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There are 19 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Coney Island Who??!!
From: Bob Rashkow
2. Re: Robin McNamara
From: Phil X Milstein
3. Re: Pat Boone's label
From: Fred Clemens
4. Re: 1965 hits
From: Hal Muskat
5. Re: Pat Boone's label
From: Gary Myers
6. Early mistakes
From: Al Kooper
7. Re: R'n'R Hall Of Fame
From: Alan Ackerman
8. Re: Love Of The Common People
From: Peter Lerner
9. Re: Ann-Margret and Lee Hazlewood
From: Bill George
10. Re: Celebration / Lou Rawls
From: (That) Alan Gordon
11. Joe Niagra RIP
From: Steve Harvey
12. Re: California Nights / A Brand New Me / Oh Me, Oh My
From: Justin McDevitt
13. Re: California Nights / A Brand New Me / Oh Me, Oh My
From: Brent
14. Re: California Nights / A Brand New Me / Oh Me, Oh My
From: Jim Shannon
15. Flo & Eddie's Best Part Of Breaking Up
From: Charles Ulrich
16. Re: R'n'R Hall Of Fame
From: Richard Williams
17. Re: Gene Pitney - Black Is Black
From: Bob Celli
18. Re: Black Is Black
From: Phil X Milstein
19. Re: last exit to Pitney
From: Phil X Milstein
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 18:53:56 EDT
From: Bob Rashkow
Subject: Coney Island Who??!!
That Alan Gordon, you are the MAN! ! ! I had to check my DJ copy of
"Coney Island Sally" by The (one and only) Fifth Estate to make sure
after I read Mike Edwards' post citing it and other terrific songs
penned by S'pop members. Sure enough, you and Bob Brass co-wrote this
amazing sunshine-pop for Wayne Wadhams and friends! One of the
happiest coolest relics of late-6Ts bubblegum and one of my very
favorites! Sockittome Alan, I kiss your hand! Could you possibly
mail me the lyrics either on or offlist? Bobster
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 18:24:50 +0000
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Re: Robin McNamara
Thanks to Laura Pinto for her efforts on layin' a little Robin McNamara
on us. To be honest I'd never really given him any thought before, other
than to enjoy Lay A Little Lovin' On Me whenever I hear it, but his
comments, particularly on the "My Convictions" page, are remarkably
lucid and interesting. I especially enjoyed his discussion there of his
family.
Robin McNamara's "My Convictions":
http://lpintop.tripod.com/oldiesconnection/id55.html
--Phil M.
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 00:00:26 -0000
From: Fred Clemens
Subject: Re: Pat Boone's label
Pat Boone's label is called GOLD. One Artist I know that presently has
a CD out on it is Stephen Collins (Reverend Eric Camden on the WB's
7TH HEAVEN). Other Artists include Jack Jones, the Lettermen, Cleo
Laine, and Glen Campbell:
http://www.patsgold.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=buycd&intAlbumId=113
Stephen's (http://www.stephencollins.com) first actual recording was
in 1968, when he stepped out in front of the Amherst College ZUMBYES
album, taking lead on "California Dreaming". Also a Zumbyes member at
the time, singing bass, was Dave Eisenhower (grandson to President
Eisenhower), not too long before he married Julie Nixon. Another
notable ZUMBYE alumni is actor Ken Howard, circa 1963-1966. He was
best known as Coach Reeves on THE WHITE SHADOW, and was most recently
a cast member of CROSSING JORDAN, playing Jordan's Dad in the
original incarnation of the show.
Fred Clemens
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 18:29:26 -0700
From: Hal Muskat
Subject: Re: 1965 hits
Nick Archer:
> I remember reading a Wolfman Jack interview, and he said that 1965
> was his favorite musical year because Motown, British Invasion and
> West Coast Surf music were all at or near their peaks.
and then there was Bob something, in several forms, all over the airs.
Twas a fine year of music it was and I am so grateful to have been
eighteen, on the loose & on the road seeing Dylan in The Village in the
winter & The Byrds on Sunset Strip in the fall - Hal
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 22:51:47 -0700
From: Gary Myers
Subject: Re: Pat Boone's label
Country Paul:
> Pat Boone? With Little Richard? Great cooga-mooga! What's the label
> called, who's been recording on it, and is the product any good?
Boone & Richard were sitting together on the Today Show, but I don't
think Richard is on Boone's label, and I don't think either one sang
(at least not on the part of the show that I saw).
I'm not sure, but I think Boone's label is called Golden (or something
like that) and I think he did say something about doing duets with
several artists, some of them surprising, but I don't recall who. I
haven't heard any of it.
gem
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 06:58:07 EDT
From: Al Kooper
Subject: Early mistakes
Previously:
> It is a shame how many artists (probably all?) have lost so much money
> out of their pockets in the attempt to get a foot in the music business.
