Spectropop - Digest Number 1443

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• Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004

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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: New Brian Wilson studio album in June
           From: Frank Jastfelder 
      2. Re: 1960 Tillotson song
           From: Lloyd Davis 
      3. Re: The Del-Satins
           From: Fred Clemens 
      4. Re: Obscure girl group records
           From: Bob Rashkow 
      5. 2 musica ads
           From: Phil X. Milstein 
      6. Kelly Garrett
           From: Phil X. Milstein 
      7. Re: Help me find this long-lost oldie - "I am the lonely man, that's me" (?)
           From: Mike McKay 
      8. Jack Nitzsche at Spectropop update
           From: Martin Roberts 
      9. Re: Help me find this long-lost oldie - "I am the lonely man, that's me" (?)
           From: Rodney Rawlings 
     10. Re: Obscure girl group records
           From: Al Kooper 
     11. Re: Kelly Garrett
           From: James Holvay 
     12. Re: Bernie Schwartz
           From: Paul 
     13. Re: Kelly Garrett
           From: Gary Myers 
     14. Re: Kelly Garrett
           From: Tony Leong 
     15. Re: Help me find this long-lost oldie - "I am the lonely man, that's me" (?)
           From: superoldies 
     16. Re: Kelly Garrett
           From: Ken Silverwood 
     17. Re: Obscure girl group records
           From: Fred Clemens 
     18. Re: Kelly Garrett
           From: Mac Joseph 
     19. Re: Help me find this long-lost oldie - "I am the lonely man, that's me" (?)
           From: bonicaj 
     20. Re: Obscure Girl Groups
           From: David Coyle 
     21. Re: Kelly Garrett
           From: Tony Leong 
     22. Jack Tucker
           From: Gary Myers 
     23. Re: The Del-Satins & Linda Laurie
           From: Mac Joseph 
     24. Re: Help me find this long-lost oldie - "I am the lonely man, that's me" (?)
           From: Gary Myers 
     25. Re: Help me find this long-lost oldie - "I am the lonely man, that's me" (?)
           From: Frank 


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Message: 1
   Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 14:52:04 +0200
   From: Frank Jastfelder 
Subject: Re: New Brian Wilson studio album in June

I'm a huge fan of Brian and I really hope that the album turns out 
to be good.  But the one new song Brian played during his Smile tour 
was - to be honest - very disappointing. (It had a terrible Rock 
guitar solo.) Plus I don't see the point about guests like Eric 
Clapton and Elton John on a Brian Wilson album.

Since it's going to be released on Warner the "Smile" album must be 
a re-recording, I guess. Does anyone know if the original recordings 
are going to see the light one day?

Frank



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Message: 2
   Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 13:08:15 -0400
   From: Lloyd Davis 
Subject: Re: 1960 Tillotson song

Gary Myers wrote:
> I've been unable to ascertain the writer(s) of Johnny Tillotson's
> 1960 hit, "Why Do I Love You So."

There is an entry in the BMI database. The writer is Clifford Rhodes. 
It's the only songwriting credit that shows up for him.

The publisher, Tannen Music, has an online database of its catalog 
(the main address is http://www.tannenmusic.com where you'll find 
more information. It identifies Rhodes as "one of Johnny's Florida 
friends." Tannen also publishes the B-side, a Tillotson original 
called "Never Let Me Go," and a handful of other Tillotson 
compositions.

-- Lloyd Davis



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Message: 3
   Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 15:36:38 -0000
   From: Fred Clemens 
Subject: Re: The Del-Satins

Al Kooper:
> How do you come to know this stuff, Fred? Are you Stan Ziska's 
> cousin? I remember Stan Ziska quite well. Couldn't remember his 
> name without you though. I have a Laurie and a Columbia single. 
> One is "Who Cares" and the other is "Feelin' No Pain" I think. I 
> met them at the Dion session for "Love Came To Me". Nice lads!

No, I'm not Stan's cousin. I've been a fan of Dion's for quite a 
while now, and the Del Satin's fit right in. I have all the Del 
Satins original singles, other than a B.T.Puppy side. I've only 
actually met Tom Ferarra, when he did a local appearance with the 
Capris a few years ago.

With regard to "Who Cares"/"Feeling No Pain", the Columbia promo was 
issued with a special sleeve with a note from Dion introducing the 
group and their *first* single (This was actually their 5th single, 
but their first and only on Columbia)! Relative young'un that I am 
(50), "Feeling No Pain" was the only song by them I can recall 
hearing on the radio at the time of release. The others were pleasant 
surprises when I got into collecting in early 1975.

