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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: "Boys Cry" (Eden Kane/The Four Coins)
From: Phil Chapman
2. Greenwich/Barry CD
From: Matt
3. Buddy Buie
From: Gary Myers
4. Re: "Bubblegum" CD series
From: John Berg
5. Dance The Topsy / Blue in Black
From: Phil X Milstein
6. Boys Cry
From: Frank M
7. the Ballad of Wendy & Gary / viva "Zapata"!
From: Phil X Milstein
8. Re: Boys Cry
From: Phil X Milstein
9. Bill Lowrey; Glen Campbell; musica selections
From: Country Paul
10. Re: Strandeds In The Jungle
From: Paul Urbahns
11. Overplayed on ads; Brother Ray; George & Gene
From: Country Paul
12. John Braheny!
From: Country Paul
13. McCartney article
From: Country Paul
14. Gary Lewis movie songs
From: thirteen_eagle
15. The Ghost And Mr. Chicken soundtrack
From: Mark Hill
16. Re: Overplayed on ads / Romantics chart positions
From: Sebastian Fonzeus
17. Re: Follow up songs
From: Jan Kristensen
18. Re: Overplayed on ads
From: Lloyd Davis
19. Re: Buddy Buie
From: Nick Archer
20. Re: "Bubblegum" CD series
From: Rat Pfink
21. Re: Glen Campbell
From: Al Wagenaar
22. Re: Eden Kane / "Boys Cry"
From: Clark Besch
23. Re: Ides Of March
From: Clark Besch
24. Re: Overplayed on ads
From: Joe Nelson
25. The Genius
From: Mike Rashkow
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 21:08:40 +0100
From: Phil Chapman
Subject: Re: "Boys Cry" (Eden Kane/The Four Coins)
Country Paul:
> One note about The Four Coins -- I've mentioned a very fine Merseybeat-
> style song they did on Joy in 1964, "Boys Cry," covered exceptionally
> well by Eden Kane in the UK. The record stands tall in its own right,
> but it's hard to believe this is the same group that did "Three Coins
> In The Fountain"!
Wasn't "Three Coins....." by the Four Aces?
Always loved Eden Kane's "Boys Cry" (wr. Buddy Kaye & Tommy Scott,
"with accompaniment directed by Les Reed"). So much so that in '79
I recorded a (possibly incongruous) Spectorised version with a young
northern band called the Distractions, who had a female bass-player,
and the only band I've ever seen snap a bass string!
EK's 'follow-up', "Rain Rain Go Away", is not too bad either, if
rather lightweight.
PC
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 18:19:14 -0000
From: Matt
Subject: Greenwich/Barry CD
I have a copy of the Polygram promo I Can Hear Music: The Songs of
Greenwich and Barry and was wondering if anybody could give me some
advice as to what I should do with it. I've heard mixed reactions
about its content but it's still pretty good. Should I sell it?
Let me know your thoughts by emailing me 0ff-list.
Matt
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 12:02:55 -0700
From: Gary Myers
Subject: Buddy Buie
Phil M:
> ... Buddy Buie?
Buie co-wrote several hits for the Classics IV (whom he produced) and
Atlanta Rhythm Section (of which he was a member). Stormy, Traces, So
Into You, Do It Or Die, others.
gem
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 14:52:36 EDT
From: John Berg
Subject: Re: "Bubblegum" CD series
The "Fading Yellow" series of CD comps has received some (just)
attention here over the past year or two. Now a question about
another series. A friend here in the Northwest area recently
received over 20 CDs of a series of compilations that are loosely
titled "Bubblegum Motherfu&#rs" (sorry, I'm just quoting the title
the compilers used!). It seems there may be over 30 CDs in this
series, and each contains 25-30 songs, which would mean over 700
songs compiled! DOES ANYONE ON THIS LIST KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS
MYSTERIOUS SERIES? Best we can figure, it comes from Japan, but
there is no detail on any of the CDs to reveal the origin. The
music is for the most part very good, not all "bubblegum" in fact.
A lot would better fit the "Spectropop genre".
