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There are 13 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Teen Queens; Good & Plenty; Bernie Schwartz; a discography find
From: Country Paul
2. Al Caiola
From: Kingsley Abbott
3. the Greats of Rock 'N Roll ... Jann Wenner?
From: C. Ponti
4. Dream Boy, vol. 1-3
From: Mikey
5. Re: Bernie Schwartz
From: Gary Myers
6. Re: The Canaries.
From: Austin Roberts
7. Re: Cameo-Parkway and ABKCO
From: Billy G Spradlin
8. when they're 64 / Tim Rose song / Bernie Schwartes / Babbity Babbity
From: Phil X. Milstein
9. the death of Shindig
From: Freeman Carmack
10. Re: Al Caiola -- "Concrete And Clay" guitarist
From: Dan Hughes
11. Re: Cameo-Parkway and ABKCO
From: Bill
12. Re: The Teen Queens
From: Phil Hall
13. an invitation / JDS on AmDreams / Tim Rose
From: Bill George
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 17:00:24 -0500
From: Country Paul
Subject: Teen Queens; Good & Plenty; Bernie Schwartz; a discography find
Mick Patrick wrote:
> Information regarding the Teen Queens CD is available here:
> http://216.15.202.119/cgi-bin/SearchCatNo.asp?lngID=183670
> and here: http://216.15.202.119/MoreInfo/CDCHD581.html
Sad tale; it explains why I've only heard the one song (but I admit to not
delving too deeply into their ouevre).
S.J. Dibai, re the Good & Plenty:
> I found my mono cutout copy for five bucks at a funky little store
> in West Philly two weeks ago, and it's in pretty good shape.
I don't remember the music, but I remember the album cover; at the time, we
were kinda "ultra hip" and this was considered "plastic hippie" music. I'd
be curious to see what a listen with fresh ears would now sound like.
S.J. again:
> I also saw an article (from Goldmine, I believe, but I might be
> wrong about that) in which Allen B. Klein's son Jody was saying
> that ABKCO has been waiting to put out the C-P stuff because
> they've been trying to develop the technology to do the most
> amazing C-P reissues ever and the technology has taken several
> years to develop.
>From what I remember in general, most C-P stuff wasn't all that well
recorded in the first place -- not atrocious, certainly not great. (Or maybe
it was just the sandpaper they were pressed on.) So get 'em out there
already, before we can't afford to buy them on our Social Security checks!
Ed Rambeau:
> The guitarist on Concrete and Clay was Al Caiola (not sure
> of the spelling of his last name....). He has a few albums of
> his own that are available. He's quite a famous guitarist.
I think he was also a UA artist; was it he who had the instrumental hit on
the theme from "The Magnificent Seven".
Scott:
> Bernie Schwartz has a great (if obscure) LP as well -- The Wheel.
> Think the two guys from Euphoria played on it.
Gary Myers:
> Schwartz' first record was on Tide as Don Atello. I covered him to some
> extent in a story I did on the Tide label for Goldmine many years ago.
> I had a very enjoyable with him for the story.
Thanks for the reply, guys. Scott, I have "The Wheel" (CoBurt 1001, dist.
MGM). I mentioned this album back in December, 2001, commenting on
the harsh sound of the release. There may have been a bad batch of pressings,
or bad mixing, but something sure undermined the music. There's a nice
ballad on it called "Peace on Earth," which was used in the awful movie
"The Magic Garden of Stanley Sweetheart," a hippie-era cash-in best
remembered for being Don Johnson's first starring vehicle (if I'm
not mistaken). There's also a great rocker, "Follow Me," with some
very innovative wordplay in the lyrics. Schwartz also was in The
Comfortable Chair (on Ode); my copy of the album has walked
away, but I have a 45, the B-side of which, "Some Soon, Some Day,"
is haunting and has some sparkling harmony. (If the above is a rehash
of something I wrote recently, please forgive me; it may have been in
off-list correspondence.) Gary, in what issue of Goldmine was your article,
please?
