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There are 16 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Gary Myers and the Portraits
From: Gary Myers
2. Re: His Name Is Jack ... well, technically John/Reprise's LOSS LEADER album
From: C. Ponti
3. Re: John Simon
From: mrdrdave
4. Re: Browning Bryant, revised
From: Gary Myers
5. Re: "Selfish One" and more intros
From: James Botticelli
6. Ed Rambeau thanks John Grecco for the terrific bio.
From: Ed Rambeau
7. UK Oriole / Dream Babes 5 / etc
From: Alan V. Karr
8. "Take A Girl Like You"
From: Sean
9. On Any Sunday - Soundtrack?
From: Sean
10. Flip Cartridge etc
From: Martin Roberts
11. varied & miscellaneous
From: Phil X. Milstein
12. Re: The Paul Simon Songbook
From: Steve Harvey
13. Re: Lou Adler discovers P.F. Sloan
From: Karen Andrew
14. Re: Reparata & the Delrons
From: Ray
15. Re: Early Bob Seger on Cameo
From: Mike McKay
16. Re: The Wonder of Ray Peterson
From: ACJ
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 21:40:01 -0800
From: Gary Myers
Subject: Re: Gary Myers and the Portraits
Martin Roberts:
> ... "Over The Rainbow" (on Sidewalk). I've got this 45 and what a
> fun record it is ...
I love it!
> ... it is now playing in musica
How do I find that?
> B-side "Runaround Girl"...
That side was written by our guitarist, John Rondell, and we still
keep in touch.
> The label credits The Portraits featuring Jerry Tauney -- is he the
> same as Jerry Tawney, who had a 45 or two on Liberty?
Yes, Jerry actually had quite a few releases on Bell and other labels
after leaving the Portraits. The Liberty 45 came before he joined our
band. In fact, it was Clancy Grass who put us together. Jerry also
later wrote with Jerry Fuller. I have a discog, if interested.
> ... did you work on any other records for Sidewalk (and its sister
> (?) label Uptown)?
I never knew those two were connected.
The Portraits had a previous 45 on Sidewalk (Let's Tell The World/A
Million To One), and we had single tracks on two ST LP's. We also did
some unreleased stuff, and I played drums on two cuts by the Mystic
Astrologic Crystal Band on Carole (Curb's sister), who were also
managed by Clancy.
> ...delightfully named Harley Hatcher
I knew Harley a little from around the offices.
Thanks very much for your post, Martin.
Gary Myers / MusicGem
http://home.earthlink.net/~gem777/
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 17:44:47 -0000
From: C. Ponti
Subject: Re: His Name Is Jack ... well, technically John/Reprise's LOSS LEADER album
Phil X. Milstein wrote:
> Since my copy of the You Are What You Eat soundtrack was still
> playing about, I decided to play another track from it, one which
> I thought y'all would dig, to musica. You can now find there John
> Simon's original version of "My Name Is Jack." So, dig already!
Phil, Remember Simon's "The Elves' Song"? I used to play the LOSS
LEADER album from Reprise alot and it was so marvelously odd.I also
remember the Jimmy Webb sing, "Has Anyone Seen PF Sloan?" was on it.
Many of the artists, Van Dyke Parks most conspicuously, were hurt by
being on that album. Reprise also did that weird ad for VDP sniping
at how much was spent on budget for SONG CYCLE. Peter Gallway,
represented elsewhere on Spectropop as one of The Strangers in
the "Emily's Illness" article, was on that album in his Ohio Knox
incarnation. Ask me anything!
C. Ponti
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 18:35:24 -0000
From: mrdrdave
Subject: Re: John Simon
> Since my copy of the You Are What You Eat soundtrack ...
> John Simon's original version of "My Name Is Jack."
What a cool song. Thanks for putting it in musica, it's going right
to the top of the playlist.
I think the first song I heard by John Simon was "The Elves' Song" on
one of those Warner Loss Leaders albums in the early 70's. Another
cool song. I heard "My Name Is Jack" a few years later somehow, not
on the soundtrack as such, possibly on some UK import various artist
compilation. I was pleased to find the "You Are What You Eat"
soundtrack on CD a few years ago. So, I finally got a copy of "My
Name Is Jack", and there's a quantity of other bizarre and
interesting music on there, too!
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 10:47:17 -0800
From: Gary Myers
Subject: Re: Browning Bryant, revised
Previously:
> Googling Browning Bryant, I have learned he was born in Pickens, SC,
> was a child movie star, and is still recording to some degree.
Bryant recorded a cover of "It's A Beautiful Day" (c&w chart single for
Wynn Stewart), which was written by Tracy Pendarvis, about whom I also
did a Goldmine story (4/3/92).
