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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Johnny Preston in Stereo
From: Clark Besch
2. Re: Cliff Richard "No True Lovin'"
From: Clark Besch
3. Re: Sunny & the Sunliners "Talk To Me"
From: Joe Nelson
4. Re: Frank's bottom
From: Rodney Rawlings
5. fave rex by obscure g.g.s
From: Phil X. Milstein
6. Re: Chartbusters' "She's The One"
From: Craig Davison
7. Re: Del-Satins
From: Fred Clemens
8. Where to find the music
From: Mike Edwards
9. CDs on Eric Records
From: Mike Edwards
10. Zombies radio interview
From: Norm D.
11. Musica - I CAN HELP
From: S.J. Dibai
12. Bobby Rydell Scopitone Question
From: Bob Celli
13. Re: Shangri-Las help!
From: Peter
14. Re: Del-Satins
From: Mac Joseph
15. Re: Solomon Burke
From: Stephane Rebeschini
16. Bobby & Laurie (Bright & Allen) Every Second Day at musica
From: Lyn
17. Al Kooper
From: Kim Cooper
18. Beach Boys Stereo
From: Billy G. Texas
19. Re: Del-Satins & Linda Laurie
From: Gary Myers
20. New Brian Wilson studio album in June
From: bryan
21. Re: Bobby & Laurie (Bright & Allen) Every Second Day at musica
From: Lyn
22. Re: Bobby & Laurie (Bright & Allen) Every Second Day at musica
From: Scott Charbonneau
23. Re: fave rex by obscure g.g.s
From: Country Paul
24. Re: Chartbusters' "She's The One"
From: Country Paul
25. Re: Where to find the music
From: Country Paul
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 05:01:07 -0000
From: Clark Besch
Subject: Re: Johnny Preston in Stereo
Fred, My sincere apologies! You are right! It was "Cardle of Love"
that I had bought that was rechannelled. I already had "Feel So
Fine" in stereo, but not from the stereo 45. Loved both records as
a kid. Thanks for straightening that out! Clark
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 05:16:20 -0000
From: Clark Besch
Subject: Re: Cliff Richard "No True Lovin'"
Me:
> ...Cliff Richard's "True True Lovin'" was the B-side of his 1963/4
> US hit "Bachelor Boy", on Epic, and in the UK was matched with
> "Constantly", on Columbia 7272 in '64... Can anyone tell me if
> this has ever been in stereo, or is on CD in UK? I've yet to find
> it either way and that is a real shame!
Ray:
> (It's on) Rock On With Cliff Volume 2, EMI MID 44 (Stereo) (1981)
Cool Ray! Now I gotta track that Lp down, I guess. Do you know that
the song is definitely in STEREO? Thanks again, Clark
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 11:46:56 -0400
From: Joe Nelson
Subject: Re: Sunny & the Sunliners "Talk To Me"
Billy G. Spradlin:
> I'm looking for another rare oldie -- Sunny & The Sunliners/"Talk To
> Me", which hit #11 in 1963. A great record, but I've never been able
> to find it on CD. Someone at a record store in Tyler, TX told me
> there are CDs available with the song, but most are re-recordings.
I'm no authority on this, but that seems to be one of our famous
missing masters. I know this turned up on a Collectables comp a while
back, but the source was probably vinyl.
Joe Nelson
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 16:06:51 -0000
From: Rodney Rawlings
Subject: Re: Frank's bottom
Glad to hear that Sinatra may not have been contemning DOWNTOWN,
which I consider to be one of the finest songs I've ever heard.
Nevertheless, Frank is known to have indicated on vinyl his disdain
for one of his less-favorite songs. On STRANGERS IN THE NIGHT, his
much-noted "do-be-do-be-do" (also puzzled over by Dean Martin while
lip-synching on his hilarious TV show) was according to Frank a way
of poking fun at the song. I guess he found it repetitive or
montonous? He was surprised by its popularity.
No matter! I think it is another very great song and he was
instrumental in my falling in love with it.
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 12:15:45 +0000
From: Phil X. Milstein
Subject: fave rex by obscure g.g.s
I suddenly got curious to hear some of your opinions on favorite records
by obscure girl groups (not necessarily obscure girl group records, mind
you). I'll leave it to individual discretion whether or not to include
well-known groups recording under obscure names, as well as where to
draw the line between obscure and well-known (i.e., Butterflys -- in or
out?), although I would suggest that we think of it in terms of "obscure
to US." I would prefer to limit it just to groups, however, as opposed
to solo artists.
