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There are 16 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Oh Micky You're So Fine
From: John Fox
2. Re: Teacho and the Diplomats?
From: Dan Hughes
3. Re: Bobby Freeman
From: Eddy
4. Re: Laugh-In Update
From: Clark Besch
5. Larry Hall
From: Austin Powell
6. Chad & Jeremy
From: Jim Shannon
7. Final notes on BlueBeats
From: Jim Shannon
8. Re: Barry Mann and Cynthia Weil off-Broadway
From: Dan Hughes
9. Double Image
From: Jeff Lemlich
10. Neil Sedaka & the Cookies
From: Mick Patrick
11. Re: Eleven Of The Best - Clarence Palmer & The Jive Bombers
From: Al Kooper
12. Tandyn Almer Association
From: Al Kooper
13. RCA Studio A, at 155 E 24th St
From: Mikey
14. Re: Jeanette
From: Julio Niño
15. Re: Valiant
From: Jules Normington
16. Doris Troy @ Musica
From: Mick Patrick
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 09:26:31 EST
From: John Fox
Subject: Re: Oh Micky You're So Fine
Albabe Gordon wrote:
> I think Mickey fits very easily on the list of the "top ten
> most under-appreciated singers of all time." I love his voice.
There are musicians, and there are entertainers. There are even
musicians who become entertainers (Eric Clapton?). Micky Dolenz
was hardly a musician, but he was a great entertainer--as an
actor, comedian and even as a singer. Every time I listen to The
Monkees' Greatest Hits album I remind myself how underrated he
was. "Goin' Down" is one of the great vocal performances of all
time (and the horn parts aren't bad either!)
John Fox
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 08:29:33 -0600
From: Dan Hughes
Subject: Re: Teacho and the Diplomats?
> Al, you said you did a lot of work with Teacho Wilshire. I have
> a 45 that was arranged by Teacho, and I wondered if you did any
> work on it? It's the Diplomats on AROCK Records, AR-1000. The
> songs are "Cards on the Table" b/w "Unchained Melody".
I did a Google search and found that a copy of this record sold for
nearly $500 recently! Zowie! So my question is, does anyone have a
suggestion as to how I might get something near that for my copy?
Maybe I oughta go through my boxes of 45s again.....
---Dan
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 15:50:58 +0100
From: Eddy
Subject: Re: Bobby Freeman
Country Paul:
> Did Bobby Freeman do more on King, or was this a one-off?
Bobby Freeman on KING :
King 5373 - Shimmy shimmy/You don't understand me (1960)
(1961-1963 : 4 45's on Josie" + 1 on Parkway)
King 5953 - Fever/What can I do (1964)
King 5962 - Be my little chick-a-dee/Somebody somewhere (1964)
(1964-1965 : 5 45's on Autumn + 1 on Josie)
King 5975 - There's gonna be a change/Come to me (1965)
Eddy
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 15:52:23 -0000
From: Clark Besch
Subject: Re: Laugh-In Update
I remember taping many of these as half hour shows on cable in the
80's--thus they cut the musical acts usually. I did get that Temps
one tho. I also got the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band acting our a civil
war (I think) scene over the playing of "Buy For Me the Rain", which
would make it one of Laugh In's first musical adventures, I'd think.
Too bad I can't get that network. However, I DO get 10 shopping
channels..... :( Clark
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 18:17:08 -0000
From: Austin Powell
Subject: Larry Hall
Country Paul:
> ...who was Larry Hall, and what else did he record, write, etc.?
> (I've got the 45 on Strand, and seem to remember there was an
> album issued after the single.)
Paul: This is from my information on the short-lived UK Salvo label
which issued one Larry Hall single:
SLO 1811
Larry Hall
Ladder Of Love / The One You Left Behind
Release date: Thursday 3rd May 1962
US source: Strand Records (25048).
Born in Cincinnati, Ohio in 1941 (some say 1940), Larry Hall was a
one-hit wonder in America, taking "Sandy" (Strand 25007), written
by Terry Fell to # 15 on Billboard's singles chart in 1959. In the
UK Parlophone issued the record in 1960 (R 4625) without success.
Subsequent releases including "A Girl Like You" (25013), "I'll Stay
Single" (25016), "The Girl I Left Behind" (25025) and "Lips Of Wine"
(25029) all failed to chart in America as did "Ladder Of Love", his
final outing on Strand. He went on to make a few records for the
Gold Leaf label, again without any luck. He died of cancer in 199
Strand Records released "Sandy" on 21st September 1959 having picked
it up from the Hot label where it had been released on 31st August
(Hot 1).
