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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Girls Go Zonk!! CD
From: Joe Nelson
2. Re: Leaders Of The Pack CD
From: J Stewart
3. Re: The Covered Man and other masked rocknrollers
From: Phil X. Milstein
4. Re: Bee Gees' Odessa
From: Russell Prowse
5. Notice Otis / So Very Happy / Landlord, The
From: Al Kooper
6. now at musica: The Wabe / Basil Swift
From: Phil X. Milstein
7. Re: Bee Gees' Odessa
From: Mike Page
8. Growin' Up Too Fast CD
From: Stephanie
9. Re: Dick Clark & the "facts"
From: Phil X. Milstein
10. Four On The Floor
From: Al Kooper
11. Re: Admirations
From: Andy
12. Re: Robert Johnson goin' too fast?
From: Dave Heasman
13. Re: more Coke ads @ musica
From: Mike Rashkow
14. Re: Scott Walker signs to 4AD
From: Paul Bryant
15. Re: Motown cruise
From: Nichole
16. Re: Bob Feldman / Lidos
From: Phil X. Milstein
17. Bob Feldman, FGG & the Pin-Ups
From: Mick Patrick
18. Dotti Holmberg info
From: Nick Archer
19. Ron Dante / The Spirit
From: Laura Pinto
20. Ron Dante - Yoplait ad
From: Laura Pinto
21. Phil Spector Gold Star acetate
From: hiloth2002
22. Olympia Beer spot; Raindrops CD; Tom Adams' pix; interviews
From: Country Paul
23. "Tribute"; Barry & The Tamerlanes
From: Country Paul
24. Eric Records, Cha Cha, Vee, Ron Dante, Alan Gordon, etc!
From: Clark Besch
25. Re: Bee Gees' Odessa
From: Eddy
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 10:14:11 -0500
From: Joe Nelson
Subject: Re: Girls Go Zonk!! CD
Mikey:
> Can we get this in the States?
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00013MX74/qid%3D1078240343/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/102-0549573-3855351
Joe Nelson
Bomp has it!!
Scott Charbonneau
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 14:01:50 -0000
From: J Stewart
Subject: Re: Leaders Of The Pack CD
previously:
> Will this be released in the States?
I am sure that many people on this list will know about www.amazon.co.uk ,
www.streetsonline.co.uk, http://uk.towerrecords.com or other UK-orientated
websites. I assume that orders would be delivered to the US and elsewhere. I
certainly have ordered many CDs, DVDs and books from US websites when they
have not been released in the UK.
Incidentally, anyone in the UK ordering from US websites shouldn't have a
company address as the delivery address, as you will then probably have to
pay import duty.
J. Stewart
UK
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 11:59:50 +0000
From: Phil X. Milstein
Subject: Re: The Covered Man and other masked rocknrollers
Frank wrote:
> Thanks a lot for the link to Soul's website. I didnīt know that he
> was kind of a fixture on the Merv Griffin Show. Are there any
> chances to see him perform on it? Do the tapes still exist? That
> would be to good to be true.
I wouldn't hold out much hope -- clips from the Griffin show seem to be
pretty rare. And if Griffin himself -- who as producer of Jeopardy and
Wheel Of Fortune and the owner of several large casinos in Vegas and
Atlantic City, has gone on to become one of the wealthiest men in
American entertainment -- is sitting on a cache of them I don't see why
he hasn't started distributing any yet, as he's hardly getting any
younger. (You may recall that he started out as a band singer, with a
big hit with I've Got a Luvverly Bunch Of Coconuts.)
> Finally, does anyone know any other masked singers from the 60s? I
> remember one rockīnīroll guy disguised as a superhero but forgot
> his name. Would be fun to do a pre-KISS masked compilation.
Roctober magazine, from Chicago, has thoroughly documented the entire
history of "masked rocknroll," starting with one exhaustive feature a
few years ago followed by a succession of updates since then. Check 'em
out at http://www.roctober.com/roctober.
--Phil M.