> Then, with success, had to realize someone else got all the money from
> their early mistakes!
I'm raisin' MY hand. Alan Gordon...Paul Evans......Eddie Rambeau....Eddie
Floyd - raise your hands!
Al "serious victim" Kooper
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 12:33:14 -0000
From: Alan Ackerman
Subject: Re: R'n'R Hall Of Fame
Gary Spector wrote:
> I was just wondering. Has anyone ever been taken out of the Hall of
> Fame because of something they did?
If that were the case, the Rock Hall would be rather empty.
Alan Ackerman
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 15:22:55 +0100
From: Peter Lerner
Subject: Re: Love Of The Common People
Martin Roberts added to the list of people who recorded this song:
> I'm not sure of the release date -- mid- to late '60s, I'd guess --
> but Deane Hawley also recorded "Love Of The Common People", on
> Sundown 111. Produced by Marshall Leib, and arranged & conducted by
> Jimmy Haskell. Quite nice, but surely there is no finer version of
> this song than Nicky Thomas's reggae version, from 1969.
Well, I am quite partial to Sandy Posey's version on one of her MGM
albums, and didn't the Everlys do it? And I have a 45 of the song by
The Rainbows on Capitol 2175, which must also be late 60s.
Peter
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 10:42:31 EDT
From: Bill George
Subject: Re: Ann-Margret and Lee Hazlewood
Country Paul writes about Ann-Margret:
> Couldn't let your comment go by without seconding both parts (I have
> the pic sleeve, too)! Also, on the above Lee Hazelwood list is a 45
> by her on LHI-1, from 1969: "You Turned My Head Around"/"It's A Nice
> World to Visit (But Not To Live In)." Never heard of this one.
It's added as a bonus track (along with another single) to the CD
version of their duet LP The Cowboy and the Lady. Very cool psychedelia,
unlike anything A-M ever did, except for perhaps Tommy.
Bill
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 08:26:30 -0700
From: (That) Alan Gordon
Subject: Re: Celebration / Lou Rawls
Clark B. I thought about telling Mr. Rawls about "If You're Gonna Love
Me", but decided against it. It was not a good record, or song. I should
know by now that the great minds at S'pop would invariably discover the
klinkers in my catalogue. Songs like "If You`re Gonna Love Me", "Animal
Crackers" and the worst of them all "Coney Island Sally".
A friend told me that recently Mr. Rawls ran into some problems with
the law for spousal abuse. Looking back, I realized when I first saw
Lou and his wife at the bank I thought to myself WOW his wife is really
a knockout! Apparently Lou felt the same way!
Best, That Alan
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 10:49:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Harvey
Subject: Joe Niagra RIP
The day I see Van Dyke Parks honored by the R&RHoF
then I'll take it seriously. It's sad that record
sales dictate whether something is worthy of
inclusion. Look at the Beach Boys, their great Capitol
stuff (except for "Breakaway") garnered alot of hits,
but their Reprise material, equally great, was mainly
ignored by the main stream public and psuedo-hip
publications like Rolling Stone.
As I've said before there are kids who do oldies
shows, but only play what they hear on the mainstream
oldies authorities. The concept of flipping over to
the B-side is alien to a generation raised on CDs. I
always wanted to know who my favs in the 60s grew up
listening to. That's how I discovered Buddy, Chuck,
Carl, Fats, Arthur, Otis B., etc.
BTW, heard today that Joe Niagra, '50-2000s dj here in
Philly, passed away today. In recent years we use to
see him down at Penn's Landing for the WPEN big band
concerts. We could jitterbug for free on the cement
and Joe would sometimes host the thing. In true Philly
fashion the city has whittled the whole summer down to
just one month of big band, after 21 years. We also
lost Jam on the River to commerce. What was once a
celebration of blues, cajun, zydeco, and such is now a
bunch of jam bands. Sham on the River is more like it.
=====
Flip, flop and fly,
Steve Harvey
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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 12:55:34 -0700
From: Justin McDevitt
Subject: Re: California Nights / A Brand New Me / Oh Me, Oh My
Dave O'Gara:
> ...So I thought I'd mention them and see what others may have thought
> of these individual performances:>
> A Brand New Me by Dusty Springfield
> Oh Me, Oh My by Lulu
> California Nights by Lesley Gore
A Brand New Me didn't get the airplay that it deserves. Oh Me Oh My is
a wonderfuly produced recotd with Lulu's voice in fine form. When I
first heard California Nights in the winter of '67, my gut feeling was
that this was going to be Ms Gore's last major radio hit.