Around 1980, Johnny Maestro had an LP issued on the Harvey label, 
which includes two previously un-issued tracks he did with the Del 
Satins before the Bridge formation. It also includes an extensive 
background on Johnny's association with the group, which was used in 
volume #2 of UGHA's mag, HARMONY TYMES, in 1981. I'd recommend the 
AllMusic bio, if not for the fact of obvious inaccuracies I find 
there from time to time. The painful one regarding them puts them as 
a 1970's group, when their story obviously pegs them for the 1960's.

I've seen Johnny and the guys a few times over the past decade, and 
they never failed to give a great performance. Johnny should be long 
qualified as an inductee to the Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame, as he's 
evolved successfully from the 1950's to the 1960's with the Crests 
and the Bridge. There was a strong campaign going on about 5 years 
ago to get him in, but all failed. At this point, I don't think he 
would accept the induction.

Fred Clemens



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Message: 4
   Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 14:09:43 EDT
   From: Bob Rashkow 
Subject: Re: Obscure girl group records

Tears Come Tumbling b/w You Won't Be There (both terrific)
Cincinnati's "Teardrops" on Musicor, 1965

And, yes--The Butterflys!!  And so many more that I haven't even 
heard!!

Doo-lang, doo-lang, doo-lang,

Bobster



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Message: 5
   Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 14:45:15 -0400
   From: Phil X. Milstein 
Subject: 2 musica ads

Been meaning to add my thanks to Clark B. for the two mad radio ads he
played recently to musica. The Victor Lundberg parody sounds more like
something a couple of ad guys cooked up for their own amusement; hard to
believe it actually aired!

--Phil M.



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Message: 6
   Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 14:50:33 -0400
   From: Phil X. Milstein 
Subject: Kelly Garrett

Can anyone tell me anything about a '60s singer named Kelly Garrett? 
A few performances by her turned up in some old Shindig tapes I've
recently been watching, and I've been most impressed. Aside from all 
the known stars that're on those tapes are also a few scattered 
lesser lights I don't recognize, including several girl singers of 
better looks than "chops" ... and then this Kelly Garrett, who's got 
it ALL goin' awn. Her style is rather "black" (if you'll pardon the 
expression), pitting her amid the lineage of Timi Yuro, Evie Sands, 
etc. She have any success to speak of? Still working, by any chance?

--Phil M.



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Message: 7
   Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 14:51:38 EDT
   From: Mike McKay 
Subject: Re: Help me find this long-lost oldie - "I am the lonely man, that's me" (?)

Rodney Rawlings wrote:
> This site may be my last hope to find an oldie from the 1960s or
> 1950s. I am not sure of ANY of these lyrics, but to my childish 
> mind they sounded like this (male singer, possibly a country song):
> I am the lonely man, that's me-ee [piano lick]
> I am the lonely man, that's me-ee [piano lick]
> I live in constant misery-ee

My resources may not be 100 percent complete, but the only entry I 
found that made either the Country or Hot 100 charts in Billboard is 
"Lonely Man" by Elvis Presely, which reached #32 in 1961. I don't 
know this song so I don't know if this is what you have in mind. No 
other titles fit the bill on either chart.

Mike



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Message: 8
   Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 18:26:35 -0000
   From: Martin Roberts 
Subject: Jack Nitzsche at Spectropop update

Quick while the wife's busy...

Thanks to Phil C for putting through the updates, 'fraid my PC 
is incapacitated but Sue's Mac is okay so...

I'm pleased, nay proud to present the 'Wonderful' Simon White 
as the guest reviewer for this week's ROTW. He's written an 
enthusiastic (but understated!) review of Bobby Day's "Pretty 
Little Girl Next Door". I love the record but am a tad surprised 
at its £300 - £400 price tag. Apparently it's 'big' on the 
Northern Soul scene. Read all about it AND listen for free: 
http://www.spectropop.com/JackNitzsche/index.htm

Martin



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Message: 9
   Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 21:41:02 -0000
   From: Rodney Rawlings 
Subject: Re: Help me find this long-lost oldie - "I am the lonely man, that's me" (?)

Mike, no, unfortunately that's not it. But thanks anyway!