John Berg
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 16:48:17 +0000
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Dance The Topsy / Blue in Black
Any of y'all familiar with Cozy Cole's 1958 hit instrumental
("hitstrumental") "Topsy, Pts. 1 & 2"? Listening to it today for the
first time in a long time, it occurred to me that the spoken intro Cole
uses on both sides -- a simple announcement of the side's title -- is
strikingly similar to that used on Phil Spector's (as "The Crystals")
"Dance The Screw." Of course such an approach is an obvious enough
solution to the "problem," and so the similarity could be merely
coincidental, but the cadence and even voice used on Spector's is so
similar to that of Cole's that it does sound to me like a conscious
homage. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that both (all three,
really, counting both sides of "Topsy") intros were uttered by Larry
Levine.
Came across another amazing factoid in the "Billboard's Book Of One-Hit
Wonders." According to Carl Perkins himself, it was none other than
Johnny Cash who gave him the idea to write a song with the title "Blue
Suede Shoes." Here I'd always associated that song "solely" with Perkins
and Elvis, when in fact the genesis of "Blue Suede Shoes" was with the
Man In Black. Will wonders never ...
--Phil M.
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 00:16:53 +0100
From: Frank M
Subject: Boys Cry
Previously:
> someone sent me a comp tape that included Eden Kane's "Boys Cry," and
> I liked the song so much I incorporated it into the repertoire of the
> acoustic rock duo I'm a part of. We're still doing it today. I had no
> idea this song had U.S. origins. Who is the composer?
Buddy Kaye and Tommy Scott wrote it I think for Eden Kane. Anyway his
version charted feb 1964. It was also covered in French (Garcons
Pleurent) by Richard Anthony.
Here's an obit for Buddy Kaye:
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/britmusical/buddyk.htm
FrankM
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 22:23:29 -0400
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: the Ballad of Wendy & Gary / viva "Zapata"!
Chaz wrote:
> In answer to a flood of request, I have played to musica Wendy Hill's
> (Gary, Please Don't Sell) My Diamond Ring, an effort to thwart Gary
> Lewis, who a few months earlier had asked who wanted to buy it.
That is some whompin' track they came up with there! Curious who
produced it, and what sort of writing credit the song received. It seems
that more answer songs than not use the same melody as the song they're
responding to.
Martin Roberts wrote:
> "ZAPATA" (why, even the name is exciting!) is the title of the
> ROTW playing on the home page. Recorded by Jack and written by
> Lee Hazlewood, it's the last in their season of collaborations
> and definitely worth a listen:
> http://www.spectropop.com/JackNitzsche/index.htm
Love this'n, too ... although I wonder if Mr. Alpert had anything to say
about it ...
--Phil M.
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 22:38:39 -0400
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Re: Boys Cry
Mike McKay wrote:
> Wow, that's a new one on me! A few years ago, someone sent me a comp tape
> that included Eden Kane's "Boys Cry," and I liked the song so much I
> incorporated it into the repertoire of the acoustic rock duo I'm a part of.
> We're still doing it today. I had no idea this song had U.S. origins. Who
> is the composer, and any chance you could play this to Musica, Paul? I'd
> love to hear it.
Say no more -- on Paul's behalf, I've gone ahead and posted it. Plus
I've got an excellent Barney Kessel tribute to play there, just as soon
as some space frees up.
Dig,
--Phil M.
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 01:44:58 -0400
From: Country Paul
Subject: Bill Lowrey; Glen Campbell; musica selections
RIP Bill Lowrey. I believe he also published a bunch of Ray Stevens' output
and many, many others (look for Low-Sal and Low-Twi Publishing among other
imprints). Re: Buddy Buie, he produced and was in the Atlanta Rhythm Section
and wrote a bunch of country hits. See
http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=Bxxem97b7krat
Also in the news:
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Glen Campbell Gets Jail Time for DUI
By AMANDA LEE MYERS
Associated Press Writer
PHOENIX - Country music singer Glen Campbell was sentenced Tuesday to 10
nights in jail and two years of probation for a November drunken-driving
hit-and-run collision.