Other than that, the album on Strand was called "Sandy and other
Larry Hall Hits" (Strand SLS 1005) but I have no track listing.
Hope that helps a bit.......Austin
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 20:04:50 -0000
From: Jim Shannon
Subject: Chad & Jeremy
Before and After/Zanzibar Sunset
Anyone know if these two releases by Chad and Jeremy are available
on CD? "Before and After" was classic British Folk-Rock. "Zanzibar"
was their final release. I have the 45 of "Before" but it is in poor
condition.
Thanks goes out to music scholars Country Paul and Bob R for getting
the rocker "Extra Girl" on musica. Still think it sounds a little
like a variation of the Kingsmen. with a touch of British influence.
Has two great hooks in it and Lance Drake can hit a high note or two
...."I could do better with your other cousin, cause extra girls come
a dime.....
Jim Shannon
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 21:23:29 -0000
From: Jim Shannon
Subject: Final notes on BlueBeats
As I mentioned in a previous dispatch, the BlueBeats were managed
by a DJ named Ken Griffen (KHJ) (WPOP)(WDRC) from '66 til '69. In
'67 after "Extra Girl's" modest regional success, Griffen
attempted to "re-market" them under the name The #1. He was
promotion savey having worked as a publisist for the actor Sal
Mineo while working in Los Angeles radio. But, what turned out to
be a questonable business decision, Griffen turned down a shot at
recording a song that was later recorded by the Lemon Pipers called
"Rice is Nice" ( a lush, soft pop ballad) . Not ready to give up
his beloved band, Griffen once again changed the name of the group
in early '69 to The Movies and released another single (the song
that slips my mind) but it failed to chart in major markets. The
Movies disbanded by mid '69 and faded into obscurity.
Jim Shannon
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 22:48:43 -0600
From: Dan Hughes
Subject: Re: Barry Mann and Cynthia Weil off-Broadway
Is my memory totally askew, or was it Barry Mann who did an
"answer song" to Rick Nelson's "Teenage Idol", called "Teenage
Has-been"?
People call me a teenage has-been,
Everybody laughs at me.
My first record sold a million,
My second record only sold three.
(Spoken--or rather, shouted in anguish:)
My mother bought one....my girl bought one.....and I bought one!
Perhaps a failed followup to "Who Put the Bomp"?
---Dan
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 01:36:40 -0500
From: Jeff Lemlich
Subject: Double Image
I'm wondering if anyone has the Double Image's 45 on Amy (Power
Of Love/Say You Love Me), recorded in Muscle Shoals in 1967. I
need to hear it as soon as possible for an article I'm writing.
Thanks!
Jeff Lemlich
http://www.limestonerecords.com
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 09:26:16 -0000
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Neil Sedaka & the Cookies
S'right, the group pictured with Neil Sedaka on the S'pop
members page (http://www.spectropop.com/go2/members.html)
is the one and only Cookies. The photo is from the gorgeous
book that accompanies "Oh Carol", the new 8CD Sedaka box
set on Bear Family, a rather extravagant recent purchase of
mine.
The shot was taken on February 9 1962 at RCA Victor Studio
A, 155 E 24th St, NYC, during the recording of "Breaking Up
Is Hard To Do". The lady in the middle is Margaret Ross, who
some of us will recognize from last year's S'pop Shindig in
New York. The other two - Earl Jean McCrea and Dorothy Jones
- look kinda similar and I can't tell them apart. One for
our pal John Clemente, methinks.
There are some sensational photos in the book, 33 of them
from the Feb 9 '62 session. Among others captured on film
that day were Howard Greenfield, Artie Ripp, Jack Keller,
Don Kirshner, Al Nevins, Alan Lorber, drummer Gary Chester
and saxist Artie Kaplan. I was especially gratified to see
the great shots of Sedaka sharing a mic with Malcolm Dodds,
Ralph Fields, Sylvester Fields and Noah Hopkins, collectively
known as NY session stalwarts the Malcolm Dodds Singers, a
sort of male equivalent of the Cookies.
I spotted several S'pop celebrities named in the detailed
discography in the book ... but another time.
Hey la,
Mick Patrick
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 06:29:50 EST
From: Al Kooper
Subject: Re: Eleven Of The Best - Clarence Palmer & The Jive Bombers
> 3) Clarence Palmer & The Jive Bombers (Savoy 1515) You Took My
> Love/Cherry. The follow-up to "Bad Boy" was not as well-received,
> but as well sung.