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 12:21:48 -0500
From: Russell Prowse
Subject: Re: Bee Gees' Odessa
Jim Shannon wrote:
> Went back into the archives last night to listen one more time to
> the the Bee Gees' "Odessa". Some pop enthusiasts might consider
> it their "Sgt Pepper" LP, that would be a stretch. It is an
> interesting quasi-concept LP with seventeen songs on the "Velvet
> Red" album
This might help: http://www.geocities.com/bgsongs/albsingle.html
The song that did it for me and my crew was "Marley Purt Drive" -- pretty
country, tho I'm sure it got play on the early progressive FM station
hereabouts.
Russell Prowse
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 15:02:25 EST
From: Al Kooper
Subject: Notice Otis / So Very Happy / Landlord, The
A mess'a photos from '66 Europe with his full band all identified.
Pretty unique:
http://perso.club-internet.fr/jpp-product/photos_1966.htm
Clark Besch wrote:
> Hi, on my way to work ysterday, I heard an odd thing. Altho I'd
> not heard this before, our local AM station apparently has a one
> minute a day thing by Dick Clark where he comments on this day in
> music history. He started out playing "You've Made me so Very
> Happy" by Brenda Holloway and (heaven forbid we ever hear a full
> song these days!!) quickly segued into the comment that the song
> was given to Al Kooper's group Blood, Sweat & Tears who on this
> day in history released their version which went straight to the
> top! Kinda odd twist on facts there.
Let's twist again:
When I was in BS&T I wrote the arrangement of You Made Me So Very
Happy and performed it with the band. That's just one of the songs
David CT "inherited" when he joined the band. So Dick Clark's half-
right......
Frank wrote:
> I haven't seen the movie but your score sure is funky (and sometimes
> very trippy). Did the film acquire "black music"? It's a shame that
> Ashby died so young. He had what many Hollywood directors today lack:
> an artistic vision. BTW I saw that the album was recorded at Jerry Ragovoy's
> Hit Factory, in N.Y.C. Do you know how long the studio existed?
I wrote & produced 2 tracks for Lorraine Ellison for the film. I also produced
one with The Staple Singers and had the film acquire an existing Staples track.
As far as I know, there still is a Hit Factory although no longer helmed by Rags.
Al Kooper
The Fan-Lord
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 12:50:15 +0000
From: Phil X. Milstein
Subject: now at musica: The Wabe / Basil Swift
As a follow-up to our recent (albeit brief) discussion of John Simon,
including his work on the soundtrack to Peter Yarrow's You Are What You
Eat, I've played to a musica a really nice track Simon produced for that
album. Entitled "The Wabe," it is a musical setting of Lewis Carroll's
famous nonsense poem The Jabberwock. I neglected to check the writing
credit as I was transferring the piece (and wonder now whether it
included "Carroll," or perhaps his real name of "Dodgson"), but I'll be
happy to go back and look it up upon request.
Also unearthed in the same excavation session, and likewise now playing
at musica, was a dub I made from a friend's 45 of Basil Swift & The
Segrams (or perhaps "Seegrams") lovely cover version of Brian Wilson's
exquisite "Farmer's Daughter." B.S., of course, was aka Danny Hutton,
and the record a 1965 release on Mercury.
Dig,
--Phil M.
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 17:50:22 -0000
From: Mike Page
Subject: Re: Bee Gees' Odessa
Jim Shannon wrote:
> Went back into the archives last night to listen one more time to
> the the Bee Gees' "Odessa". Some pop enthusiasts might consider
> it their "Sgt Pepper" LP, that would be a stretch. It is an
> interesting quasi-concept LP with seventeen songs on the "Velvet
> Red" album.
I have the 'velvet red' album, and apart from a couple of instrumentals on
it, it is very good. I have always liked them, particularly their earlier
stuff, not such a fan of their 'disco' period. Barry and Robin have such
unique voices, and they always wrote great songs.
Mike Page
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 18:39:32 -0000
From: Stephanie
Subject: Growin' Up Too Fast CD
Previously:
> (Does the new "Leaders Of The Pack" double CD have) the same
> track listing as the "Growing Up Too Fast" set from the mid 90s?
Mikey:
> Even if it is, let's hope they severely upgrade the sound
> quality. The sound on that 1995 version was pretty abysmal.