"Believe you me, I think that's the last you've seen of Glen Campbell
putting alcohol in his veins," Campbell told the judge at his sentencing
Tuesday.
Campbell pleaded guilty in May to leaving the scene of an accident and
extreme driving under the influence. On Tuesday, the judge sentenced
Campbell to 10 days in the county jail but granted a request for a work
furlough from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m.
Campbell's attorney, Larry Kazan, said the 68-year-old needed the furlough
for his full-time rehearsal and practice schedule. Prosecutor Michael Denney
said he had no objections to the release schedule.
Campbell will serve his sentence starting July 1 and is barred from drinking
alcohol during his probation term. He also was sentenced to 75 hours of
community service and fined $900.
"They say there's a first time for everything; that's what this is like,"
Campbell said during the hearing. "I wish it would have happened a long time
ago so I wouldn't have to go through this now."
The singer was arrested at his Phoenix home Nov. 24 after causing a minor
traffic accident and then leaving the scene. No one was injured.
Extreme DUI applies to a blood-alcohol level of 0.15 or higher. Police said
breath tests indicated Campbell had a 0.20 blood-alcohol level at the time
of his arrest. The legal limit for Arizona drivers is 0.08.
Kazan said the incident happened during a time when alcohol ruled Campbell's
life, but that now the singer has a handle on the addiction and a "rosy
prognosis" from doctors.
Friends and fans of Campbell were in the courtroom Tuesday. Some came from
as far as California.
"You're not going to meet anyone nicer than him," said Simi Valley resident
Lynnie Sadowski, who drove to Arizona for the hearing and said she has been
a fan of Campbell's for 35 years. "It's great of him to admit it and be
accountable for his actions."
Campbell has lived in Arizona more than two decades. His hits include
"Rhinestone Cowboy," "Galveston," "Gentle on My Mind" and "By the Time I Get
to Phoenix."
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On musica - from Chaz:
> Wendy Hill's (Gary, Please Don't Sell) My Diamond Ring, an effort
> to thwart Gary Lewis, who a few months earlier had asked who wanted
> to buy it.
> ...my apologies to Mr. Kooper for bringing this up. :)
Gee, I used to like this song before she did it....
>From Clark:
> Ides of March..."Nobody Loves Me" is a simply wonderful song that
> might have been a non-charter because of it's rather downer message,
> but what great music and harmonizing.
What a far cry from "Vehicle," too, which may be why I like it. That, and
the half-quoted folk classic "The Gypsy Rover," which, by the Highwaymen,
still ranks among my favorites of the era.
>From Clark again:
> ...[A] silly Dr. Pepper jingle that is obviously a tribute to Mick
> Patrick's "Hey la"! Yes, it gets a little monotonous after awhile,
> but nice little guitar outro that we likely never heard on the radio
> in 1970.
It's kinda cool in a Hey-Judish sort of way. So where did they air a
3:37-long jingle anyway?
Mike McKay Re: "Boys Cry" (Eden Kane/The Four Coins)
> I had no idea this song had U.S. origins. Who is the composer, and
> any chance you could play this to Musica, Paul? I'd love to hear it.
Writer credit is "Scott and Kaye"; no other details available. And the
remarkable Phil Milstein has heard your wish and played it to musica. (Good
thing, too; I have the record, but no way to get it from vinyl to
electrons!)
And from Martin Roberts, "Zapata" at
http://www.spectropop.com/JackNitzsche/index.htm:
You're sure this isn't from a soundtrack to a spaghetti western?!? :-) They
sure spent a bunch on the recording session for a little "thank you." And
thank you for posting it!
Country Paul
(riding off into the sunset)
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 21:48:32 EDT
From: Paul Urbahns
Subject: Re: Strandeds In The Jungle
Previously:
> On purchasing Shout's new Vibrations CD, "Out Of Sight!! The
> Checker Years" (www.cherryred.co.uk), it occurred to me that I
> now own five versions of "Stranded In The Jungle" - The Cadets,
> the Jayhawks, Jett Powers (aka P.J. Proby), the New York Dolls
> and now the Vibrations. I'm guessing there must be more.
