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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: NY session guys
From: AlFonts@aol.com
2. Ron Dante's Listening Booth
From: Laura Pinto
3. A rainy afternoon with The Diplomats
From: Julio Niño
4. Re: Val. Day / Barry & Tamerlanes / "Mars Bonfire"
From: Dan Hughes
5. Re: Relic Records in Hackensack, NJ
From: Matthew Kaplan
6. Re: The Victorians, info needed
From: Mike Miller
7. Re: John Waters / Leg. St. C'boy / Relic Records / Never My Love
From: Phil X. Milstein
8. Re: "Mars Bonfire"
From: Alan Zweig
9. Re: Burt Bacharach & Hal David's first production
From: Al Quaglieri
10. I went looking for a jingle -- from clear cola to linguini to Barbra
From: That Alan Gordon
11. Re: An era ends: Relic Rack closing
From: Fred Clemens
12. Re: John Waters
From: Simon White
13. Re: Hal 'n' Burt / Teenage Has-Been
From: Phil X. Milstein
14. The Daughters Of Eve
From: S'pop Projects
15. Doris Troy
From: S'pop Projects
16. Beach Boy Brian makes fans 'Smile'
From: Neb Rodgers
17. Re: Johnny Cymbal discography
From: Fred Clemens
18. Re: Chad & Jeremy reissues
From: John Berg
19. Re: Children - Robert John
From: Al Kooper
20. Re: Ali Baba's Camel/LSD
From: Stewart Mason
21. Valiant, Addrisi Bros., girls...
From: Jules Normington
22. Re: Clusters; Plymouth Rockers and Addrisi Bros.; thanks; short ...
From: Austin Roberts
23. Name Game
From: Al Kooper
24. Re: Valiant/Charles Boyer
From: Howard
25. Zombies Give Kooper Credit
From: Tom Ordon
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 11:00:30 EST
From: AlFonts@aol.com
Subject: Re: NY session guys
Mike Rashkow wrote:
> Anyway, the point of it is, that as far as I knew then or know
> now, Doris was the first one who brought those guys into the
> NYC recording scene. I'd be interested in hearing from others
> about when they first saw them on sessions.
Uhhhhh. Ragavoy was always a Chuck Rainey guy, and VERY early on. If I am not
mistaken Cornell came in via King Curtis' live group. I'm pretty sure King
Curtis brought Dupree to NY originally. Richard Tee was at LEAST second
generation; Paul Griffin held the piano/organ chair until the collapse of his marriage
to Valerie Simpson, whereupon he dropped out for a year or so and others
filled the chair until his return. If you're not hip to Paul Griffin try the keys
on all the hit Chuck Jackson records, American Pie, piano on Like A Rolling
Stone, One Of Us Must Know, and uhh ... Twist & Shout by The Isley Bros.
I'm leaving out the Dionne Warwick records 'cause everyone thinks it's Burt B.
Al Kooper
Hysteric Historian
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 16:09:06 -0000
From: Laura Pinto
Subject: Ron Dante's Listening Booth
Hello, fellow Spectropoppers,
The incredibly talented and extremely handsome (I love flattering
him!) Ron Dante, late of The Archies, The Cuff Links and The
Detergents, composer, singer and producer extraordinaire, is lining
up a special feature exclusively for members of his official mailing
list.
Beginning within the next week or so, Ron will be presenting his very
own Listening Booth, which will feature Ron Dante rarities from the
60's and 70's ... recordings from as far back as 1964, many obscure
tracks -- and a few surprises as well. There will be two songs at a
time, and the songs will be changed approximately every other week
(this will give everyone a chance to access them), so Ron's fans can
be assured of hearing a minimum of four rare songs per month.
Depending on feedback from the fans, the number of songs offered at
any one time may be increased.