BTW, Phil Milstein suggested that I mention my own research in here. I
thought I did that in my reply to his post, but I haven't seen it, so if
this is a repeat, please pardon my indulgence: I'm the author of "Do You
Hear That Beat - Wisconsin Pop/Rock in the 50's & 60's", and I'm still
researching that field. More info on my (very basic) website.
Gary Myers / MusicGem
http://home.earthlink.net/~gem777/
gem
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 15:26:25 -0500
From: James Botticelli
Subject: Re: "Selfish One" and more intros
Billy Paul's "Me & Mrs Jones" quotes "Once I Had A Secret Love" in the intro
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 21:11:52 -0000
From: Ed Rambeau
Subject: Ed Rambeau thanks John Grecco for the terrific bio.
I was recently interviewed by a gentlemen who is a fellow
Spectropopper named John Grecco and he has just informed me that he
has a new website where he has written a sensational and rather
thorough bio on me. The website is also beautifully put together, so
congratulations on that, John. For those interested, just go to
www.redbirdent.com and click on the rather youthful (LOL) pic of me
on the top left side of the homepage. That will take you to the bio.
Also, the SHINDIG shows from 1965 as well as the tribute to Diane
Renay at the old-time radio convention can now be viewed by going to
my website at www.edrambeau.com. I'd like to thank my web designer
Rosemarie for her assistance is putting that all together.
In addition, many of you have already joined JUKEBOX RAMBEAU but for
those of you who haven't you can now join by clicking on the "Join
The Fan Club" link at www.edrambeau.com and on the bottom of the fan
club link page you can join the JUKEBOX and receive a free MP3 daily.
Sincerely, Ed Rambeau
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 21:17:24 -0000
From: Alan V. Karr
Subject: UK Oriole / Dream Babes 5 / etc
More Misc comments:
1) Columbia UK was in fact the British arm of the American
Columbia Graphophone record company-as mentioned this
became part of EMI, and US Columbia released its product
in the UK through EMI through 1952, when for a number of
reasons it broke away and licensed its product through
Philips. This 2nd agreement (which resulted in Frankie
Vaughan and Marty Wilde product being released in the US)
lasted until 1962. CBS-Columbia bought the UK independent
Oriole/Embassy in late 1964 which quickly became the
wholly owned (vs custom label) UK CBS.
Question for Mark Wirtz or anyone else:
For whatever reason, almost no Beat-era UK Oriole/CBS product
has been reissued by Sony. Some collectors have speculated that
Oriole wiped their pre-CBS master tapes. Also Oriole & UK
CBS made a lot of lease deals that might be hard to untangle
but a few items have come to light occasionally. Youd figure
since Sundazed has an "in" with Sony Legacy something might
turn up but nothing. Any thoughts?
2) In a Discoveries piece Andrew Oldham claime to have completed
work on a C-P box but has contempt for the content. I've also
heard anecdotally in a situation reminiscent of the Who/Talmy
case that the original owners held the tapes, ABKCO holds the
copyrights and no one is settling. Like C-P, ABKCO also said the
Stones stuff was going to be reissued for years then the CDS
really did come out. So what/who the heck can we believe.
3) While I can't say the Guess Who's version of Shakin' All Over
is the definitive one, it certainly was the US hit and the break
is 1 of the most muscular drumming exhibitions pre-hard rock you'd
hear on disc.
4) Dream Babes 5:
Aside from the previously unreleased tracks why is there no
discography references for the RPM Dream Girls Vol. 5. Could
someone let us know the original UK release information?
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 22:31:58 -0000
From: Sean
Subject: "Take A Girl Like You"
Hello,
Does any know where I can find a copy of the 1970 Soundtrack LP to
the film "Take A Girl Like You"?
Thanks,
Sean
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 22:32:39 -0000
From: Sean
Subject: On Any Sunday - Soundtrack?
Hello
I saw the 1971 documetrary film all about motorcycle racing late
last night, and was wondering if this was ever released as a
soundtrack? And if yes, where can I find it on CD? LP?
It's very groovy and very reminisent of our Mark Wirtz Mood Mosaic
stuff! :)
Thanks,
Sean
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 22:51:05 -0000
From: Martin Roberts
Subject: Flip Cartridge etc
In reply to Simon's query Austin replied:
> Everybody probably knows, knowing this Spectropop bunch, but Flip
> Cartridge was also Flip of Skip and Flip (Cherry Pie and It Was I),
> as well as the lead vocal on the Hollywood Argyles doing Alley Oop
> and probably on other stuff. His name, of course, is Gary Paxton,
> who is a trip to write with. What a talent!
Well I sure didn't! Thanks Austin. A few questions remain...