DISCOGRAPHY RESOURCE ALERT: A companion Yahoo discussion
group, the Hillbilly List, has in its files some wonderful singles
discographies, not just limited to their chosen topic. Labels I've opened
include Cadence and Jamie; there are more, some of which wouldn't
open at the moment. But pursuing this might be worth your while:
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/hillbilly/files/ . You may need to
join the list to view them.
Country Paul
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 10:37:40 -0000
From: Kingsley Abbott
Subject: Al Caiola
Ed Rambeau wrote:
> The guitarist on Concrete and Clay was Al Caiola (not sure
> of the spelling of his last name so I spelled it phonetically).
> He has a few albums of his own that are available. He's quite
> a famous guitarist.
Spelling correct! Al was indeed a very good guitarist, probably
at his best with jazzy stuff. He worked in NY and Nashville most,
and lived in NJ. Made lot of 'theme' albums, a few of which are
of interet to S'Pop:
One called 'Greasy Kid Stuff' (UA 3287) which included 'South
Street', 'He's So Fine' 'Our Day Will Come', 'Charms', 'Rhythm
Of The Rain', etc. -- a hits of '63 collection
One called 'All Strung Out' put out as the Caiola Combo (a four-piece
including Grady Tate on drums), which gives a new summery take
on the title number and adds other cool jazzy takes on songs like
'Misty' and 'Cherry Cherry'.
There must have been at least two dozen albums, probably many
more -- some small group, some with other session guys (i.e., Nashville),
some with full orchestra. Pretty well always classy, well-played
material, though the covers didn't cause the art departments any
overtime!
Kingsley Abbott
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 04:43:56 -0000
From: C. Ponti
Subject: the Greats of Rock 'N Roll ... Jann Wenner?
I think what little credibility the R & R Hall of Fame had has been
further compromised by inducting Jann Wenner. Everyone who has
been part of the ceremony knows it's a vanity project of Lorne Michaels
and a few other ill-informed types. At least Phil Spector helped show
them who was deserving, though I always felt his involvement lessened
even his formidable cred. I can just imagine Jann saying "This year I
think we should induct ... me!"
C
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 20:53:25 -0500
From: Mikey
Subject: Dream Boy, vol. 1-3
Can anyone hip me as to where I can get the three volumes of the "Dream
Boy" series of CDs?
thanks,
Mikey
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 19:28:56 -0800
From: Gary Myers
Subject: Re: Bernie Schwartz
Here is a Bernie Schwartz discography, which I compiled around 1989:
45s:
Tide 1099: She'll Break Your Heart / Forever Please Be Mine /63
Tide 2002: Questions I Can't Answer / It Isn't Right /64
(both above as by Don Atello)
Warner Brothers 5651: Baby Bye-Oh / Something's Wrong 8/65
Warner Brothers 5867: Her Name Is Melody / I Go To Sleep (Adrian Pride)
11/66
Ode 109: Be Me / Some Soon, Some Day 5/68
Ode 112: I'll See You / Now 11/6
(both above as by Comfortable Chair)
LPs:
Ode 44005: Comfortable Chair /68
Coburt 1001: The Wheel (three tracks)
MGM 1 ST-20ST: The Magic Garden Of Stanley Sweetheart (one track)
10/70
as songwriter:
Orange Empire 500: Take A Look In The Mirror / Close Your Mind
(East Side Kids) 1/67
Showplace 216: Never See The Good In Me / Sleeping Minds
Showplace 217: We Got A Love In The Makin' / (flip is remake of Jezebel)
(both above by Yellow Payges) 2/67
MGM 13815: Children Ask / She Is The Color Of Love (Power) 10/67
notes:
Baby Bye Oh wr. Sheely-DeShannon, co-pr. Phil Everly, harmony vocal by Everly
Something's Wrong wr. Phil Everly
I Go To Sleep wr. Ray Davies
Comfortable Chair pr. Robbie Krieger & John Densmore
Gary Myers
MusicGem: http://home.earthlink.net/~gem777/
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 23:15:54 EST
From: Austin Roberts
Subject: Re: The Canaries.
Steve Jarrell wrote:
> I remember a group called the Canaries. I was playing in Virginia
> Beach at the time at Seaside Amusement Park. They hired The Canaries
> to play the summer of '64. It not all the local groups that
> performed there out of work. Austin Roberts may remember this, he
> was there. As for records, I don't know.