The link to the Listening Booth won't be posted on Ron's own site,
nor will I be posting it on my fan pages or on any Yahoo groups or
message boards -- this is strictly for mailing list subscribers. Members
will be notified when the Listening Booth goes online and whenever
the songs are changed as well. So, if you're not already a member
of the Official Ron Dante Mailing List, now's a great time to join! It's
right here on Yahoo Groups; here's the link:
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/RonDanteMailingList/
Hope to see a few Spectropoppers join us!
Thanks,
Laura
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 16:56:35 -0000
From: Julio Niño
Subject: A rainy afternoon with The Diplomats
Hola everybody.
Mark wrote about The Diplomats:
> "...If you haven't heard the Arock singles, you're in for a real
> treat..."
I've spent this rainy afternoon in Madrid listening to songs by The
Diplomats. What a great group they were. I love "There's Still A
Tomorrow", "Here's A Heart", and others, but maybe my favourite
(with " Can't Get You Off My Mind") is "He's Got You Now" (Arock
1004/B-side). It's a gorgeous song, as perfect and beautiful as a
good equation.
I've read that it was produced by Van McCoy but I don't know who
wrote it. Could anybody inform me please?
Thanks.
Julio Niño.
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 12:07:09 -0600
From: Dan Hughes
Subject: Re: Val. Day / Barry & Tamerlanes / "Mars Bonfire"
SuperOldies asks for songs with Valentine's Day references.
Two that spring immediately to mind are My Funny Valentine and Neil
Sedaka's Calendar Girl.
Country Paul asks,
> Barry & The T's had a definite hit (at least in may part of the world) with
> "Wonder...". (Not being a "chartist," maybe someone can come up
> with a Billboard number.
Certainly, Paul! It entered the Top 40 one week before JFK was assassinated,
and peaked at #21 around Christmas 1963.
Country Paul to Austin Roberts:
> Mars Bonfire is a neat name - but not a real one.
> John Kay told me what it really was once, but I've since forgotten.
Born Dennis McCrohan, in Oshawa, Ontario.
--Dan
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:55:42 EST
From: Matthew Kaplan
Subject: Re: Relic Records in Hackensack, NJ
While I have not gone to Relic Records often in recent years, back in 1989
and 1990 I went there on a weekly basis when I was clerking for a judge in the
Superior Court of NJ, down the street in Hackensack. This was a really specific
store, and if you were not into doo-wop and the like it just was not the place
for . I did find a great Billy Wright reissue called "Let's Go Crazy Crazy Baby".
Matthew Kaplan
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 08:50:47 EST
From: Mike Miller
Subject: Re: The Victorians, info needed
Hello Rob,
There were a number of groups that went by the name of
The Victorians. The one you are talking about in particular
had about 5 singles, I think. They had a nice vocal group
sound. I believe that the group was related to Charlie Calello,
the great arranger of many hit records. He was in a vocal group
in the late '50s after his short stint with the Four Lovers (who of
course eventually became the 4 Seasons). Later on this group
became known as The Victorians, and they recorded some real
gems. I have a few of the songs on CD. Send me your address and
I will send you what I have. Later on they recorded a single, also
for the Bang label, called "Wasn't the Summer Short" / "Merry Go
Round", both sides very good. This record in particular was
produced by Nick Massi, late of the 4 Seasons.
DooWopDaddy,
Mike Miller
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 14:53:31 -0500
From: Phil X. Milstein
Subject: Re: John Waters / Leg. St. C'boy / Relic Records / Never My Love
Al Kooper wrote:
> I worked on the movie "Cry Baby" and had dinner with John Waters
> one night. He revealed to me that he was NOT the selector of records
> for his movies; a close friend did the choosing. I lost a tiny bit
> of respect for him that night - I always thought his taste in music
> was part of his charisma.
Nonetheless, I assume he maintained veto power over the selections, and,
judging from things he's written about his musical tastes (i.e., a long
piece about dancing to The Booty Green with his friends in high school),
I imagine those soundtracks largely also reflect his own tastes. He is a
rocker at heart.
Mark Hill wrote:
> The Legendary Stardust Cowboy just made his appearance today.