Like Simon I know "Dear Mrs Applebee" by Flip on UK London and assumed
it was a cover of the aptly named Marie Applebee's, debut 45 produced
by the Jerome Brothers on Jubilee. Also for Jubilee The Jeromes
produced Renee St. Clair. I can't recall if these girls identies have
been confirmed. Any ideas Austin?
Country Paul added another query, Flips cover of "That's What Sends Men
To the Bowery". This must have been released about the same time as the
Jerome Bros. production of the song for Reperatra/Delrons on Kapp. Were
you promoting songs from coast to coast Austin?
And where any of your and Gary Paxton's songs recorded?
Martin
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 18:37:23 +0000
From: Phil X. Milstein
Subject: varied & miscellaneous
Clearing out the in-box of my mind:
* Just getting around to listening to Julio Niño's musica posting of
"Tengo Un Nuevo Angel," by Ana Belen, which he termed (and here I
paraphrase), "a sweet song to help ease these difficult times in
Madrid." Sweet it indeed is, and most charming, and I hope it helps
fulfill Julio's wish. I especially enjoyed the guitar solo, and wonder
if he can instruct us on who might've plucked it.
* I believe it was Mick who played Babbity Blue's "Don't Hurt Me" for
us. Wow! What a delight. Am I mistaken in believing the "Don't Hurt Me"
girl also had a number called "Don't Make Me"? Don't tell me these two
so similarly-named songs were the two sides of her one record! Even if
you can't tell me that, perhaps you can tell me a little more about this
Blue lady called Babbity.
* I've long been aware of the fact that Aretha Franklin is from Detroit.
But it only recently occurred to me to think of Aretha's Detroit in the
same mental breath as the Detroit of Motown Records. Once so doing,
however, I had to stop and wonder how it is that she didn't wind up
recording for them. I'm sure her music would've come out very
different if she had, and so I don't mourn the fact that this
combination never (?) came to pass. And yet the confluences of time,
place and talents make it seem like she would've been a natural signing
for them. So, how not?
* I'm looking for track suggestions or other input on a new compilation
I've got on simmer, of reggae covers of relatively tepid U.S. or UK pop
tunes. Examples include Take Me Home Country Roads, Red Red Wine and
Pied Piper. Tentative title: Can A Rastaman Sing The Whites?
* If The Monkees had indeed tackled Sugar Sugar when it was offered to
them, which Monkee do you suppose would've taken the "I'm gonna make
your life so sweet" line?
* If, according to Don McLean, "the music died" one day in 1959, then
what does he call what the hell it is that he's doing?
* I recently reread the Mary Wilson interview residing in the Files
section, and urge anyone who's missed it thus far to take a moment and
look it over next chance they get. The questions are thoughtful and
provocative, and Miss Wilson's answers are generous and elequent, and
offer clear and unequivocal statements in support of such issues as fake
groups and America's inability to adequately honor its elder stars. I
doubt she's thinking of herself in regard to the latter issue, but I
sure do hope that as she approaches her own senior years her country
shows her the full level of its affection, as she truly has earned it.
Her website, at http://www.marywilson.com, typically lends as much space
to links to sites for her fellow artists as it does promote anything
about her.
Country Paul wrote:
> I have a 45 by him, "That's What Sends Men To The Bowery;" his identity
> remains a mystery, but I rather like the track - almost too cute to be
> as poignant as it is.
A number also recorded by Reparata & The School-Marms, I mean Del-Rons.
Is "Flip Cartridge"'s version in the same faux-vaude style as
Reparata's? That '67-'68 trend thrilled me when I was a pre-adolescent
and it was new, but at this point my patience for it is pretty thin.
Sebastian Fonzeus wrote:
> Of interest to members of this list regarding The Hep Stars might
> be their unsuccessful 1968 LP "It's Been A Long Long Time" on the
> Cupol label as it includes several Curt Boettcher, Gary Alexander
> and Sandy Salisbury penned tunes otherwise better known as recorded
> by Milennium/Ballroom/Sagittarius. So the Hep Stars or someone in
> their "inner circle" obviously had good taste ...
Carl Magnus Palm's excellent 2002 Abba bio, "Bright Lights, Dark
Shadows," addresses this issue. Palm relates that Felle Fernholm, the
Hep Stars' "sixth member" and quasi-manager, connected in early 1967 with
Steve Clark, the CFO of Boettcher's production company. But Clark and
Boettcher split with one another shortly afterward, over Boettcher's
belief that Clark was jobbing him on the company's revenues, and Clark
took the reins for The Hep Stars' studio sessions, which took place in
London in November and December. After causing the band to sack three of
its members, he presented remaining Hep Stars Benny Andersson and
singer/teeniebop magnet Svenne Hedlund with a list of songs they could
select from, most of which were Boettcher titles (of which the reader is
left to assume Clark retained a share of the publishing). Although prior
to signing them Clark had tempted the band with suggestions that their
sound was just the thing the American market was hungering for, once the
recordings were complete, as Hedlund told Palm, "I don't think very much
was really done to get the album released over there. ... In reality
they only wanted to jump on our bandwagon [i.e. popularity back home],
since it was likely the album would sell a hell of a lot in Scandinavia."