I am going on my memory here, but I have an album here someplace
on the Crown, Tops or some other cheap label and it has the song
Stranged In The Jungle with new lyrics so it is the Story of Elvis
Presley. It's a female singer singing the song, and sounds like it
was done in the late 50s. I have no idea how rare it is, but fairly
well done.
Paul Urbahns
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 00:20:52 -0400
From: Country Paul
Subject: Overplayed on ads; Brother Ray; George & Gene
Phil M. wrote:
> Just when you thought it was safe to turn the TV audio on again, along
> comes the 4,527th commercial with The Romantics' "What I Like About You"
> on its soundtrack. ... P.S. Is it as overexposed elsewhere as it is in
> the U.S.?
What IS it about this song? It was a mid-sized hit when new, but it just
won't die. This group never had another hit, did they? But this is already a
pop-rock "standard"....
Mike McKay:
> "Nobody But Me," by my hometown heroes The Human Beinz. Vapid
> creative directors just can't seem to resist that "no no no no
> no no" riff.
Usually car ads hereabouts, with some big-voiced bozo shouting "no money
down, no payments till June!"
Clark Besch:
> Ray Charles, It's cryin' time again....I cried when Lennon died....
Still can't believe Brother Ray died. You're right - timeless music. I
confess I cried withn Buddy Holly died. I was 13, but I'd been listening to
rock & roll and pop music for 3 years already, and I truly knew what it
meant. He was the first major rock & roll guy to go, and I just "got it"
about him, right away. I was sad about Ritchie Valens, too, but I know some
of that is in the prism of the past. But with Holly, I knew immediately. And
I know immediately with Ray Charles, a true American - and world - icon.
Clark adds, "my fave was "What'd I Say". One of a handful of songs I've felt
no one could do a bad version of..." You never heard my first college band,
I guess! :-0
David Coyle Re: Favorite obscure Pitney song:
> Gene'searly '60s album with George Jones. I have the LP and two tracks
> from it appear on that Sanctuary double CD set. "I've Got Five Dollars
> And It's Saturday Night" is an enjoyable version of Faron Young's hit,
> but it's on their duet version of "One Has My Name (The Other Has My
> Heart)" that their harmonic abilities shine.
"Five Dollars" was a significant country hit when I was doing country radio
the first time, back in '66-68.
Country Paul
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 00:50:08 -0400
From: Country Paul
Subject: John Braheny!
Wow - miss S'pop for three days and amazing people show up! John, welcome to
the group. Thanks to Spectropop, some of my favorite artists who I thought
disappeared back into the woodwork of the real world have been showing up in
my life.
Regarding your comments, I was never aware of Fred Neil's recording of
"December Dream" - especially since it wasn't released until recently - but
I can half-imagine it in my mind. I think your version would have been a
great 45; I know it got some serious play at WBRU in Providence, as did the
Stone Poneys' version. I saw live in NYC at around that time; I think they
did "December Dream" in their set, but the memory is hazy. I can tell you
that the line, "Love at anytime at all / Is worth the price you pay to fall"
certainly had strong resonance with me and my insane love life at the time,
and still does now that I've been lucky enough to find "the one." And yes,
I'd love to see the story you wrote for Richie Unterberger. I'm surprised
that he missed your writer credit, as I consider him an erudite and thorough
researcher. But hey, who's perfect? (Certainly not me!)
By the way, John, your album was a "frequent flyer" on my home turntable,
especially side one all the way through, although side 2 has some great
stuff too, like "Free Fall." Looking again at the album cover (it's too late
to play it tonight - my wife's asleep already), I notice in the credits
"Special thanks to Donna Michelle...." Question: the legendary Playboy
Playmate? And particularly if the answer is yes, may I ask if and how she
was involved with the album's creation?