Finally, I too thought that Black Is Black was by Gene Pitney until I
was informed otherwise.
Justin McDevitt
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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 23:04:07 -0000
From: Brent
Subject: Re: California Nights / A Brand New Me / Oh Me, Oh My
Dave O'Gara:
> ...So I thought I'd mention them and see what others may have thought
> of these individual performances:>
> A Brand New Me by Dusty Springfield
> Oh Me, Oh My by Lulu
> California Nights by Lesley Gore
Well, since you asked, California Nights (for me) is a record that I
feel ambivalent about - in the most positive sense of the word: it
makes me feel many ways - all which add up to one of my all time
faves. This is a record that is (in 2:49) simultaneously gorgeous,
mysterious, bouncy - yet very unsettling and evocative of a beach...at
night. To say this record hits me on a visceral level is an
understatement. When those two instruments (are they a guitar and a
keyboard or two guitars?) start that intro, it feels like an ominous
yet beautiful alarm that there might be danger. Pretty much makes the
hair on the back of my neck stand up. Then, the verse has the bass
staying on C under the F major and the C major 7 (thank God) and I'm
back in Heaven for awhile... Not to mention Marvin Hamlisch and H.
Liebling and Crewe's contributions to it. So, easily in my Top 20
somewhere. The singer is not bad, either.
Brent
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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2004 21:47:38 -0000
From: Jim Shannon
Subject: Re: California Nights / A Brand New Me / Oh Me, Oh My
Dave O'Gara:
> ...So I thought I'd mention them and see what others may have thought
> of these individual performances:>
> A Brand New Me by Dusty Springfield
> Oh Me, Oh My by Lulu
> California Nights by Lesley Gore
"California Nights" was a beautiful song and one of my favorite Lesley
Gore compositions.
Jim Shannon
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Message: 15
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 14:31:50 -0700
From: Charles Ulrich
Subject: Flo & Eddie's Best Part Of Breaking Up
Martin Jensen:
> 2) Flo and Eddie, aka Howard Kaylan and Mark Volman of the Turtles,
> recorded a Spector cover during the 70s - I can't remember which song
> it was, possibly 'Baby, I Love You'? Has anyone heard it & is it any
> good?
"Best Part Of Breaking Up" is on Flo & Eddie's self-titled second
album (Reprise MS 2141, 1973). This was long before their reggae
period. Strangely, the song is not listed on the liner of the LP. I
don't know if there were legal reasons. The other nine tracks are
listed (out of order), followed by "and many, many more...". I greatly
enjoy Flo & Eddie's version, though I have to confess that I haven't
heard the Ronettes' original.
--Charles
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Message: 16
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2004 13:18:43 +0100
From: Richard Williams
Subject: Re: R'n'R Hall Of Fame
Gary Spector wrote:
> I was just wondering. Has anyone ever been taken out of the Hall
> of Fame because of something they did?
Not to my knowledge, but quite a few seem to have been inducted
despite something they did...
Richard Williams
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Message: 17
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2004 12:01:20 -0000
From: Bob Celli
Subject: Re: Gene Pitney - Black Is Black
Dave O'Gara:
> Did anyone think the first time you heard "Black is Black" by Los
> Bravos that it was Gene singing lead?
Gary Myers:
> Yes. I also thought "Down In The Boondocks" might be Pitney when I
> first heard it.
Several years ago, I heard an interview of Gene on the radio by a
local dj I believe, where the topic of "Black is Black" sounding like
a Gene Pitney record came up. Gene replied that he heard it on a car
radio while on tour and commented to either his manager or producer,
"When did we do that?" Even Gene thought it was him until the dj on
the station anounced the group's name.
Bob Celli
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Message: 18
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2004 16:24:10 -0400
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Re: Black Is Black
Dave O'Gara:
> Did anyone think the first time you heard "Black is Black" by Los
> Bravos that it was Gene singing lead?
There's a line in that song that even to this day sounds just like Tom
Jones to me.
--Phil M.
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Message: 19
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2004 15:33:13 -0400
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Re: last exit to Pitney
Peter Lerner wrote:
> "Last chance to turn around" is certainly my favourite obscurity of
> Gene's from my vantage point in the UK. It was tucked away on the B-
> side of the UK hit "Looking thru the eyes of love" but had massive
> airplay at the time on Radio Caroline. And that hook line "Last exit
> to Brooklyn" - must have been at least a nod towards the major
> contemporary novel of that title? Does anyone know?
It wasn't till fairly recently that I finally looked at my album and
found out that "Last Exit To Brooklyn" wasn't the title of the song!
Listening, but not always looking,
--Phil M.
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