "When the
Love Light Starts Shining Through His Eyes" in 1963.
All best,
Paul
http://www.sff.net/people/paullevinson
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Message: 22
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 16:05:25 -0000
From: Jim Shannon
Subject: The Hassles/New York City (You're...)
>From the "lost songs on the radio" category: Anyone recall Billy
Joel's first band "The Hassles"? The band originated on Long
Island and had a minor regional hit called "Every Step I Take,"
released sometime in the spring of '68. Not sure what label it
was recorded on.
Fast speed to Al Kooper; one of my favorite songs was a great
composition called "New York City (You're A Woman)." Really nice
vocals and lyrics. Also, good song to seg with on radio.
Jim Shannon
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Message: 23
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 11:15:31 EST
From: Al Kooper
Subject: Re: "Just One Smile" / "You Don't Love Me"
Bob Radil:
> "Just One Smile" is from the 1st BS+T LP, "Child Is Father To The
> Man". "You Don't Love Me" is a cut from Bloomfield Kooper Stills'
> "SuperSession" LP. I was hoping Al Kooper would see the post.
He did. In Spectropop land, he sees all....
Al Kooper
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Message: 24
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 16:49:52 -0000
From: Mary
Subject: Can you help us?
Remember the Mickey Mouse Club....Spin and Marty??? Does anyone
have the words to the "Triple R Song"?
Thanks,
Mary
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Message: 25
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 17:28:30 -0000
From: Laura Pinto
Subject: Re: Mark & Clark - Ron Dante connection
Ron Dante wrote:
> Mark and Clark were a fun duo to produce. We used twin grand pianos
> in the studio, and they played the heck of them on each song.
> Recently they played Las Vagas at the Imperial Palace lounge.
Hi Ron and all,
I'd seen the Mark and Clark LP on eBay in the past and knew Ron was its
producer, but I was unaware that their instrument of choice was piano ...
and "twin" pianos is a cool concept! I LOVE piano (it was definitely a
factor in my becoming a fan of Neil Sedaka's), and if I could play any
instrument, that's the one I'd choose. I'll have to grab a copy of the
duo's album next time I see it listed.
Thanks for the info.
Laura
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