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There are 20 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Paley Brothers
From: alfienoakes101
2. Blackberry Way, King Croesus and one of the best girl group records ever made.
From: Al Kooper
3. Carole King & Toni Stern's "Look Down"
From: Michael
4. Lou Adler discovers P.F. Sloan
From: Dan Hughes
5. Re: Kenny O'Dell to Musica
From: Joe Nelson
6. Paley Brothers
From: Richard Williams
7. Meeting Hayley Mills
From: Ronnie A.
8. Good Time Girl - Message For Alan Gordon
From: Mike Dugo
9. Re: Midnight Cowboy -- vocal versions?
From: Phil X. Milstein
10. Re: Jerry Mathers / "Surprising" original versions
From: Fred Clemens
11. Beaver & the Trappers
From: Rat Pfink
12. Re: Tim Rose
From: Bill George
13. Zonk; Eye; "A Rose" & Al Kooper
From: Country Paul
14. Re: Good & Plenty
From: S.J. Dibai
15. Re: Eye magazine
From: Al Kooper
16. Marvin Gaye's "Here My Dear"
From: Al Kooper
17. Re: Arkade - Sloan & Barri
From: Austin Roberts
18. Jackie DeShannon @ Atlantic
From: Bill George
19. The Arkade on TV
From: Austin Roberts
20. Re: Tony Rossini & Donna Weiss
From: Austin Roberts
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 13:11:26 -0000
From: alfienoakes101
Subject: Re: Paley Brothers
Could you confirm that this is the same Andy Paley who has
collaborated with Brian Wilson since the recording of his first
solo album in the late 80's? I believe that it was also released
on Sire.
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 10:45:33 EST
From: Al Kooper
Subject: Blackberry Way, King Croesus and one of the best girl group records ever made.
Art Longmire:
> ...for instance, "Jack" by World of Oz (an English soft-psych group)
> is a nice tune, although I like the flip side, "King Croesus", even
> more.
Eddy:
> At least on the Eastern side of the Pond, King Croesus was the A-side.
> Not a huge hit, but big enough for me to buy the 45 at the time.
Et tu Eddy & Art. I'm a Croesus guy myself.
Dan:
> Also, I remember one issue wherein our very own Al Kooper listed his
> ten favorite albums, and one of them was an Elektra album of Gregorian
> chants! Do you still listen to that one, Al?
Revisionism, revisionism, revisionism. It's Music of Bulgaria which is
far from Gregorian Chants. If one has never heard this early 60's
Nonesuch release, I uneqivocably reccomend it as one of the best girl
group records ever made.
> Tom Northcott did a version of Blackberry Way on his Uni lp. I
> always felt the song was cousin to Waterloo Sunset and Penny Lane/
> Strawberry Fields.
If anything, it's a lawsuit cousin to "My Old Desk" (Harry Nilsson)
which is quoted musically in the middle of the Move record ("ooo-wa,
ooo-wah, etc).
Al "keepin' it honest" Kooper
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 14:02:47 -0000
From: Michael
Subject: Carole King & Toni Stern's "Look Down"
A question: There's a Carole King/Toni Stern song called "Look Down"
that the Monkees recorded in 1968 or so, though their version wasn't
released until 1996 on the third volume of their 'Missing Links.'
Anyway, I like this song, and I'm wondering if anyone knows of any
other artists recording it.
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 09:54:44 -0600
From: Dan Hughes
Subject: Lou Adler discovers P.F. Sloan
Found this Lou Adler quote on a website, explaining how he turned surfer
P.F. Sloan into a Dylan clone:
LOU ADLER:
I'd heard the first Dylan album with electrified instruments. This is
strange, but it's really true: I gave Phil Sloan a pair of boots and a
hat and a copy of the Dylan album, and a week later he came back with ten
songs, including "Eve of Destruction." It was a natural feel for him -
he's a great mimic.
Anyway I was afraid of the song. I didn't know if we could get it played
(on the radio). But the next night I went to Ciro's, where the Byrds were
playing. It was the beginning of the freak period.... there was this
subculture that no one in L.A. knew about, not even me, and it was
growing. The Byrds were the leaders of the cult, and the place was
jam-packed, spilling out on to the street.
ln the middle of it was this guy in furs, with long hair, and dancing; I
thought he looked like a leader of a movement. Terry Melcher told me that
he was Barry McGuire, and that he'd sung with the New Christy Minstrels.
A week later we cut the record and it sold six million.
I didn't think it was a copy of anything. It was the first rock'n'roll
protest song and Sloan laid it down in very simple terms, not like the
folk people were doing. If you listen to the song today, it holds up all
the way - it's the same problems. It's certainly an honest feeling, from
a 16 year old.
Melody Maker, Feb 5, 1972, p. 43.