Guy Lawrence:
> Al, does this track contain the same hiccupping-frog vocal
> gimmick that featured on the wonderful "Bad Boy"?
Cherry does. If you like Bad Boy (and who doesnt?) you'll love
Cherry ummmm........Cherry Two Thousand (and four).
Al Kooper
A Jive Bomber hisself
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 06:32:16 EST
From: Al Kooper
Subject: Tandyn Almer Association
Austin Roberts wrote:
> Were the first couple of Association records on Valiant, with
> Gary Paxton recording at his house using the upstais bathroom
> for echo and having mics for different things? I think that's
> the way "Along Comes Mary" was cut.
And let's not forget the writer of Along Comes Mary......Tandyn
Almer One of the greatest real names in the history of rock n roll !!!
Al Kooper
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 07:50:11 -0500
From: Mikey
Subject: RCA Studio A, at 155 E 24th St
Mick Patrick:
> S'right, the group pictured with Neil Sedaka on the S'pop
> members page (http://www.spectropop.com/go2/members.html)
> is the one and only Cookies. The photo is from the gorgeous
> book that accompanies "Oh Carol", the new 8CD Sedaka box
> set on Bear Family, a rather extravagant recent purchase of
> mine. The shot was taken on February 9 1962 at RCA Victor
> Studio A, 155 E 24th St, NYC, during the recording of
> "Breaking Up Is Hard To Do".
RCA Studio A, at 155 E 24th street was in operation until the
mid 1970s. The building was then sold to Baruch College, where
yours truly worked in 1979.
I have examined picturess of the studio, and the exact room (it
was never remodeled) where the Studio A was became the
Registration room, where I worked.
in 2000, the building was demolished and on its site now stands
the "New" Baruch college building, a building so huge and ugly
that the entire block circulated a petition against it. While
you're in the lobby, look around and try to feel the spirit of
Elvis, Ricky nelson, Carl Perkins and many others.
Mikey
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 21:28:32 -0000
From: Julio Niño
Subject: Re: Jeanette
Hola everybody.
Frank wrote about Picnic's "Me olvidarás":
> Lovely! What a nice little gem. Is there an album to this song?
> I only have two later albums by solo Jeanette. One is "Todo Es
> Nuevo" produced by Andre Popp. Even all the songs (except for
> one) are written by him....
Frank, "Me olvidarás" was the A-side of Picnic´s third and last
single. The song was also included in their only LP. It´s a rather
forgotten song but I like it. I think that in Picnic´s records
Jeanette sounded authentically innocent, in later recordings
(including the Andre Popp´s productions you cited) she sounded
like she might be innocent. I like both: ingenuity and faux-
ingenuity.
Julio Niño
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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 13:39:14 +1100
From: Jules Normington
Subject: Re: Valiant
Please do forgive me if I'm repeating anything here as I've been
out of errr... S'pop range over the past 3 weeks (and must have
missed 4 or 500 mails)...
However I recall a 1965 J J Cale 45 on Valiant (was that his first
release even..."Cathy Dear"/"I Found Me Today"...?) ...and whoever
was Valiant's A&R champ later on was no chump - by mid-'65 he/she
must have had a passion for the Byrds and their ilk, as there's
about 7 or 8 superb folkrock-cum-garage gems on the label...by the
likes of the Allies ("I'll Sell My Soul"), The Motleys, the West
Coast Branch's amazing fuzz-guitar monstering of Willie Dixon's
"Spoonful", a couple of killers by the Plymouth Rockers ("Don't Say
Why" 's a fuzz-laden folkrock winner written by Don & Dick...ummm..
the Addrissi Brothers that is...who I'm pretty sure started their
OWN recording career on Valiant...correct me..?), and the Grains Of
Sand included that youngster Michael Lloyd covering another Don &
Dick classic...this folkrock bent is pretty much all post- the 300+
Shelby Flint 45s that the label deemed worthy, mind you...with the
exception of the Association, they sure side-stepped the sugary
orchestrated pop at the end there.
And there were some nice girl group numbers in amongst the 1962/63
Valiant stuff, eh what Mick.....guv?
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Message: 16
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 11:12:14 -0000
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Doris Troy @ Musica
As a tribute to the sadly departed Doris Troy, one of her earliest
45s, kindly supplied by my pal Rob Hughes, is now playing @ musica:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/files/musica/
Details are: Doris Payne "You Better Mind" (Shirley 101, c.1961),
written by D. Payne/S. Gardner, backing vocals by Doris' friends
the Gospelaires.
Hey la,
Mick Patrick
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