A few more questions, if I may: Is Rick Cunha still around? If so, is he
still involved with music? (I loved Cunha & Dawson's "Yoyo Man" - got the
45.) I also have a version of "Warm," also a Pete 45, by Carol Stromme -
although I find her rendition a bit "overheated." Who is/was she, please?
Also, noticing I own quite a few releases on Pete, could you pass along some
more information on who Pete was/is, please? And since you were so tied into
several of the artists, were you part of the operation as well as one of the
artists?
Thanks in advance, and again, welcome to the club!
A very happy
Country Paul
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 17:00:08 -0400
From: Country Paul
Subject: McCartney article
I'm a few days behind, but I thought this was important to post from
the Los Angeles Times:
http://www.calendarlive.com/music/cl-et-lewis15jun15,2,2218866.story
(website available only by subscription, so the full article is below)
[section] POP BEAT
[headline] Magic of Beatles songs indelible?
[sub-head] Paul McCartney's comments about drug use fall on deaf ears
for the most part.
By Randy Lewis, Times Staff Writer
Jun 15 2004
How different might "(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction" sound if Mick Jagger
revealed that the Rolling Stones' classic was really about his failure
to get a faulty toaster replaced under warranty? What if it were just a
missing contact lens that inspired Bono to write U2's "I Still Haven't
Found What I'm Looking For"?
Paul McCartney has done something like that for Beatles fans by telling
an interviewer that "Got to Get You Into My Life" is "directly about pot,
'Day Tripper,' that's one about acid, and 'Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds,'
that's pretty obvious."
The lengthy interview in the July issue of England's Uncut magazine spans
a variety of subjects, but what's got music fans buzzing is McCartney's
assertion that not only were certain Beatles songs written during the Fab
Four's days of drug experimentation but also that the songs themselves
refer to drug experiences.
McCartney, who turns 62 on Friday, noted: "Just about everyone was doing
drugs in one form or another and we were no different, but the writing
was too important for us to mess it up by getting off our heads all the
time."
Will McCartney's comments change "Got to Get You Into My Life" for those
who have long enjoyed it simply as a bouncy, horn-drenched love song?
"You like more information if you can get it, but sometimes it does shatter
illusions," says Pete Howard, publisher of the record collectors' magazine
ICE and a specialist in Beatles lore.
"The Beatles gave so many interviews, and I don't think I ever heard the
lyrics for 'Day Tripper' described as coming from an acid trip. So there's
that feeling of disappointment on one side of the coin. But it is the
creator of the music talking."
Others note that the bad taste left in fans' mouths by dubious extra-musical
associations, such as the licensing of the Beatles' "Revolution" to Nike for
a 1987 shoe campaign, haven't hurt those songs in the long run.
"It didn't ruin the songs 24 years ago when John Lennon explained virtually
track by track who wrote what," Rolling Stone deputy managing editor Joe
Levy says. "It maybe took away a little of the mystique of two guys working
shoulder to shoulder, singing melodies into each other's ears and bouncing
lyrics off one another. Suddenly you knew that only some of the songs were
written that way."
In some cases, knowing the real-world genesis of a song can even boost its
appeal.
"When I found out reading George's 'I Me Mine' that the song 'Wah Wah' is not
about a guitar pedal, it's about Paul giving him a headache, I liked it
better," says Chris Carter, host of the weekly "Breakfast With the Beatles" radio
show on KLSX-FM (97.1).
"But the fact that 'Yesterday' started out as 'Scrambled Eggs' never did much
for me," he adds. "Sometimes the process isn't as interesting as the end
result."
In Carter's view, whether new information negatively or positively affects
listeners' feelings about a song is all about context.
"When I find out what one of my favorite songs is about, it all depends on
how it's delivered," he says. "If you seek it out, take the time to read a
book about an artist you're interested in, then you're kind of looking for
it. But what happens with a lot of these things, it becomes a news item and
they sensationalize it, and some fans don't like it."
Some artists don't either. In 1998, when George Michael gave CNN an interview
during which he told viewers that he was gay, he added an assurance aimed at
preserving fans' original responses to his songs: "I do want people to know
that the songs that I wrote when I was with women were really about women,
and the songs that I've written since have been fairly obvious about men."