> He was in a tall white cowboy hat and had yellow plastic chaps.
> Playing, "Paralized" and another tune. Dan and Dick didn't quite
> know what to make of him. It was quite unusual.
Flipside was "Who's Knocking At My Door." The drummer, in Comanche garb,
was T-Bone Burnett, who's claimed that his drumming on the original
single was the first time he'd played drums in his life!I believe the
Ledge still wears those chaps to this day.
> THE BANANA SPLITS was basically a Laugh-In clone anyway. (And both
> were on NBC to boot.)
Right, what with Ruth Buzzi, Arte Johnson and company constantly running
around in those full-body costumes and all.
Country Paul wrote:
> "Relic Records in Hackensack, NJ is closing its doors on
> April 1. Owner George Lavatelli will then continue to do
> business from his home. He's had the shop since the mid-
> seventies and it's demise was featured in an article in
> the The Record newspaper this week [the region's biggest
> daily paper].
Sad news, indeed! But, does this mean they'll be having a
going-out-of-business sale?
That A.G. wrote:
> While we are on the topic of how many performances some songs
> have enjoyed, the following songs have been played 7, nearing
> 8, million times:
incl.:
> "Never My Love"
I wonder if that's factoring in music-box plays ...
--Phil M.
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 14:07:04 -0500
From: Alan Zweig
Subject: Re: "Mars Bonfire"
Country Paul wrote:
> Austin Roberts, Mars Bonfire is a neat name -- but not a real one.
> John Kay told me what it really was once, but I've since forgotten.
Dennis Edmonson? Edmonton? Something like that. I'm pretty sure he
was the brother of Jerry, a guy in Steppenwolf.
I loved that one song of his. Was it called "Ride with me"? I do remember
that there was a short version and a long version and that finding that long
version was one of my holy grails as a teenager. Never did find it though.
AZ
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:39:54 -0500
From: Al Quaglieri
Subject: Re: Burt Bacharach & Hal David's first production
Mick Patrick wrote:
> For the record, the disc concerned is:
> The Rangoons "Moon Guitar" / "My Heart Is A Ball Of String"
> (Laurie 3096, June 1961). Both written by Burt Bacharach &
> Hal David, and produced by Bacharach & David.
I've uploaded "Moon Guitar" to musica.
Al Q.
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 11:15:45 -0700 (MST)
From: That Alan Gordon
Subject: I went looking for a jingle -- from clear cola to linguini to Barbra
Speaking of commercials! In the early '70s I got a call from a friend, who
asked me if I would be interested in writing a jingle for General Foods.
They were testing a new product called Brrr, the world's first clear cola.
I said yes, and a few days later I played the agency what I had come up with,
which went, "I went looking for a cola, a different kind of cola". They liked
it and paid me a few hundred bucks, but informed me they were not going
to put the product out.
A month after that I got a call asking me if I would be interested in writing
a spot for Ronzoni, who were introducing a new product called Country Kitchen
Egg Noodles. I came up with, "I went looking for a noodle" -- yep, the same song
I used for Brrr! I made the pitch to the ad agency, and they loved it. I insisted on
singing on the jingle -- that's where you make the money -- so I sang background
on the session.
Mr. Ronzoni was at the session, with his nephew. I couldn't stop staring at him
through the studio glass. I said to myself, "Look at this, here he is in the flesh:
Mr. Ronzoni". Boy, did he look great! I'll never forget what he was wearing. His
shoes were as black and polished as an Italian black olive. He was wearing a dark
blue pinstripe suit -- but wait, they weren't pinstipes but thin linguinis. His shirt
was an off-white parmesan-colored silk affair. His designer tie had little rigatonis
embroidered in silk, his golden tie clip was in the shape of an anchovie, and of course
he had a beautiful olive complexion. The more I looked at him, the hungier I got!
Toni Wine sang lead. When we stopped singing, we all went to the control room to
listen back. I got close to Mr. Ronzoni, and asked him, "How do you like it, Mr. Ronzoni?"