That's rocknroll,
--Phil M.
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 18:16:05 -0800 (PST)
From: Steve Harvey
Subject: Re: The Paul Simon Songbook
You have never heard anything about the reissue until
now because it just came out. It's never been reissued
before.
The girl on the cover is Beverly Martyn, later married
to Brit folkie, John Martyn. She had a record out on
Deram under her own name. It's her voice you hear in
the middle of "Fakin' It".
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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 18:42:25 -0800 (PST)
From: Karen Andrew
Subject: Re: Lou Adler discovers P.F. Sloan
Dan, thanks for the background on the "Eve of Destruction", which
is one of my favorite protest songs. Adler said: "If you listen to
the song today, it holds up all the way - it's the same problems."
Isn't that interesting - we can say the same for 2003 too! What a
song!
KA
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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 03:10:12 -0000
From: Ray
Subject: Re: Reparata & the Delrons
Austin...Tony...and Phil
Just a short update on Reparata. I am a longtime friend of hers. I
spoke to her just a few weeks ago. We try to keep in touch on a
monthly basis. Tony's right, she is no longer performing. She gave
it up just a few years ago. She is living in Neponsit, Queens...
close to the beach. I've been attempting to keep her up to date with
all of the message board chatter that has taken place on this board
in the last year or so. She is literally amazed that people outside
of nyc even remember her name. A few months ago, I copied and
printed some of the interesting posts and gave them to her in a large
folder. As she read it, her eyes widened with every comment. She was
especially happy to see that her favorite recording "I'm Nobody's Baby
Now" has received some praise. It's the one record that she is the most
proud of.
It surprised me to hear her say that up until the recent CD release of
"Magicial Musical History Tour", she did not have a copy of "Nobody's
Baby" or many of her other releases. My own collection of her many
releases is much larger than hers, but still not nearly complete.
She was also very pleased with Mick Patrick's article on the group in
the Cha Cha Charming website.
Mary (Reparata) promises me that she will soon get on board with the
rest of the world and start to get on the internet. She is an extremely
funny person with a lot of stories to tell and would be a great asset
to this site. At least that's what I keep telling her. So, I hope you'll
soon be hearing from her directly.
Austin, I'll be sure to mention your name the next time I speak to her.
Tony, good to hear from you again.
Ray
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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 23:24:09 EST
From: Mike McKay
Subject: Re: Early Bob Seger on Cameo
Clark wrote:
> Watched Bob Seger get inducted into the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame last
> week on VH1. Sad to say that due to Allan Klein, his true rock n
> roll best is still unavailable. You think that Capitol stuff was
> good? You ain't heard Bob Seger rock for real until you hear the
> Cameo (Hideout originally) stuff!! That's what I want to hear first
> from these vaults. makes sense with the induction so recent.
Clark, you can get the early Seger stuff on a CD entitled "The Best of
Hideout" from Sabre Disc. A friend of mine got it as a present for her
boyfriend this past Christmas, so I can testify that it does exist. I
don't know anything of the legalities involved -- perhaps someone
associated with Hideout retained the rights to this stuff despite it
later appearing on Cameo/Cameo Parkway.
Anyway, the address for ordering this CD can be found at the bottom of
this page (following an interview with someone who was in on the ground
floor of the Hideout Club, which spawned the record label):
http://www.psychotronic.info/ioam/hideout_records.htm
By the way, I certainly agree with you about the excellence of the early
Seger stuff. I never much cared for him after "2 + 2 == ?" and "Ramblin'
Gamblin' Man," but the earlier "Persecution Smith" and "Heavy Music, parts
1 and 2" are both excellent. And the best of all is "East Side Story" --
which has been at the top of my urban punk hit parade for many, many years
now.
Mike
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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 23:39:53 -0500 (EST)
From: ACJ
Subject: Re: The Wonder of Ray Peterson
Well, I'm glad to see some others besides me (namely, Country Paul and
Gary Myers) prefer Ray Peterson's "Wonder of You" to Elvis's! No offense
against The King, of course, but I'm surrounded by Elvis-worshippers,
and I hear Elvis's "Wonder" quite often, and think "Oh, if you'd only
hear..."
And Gary Myers - welcome to S'pop! I'm surprised you weren't here
already! (To others: Gary is the author of a splendid book about
Wisconsin rock acts and their records, and he's been a big help to me
in my "U.P. Grooves!" project.)
ACJ
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