The "Growin Up Too Fast" CD is probably one of the better girl group
CDs I have seen. Where else are you going to find "I Want That Boy"
by Sadina, a cult classic.
Steph
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 11:43:36 +0000
From: Phil X. Milstein
Subject: Re: Dick Clark & the "facts"
Clark Besch wrote:
> ... He started out playing "You've Made me so Very Happy" by
> Brenda Holloway and (heaven forbid we ever hear a full song these
> days!!) quickly segued into the comment that the song was given to Al
> Kooper's group Blood, Sweat & Tears who on this day in history
> released their version.
Was Brenda Holloway's version of YMMSOVH the original? I'm working up a
list, for aneventual compilation, of "surprising" original versions,
i.e. songs where a later version is generally thought to be the
original. I know we've discussed this topic on here from time to time,
but this might be a good opportunity for y'all to load me up with other
titles along these lines.
Clark continued:
> Funny, but later I was watching a tape of a Bandstand '68 show in
> which Dick played an interview answer made supposedly by Ringo (as
> Dick said, ("maybe you'll recognize Ringo's voice here") it was Ringo
> answering, when it was clearly Paul's voice. Dick is a legend, but
> he makes mistakes like all of us.
I think that at that level, with butchered clips programmed for the
masses, actual facts -- as opposed to factoids -- are not usually
considered to be of much importance. Sad, but that's usually the fact.
--Phil M.
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 14:49:23 EST
From: Al Kooper
Subject: Four On The Floor
Artie Wayne wrote:
> I put together a medley of Stone songs and told Lou that I
> had an idea for a concept record called "Tribute" that had a
> chorus of monks slowly singing "Paint it Black" in Latin.....
> while a Cello was playing the guitar riff from "Satisfaction"
> [which Brian Jones created]........evolving into an uptempo
> "Ruby Tuesday".......with a mixed chorale and most of the N.Y.
> Philharmonic Orchestra!!
I have an embrassing Stones tribute tale to tell. A bunch of us
were playing on scads of LA disco records: Jeff Baxter, Jai
Winding, Neil Stubenhaus, etc. and I sold Casablanca on the idea
of us doing our own disco album. So I hooked up all my synths
and wrote bizarre arrangements featuring all my gangs talents
and we did strictly cover tunes with disco arrangements: Any Day
Now, Gypsy Woman, There Goes My Baby, on one side and on the
other side.......move over, Artie Wayne.......The Glimmer Twins
Medley - a whole continuous side of Stones tunes at 120 BPM!
Paint It Black (in English) Lady Jane, Lets Spend The Night,
Under My Thumb, etc. The album was called Four On The Floor and
I think thats how many people bought it. Okay. I know some of
YOU have it, but this is the only place people would fess up to it.
(Red-faced) Al Kooper
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 20:57:14 -0000
From: Andy
Subject: Re: Admirations
Country Paul asked:
> Is this the same Admirations who did the beautiful "The Bells of
> Rosa Rita" on Mercury (1959)?
Yes, the same group. They recorded "Closer to the Aisle" for Mercury
in 1961.
Andy
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 23:07:04 -0000
From: Dave Heasman
Subject: Re: Robert Johnson goin' too fast?
Guy Lawrence wrote:
> There's a guy with a website with audio samples who reckons
> that most of the Robert Johnson recordings were speeded up.
Guy asked this, and it struck me that several others might want to try it.
It came up immediately in Google:
http://www.touched.co.uk/press/rjnote.html
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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 21:54:09 EST
From: Mike Rashkow
Subject: Re: more Coke ads @ musica
Thank you for this good promo. I'll forward it to Coke.
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 05:42:56 -0800 (PST)
From: Paul Bryant
Subject: Re: Scott Walker signs to 4AD
Neb Rodgers wrote:
> Scott Walker signs to 4AD...
> http://www.nme.com/news/107686.htm
"Tilt" is one of the all-time weirdest albums.
pb
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 22:30:35 -0000
From: Nichole
Subject: Re: Motown cruise
Stephanie wrote:
> For those of you who are interested in going on a Motown cruise in
> November or asking any questions about Motown you can e-mail
> Weldon McDougal.