As I realize these "rules" might be a bit confusing, allow me to start
off with a few examples, from my own personal pantheon:
The Bittersweets: The Hurtin' Kind
The Lovelites: When I Get Scared
Terry & The Tunisians: Tom Tom
The Satisfactions: Daddy You Just Gotta Let Him In
The Tammys: Egyptian Shumba
List as many as you like. This is not a formal survey, nor notes toward
a compilation or anything -- it's jest fer phun.
--Phil M.
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 17:37:03 -0000
From: Craig Davison
Subject: Re: Chartbusters' "She's The One"
As mentioned elsewhere, there was a CD compilation put out some time
back that includes the entire "Manchesters" Beatlerama Vol. 2 LP. I
remember seeing it listed in the Collectors' Choice catalog at, like,
$35 about 10 years ago. Add on their shipping costs and I was
looking at $40 plus - too rich for my blood! I managed to finally
get a copy, sans liner notes. Good stuff!
I didn't actually hear the broadcast, but a friend told me Joey
Reynolds did one of those crazy disk jockey stunts where he played
"She's The One" over and over and over during one of his on-air shifts.
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 17:51:37 -0000
From: Fred Clemens
Subject: Re: Del-Satins
Previously:
> Johnny Maestro, upon leaving the Crests, went solo briefly and
> eventually became a part of the Del-Satins group. The Del-Satins,
> at that time, were made up of Johnny, Les Cauchi, and Fred Ferrara.
> (They had no recordings issued during that brief period, though
> they did make public appearances.)
Al Kooper:
> Are there two Del-Satins here? One mentioned above, and the Laurie
> recording group?
Les and Fred are from the same group that recorded for Laurie and
backed Dion on the label (and Columbia). The Dell Satins (original
spelling)/Del Satins started off on the End label (1), then Win (1),
followed by Laurie (2), Columbia (1), Mala (1), B.T. Puppy (3 + 1
later), and finally Diamond (1). Original members also included
Fred's brother, Tommy, who currently sings bass with Nick Santo's
Capris. On the earlier recordings (up through the Mala release), the
lead vocals were by Stan Ziska (aka Stan Sommers).
Fred Clemens
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 17:53:12 -0000
From: Mike Edwards
Subject: Where to find the music
The following is for members who were recently looking for some
titles:
The "Girls Go Zonk" CD is available at amazon.com:
http://tinyurl.com/3deya
"Life Is Groovy" by the Kirby Stone 4 is available on the newly
released Tokens' CD "Very Best of 1964-1967". It's at amazon.com:
http://tinyurl.com/yto4f
I don'think I have seen this CD mentioned on either S'pop or Harmony
High. Strange, because not too long ago we would have killed for a
Tokens' CD such as this.
Sunny & The Sunliners/"Talk To Me", which hit #11 in 1963 is
available on a UK Kent CD, "The Birth Of Soul – Vol 3". Needless to
say, it's at amazon.com:
http://tinyurl.com/2gq3q
This CD also contains the Tams' original version of the Joe South
song, "Untie Me" (Arlen, 1962). Both this and "Talk To Me" are
utterly fabulous.
Hope this helps, Mike
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 18:27:36 -0000
From: Mike Edwards
Subject: CDs on Eric Records
My thanks to Clark Besch for altering us to the two new CDs now out
on Eric, "Teen Time, Volumes 1 and 2".
I was, however, disappointed with the selection on both CDs. Eric is
pulling from the catalogs of Roulette, Colpix, and Warner Bros for
these CDs.
Roulette and Colpix have been worked pretty hard by Sequel and
Westside (and/or their successors) in the UK and by Collectables in
the US. Consequently these Eric CDs feature a lot of overlap. Eric's
website tells us that Volume 1 features only 5 titles that are making
their CD debut while Volume 2 has only 2. Both CDs offer only 20 cuts
each.
I guess the market for oldies' CDs is always growing and there may be
some who don't have such staples as "Goodbye Cruel World", "Easier
Said Than Done", "Blue Moon", "Johnny Angel" and "See You In
September" but I cannot imagine how many.