He forced a smile from his thin lips, then turned to his nephew and said something
about me. I overheard the word "chemanide". When I drove back to Brooklyn, I went
immediately to my butcher Jimmy, and asked him what that word meant. He started
to laugh and said, "DANCING FAIRY"!!!
Anyway the jingle ran for a few years. I later rewrote the song and called it "I Found
You Love", which Barbra Streisand recorded on her Superman album. And, oh yes,
the song started "I went looking for a new love", the same melody of course.
Best
That Alan
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 16:41:48 -0000
From: Fred Clemens
Subject: Re: An era ends: Relic Rack closing
I caught the Collecting Bug there, back in February of 1975. At that
time, Eddie Greise was the owner, along with Donn Filleti, but I
hardly ever saw them. Most of the early memories there were on
weekends, with the likes of Sal Passantino, Jim Hunt, and "Savoy".
All were tremendously helpful with the ins and outs of collecting
records.
I knew of Sal, recalling his name from a record I'd picked up from
Sam Goody's a year earlier by Denny-O, "The Trial Of The President",
a break-in (pun intended) based on the Nixon-Watergate scandal.
Denny, of course, was Dennis Ostrom (aka the Blue Sky Boys), whom I
met a few weeks later. Sal told me there were only 300 copies pressed
up of the record, and wondered how one copy found its way to the
Sam Goody racks. I had 4 (now 3) of them.
I was in awe the first time I walked in the store. There were old
jukeboxes for sale (I thought about it, but never got one), lined up
against the left wall as you'd walk in. To the right, there were
those legendary "wall records", the ones that could be had for $10-
$20-$30, and up. At that time, those were the pricey records. And
then there were those seemingly endless racks and racks and racks of
records! At first, I was only interested in the songs I'd be looking
for, based on a list I'd been compiling from listening to Gus Gossert
a couple of years earlier. I'd go for the original label if it wasn't
more than $3. If it was more than that, I'd settle for the re-issue.
But those restrictions were short-lived. On my first visit, I'd seen
a copy of "Lama Rama Ding Dong" by the Edsels on the Dub label
for the hefty sum of $30! That was way out of my league, so it was
out of the question, and I'd already spent over $100 on about 50
records. But after thinking about it when I got home, I made up
my mind to pick it up on my next visit (a week later). Owning one
"money record" shouldn't break me. I made the 45 minute trek the
following Saturday, with the Edsels record in mind, but when I got
there the record was gone!
>From then on, I decided to go with something when I saw it (if I had
the money on me). I gradually began to incorporate original first
pressings in my aquisitions, limiting the price tag to $10-$20.
Occasionally, a $30-$40 record would make it to the pile, but those
were very few and far between. In reality, a $20 record would be a
rare purchase.
In the span of 4 months, I'd spent about $100 a week average on
about 2,000 records. That basically broke me. My savings were
depleted, and my income was limited to my unemployment check,
of which, after expenses (room and board and gas money), I'd have
$10 left each week! (Hey, I was much younger then.) The record
purchases were coming out of my savings of 3 years. My first trek to
Relic actually happened AFTER I became unemployed. I stayed away for
a month or so until I got another job.
Clifton Music and Ronnie Italiano made their establishment a part
of my travels during this period. I would usually stop at Relic first,
and then hit Clifton on the way home. My purchases slowed down
considerably over the next few years, 'til about 1980 when I stopped
altogether. By then, I'd aquired about 4,000 to 5,000 45s (albums
weren't my thing), and my first serious girlfriend was taking priority
in my life.
One thing with collecting, I eventually got most of the stuff on my
list, so I started picking up doubles just so I wouldn't go home
empty-handed (I didn't want to waste a long trip). One of those
notorious doubles was the Cadets "Ring Chimes" on the Modern label,
for $7. Another was "Yes, Oh Baby Yes", by the Laddins on Grey
Cliff for $4. One time, and one time only, I picked up a $100 record,
if only for the satisfaction of having a $100 record in my collection.