Will Motown artists, particularly from the '60s, be on the cruise?
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 16:55:38 +0000
From: Phil X. Milstein
Subject: Re: Bob Feldman / Lidos
Tom Adams wrote:
> I've been in frequent contact with Bob Feldman (he used to live
> here in Boulder, CO), and have been forwarding him the recent posts
> concerning his work (both alone and as a member of the FGG team).
> He would love to contribute, but he's not yet up to speed with
> computers, email and the like. Eventually I think I'll be able to
> get him to join the group, but for now he's rather do it this way.
Welcome, Tom. I'd like to ask Bob if he ever released a "Roots Of SOB,
Vol. 1." I have vol. 2, which seems rare enough, but have never seen a
trace of vol. 1. If it never was released, the follow-up q. of course
would be why not.
> Web Site: http://www.bouldercool.com
Which specializes in rarely-seen photos of all manner of Spectropop
favorites. An excellent site, and well worth the visit.
By the way, Tom, do you know anything about The Lidos, a super-crude
(c.f., "Last Time That I Saw Her") '60s garage band that I believe was
from Boulder?
--Phil M.
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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 19:50:39 -0000
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Bob Feldman, FGG & the Pin-Ups
Tom Adams wrote:
> I've been in frequent contact with Bob Feldman (he used to live
> here in Boulder, CO), and have been forwarding him the recent
> posts concerning his work (both alone and as a member of the FGG
> team). He would love to contribute... SO.. Feel free to post any
> greetings, messages, questions or comments regarding his work,
> and I'll make sure he reads them all.
Hi Tom,
It'd be great if you could ask Bob for the story behind one of his
lesser-known creations:
The Pin-Ups "Lookin' For Boys" (Stork 1, 1964)
I understand it was a "We could take any three broads off any street
corner and make a hit record with 'em. So take a hike, troublesome
Angels" type scenario. But that story has the whiff of apocrypha
about it. "Lookin' For Boys" might not have been a hit record, but
it sure was a good one. Who were these girls? Does Bob have a photo
of the group he could share with us?
Hey la,
Mick Patrick
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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 23:14:19 -0000
From: Nick Archer
Subject: Dotti Holmberg info
My friend Byron Warner of Status Cymbal fame traded emails last
summer with Dotti Holmberg. They played clubs together on the
Georgia/South Carolina coast in the 60's. Byron has given me
permission to post excerpts on Spectropop if there's interest,
so let me know.
Nick Archer
Check out Nashville's classic radio station SM95 online at
http://www.live365.com/stations/nikarcher
Dotti also has a site with album and book news:
http://www.kidbiz.com/profile-dottie/profile.htm
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Message: 19
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 00:49:37 -0000
From: Laura Pinto
Subject: Ron Dante / The Spirit
Bob Rashkow wrote:
> Ron Dante, I was listening to The Spirit on Roulette earlier
> today. You co-wrote a great, great song called "No Time To Rhyme"
> in approximately 1967? I've always loved this record, at least as
> much as I love the group of the same name with Jay Ferguson, Mark
> Andes et al.
Hello,
I placed a bid on eBay for this very record a couple of weeks ago but
was outbid. It sold for $40.00. Sounds like I missed out on a great
45!
Laura
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Message: 20
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 00:55:14 -0000
From: Laura Pinto
Subject: Ron Dante - Yoplait ad
Hi fellow Spectropoppers,
Most of you Ron Dante fans out there probably know that Ron's is the
voice you're hearing in the TV commercials for Yoplait yogurt here in
the States. Yes, that's Ron singing "Itsy Bitsy Teenie Weenie Yellow
Polka Dot Bikini."
When the commercial first aired last year, I commented to Ron that it
was a coincidence he recorded that particular song for the commercial,
as "...Bikini" was written by Paul Vance and Lee Pockriss, who went
on a few years afterward to write and produce all those great songs
Ron recorded with The Detergents and, a few years after THAT, the Cuff
Links.
Talk about coming full circle!