I remember The Canaries, since I was in a horn-beach-soul group and
watched at least half of the clubs in Va. Beach and around start hiring
British pop groups. Pissed off a lot of us in the VA, NC, SC areas.
Although I must admit I was a huge Beatles fan.
Austin R
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 11:37:56 -0000
From: Billy G Spradlin
Subject: Re: Cameo-Parkway and ABKCO
previously:
> I also saw an article (from Goldmine, I
> believe, but I might be wrong about that) in which Allen B. Klein's
> son Jody was saying that ABKCO has been waiting to put out the C-P
> stuff because they've been trying to develop the technology to do
> the most amazing C-P reissues ever and the technology has taken
> several years to develop. I don't believe that, but that's what he
> said.
The new Rolling Stones re-issues were all SCAD/DSD "hybrid" CDs,
which I have never bought before, nor understand the technology
behind. Are they supposed to sound better played on a another kind of
playback unit? Which kind? I played them on my DVD and they played
back as a regular audio CD. Someone please explain this to me, thanks.
Still ABKCO's explanation for the holdup sounds like a lame excuse
to me. The technology for a proper remastering project was available
over 10 years ago. No kind of digital remastering or DVD storage
wizardry is gonna make "Lets Twist Again" sound better.
I would like to see a nice big 4-CD box covering all of Cameo/
Parkway's biggest hits and some rarities, then some separate CDs
for the label's most popular artists (Chubby, Bobby, Dee Dee,
Orlons, ? & The Mysterians), and then maybe some compilations
featuring Doo-Wop, Teen Idols, '60s Dance Craze, Girl Groups, and
Garage Bands.
Billy
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 13:03:51 -0500
From: Phil X. Milstein
Subject: when they're 64 / Tim Rose song / Bernie Schwartes / Babbity Babbity
It occurred to me recently that this is the year in which the Beatles,
those of them that remain with us, will start turning 64. Ringo's 64th
birthday comes up on July 7; John's would've been Oct. 9; Paul is two
years behind them and George a year behind him. I remember that in
the first-ever book of Beatles illustrated lyrics, accompanying "When
I'm 64" was an artist's fantasy version of what the boys would look like
in 2004. It was a sobering thing to see back when they were still in their
mid-30s, but now that that time is indeed upon us I'm curious to revisit
that illustration, to see how accurate the artist may've been. If
anyone's got that book (I only skimmed through it at a store), perhaps
they could scan in the drawing in question and post it for us. By July
7, if not sooner.
Paul Bryant forwarded Nick Barks' review of a Tim Rose gig:
> "This is the best new song I've heard by anyone in a
> decade. I find out later from the man it's called
> 'Tigers in Cages.' He wrote it last year and it's
> unreleased. Anyone walking in mid-song would have
> thought this was an encore.
The writer's got me eager to hear this song. Anyone know if it was ever
recorded?
Scott wrote:
> Bernie Schwartz has a great (if obscure) LP as well -- The Wheel. Think
> the two guys from Euphoria played on it.
And he was excellent in Sweet Smell Of Success, Spartacus, Some Like
It Hot ...
Mick Patrick wrote:
> Babbity Blue "Don't Hurt Me" (UK Decca F.12149, 1965). Written by
> Spencer and Cooper. Music Director: Reg Guest. Production: Mike
> Smith.
Ah, but what, or who, was a "Babbity Blue"?
--Phil M.
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 18:28:37 -0000
From: Freeman Carmack
Subject: the death of Shindig
I agree with Mr Rambeau re the death of Shindig.
Look at Hulllabaloo. They'd include an unhip sop to the "oldsters" as an
attempt to lure parents and, in the process, I think alienated the kids,
who (myself included), were there for the cool music and to look at our
idols.
I remember being embarrassed in '64-65 seeing Michael Landon singing
"I Like it Like That" and trying to keep up with the Hulllabaloo dancers.
Shindig had that West Coast Cool about the whole show and early on
never seemed to get in the way of the music. Even the fella who served
as MC was cool, in a mid-'60s kinda way, and it always served the
music -- didn't take away from it.