The record was "Take Me Back To Baltimore" by the Monterrey
Quartette (I forget the label off-hand). Other more worthy $100
records weren't available at the time, so I settled on this one,
even though I never heard of it before.
One memory that sticks in my mind about Relic (to some degree) was
when Sal went to the back room (upstairs, I think) and brought out
the surviving label portion to the Five Sharps' "Stormy Weather".
This, I think, was the one that Slim Rose had broken years earlier,
and was currently in the possession of Eddie G. The asking price tag
for a copy of "Stormy Weather" (should one be found) was $500.
This was in 1975, and before another copy was found (after the Bim
Bam Boom release) and auctioned off for about $3,500.
Relic was a grand store in its day, what some older collectors would
think of Times Square Records 10-15 years earlier (I never got the
chance to visit TSR, since it had closed due to a fire by then). My
last visit there was around 1996. I picked up a few choice items
then, including Bonnie Jo Mason's (aka Cher) "Ringo, I Love You" for
$30. By then, I'd started hunting through local record conventions.
And then came the WWW...
Thanks to George, Jack, Dennis, Bruce ("Savoy"), Jim, Sal, and Eddie
and Donn, for making the Collecting Experience a great one. Though
it's been a few years since my last visit, I appreciate their being
there for Record Collectors everywhere. Without them, it wouldn't
have been the same ... or as much fun!
Fred Clemens
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 21:37:33 +0000
From: Simon White
Subject: Re: John Waters
Al Kooper wrote -
> I worked on the movie "Cry Baby" and had dinner with John Waters
> one night. He revealed to me that he was NOT the selector of records
> for his movies; a close friend did the choosing. I lost a tiny bit
> of respect for him that night - I always thought his taste in music
> was part of his charisma.
Hey Al !
Anyone who keeps a pencil moustache like Mr Walters does because "Little
Richard has one" gets my musical taste vote !
--
Simon
Holy Mackerel !
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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 14:17:27 -0500
From: Phil X. Milstein
Subject: Re: Hal 'n' Burt / Teenage Has-Been
Mick Patrick on Bacharach & David's first credited production:
> The Rangoons "Moon Guitar" / "My Heart Is A Ball Of String"
> (Laurie 3096, June 1961). Both written by Burt Bacharach &
> Hal David, and produced by Bacharach & David. The two songs
> are instrumentals, which, given that Hal David was a lyricist,
> renders me a little curious about the songwriting credits.
Mick, you've finally stumped us -- The Rangoons was WAY down on
my list of guesses. And your comment about the songwriting credits
reminds me to ask if anyone has any insight as to how much actual
production Hal might've done on those tracks for which he and Burt
shared production credit. My guess is that such notation was more
or less a courtesy to him, or perhaps even a business move, since
the two were marketing themselves as a team, but that's nothing
more than a shot in the dark. Do I underestimate the great
lyricist's extraverbal skills?
Paul Balser wrote:
> Yes Barry Mann did record "Teenage Has Been", flip of "Bless
> You" ABC 10380 (1962).
I'd love to hear that -- can anyone play it to musica?
--Phil M.
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 21:17:37 -0000
From: S'pop Projects
Subject: The Daughters Of Eve
New @ S'pop - The Daughters Of Eve
Attention girl group anoraks! Chicago's very own Daughters Of
Eve are the subject of the latest S'pop feature article. The
piece was put together by their drummer Debi Pomeroy and girl
group aficionado Mick Patrick. Take a look at this URL:
http://www.spectropop.com/DaughtersOfEve/index.htm
Enjoy,
The S'pop Team
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 22:00:24 -0000
From: S'pop Projects
Subject: Doris Troy
Dear Members,
A Doris Troy obituary has been added to the S'pop Remembers
section: http://www.spectropop.com/remembers/DTobit.htm
R.I.P.