Because explaining songs can be perilous, some songwriters — Bob Dylan
heading the list — steadfastly refuse to discuss the sources of inspiration for
individual songs, or what particular lyrics may have meant, preferring that
listeners impose their own interpretations.
"I'm a technician and engineer, so as a songwriter, I like that kind of
information," says singer-songwriter J.J. Cale, the composer of "After Midnight"
and one of the rock era's least ambiguously drug-related songs, "Cocaine," both
famously covered by Eric Clapton. "But as far as the old songs I grew up with,
I have my own ideas about what those songs mean, so just as a listener, it
can be unfortunate. So it's good and bad."
There's also been a debate since McCartney's interview came out over how much
credence to give his comments, especially those that contradict previous
explanations of such songs as "Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds."
"John went to great lengths insisting that the song was not tied to LSD, that
it was tied to a painting [his son] Julian made in school," Howard says.
"John's explanation was very credible ... and now for Paul, in the 21st century,
to tie it to LSD, it's like he's talking out of school. I found myself a bit
disappointed."
And some have noted that McCartney's interview also contradicts his own words
about "Got to Get You Into My Life," which he described in a 1966 interview
as his tribute to Motown.
Few, however, expect that McCartney's comments will rob Beatles songs of any
of their magic.
"The songs are a major part of my interior wallpaper, so it is unlikely that
anything Paul says today would change my feelings about them," says Kenneth
Killiany, an English lecturer at Catholic University of America in Washington,
D.C., who writes a blog on the Internet that often touches on the Beatles.
"As far as my understanding of them, ever since I found out that 'Dr. Robert'
was about their dealer," Killiany says, "I pretty much figured that for that
period, the druggiest interpretation of any song was probably the most
accurate."
Says Rolling Stone's Levy: "We're talking about Beatles songs here.... They
exert their power independent of anyone's explanation or analysis. I don't
think anybody ever listened to the Beatles through the filter of any critic's
interpretations, and I don't think now they'll listen through the filter of Paul's
explanation.... I think the songs are pretty safe."
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Country Paul
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 04:09:50 -0000
From: thirteen_eagle
Subject: Gary Lewis movie songs
Previously:
> Anyway, GARY Lewis did the great theme to the movie. I was so excited
> when the Legendary Masters Cd came out that this song was on it! Then,
> I played it and it's the WRONG version! How many takes did they do
> for this knockoff? Anyway, has anyone ever found the CORRECT movie
> version on vinyl or CD? Maybe the soundtrack has the movie version?
Along those same lines, is Gary's "Malibu Run" from the movie "Out of
Sight" out on CD? I have the Decca soundtrack LP in stereo but it
sounds very echo-y; is there a nice clean mix somewhere?
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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 02:58:47 -0400
From: Mark Hill
Subject: The Ghost And Mr. Chicken soundtrack
Clark Besch:
> Was there a soundtrack (to "Way Way Out"), or was it another like
> "The Ghost & Mr. Chicken" (Vic Mizzy at his best) that seems to
> have had great music, but not a soundtrack?
Now at last, there *is* a GHOST AND MR. CHICKEN soundtrack! Get it at
http://www.percepto.com along with many other Mizzy soundtracks, from
his original tapes.
I wrote a tribute page for "The Ghost and Mr. Chicken" found here:
http://www.kiddiematinee.com/g-gmchicken.html
Hear Vic Mizzy tracks and music from and related to MR. CHICKEN, in the
FILES section here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/popmusicpopculture
Mark Hill
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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 11:31:02 +0200
From: Sebastian Fonzeus
Subject: Re: Overplayed on ads / Romantics chart positions
Phil M. wrote:
> The Romantics' "What I Like About You" ... What IS it about this song?
> It was a mid-sized hit when new, but it just won't die. This group
> never had another hit, did they?