I'm not sure what titles that were issued as 45s on the three labels
covered are still in those labels' catalogs but I feel sure that
there is many a surf, girl-group, r&b and garage band tile that could
use a reissue and help the series appeal to collectors
The complete track listings are at:
http://www.ericrecords.com/
Mike
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 12:22:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: Norm D.
Subject: Zombies radio interview
Zombies fans might like to hear a radio interview that's coming up
this Saturday, April 17th, at 19.00 hrs (London time). Colin
Blunstone will be on the Gary Crowley show for an hour mainly
promoting The Zombies' new album and London gigs but also discussing
their career. The prog. is treamed for a week. Go to:
www.bbc.co.uk/london/ and follow the links.
TTFN
Norm D.
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 20:53:11 -0000
From: S.J. Dibai
Subject: Musica - I CAN HELP
Hello, frustrated Spectropoppers! I, too, have had problems with
musica tracks cutting off at the end. If you have a few different
players on your computer--i.e., Real Player, Windows Media Player,
Musicmatch Jukebox--take note. When I downloaded mp3's from musica,
they were playing in Real Player and messing up. I tried playing the
same files in Windows Media Player and they didn't cut off at the
end! Ditto with Musicmatch. So who knows, maybe the answer is that
if it ain't workin' in one playing device, try another.
S.J. Dibai
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 22:58:57 -0000
From: Bob Celli
Subject: Bobby Rydell Scopitone Question
I recently picked up a DVD full of scopitones that included a song
done by Bobby Rydell called "Belazza". Was this song released
anywhere? I can't seem to locate it on any single or lp!
Bob Celli
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 23:59:11 -0000
From: Peter
Subject: Re: Shangri-Las help!
I have a ShangriLas tidbit you might be interested in -- I taped
hours of radio broadcasts in NYC back in 1963-1967, including WMCA,
WABC, and WINS. It happens that I was a big Murray the K fan in
65-66, and was devastated when WINS, where he as at the time,
switched from rock to all-news. I taped the very last song WINS
rock radio played -- it was "Out in the Streets" by the Shangri-Las.
Finding that segment will take some time.. I have just recently
begun to set up my computer to transfer vinyl and tape to digital,
but when and if I do find it, I'll be happy to ship you a copy of
those last moments and the song.
Peter
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 05:48:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mac Joseph
Subject: Re: Del-Satins
Al;
If memory serves me, weren't the Del Satins also Ernie Marescas backup for "Shout, Shout"(knock yourself out)? They also backed up a girl, (I
can't remember her name, I have the song in my files somewhere) that
did a parody on Dions "Runaround Sue", it was called "Stay at home Sue",
same backup vocals, same arrangement, everything.
Mac Joseph
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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 19:50:14 +0200
From: Stephane Rebeschini
Subject: Re: Solomon Burke
James Botticelli a écrit:
> ...What would a Solomon Burke, probably not swimming in the excesses
> of wealth, do given 'alf a chance? He'd do the safest most advisable
> thing to do...
Hi
>From what I've read about Solomon, he is a very specific character and
doesn't have real money problems. Even during his best record-selling
period, he was also managing several businesses, most notably a funeral
company (he's a "doctor of Mortuary Science"), a limousine service, a
chain of drugstores, a hotdog and hamburger company,... He was also
selling food & drinks to the musicians when he was touring. A large
part of Peter Guralnick's book "Sweet Soul Music" is about Solomon,
(father of 21 children, with 65 grandchildren!) and his businesses. The
book is a must read, and the pages about Solomon are just great,
especially the pages explaining how Solomon managed to sell a whole
truck of his popcorn at the Apollo Theatre when he was singing there in
the 60's.
Burke also heads his own evangelical church with 168 missions across
America and a congregation 40,000 strong...
So Solomon is probably not the best example of artists "not swimming in
the excesses of wealth"... :0)
There's a good article about him there:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/12/05/60minutes/main587116.shtml
Stephane
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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 04:03:02 -0000
From: Lyn
Subject: Bobby & Laurie (Bright & Allen) Every Second Day at musica
This was on Bobby & Laurie's album 'Exposaic', released in '66 as
they were breaking up, although they later reformed and had a
further hit in 1970 with a country song, 'Carroll County Accident'.
They wrote 'Every Second Day' under their joint pseudonym of 'Alan
Brite', and it was also released as a single which apparently
disappeared without trace.
