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There are 6 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Judgement Time for The Magoos
From: Mike McKay
2. Re: The Big Hurt
From: Gary Myers
3. Re: The Big Hurt
From: James Botticelli
4. Re: Girls With Guitars - The Charmaines
From: Mick Patrick
5. Del Casher
From: Phil X. Milstein
6. Re: Crime Story / The Ventures
From: Al Kooper
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 13:12:54 EDT
From: Mike McKay
Subject: Re: Judgement Time for The Magoos
Dave O' wrote:
> We Ain't Got Nothin' Yet hit BB 12/10/66, peaking at #5 in 1967. The
> flip of this single also charted for a while in the spring of '67. It
> was called Pipe Dream; an apt description for hopes of a long musical
> career?
"Pipe Dream" was in fact a subsequent single release for The Blues
Magoos. If memory serves me, which it may not, the flip of "We Ain't
Got Nothin' Yet" was "Gotta Get Away."
Mike
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 09:53:43 -0700
From: Gary Myers
Subject: Re: The Big Hurt
Peter Lerner wrote:
> Miss Toni's version of The Big Hurt an all time classic ...
Bonnie B:
> Have you ever heard the Susan Rafey version on a verve album
No, but Wes Montgomery did a nice one, too. Our band used to do
that one.
gem
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 13:34:07 -0400
From: James Botticelli
Subject: Re: The Big Hurt
Bonnie B:
> Have you ever heard the Susan Rafey version on a verve album
Yes...arranged by Alan Lorber in '66 it is spectacular. Between
the fuzz guitar and the Son of Wall of Sound, it resonated
strongly at this address, resides in my collection, and was on
'moderate' rotation on my weekly kollij radio station show for
a couple of years....
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 19:26:17 +0100
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Re: Girls With Guitars - The Charmaines
Me:
> CD is subtitled "All-Girl Bands, Axe-Backed Babes and the like..."
> Get the picture? Here's what's on it:
> Girls With Guitars (Ace CDCHD 989)
> 17. Lonnie Mack and the Charmaines - Sticks And Stones
Gary Myers:
> Apparently this is not the "Memphis" Lonnie Mack?
Yes it IS him. The Charmaines and Lonnie were on the same Cincinnati
label, Fraternity. He played on some of the their records, and they
sang on some of his - sometimes background, sometimes lead.
>From the "Girls With Guitars" CD booklet notes:
"...As session singers (the Charmaines) were in demand at nearby
King Records, where they backed up James Brown and country star
Hawshaw Hawkins, and at Fraternity, where the main recipient of their
services was "That Memphis Man", Lonnie Mack. The guitarist's version
of Ray Charles' 'Sticks And Stones' (heard here), on which the
Charmaines supplied all the vocals, was first released on his "Lonnie
On The Move" LP in 1976, although it had been in the can for over a
decade..."
I hear the Charmaines' previously unissued version of Ike & Tina
Turner's "I Idolize You" has become a bit of a London rave. It got
played at the last Actionettes club night. 'Tis wild!
Hey la,
Mick Patrick
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 14:54:16 +0000
From: Phil X. Milstein
Subject: Del Casher
Charles Ulrich wrote:
> My main obsession is Frank Zappa. But there are numerous connections
> between his career and the subject matter of this group, starting
> with the session musicians on the first Mothers Of Invention album
> (Carol Kaye et al).
Have you contacted Del Casher yet? He was a Les Paul protege who played
on some Elvis sdtk. sessions, was a member of The 3 Suns, recorded
original demonstration records for both Wah-Wah pedals and Ecco-Fonic
tape-delay unit, played countless song-poem sessions, and played a
couple of the loosely-assembled Mothers (pre-"Of Invention") dates,
alongside Van Dyke Parks. Del, a Midwestern "square" in the best sense
of the term, was subsequently invited to join the full-blown MoV Zappa
was putting together, but ultimately declined.
--Phil M.
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 00:41:47 EDT
From: Al Kooper
Subject: Re: Crime Story / The Ventures
Me:
> When I scored the TV series CRIME STORY in '86/'87, I also was
> hired to pick the records played in the show...
Mikey:
> I remember one time, watching Crime Story and there was a car
> chase......and the music behind it was The Ventures "Walk Dont
> Run"......and it sounded just GREAT. Was that your idea?
Mikey - I can't believe in 42 shows you pulled THAT one out. It's a
great story. It was Episode 2 of the first year and it was an
unusually long cue at about 7 minutes. The average cue is 45 seconds.
There were all kinds of picture/music matchups and I spent most of
that week writing an AMAZING car chase sequence. One of my informants
called to tell me that the film editor had put Walk Dont Run in there
just temporarily but that Michael Mann really liked it. So I called
Michael and said that i had put alot of work into that cue and perhaps
he should look at it before he fell deeply in love with The Ventures,
When you write for TV or film, its a good idea not to get emotionally
involved with your music because directors invariably screw with it so
grandiosely that a funeral scene you wrote could be used for a sex
scene after they've finished "placing" your music. So we had a lil
meeting in Mann's office and we watched the seven plus minutes with my
music behind it. Six days work. I was instantly encouraged as he let
the entire 7 minutes play out. When it ended, I sat there poker-faced
and two seconds later Mann said: "Naaaaahhhh!!! I'm gonna go with The
Ventures."
I loved that piece I wrote so much I ended up putting it on my
anthology album RARE & WELL DONE in 2001. It's on the RARE side and
it's called The Big Chase just in case someone reading this owns it.
So Mikey - I didnt choose The Ventures and I hated it. But I'm
encouraged the audience liked it!
Al "You Can't Run With A Walker" Kooper
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