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 11:48:57 -0500
From: Joe Nelson
Subject: Re: Kenny O'Dell to Musica
Bob Celli:
> The only time I ever heard this song was on the flip side of a Bobby
> Vee 45 from the same time period Woman In My Life/No Obligations.
Is this the same "Woman In My Life" as the Arkade single?
Joe Nelson
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 17:00:36 +0000
From: Richard Williams
Subject: Paley Brothers
The first time I became aware of Andy Paley was during his time
with a band called the Sidewinders, whose 1972 RCA album was
produced by Richard Robinson and contained a bona fide classic
called "Rendezvous" (not the Springsteen song, but just as
irresistible). Anyone who sees it in a bargain bin can safely
invest.
Richard Williams
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 04:37:58 EST
From: Ronnie A.
Subject: Meeting Hayley Mills
This past Saturday, two days ago, I had the pleasure of spending
several face-toi-face minutes with one of my favorite actress/
singers of the 60s: the legendary Hayley Mills.
The occasion was an autograph/memorabilia show held at the Crown
Plaza Hotel in Secaucus, NJ.
Hayley is a very warm and gracious and simply wonderful lady and
was so outgoing and friendly to the hundreds of fans who came to
see her.
When I made a true confession to her -- that I ADORE her recording
of "Johnny Jingo" (her follow-up to her 1961 top-ten smash "Let's
Get Together") she looked at me in mock-horror and then said "I
thought you were a man of TASTE!"
(We both cracked up after she said that!)
If you are a fan of Hayley and get a chance to meet her at a
similar event any time in the future (though I am not sure how
often she does them) I definitely recommend you GO FOR IT!
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 18:38:49 -0000
From: Mike Dugo
Subject: Good Time Girl - Message For Alan Gordon
Alan,
Freddy Fortune, a friend of mine, has an acetate of a song titled
"Good Time Girl", written by you and Ritchie Adams. It was recorded
at Allgreo Sound Studios in New York, and Koppelman & Rubin are also
referenced on the label.
Do you recall this song? It's very Beau Brummel-ish. Do you know
who recorded it? Any information will be appreciated. Thanks.
Mike Dugo
60sgaragebands.com
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 18:03:51 +0000
From: Phil X. Milstein
Subject: Re: Midnight Cowboy -- vocal versions?
Frank wrote:
> Johnny Mathis did a version. Unfortunately my copy is very
> scratched. But if thereŽs demand IŽll put it on musica.
Is it available on CD? If not, please do!
--Phil M.
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 00:22:23 -0000
From: Fred Clemens
Subject: Re: Jerry Mathers / "Surprising" original versions
Speaking of originals, on the Jerry Mathers tune mentioned, "Wind Up
Toy", the original on that was about a year earlier on the Carlton
label by Tony Richards, who is actually Tony Passalaqua from the
Fascinators and currently of the Legends Of Doo Wop.
Fred Clemens
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 19:59:19 -0500
From: Rat Pfink
Subject: Beaver & the Trappers
James Botticelli wrote:
> One of the Beaver & The Trappers singles made it to one of the
> early Pebbles compilations from '79 or '80.
Actually none of their stuff was on any of the Pebbles comps.
"Happiness Is Havin'" *was* on Boulders #10 as well as the
Hipsville 29 BC compilation.
RP
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 22:49:16 EST
From: Bill George
Subject: Re: Tim Rose
Al Kooper writes:
> I DID produce a single on Columbia in '68 on the late great
> Tim Rose. It was called "Long Haired Boy" and it did have cool
> phasing at the end.......
Gee almost a month behind now. Whew! Al, how was it to work with
Tim Rose? I played a gig with him in England a couple years ago.
Really nice guy and great songwriter and guitarist. I'm ashamed
to say I knew almost nothing about him at the time. Since then
I've come to respect him alot. Too bad he left us too early.
Bill
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 23:18:11 -0500
From: Country Paul
Subject: Zonk; Eye; "A Rose" & Al Kooper
Previously:
> "Girls Go Zonk!!", is the latest addition to the S'pop Recommends
> section: http://www.spectropop.com/recommends/
If for no other reason, worth it to have the transcendent call-and-
response of "Where's My Baby" by the Twilettes. And the long version
of "Tar and Cement" is a definite plus (never heard it, so I guess I
oughta go buy this baby.) Nice work yet again, Mick!
Dan Hughes:
> Like fantastic full-sized posters! Wasn't it Eye that had that
> great Peter Max painting of a paisley Dylan?
So that's where it came from! (Must've been - never bought Cheetah.)
(Or was it maybe Cheetah?)
To Al Kooper, I was checking out a wonderful John D. Loudermilk
wensite Phil Milstein turned me on to, and noticed you did his song
- and George Hamilton IV's classic hit - "A Rose and a Baby Ruth."