Rock writer & anthologist Glenn A. Baker must've liked this song, as
it appears on at least two of his compilations of Australian pop.
I don't want build up your expectations too much, but Baker wrote:
"Bobby and Laurie began to get on each other's wicks* and opted to
wind it all up with a farewell album inexplicably titled 'Exposiac'.
For the most part muddled and middling, the album does offer forth
one truly scintillating piece of avant-pop, still light years ahead
of its time. Not even the most generous mind can fathom the path of
transition between (Bobby & Laurie's) hits and this wondrous
spellbinder." - Notes to the 'Albert Archives' LP, 1979. (That's
our Glenn: when he likes something he REALLY likes it!)
* "began to get on each other's wicks": that may be an Australianism.
It means they irritated each other. Really!
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Message: 17
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 23:50:33 -0700
From: Kim Cooper
Subject: Al Kooper
We hope you'll tune in to the Catalog of Cool's New Digs section for
Gene Sculatti's celebration of the many faces of Al Kooper...
http://www.catalog-of-cool.com/newdigssounds.html
Kim Cooper
Kitten with a Hip
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Message: 18
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 19:36:16 -0000
From: Billy G. Texas
Subject: Beach Boys Stereo
Previously:
> Sunflower was the first "true stereo" (as opposed to "duophonic!")
> Beach Boys album, and that was released in 1969, after Brian had
> retired to the master bedroom.
Most of the early Beach Boys albums were released in True Stereo, but
is wasnt a very full sound (except for those great vocals) because
they were recording on 3-4 track equipment then and the backing track
usually got scrunched down to mono.
The first really "true stereo" Beach Boys album was "Friends" from
1968. I believe it was recorded on a 8-Track recorder at Brian's Bel
Air house. Great Record! Sunflower was issued in 1970, not '69.
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Message: 19
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 11:26:44 -0700
From: Gary Myers
Subject: Re: Del-Satins & Linda Laurie
Mac Joseph, re: Del-Satins:
> They also backed up a girl, (I can't remember her name, I have
> the song in my files somewhere) that did a parody on Dion's
> "Runaround Sue", it was called "Stay at home Sue"
That was Linda Laurie, of "Ambrose Part 5" fame. Many years later
she wrote "(Leave Me Alone) Ruby Red Dress".
gem
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Message: 20
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 12:18:12 -0700
From: bryan
Subject: New Brian Wilson studio album in June
New Brian Wilson studio album in June
By Tamara Conniff, Reuters
LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) - Brian Wilson's first new studio
album in six years, "Gettin' in Over My Head," will be released by
Warner Music Group's Rhino Records on June 22.
The 61-year-old former Beach Boy recently resurrected and finished
his legendary "Smile" sessions, which he debuted live in the United
Kingdom. Wilson is expected to tour Europe in the summer in support
of "Gettin' in Over My Head" and possibly bring the "Smile" concert
to the United States in the fall. He is currently in the studio
working on the final version of "Smile," which will likely also be
released through Warner.
"Gettin' in Over My Head" features guest appearances by Eric
Clapton, Elton John, Van Dyke Parks and Paul McCartney. The album
also includes a duet with his late brother Carl Wilson titled "Soul
Searchin'."
"Gettin' in Over My Head" features a number songs which Wilson had
worked on earlier but had not yet completed, including the title
track and "Desert Drive," which are culled from his mid-1990s
collaboration with producer Andy Paley. Wilson's last studio album
was 1998's "Imagination."
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Message: 21
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 22:38:30 -0000
From: Lyn
Subject: Re: Bobby & Laurie (Bright & Allen) Every Second Day at musica
I wrote:
> This was on Bobby & Laurie's album 'Exposaic',
and then I wrote:
> a farewell album inexplicably titled 'Exposiac'.
Clearly, I have trouble getting my word processor around this one.
And I'm not the only one! It's listed as 'Exposasaic' in the 3rd
edition of Chris Spencer's 'Who's Who of Australian Rock', but
corrected to 'Exposaic' in the current edition.