The S'pop Team
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Message: 16
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 11:59:19 -0800 (PST)
From: Neb Rodgers
Subject: Beach Boy Brian makes fans 'Smile'
> Beach Boy Brian makes fans 'Smile'
> Saturday, February 21, 2004 Posted: 1507 GMT (11:07 PM HKT)
> LONDON, England (CNN) -- Former Beach Boys star Brian Wilson
> has received glowing reviews after performing his lost
> masterpiece "Smile" for the first time in public.
> The 61-year-old American, who worked for months on the album
> in the late 1960s but never released it, brought the house
> down at London's Royal Festival Hall Friday as the forgotten
> work received its world premiere.
> article continued here-
> http://edition.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/Music/02/21/wilson.smile/
Here's a review of Brian Wilson's live premier of 'Smile' in
London Friday night. They don't mention the song list in there,
but according to another website, this was the Smile set line up;
Our Prayer
Gee
Heroes & Villains
Do You Like Worms
Barnyard
Old Master Painter
You Are My Sunshine
Cabinessence
Wonderfull
Look
Child is father of the Man
Surf's Up
I'm in Great Shape
Workshop
Vegetables
Holiday
Wind Chimes
Mrs O'Leary's Cow/Fire
I Love To Say Dada
Good Vibrations
Encore
Hopefully he'll bring the show to the US soon!
- Neb
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Message: 17
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:06:22 -0000
From: Fred Clemens
Subject: Re: Johnny Cymbal discography
Rex Strother wrote:
> Calling all completists and perfectionists; I can really use
> your help. I've been building a discography of Johnny Cymbal
> performances and songwriting credits. But I put an "XXX"
> where I am missing information.
Rex,
The M-G-M releases date no later than as follows (when comparing
the numbers with close M-G-M releases that charted in Billboard):
12935 September, 1960
12978 October, 1960
Fred Clemens
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Message: 18
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 16:52:52 EST
From: John Berg
Subject: Re: Chad & Jeremy reissues
OK, S.J., given your connection to Chad and Jeremy, maybe
you could add some light on a live performance I saw them
give at the Shrine Exposition Hall (adjacent to the Shrine
Auditorium) in LA, circa 1968 or 1969.
At the time there was a strike on against Columbia Records,
and as I recall Chad and Jeremy performed as "CRUD" or maybe
it was "CRUM"? [Columbia Records Unemployed Musicians?]
The music was great, albeit definitely heavier than anything
I ever heard on record by C&J. I've always wished to have
something of this on disc. Any chance they actually recorded
anything?
John Berg
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Message: 19
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:52:25 EST
From: Al Kooper
Subject: Re: Children - Robert John
previously:
> Children - Robert John (Columbia 44639) Produced by Al Kooper!
> Like the cool phasing (?) at end.
Me:
> Would that be "Children In The Making"? I did not produce that.
I figured it out !!!!!!!
I DID produce a single on Columbia in '68 on the late great
Tim Rose. It was called "Long Haired Boy" and it did have cool
phasing at the end.......
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Message: 20
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 15:02:51 -0800 (PST)
From: Stewart Mason
Subject: Re: Ali Baba's Camel/LSD
Chris Schneider writes:
>Yes, but did you ever hear Bonzo Dog's version of
>"Ali Baba's Camel" (on "Tadpoles")? *Very* '60s,
>especially the into in which Stanshall (I believe)
>sings:
>"You've heard of Ali Baba?
>"Forty thieves had he;
>"After what we all want,
>"Lots of LSD ..."
>Somehow I don't think that the original author
>of "Me and My Girl", Noel Gay, had quite the
>same thing in mind ...
Not the same thing that you're thinking of when you
hear the initials LSD, but that is, I believe, Gay's
original lyrics to the song. To quote from the great
Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LSD
[click on link to LSD(disambiguation)]
"LSD was the abbreviation for the old British currency
units: pounds, shillings, and pence, from the Latin
librae, solidi, and denarii, prior to decimalisation.