"What I Like About You" peaked at #49 in 1979 (their self-titled debut
album from 1980 went to #61). But they did have a major hit with "Talking
In Your Sleep" (#3 in Feb. 1984) and to a lesser extent with "One In A
Million" (top-40, late 1984). The album which these tunes were taken from,
"In Heat", peaked at #14 and spent 36 weeks on the chart.
Take care!
/Sebastian
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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 07:45:47 +0200
From: Jan Kristensen
Subject: Re: Follow up songs
Superoldies:
> Has anyone heard or have "I'm The Girl From The Sugar Shack" by
> Georgia ......?
Could it be "Sugar Shack Queen" by Georgia Lynn on Challenge from 1963?
JanK
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Message: 18
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 10:31:42 -0400
From: Lloyd Davis
Subject: Re: Overplayed on ads
Previously:
> "Nobody But Me," by my hometown heroes The Human Beinz. Vapid creative
> directors just can't seem to resist that "no no no no no no" riff.
> Usually car ads hereabouts, with some big-voiced bozo shouting "no money
> down, no payments till June!"
Car dealers also seem to have a fondness for the Chambers Brothers' "Time
Has Come Today." Because, of course, their low, low interest rates or high,
high rebates are only being offered for a limited TIME!!! Or because you
can pay over 60 months instead of 48, so you've got more TIME!!! In these
parts, the tune has been licensed by Hyundai, Honda, and if I'm not
mistaken, Toyota. Sometimes a needle drop, sometimes not.
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Message: 19
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 05:32:42 -0500
From: Nick Archer
Subject: Re: Buddy Buie
A short story..
Back in 1977 I was programming an album rock station in Winston-Salem,
North Carolina, and went to see a concert at the Greensboro Coliseum,
a 15,000 seat arena. The bill was a Capitol act called Starz, The
Atlanta Rhythm Section, and Bob Seger. The record company promo guy
had gone to high school with Bob, and invited me back to a hospitality
suite at the local Hilton hotel. I was talking with him and Bob Seger
when Buddy came into the room, dragging a guy. He said "Hey everybody,
look who I found singing in the lounge!". It was Billy Joe Royal. Buddy
said, "I wrote Cherry Hill Park for this SOB". It was pretty surreal
talking to all three of these guys at once. Of course, if I had been a
Spectropop member then I would have had a lot more to talk about with
all of them.
Nick Archer
Nashville TN
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Message: 20
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 10:02:21 -0400
From: Rat Pfink
Subject: Re: "Bubblegum" CD series
John Berg wrote:
> A friend here in the Northwest area recently received over 20 CDs
> of a series of compilations that are loosely titled "Bubblegum
> Motherfu&#rs" (sorry, I'm just quoting the title the compilers used!).
> It seems there may be over 30 CDs in this series, and each contains
> 25-30 songs, which would mean over 700 songs compiled! DOES ANYONE
> ON THIS LIST KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS MYSTERIOUS SERIES? Best we can
> figure, it comes from Japan, but there is no detail on any of the
> CDs to reveal the origin.
The series was actually up to 40 volumes when the seller suddenly
disappeared from eBay. It was mentioned on another list that the
compiler (who was definitely not from Japan. The series were out-and-
out bootlegs and the compiler was just using the Japan story as a cover)
had run into some sort of financial problems involving an ex-girlfriend
(or wife?) who hijacked his eBay, PayPal and email accounts (he
originally used the eBay handle "dustgod", then switched to
"hairlesspider" for a while.)
Anyway, they no longer appear to be available via the compiler and
volumes 32-40 are very hard to come by.
Here's a tracklist for the entire series, as well as the companion series
"BubblePop MFs":
http://www.soybomb.com/ratpfink/tracklists/bubblegum-mf.htm
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Message: 21
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 14:34:11 -0000
From: Al Wagenaar
Subject: Re: Glen Campbell
Glen Campbell......can't belive how underated he is in this day and
age.........recently a Campbell box set came out....and I found it to
be incredible that they missed his vocal on "My World Fell Down"...
which he has commented on as being his best vocal ever........