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Message: 22
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 23:43:57 -0000
From: Scott Charbonneau
Subject: Re: Bobby & Laurie (Bright & Allen) Every Second Day at musica
The "Exposaic" LP was Bobby & Laurie's first delving into a country
oriented sound and, quite frankly, must have puzzled their
predominantly teenybopper audience something terrible upon its
release circa '66 - '67. Here is a capsule review of the LP courtesy
of the late Dean Mittlehauser's fine "From The Vault" fanzine:
Bobby & Laurie - Exposaic (Parlophone PMCO 7539)
By golly this is a strange album. Every track bar one is country
influenced and the one track that isn't, "Every Second Day" sticks
out like dogs balls by virtue of the fact of being the closest thing
to psychedelia to come from an Australian artist.
Because of the extreme about face in style from B&L the LP sold very
poorly and has since become very scarce. I'm sure even the duo's hard
core fans avoided it in droves - it's just a silly album, completely
directionless and just meandering from track to track.
Personally I like the LP fine; granted it is rather bizarre at times
but must be appreciated for what it really and truly is: Exhibit A
in "How To Commit Career Suicide." Copies do show up on ebay from
time to time and can be had for a reasonable amount of money.
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Message: 23
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 04:10:36 -0000
From: Country Paul
Subject: Re: fave rex by obscure g.g.s
Phil X. Milstein wrote:
> I suddenly got curious to hear some of your opinions on favorite
> records by obscure girl groups...
The Cheer Leaders - That's The Way With Love (Encore, c. 1963) -
gorgeous; Gary Paxton association with this
The Joys - I Still Love Him (Valiant, c. 1963) - maybe not so obscure
to this crew; this should have been a major smash
The Iridescents - Three Coins In The Fountain (Hudson, early 60's) -
nice but raw doo-wop ballad version of this standard; I don't remember
if it was just female-led or all female
The Luvs - We Kiss In The Shadows (Stallion, 1963) - my new discovery;
astonishing doo-wop ballad version of this. In fact, "thrilling" isn't
too strong a word in my opinion.
Of those you mention, I only recently became aware of "Egyptian
Shumba," and while I don't think it's the best g-g track, as I've
seen someone state, it sure is darn good!
Country Paul
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Message: 24
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 04:15:26 -0000
From: Country Paul
Subject: Re: Chartbusters' "She's The One"
Craig Davison wrote:
> I didn't actually hear the broadcast, but a friend told me Joey
> Reynolds did one of those crazy disk jockey stunts where he played
> "She's The One" over and over and over during one of his on-air
> shifts.
He used to cue it up to the "One more time!" yell; when the record
finished, he'd tell a joke or make a wisecrack, and punctuate it with
that pick-up. When the record ended he'd do it again...and
again...and again...
He did the same kind of shtick with the Raindrops "The Kidn Of Boy
You Can't Forget," using the "electronic whomping" (as we used to
call it) as the punctuator.
In his prime, Joey was to my taste truly one of the most brilliant
DJ's on the radio in any market.
Country Paul
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Message: 25
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 04:27:55 -0000
From: Country Paul
Subject: Re: Where to find the music
Mike Edwards wrote:
> The following is for members who were recently looking for some
> titles:.... "Life Is Groovy" by the Kirby Stone 4 is available on
> the newly released Tokens' CD "Very Best of 1964-1967". It's at
> amazon.com: http://tinyurl.com/yto4f
>
> I don'think I have seen this CD mentioned on either S'pop or Harmony
> High. Strange, because not too long ago we would have killed for a
> Tokens' CD such as this.
A gem - and stereo on "I Hear Trumpets Blow," too - plus the beautiful
"He's In Town." The Tokens built a strange bridge between progresive
rock and doo-wop which I for one find very engaging. The KS4 has the
Tokens singing with them, both groups billed under the banner "The
United States Double Quartet." The lyrics are laughably dated - they
were uncool even contemporaneously - but the performance and the song
excel.
> Sunny & The Sunliners/"Talk To Me", which hit #11 in 1963 is
> available on a UK Kent CD, "The Birth Of Soul – Vol 3". Needless to
> say, it's at amazon.com: http://tinyurl.com/2gq3q
>
> This CD also contains the Tams' original version of the Joe South
> song, "Untie Me" (Arlen, 1962). Both this and "Talk To Me" are
> utterly fabulous.
Sunny's real good, although I prefer Little Willie John's original;
but "Untie Me" is IMO the Tams' best ever. The trombone player hits
the coolest note in r&b!
Country Paul
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