Values were written like for example £12 10s. 6d.,
meaning twelve pounds, ten shillings, and sixpence. In
informal speech, "LSD" was often used to mean
"money"."
Noel Gay meant LSD, and so did Vivian Stanshall, and
given the fact that Viv's intoxicants of choice were
brandy and ale, they probably even meant the same
thing!
Stewart
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Message: 21
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 10:23:32 +1100
From: Jules Normington
Subject: Valiant, Addrisi Bros., girls...
Country Paul:
> I have the Plymouth Rockers' "Brown-Eyed Handsome Man" - a
> credible job for white guys! :-) The Addrissis started on Del-Fi
> - I don't know if "Cherrystone"/"Lilies Grow High" is their first,
> but it's a good'un. Jules, you mention girl groups> One of the
> finest one-shots is on Valiant, "I Still Love Him," by the Joys
> (and the instrumental track ont he flip); wonderfully Spectorian.
Me:
> a couple of killers by the Plymouth Rockers ("Don't Say
> Why" 's a fuzz-laden folkrock winner written by Don & Dick
> ...ummm.. the Addrissi Brothers that is...who I'm pretty sure
> started their OWN recording career on Valiant...correct me...
Jeez, for someone whose job involves researching music from the
60's I sure did a poor job on the Addrissi's with that suggestion
...one look in a couple of books I have here would have hooked me
up with the Del-Fi 45s and their "The Dance Is Over" on both Pom
Pom and Warner Bros., and at least the one 45 on Imperial way
before their Valiant years...I am embarrassed and humbled (.....
my therapist says I'm doing well and should be over it in a week or
two)...it would appear that "Cherrystone" is the first of at least
4 Del-Fi 45s from the info I have here.
Re Valiant girl group 45s: I do however know the Joys 45, C. Paul,
and it IS indeed a stunner....but there's a few I don't know that
sound like they could be great..Mick (anyone?)...how worthy are any
of these?:
#711 THE SWEETS - THE RICHEST GIRL / MAMA SAW ME (Felice Taylor, si?)
#718 THE FRANCETTES - I KNOW HIM WELL / WHAM (ummmm...the "Nothing
to write home about" group...?)
#727 MARCENE HARRIS - I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND / GUESS WHO
.....some of those titles just reek that innocent and angst-y
teen confusion that we swoop on so voraciously (in a song, I most
definitely mean).
Till soon...Jules
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Message: 22
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:29:14 EST
From: Austin Roberts
Subject: Re: Clusters; Plymouth Rockers and Addrisi Bros.; thanks; short ...
Country Paul:
> Austin Roberts, Mars Bonfire is a neat name - but not a real one.
> John Kay told me what it really was once, but I've since forgotten
Country Paul. If Mars Bonfire is a derivative, betcha can't
pronounce his real name.
AR
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Message: 23
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:44:45 EST
From: Al Kooper
Subject: Name Game
previously:
> Austin Roberts, Mars Bonfire is a neat name - but not
> a real one. John Kay told me what it really was once,
> but I've since forgotten.
Brute Force is Steve Friedlander
Tandyn Almer is Tandyn Almer
Al Kooper
The Name Game
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Message: 24
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 00:41:50 GMT
From: Howard
Subject: Re: Valiant/Charles Boyer
Hi Frank!
Regarding that Charles Boyer 45 on Valiant: you might say
that it was on his vanity label, as Boyer was one of the
owners of Four Star Television, which owned the Valiant
label at that time.
Best,
Mark
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Message: 25
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 13:47:21 -0000
From: Tom Ordon
Subject: Zombies Give Kooper Credit
Last night the Zombies played to a packed house at Antone's
in Austin and it was an amazing show. They are headed to the
west coast via Phoenix. They played a lot of songs from Odyssey
and Oracle and gave credit to Mr. Kooper for getting the album
released in the USA.
Don't miss their show. It was fantastic, and that boy,
Colin Blunstone, can sure sing!
Best regards,
Tom Ordon
Taylor, Texas
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