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Spectropop - Digest Number 1517



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There are 14 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Multiple versions
           From: Dan Hughes 
      2. Nancy & Lee
           From: Dave O'Gara 
      3. Re: Shangri-las footage...
           From: Woppo88 
      4. Gene Pitney - There's No Livin' Without Your Lovin'
           From: Alan Warner 
      5. more Bobby & I
           From: Phil X Milstein 
      6. Re: O'Kaysions watcher
           From: Steve Jarrell 
      7. Re: Strandeds In The Jungle
           From: Eric Charge 
      8. David Gates & the Lively Set
           From: Mikey 
      9. Re: Barry Mandilow & telerevisionism
           From: Gary Myers 
     10. Re: California Nights
           From: Artie Wayne 
     11. Re: California Nights / A Brand New Me / Oh Me, Oh My
           From: Jim Allio 
     12. Re: Nancy & Lee 3
           From: Dan Nowicki 
     13. Bob Brass
           From: Al Kooper 
     14. Re: The girls on Gene Piyney's Hawaii
           From: Al Kooper 


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Message: 1 Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 16:49:23 -0500 From: Dan Hughes Subject: Multiple versions Previously: > Can someone explain the reasoning behind a double release of the same > song at almost the same time? In the fifties, it happened with just about every hit. Every big label had a stable of singers, and whenever a new blockbuster-to-be song was written, every label put out a version by one of their artists. For example, The Ballad of Davy Crockett hit the top 40 for Bill Hayes, Tennessee Ernie Ford, Fess Parker, and the Voices of Walter Schumann. And The Banana Boat charted by the Tarriers, Harry Belefonte, the Fontane Sisters, Steve Lawrence, Sarah Vaughn, and (well, okay, a slightly different version by) Stan Freberg. All but the Freberg version were in the top 20 at the same time! There were three top 10 versions of Let Me Go, Lover in 1955. Simultaneously. Happened a lot back then.... ---Dan -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2004 00:36:56 -0000 From: Dave O'Gara Subject: Nancy & Lee Maybe it was just the fact that I was a teenager in the 60's, but back then I thought Summer Wine by Lee and Nancy was just the "coolest" song. I didn't have a clue what it was about back then, but whenever I heard it on the radio, I cranked up the volume. Dave 0' -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 21:13:19 EDT From: Woppo88 Subject: Re: Shangri-las footage... I have seen a little bit of when the Shangs were on "Upbeat" in 1967 and there is also a Ganser twin missing. I'd guess it's Margie, but I know Maryann was gone for a while too. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 19:26:51 -0700 From: Alan Warner Subject: Gene Pitney - There's No Livin' Without Your Lovin' Ken Silverwood's memories about THERE'S NO LIVIN' WITHOUT YOUR LOVIN' being recorded by Manfred Mann reminds me that Peter & Gordon also cut it, I think after Manfred. And didn't Mink DeVille revive it in the 80's? FYI, one of its writers was Paul Kaufman who had earlier co-authored Johnny Tillotson's million-seller, POETRY IN MOTION. Rock on! Alan Warner -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 23:29:21 -0400 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: more Bobby & I Now playing at musica, pt. 2 of the Bobby & I trilogy. The song is titled "5:09," a train time (although the Yahoo server doesn't seem to like colons in its file names, so it appears there as "509"). It's the one song on the album co-written by Bobby & I, aka Ken Fischler and Bobby Burch. The third installment will be their take -- a compiex and lovely arrangement -- on "Best Of Both Worlds." Dig, --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 18:16:56 -0500 From: Steve Jarrell Subject: Re: O'Kaysions watcher markt439: > The O'Kaysions, the group that did the soul pop classic "I'm A Girl > Watcher," recorded an LP for Cotillion (the Atlantic subsidiary). > Does anyone know if it was ever released? It was given a label number, > but I've never seen it or heard of anyone having it. You might find the answer to the O'Kaysions album by reaching Donnie Weaver. He was the original lead singer of the N.C. group. He has just joined the Embers band from Raleigh, N.C. They should have a web page. Good luck, Steve Jarrell -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2004 05:59:53 +0100 From: Eric Charge Subject: Re: Strandeds In The Jungle Guy Lawrence wrote: > I now own five versions of "Stranded In The Jungle" ... Has anybody > got any more to add? Has nobody mentioned Shorty Long's fab Motown version of the song (credited to Johnson - Smith - Curry)? It's from his "Here Comes The Judge" album dated 1968 and was released as a single on the Soul label in May of that year. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 22:04:41 -0400 From: Mikey Subject: David Gates & the Lively Set Picked up an interesting 45 today on my way home from work. The 1960s Capitol "Swirl" label always catches my eye. It's called "Let The Trumpets Sound" by a group called The Lively Set (NOT the Lively Ones of "Surf Rider" fame). It's on Capitol 5723, orange/yellow swirl, and the cool thing is that the song was written by David Gates!!!! The flip is "The Green Years", the theme to the alfred Hitchcock movie "The Torn Curtain". Both sides produced by David Axlerod. From the matrix numbers in the deadwax, it appears "Let" is the A side. It's a groovy record, to be sure. Condition of my copy is almost new. So, anyone know anything about this 45? Mikey -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 21:08:18 -0700 From: Gary Myers Subject: Re: Barry Mandilow & telerevisionism Phil Milstein: > He also played "Brandy," ... I would like to give him the benefit > of the doubt by supposing that he revised his recall of the song's > original title for the sake of simplicity ... I'm not sure what we are doubting, but in case this helps any: The original "Mandy" was "Brandy", charted by Scott English in 1972. It's my understanding that Clive Davis changed it to "Mandy" because of the other "Brandy" by Looking Glass, just a few years before Manilow did the song in question. I somehow think this may be common knowledge in here, but maybe not. gem -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 20:42:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Artie Wayne Subject: Re: California Nights How Ya'll Doin'? In the 60's my partner Kelli Ross and I ran Leslie Gore's publishing companies out of 1650 B'way and "California Nights" was the last in a long string of her hits. I liked the song personally and everytime I heard it, I was drawn more and more to the West Coast. When it snowed on Easter, and cancelled out a "Love-In" in Central Park I was looking forward to, I sold my interest in Allouette prods. and a week later I moved to Hollywood. regards, Artie Wayne -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2004 03:13:18 EDT From: Jim Allio Subject: Re: California Nights / A Brand New Me / Oh Me, Oh My Previously: > A Brand New Me by Dusty Springfield > Oh Me, Oh My by Lulu > California Nights by Lesley Gore Three of my all time favorite late-1960s singles with three of the best vocalists of the day stretching a bit within their genres, Dusty with the Philly Sound, Lulu with Muscle Shoals, and Lesley with Bob Crewe's particular wall of sound. Also three of the most wistful, dreamy, soulful and evocative tracks of the day...and all three have stood the test of time and retained their immediacy. Jim Allio -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2004 01:30:14 EDT From: Dan Nowicki Subject: Re: Nancy & Lee 3 Amazon.com has "Nancy & Lee 3" for the unneighborly price of $35.99. (Actually, it looks like some of Amazon's "new and used" dealers are offering it cheaper . . . ) Dan N. Phoenix, Arizona, U.S.A. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2004 03:22:37 EDT From: Al Kooper Subject: Bob Brass Previously: > That Alan Gordon, you are the MAN! ! !  I had to check my DJ copy of > "Coney Island Sally" by The (one and only) Fifth Estate to make sure > after I read Mike Edwards' post citing it and other terrific songs > penned by S'pop members.  Sure enough, you and Bob Brass co-wrote this > amazing sunshine-pop for Wayne Wadhams and friends!  Alan, you co-wrote a song with BOB BRASS????? I have to read the story of that !!! Al Kooper -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2004 03:45:49 EDT From: Al Kooper Subject: Re: The girls on Gene Piyney's Hawaii Tom: > To me, when I hear those girls start singing on Hawaii, I find it > as refreshing as a Hawaiian breeze. Although I think Pitney is > incredible, I fell in love with that track just because of that > sound.  Just my cup of tea.    There's just two kinds of people in the world, Tom. Why cant we fall in love? Hey, I love the Shangri-las, The Angels, etc. The girls on Hawaiii drive me up a tree. I really like that song and was excited when we wrote it. They ruined Gene's record for me. I'm glad that you got something else out of it. I just cant imagine how...... Al "Brooklyn" Kooper -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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