Laura
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Message: 21
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 02:47:17 -0000
From: hiloth2002
Subject: Phil Spector Gold Star acetate
Anyone seen an acetate like this before?
http://tinyurl.com/32wys
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Message: 22
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 00:26:01 -0500
From: Country Paul
Subject: Olympia Beer spot; Raindrops CD; Tom Adams' pix; interviews
Bob Celli:
> I have a demo by Sonny Curtis of an ad that he wrote for Olympia Beer.
Very nice - better than some of the songs I've been hearing latetly! :-)
Clark Besch:
> I won't pick on Collectibles too much, as without them I wouldn't have
> some great music at all.
I just got the Raindrops CD on Collectibles - $6.98! 20 tracks, including
some great lesser-known ones. My current new/old fave: "Let's Go Together" -
"Do You Wanna Dance" re-written sideways, with Barry's incredible bass and
some nifty rhythmic turns.
Tom Adams, I look forward to Bob Feldman's posts; thanks for facilitating.
Also, your photos at your website http://www.bouldercool.com are very cool.
In particular, the early Jefferson Airplane shot (page 1) is amazing - geez,
they were *kids*! Plus a real picture of Tico & The Triumphs (page 4), and
the young and hoody-looking Leon Russell on Page 6! Quite an amazing
collection. Where *did* you get these?
Phil M., great stuff from Hit Parader - but how do you increase the size
enough to read? And Bob Celli, if you can indeed scan the Jerry Naylor
interview, I'd be delighted to read it. Perhaps you could post it to the
files section of the S'pop site.
Country Paul
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Message: 23
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 00:36:58 -0500
From: Country Paul
Subject: "Tribute"; Barry & The Tamerlanes
I'll second the request for Artie Wayne posting "Tribute" if he can
dig it up!
Mikey, Re: "I Wonder What She's Doing Tonight":
> While I like the Barry and the Tamerlanes version, I don't like
> the way it's produced. It should have had a nice 4/4/ rock beat,
> ala "Blue Moon". Just when you think it's gonna take off, it
> stays on the ground.
Gee, are we listening to the same record? My beef is the double-time
at the fade, but otherwise, I think this is a true pop gem of prime
magnitude. But that's just my opinion - and, like noses, everyone has
one!
No one's yet taken me up on playing songs I can send on tape to
musica (translating analog to digital)....
Country Paul
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Message: 24
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 06:46:29 -0000
From: Clark Besch
Subject: Eric Records, Cha Cha, Vee, Ron Dante, Alan Gordon, etc!
Hi, a few items of interest. Eric Records now has their first 2
volumes of "Teen Time" listed on their website. Some new to Cd songs
and new stereo on Cd for mostly hard to find early 60's charted
songs. Also coming from Norton is a Cha Cha Records compilation.
Those Chicago rock fans may know of some of the good tracks that
label put out in the 60's. Norton is also putting out 3 volumns of
Ft Worth garage rock! Is that possible?? Meanwhile, Sundazed has 3
volumes of garage rock from one year--1966! What ideas!!
While listening to an old aircheck of my buddy, Dusty Rhodes, from
WLW in 1986, a couple of things caught my attention. Dusty started
at WSAI Cincy in 1961. Not sure if he was on the first day WSAI went
Top 40, but in my aircheck, he says the first Top 40 song he played
on WSAI was Bobby Vee's "Take Good Care of My Baby"! Another thing
that got me thinking was when he played "Stars on 45". It made me
wonder what Ron Dante thought when this 45 went gold with "Sugar,
Sugar" leading into an all Beatles medley? How wierd is that idea?--
and yet it was a huge hit!
For Alan Gordon, in the fantastic "Four to Go" Magicians documentary,
I felt like you were a script consultant to Tom Hanks for "That Thing
You Do!". Just like "Sticks" in the movie, the Magicians are
recording a song in the studio and you want to play it faster just as
the movie's title track was treated by the drummer in the show. What
did you think when you saw that? Ironic, ain't it??? Clark
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Message: 25
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 08:54:39 +0100
From: Eddy
Subject: Re: Bee Gees' Odessa
Jim,
Can't find any trace of Melody Fair being released on a single in
the UK. But it was the main tune in the 1971 movie Melody and was
in that context released as a single in Japan. It had a still from
the movie on the picture sleeve.
Eddy
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