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Message: 10
   Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 18:35:57 EDT
   From: Al Kooper 
Subject: Re: Obscure girl group records

Phil M:
> I suddenly got curious to hear some of your opinions on favorite
> records by obscure girl groups...List as many as you like.

Jimmy Botticelli: 
> Penn Station - Henrietta & The Hairdooz

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
I wrote that song. It's not bad. Ed Silvers (Timi Yuro) produced it 
in LA. They had another single that wasn't bad, also on Liberty, 
called "Slow Motion".

Al Kooper



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Message: 11
   Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 15:23:03 -0700
   From: James Holvay 
Subject: Re: Kelly Garrett

Phil: I don't know much about Kelly Garrett. I know she was around LA 
in the 70's, playing P.J.'s and some of the other entertainment venues. 
I have a "promo album" on her on RCA.  All the top LA studio muscians 
are backing her up. Are you interested in buying it?






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Message: 12
   Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 19:21:40 EDT
   From: Paul 
Subject: Re: Bernie Schwartz

They've got 'How to Commit Marriage' for $9.99 on Amazon. Just 
ordered a copy, looking forward to seeing 'The Comfortable Chair' 
clips again.
Paul



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Message: 13
   Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 17:04:16 -0700
   From: Gary Myers 
Subject: Re: Kelly Garrett

>From Phil  X. Milstein:
> Can anyone tell me anything about a '60s singer named Kelly Garrett?

I don't recall ever hearing of her, and apparently she never charted 
nationally, but Osborne's Price Guide shows releases on Ava, Palomar, 
RCA, Smash and Wizdom, ranging from '63 - '76, so it appears she gave 
it a good shot.

gem



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Message: 14
   Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 06:56:13 -0000
   From: Tony Leong 
Subject: Re: Kelly Garrett

Phil:  Kelley Garrett was still performing about 5-10 years ago.  She 
was in New York appearing at a cabaret-type club.  She looked much 
the same as she did on "Shindig" and she talked about all the great 
groups she performed with on the show when I met her outside  of the 
place.  I haven't heard of her appearing anywhere lately, but she was 
good on her Shindig appearances.  Tony




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Message: 15
   Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 05:56:15 -0000
   From: superoldies 
Subject: Re: Help me find this long-lost oldie - "I am the lonely man, that's me" (?)

It's not the Elvis song, but other "Lonely Man" titles from that 
same late '50s/early 60s era could be by Tennessee Ernie Ford, Sheb 
Wooley, or lesser known artists Del Swade, Jerry Woodard, Rocky 
Robin or Jack Tucker.




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Message: 16
   Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 11:32:59 +0100
   From: Ken Silverwood 
Subject: Re: Kelly Garrett

Phil M:
> Can anyone tell me anything about a '60s singer named Kelly 
> Garrett? 

I have a 45 on Smash S 2195 titled " Love's The Only Answer" 
(affirming that "love is all you need") from 1968, writers 
Gelber-Hoffer?, produced Jimmy Bowen, arranged Glen D Hardin, 
which i've put to musica. It's quite a mover so place high all 
expensive ornaments :-)

Ken On The West Coast



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Message: 17
   Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 11:24:25 -0000
   From: Fred Clemens 
Subject: Re: Obscure girl group records

Phil Milstein's fave obscure girl group records:
> The Bittersweets: The Hurtin' Kind
> The Lovelites: When I Get Scared
> Terry & The Tunisians: Tom Tom
> The Satisfactions: Daddy You Just Gotta Let Him In
> The Tammys: Egyptian Shumba

The only one I can identify is the Terry and the Tunisians record,
"Tom Tom". If I'm correct, it's on the Seville label, and the 
other side is called "The Street" (THAT'S the side I like it for!!!)

"Well, Bom BOM Bom, Bom Bom-Bom BOM Bom...The Streeeeeeeeeet, we used 
to walk toge-e-ther, It's go-oooooooooone, it's part of our mem-o-
ryeeeeeee..."

(should be close enough for jazz)

Fred Clemens



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Message: 18
   Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 05:44:13 -0700 (PDT)
   From: Mac Joseph 
Subject: Re: Kelly Garrett

Phil M:
> Can anyone tell me anything about a '60s singer named Kelly 
> Garrett? 

James Holvay:
> ...I have a "promo album" on her on RCA.  All the top LA studio 
> muscians are backing her up. Are you interested in buying it?

Dear James,

If he's not, I certainly would be very interested in it. Please let 
me know off list.