Al Wagenaar
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Message: 22
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 15:17:42 -0000
From: Clark Besch
Subject: Re: Eden Kane / "Boys Cry"
I've never heard any of Kane's stuff until 1980 when a girlfriend
played "Forget Me Not" that she had gotten from her sister who had
visited England and brought this record back. That song really
knocked me out! Went out and got a US copy as well as his UK hit
"Well I ask You", but didn't care for the latter. Anyway, did a
search for Cd availability and it seems there is a new Kane greatest
hits Cd coming out thru Woolworth's of the UK! Maybe you English
folk can explain that one, but it will have "Boys Cry" and the
others. Says available July 4. Clark
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Message: 23
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 15:24:52 -0000
From: Clark Besch
Subject: Re: Ides Of March
Me:
> The Ides Of March are still going strong today in Chicago ...
Gary Myers:
> Did the band exist during the time Jim Peterik was with Survivor?
> I had the impression that Peterik re-organized them after Survivor?
Gary, you are correct. In fact, Jim now has 3 bands, I believe,
going at the same time. Some new band, plus Survivor and the Ides,
playing in all 3. The Ides concerts include a handful of Ides
60's/70's, a few Survivor songs, some cool later songs, one 38
Special hit he wrote and various others. They are progressing with
the band all the time and keeping things interesting. Current Cryan
Shames vocalist, Bob Stroud, calls them a GREAT band today. Clark
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Message: 24
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 10:44:59 -0400
From: Joe Nelson
Subject: Re: Overplayed on ads
Previously:
> What IS it about this song? It was a mid-sized hit when new, but it
> just won't die. This group never had another hit, did they? But this
> is already a pop-rock "standard"....
Actually, the Romantics' "Talking In Your Sleep" circa 1984 was a
bigger hit. But of course, it was "What I Like About You" that became
the classic.
Joe Nelson
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Message: 25
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 09:58:01 EDT
From: Mike Rashkow
Subject: The Genius
Ray Charles Robinson (the real Sugar Ray) was beyond definition or
deification.
I heard him first as a kid of 12. Saw him live 5 times--the best was
in LA at the Shrine Auditorium back in about 1962. It was a huge
place and essentially an all black audience. That one was way better
than all the others put together (which were typically in white venues)
he was on fire!
Anyway, I wish I could have had the chance to tell him the following
story. Since I can't do that, I'll tell it to you.
About 15 years ago when I was living in a condo with my wife Barbara,
the sound system I had shared an AC outlet with a lamp--and that outlet
was activated by the wall switch just inside the front door. When you
walked in and turned on the light, you turned on the system. I found
that convenient.
I was out one evening and had happened to leave the Atlantic "Ray
Charles Birth Of Soul Vol. 2 " CD in the player. That disc is the one
on which the first track is "I've Got A Woman".
As most of you likely know, usually when one turns sound systems with a
CD in place, the CD will start without the need to do anything further
--and if you know the record, you'll know that it begins with Ray's
voice, acapella, deeply and sensuously saying "well". If you don't
remember it, check it out.
So, my beloved comes home, flips on the light and hears a black man in
her house saying "well" in a fashion completely sufficient to cause her
to wet her pants during the one second before the band kicks in.
She swears I did it on purpose and that it took a year off her life. I
didn't do it on purpose, but now that I've told you the tale, if anyone
out there has a lady friend who they would like to give a heart attack,
you have complete instructions.
I have the picture in my mind of Brother Ray hearing this story and
hugging himself and bending over laughing that unique way he did.
FYI. It ain't great but it's likely quite different than anything you've
heard from him before. A 2 CD set on Ebony. The "Down Beat Swing Time"
recordings 1949 to 1952--very interesting to hear him then--searching for
a style, sounding like Nat King Cole. Maybe I'll put something up on
Musica from that.
Reagan and Ray in the same week. God clearly has s sense of humor. One
going direct to heaven, the other...
More than anyone else, Ray brought real black music to the white audience.
For that alone he deserves the place of honor he will surely have in the
history books.
May he rest in ribs.
Rashkovsky
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