Other music shows, ie Where The Action Is, also succeeded on its own
musical and cultural merits. We'd race home everyday after school in
'65-'67 to catch the music, the locations, and the look of WTAI. Some of
my fondest adult WTAI re-memories -- the Robbs doing "Race With The
Wind", and Tommy Roe performing "It's Now Winter's Day", not to
mention all of the wonderful zaniness of Paul Revere & The Raiders.
Memories, I might add, stimulated by discussions on this here group;
thanks.
Freeman Carmack
Worthington, OH
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 07:27:39 -0600
From: Dan Hughes
Subject: Re: Al Caiola -- "Concrete And Clay" guitarist
Mac asks,
> Is this the same Al Caiola that did "Theme from the Magnificent 7",
> aka "The Theme from Marlboro Country"? I have him also doing the
> "Theme from Bonanza".
No Mac, not the same guy. There are actually seven different Al Caiolas,
hard to tell apart because their styles are so similar. The one who did
Magnificent 7 uses a thicker guitar pick than the one who did the Bonanza
theme, so if you listen carefully you can detect the more "stable" sound
of the thick-pick-using Caiola. Also, he has more hair. (The other five
are inconsequential -- lots of bar shows but no recordings of note).
Glad to help.
--Dan, feeling especially silly and revisionist today
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 08:40:15 EST
From: Bill
Subject: Re: Cameo-Parkway and ABKCO
Herb,
Sequel Records here in the UK put out in 1994 a CD of 5 Stairsteps tracks
that started with You Waited Too Long. They are quoted as original Buddah
recordings.
Cheers,
Bill
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 02:09:36 -0000
From: Phil Hall
Subject: Re: The Teen Queens
Tony Leong wrote:
> I've read that both members have died -- I think Betty in 1968,
> and Rosie a bit later. The cause was drugs I believe. Tragic!!!!
Thanks, Tony. I'd probably learn a lot of this stuff reading the
liner notes, but my budget doesn't allow me to buy everything I want.
BTW, I caught the picture of you with Reparata (Mary Aiese) on
another site. Are you still in contact with her, and how's she doing?
Phil H.
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 10:14:01 EST
From: Bill George
Subject: an invitation / JDS on AmDreams / Tim Rose
To any Spectropoppers in the NYC area who might be interested in
something off the Spectropop path (WAY off!) I would like to invite
you to a concert I am giving next Sunday night:
New Music New York presents
William George, tenor
Francisco Roldan, guitarist
An evening of music for voice and guitar
A Tribute to Peter Pears & Julian Bream
Benjamin Britten -- Songs From the Chinese
Priaulx Rainier -- Ubunzima & Dance of the Rain
Lennox Berkeley -- Theme & Variations
Michael Tippett -- Songs For Achilles
Plus music by Bach, Bettinelli, Carter, Dowland, George, Rodrigo
Sunday, March 28, 2004, 7pm, $10
The French Church of Saint-Esprit
111 E. 60th Street (between Park & Lexington Avenues)
for more information, call (718) 728-7936
or email NewMusicNewYork@aol.com
Clark wrote:
> I'm wondering if Bill George and others saw someone
> impersonating Jackie DeShannon singing "When You Walk
> in the Room" on "American Dreams" this week?
Yes, I saw it. It is the first time I've seen the program, and I can't say it
held my interest. I just waited for Liz Phair to appear as Jackie. I thought she
did a good job, although they hardly gave her any screen time. When I first
heard about it, I thought Phair was a poor choice, but she turned out to be
pretty good. Apparently, she chose the song/artist to portray, and Jackie was
there at the studio while they filmed. Anyway, a pretty good promo for Jackie.
Paul wrote:
> Hey, Bill -- it might have been this one! A review of a
> Tim Rose gig in the UK from a couple of years ago, by
> a fiend of mine.
Yep, that was the one. I was playing there a couple nights later, and Tim
asked if I would do a couple of songs during his set to give him a rest. It was
actually my first time playing solo guitar (I am NOT a guitarist), but it was a
thrill to be asked to share his stage for a few minutes. He was an amazing
performer.
Bill
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