Mac Joseph



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Message: 19
   Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 15:09:09 -0000
   From: bonicaj 
Subject: Re: Help me find this long-lost oldie - "I am the lonely man, that's me" (?)

The song is "Mr. Lonely" by Bobby Vinton.



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Message: 20
   Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 08:08:06 -0700 (PDT)
   From: David Coyle 
Subject: Re: Obscure Girl Groups

I also like "The Hurtin' Kind" by the Bittersweets, which was a 
cover of a song originally recorded by the Tulu Babies, a 
precursor of the Baskerville Hounds, a Cleveland garage pop band.

If I may make a brief diversion into similar territory, another 
girl band (as opposed to Shangri-Las type "girl group") I rate 
highly is the Continental Co-Ets, a Minnesota quintet that recorded
a very good let-down song in 1965, "I Don't Love You No More." 
There were a lot of female pop bands around the time, many of which 
appear on the "Girls In The Garage" bootleg series, where the line 
kind of blurs between the two different styles of "girl pop."

David



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Message: 21
   Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 16:47:17 -0000
   From: Tony Leong 
Subject: Re: Kelly Garrett

Speaking of Kelly Garrett on Shindig, there were a host of other 
singers that appeared on the show that were good, but that I know 
nothing about nor can I find their material on CD.  Those people 
include:  Gary Brento Weiss, Linda Clark, Linda Gayle, The Gauchos, 
The Bitter End Singers, Susie Barrett, Kathy Kersh.  Anybody out 
there know anything about any of these people, especially Linda Clark 
(blonde hair, smoky voice, appeared on Shindig 8-65 singing "Oh 
Boy", "Gotta Find My Pig!!!", and "Let The Sunshine In" ((not the 5-D 
song, but a rockabilly song that she sang with Jackie and Gayle)).  
Phil, I'm sure that you have seen these people on your tapes--know 
anything 'bout 'em???

Tony Leong



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Message: 22
   Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 10:36:57 -0700
   From: Gary Myers 
Subject: Jack Tucker

Superoldies:
> ... other "Lonely Man" titles from that same late '50s/early 60s 
> era could be by ... Jack Tucker

I worked with Tucker a few times in the 80's. He was straight old-
style c&w, although I guess a couple of his early releases qualify 
as RAB at good prices. He died a few years ago.

James Holvay:
> I don't know much about Kelly Garrett. I know she was around LA 
> in the 70's ...

Hey James, good to see you in here!

Gary Myers / MusicGem
http://home.earthlink.net/~gem777/



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Message: 23
   Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 05:59:55 -0700 (PDT)
   From: Mac Joseph 
Subject: Re: The Del-Satins & Linda Laurie

Me:
> (The Del-Satins) also backed up a girl, (I can't remember her name, 
> I have the song in my files somewhere) that did a parody on Dion's 
> "Runaround Sue", it was called "Stay at home Sue"

Gary Myers:
> That was Linda Laurie, of "Ambrose Part 5" fame. Many years later 
> she wrote "(Leave Me Alone) Ruby Red Dress".

Thanks Gary. I have that song in my files, but it was driving me nuts 
because I couldn't remember her name. I recognize the song Ruby Red 
Dress (Helen Reddy, correct?), but I am sorry, what is Ambrose, part 5?

Mac Joseph





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Message: 24
   Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 11:27:33 -0700
   From: Gary Myers 
Subject: Re: Help me find this long-lost oldie - "I am the lonely man, that's me" (?)

>From bonicaj:
> The song is "Mr. Lonely" by Bobby Vinton.

And, even though Vinton co-wrote it, it was Buddy Greco's version 
that charted first.

gem



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Message: 25
   Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 21:17:40 +0200
   From: Frank 
Subject: Re: Help me find this long-lost oldie - "I am the lonely man, that's me" (?)

bonicaj:
> The song is "Mr. Lonely" by Bobby Vinton.

Gary Myers:
> And, even though Vinton co-wrote it, it was Buddy Greco's version
> that charted first.

And the story goes that both artists were caught in some kind of 
internal fight. They both were on the Epic label. Bobby Vinton 
recorded it, then for some strange reason Epic called Buddy Greco, 
told him they had a hit song for him and took Bobby Vinton's backing 
track to have Greco sing over it and rush release it before the 
Vinton single came out. Strange indeed.

Frank

PS: "Slow Motion" not bad. You gotta be kiddin', Al! It's a great 
track.




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