Never heard your version; is it still in print - or can you post it
to musica at some point, please?
Country Paul
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 23:00:49 -0000
From: S.J. Dibai
Subject: Re: Good & Plenty
Steve Fuji wrote:
> Is this album on the Senate label, with a song called "Living
> In a World of Make-Believe?" This song, as a single, came out
> in late 1967 and made the KHJ Boss 30 in Los Angeles. It sounds
> like a male-female duo. The artist is listed as "Good N Plenty."
> I bought this single in December 1967 and have never been able
> to find out anything more about it.
Alright, we're getting somewhere! This LP is on the Senate label,
with "Living In A World Of Make Believe" closing out side A. The
track was written and produced by Wes Farell and Tony Romeo--now
that I think about it, could that mean this was a New York-based
act, or at least that they recorded there?
Thanks for the info on the single--what, pray tell, was the B-side?
S.J. Dibai
P.S. If you like that single--seek out the album!
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 20:15:06 EST
From: Al Kooper
Subject: Re: Eye magazine
I had a big layout in Eye magazine promoting my first solo album.
Columbia Records paid for one of those flexi-disks in that issue
and I talked and played cuts from the album. As part of the solo
scheme, the print piece was called Al Kooper interviews Al Kooper
which I actually DIDN'T write!. The bad thing was I shared the
issue and the disk with the "new" BS&T who consistently bad-
mouthed me in their print piece. Those were the daze, my friends.
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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 20:19:56 EST
From: Al Kooper
Subject: Marvin Gaye's "Here My Dear"
If any of you have never heard the track "Anna's Song" from Here
My Dear, you must. There is one of those moments in there that
should have been addressed in the spine-tingling song thread.
About 2/3 through the track he sings her name 3X in a row and the
third time is seriously soul-piercing !!! It is the climax of the
record. Highly reccomended.
Al "I'm not Gaye" Kooper
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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 22:48:13 EST
From: Austin Roberts
Subject: Re: Arkade - Sloan & Barri
Hey Chuck,
Steve talked about Phil with a lot of affection. I don't remember
anything specific. We always had a ball with Steve in the studio
and I learned quite a bit about how to deal with players and
singers in the studio which has helped me throughout my career.
Steve Barri was a class act. I had a lot of fun with Price and
Walsh, the other two in the Arkade.
Best to you, Austin Roberts
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Message: 18
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 23:05:50 EST
From: Bill George
Subject: Jackie DeShannon @ Atlantic
Mick Patrick writes:
> Last year I inherited some books from a deceased friend;
> Atlantic Records, A Discography by Michel Ruppli, a four
> volume set published by Greenwood Press in 1979.
Mick, is there any info in that book about Jackie DeShannon's
1973 Atlantic sessions? I'm talking about the tracks that were
unreleased until last year when Rhino added them onto her
"Jackie" CD. They were recorded in LA, but the Cd compilers
didn't have any info on who played them, or even who wrote one
of the songs.
Bill
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Message: 19
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 23:37:04 EST
From: Austin Roberts
Subject: The Arkade on TV
Steve:
> I also recall seeing it performed on TV, probably on "Boss City",
> which was one of the shows produced by 93/KHJ. Do you recall
> doing such an appearance
Hi Steve,
We did Boss City and Bandstand and a couple of other TV shows in
the LA and San Francisco areas with Arkade. The Morning Of Our Lives
was top 15 on the AC charts and got a lot of airplay later as the
Bridal Fair theme song.
Steve Barri liked the fact that Price and Walsh and I were writing
songs for other acts, but made sure we passed them by him first, to
see if they were right for us.
Best, Austin Roberts
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Message: 20
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 23:56:07 EST
From: Austin Roberts
Subject: Re: Tony Rossini & Donna Weiss
Peter:
> Julio asked about Tony Rossini. Up until recently Tony had his own
> website under the name of Rossini Entertainment. It seems to have
> disapppeared now, but it told of his later career, which included a
> spell with Toni and Terri & The Pirates in the mid-60s, recording,
> for the Monument label, such gems as a cover of the Beatles' "For
> No One" (Monument 979). The interesting part for me was that Terri
> was an early incarnation of the songwriter Donna Weiss, who wrote
> songs in the '70s with Jackie DeShannon, including "Bette Davis
> Eyes".
As I reach back into what's left of my memory, I think Tony was
singing with Donna Weiss in LA. I wrote a bit with Donna way back
when. What a great talent, writing and singing. I think she was on at
least one of the Joe Cocker tours (probably Mad Dogs And Englishmen).
As I remember, Tony was a terriffic singer.
Many moons and brain cells ago.
Best, Austin Roberts
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