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There are 12 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Carole King demos
From: Mikey
2. Questions 67 & 68
From: Phil Hall
3. Re: For the love of Mike Clifford
From: Julio Niño
4. Smile For Me: A Symphonic Tribute to Brian Wilson
From: Ron Weekes
5. Re: Carole King demos
From: Bob Celli
6. "Six O'Clock Train and a Girl with Green Eyes"
From: ModGirl
7. Re: New Lime
From: Karen Andrew
8. Re: John Summers
From: Bob Rashkow
9. Re: Fess Parker on Glen Campbell Show
From: Andy
10. Re: Barbara Ruskin
From: Mick Patrick
11. Re: Carole King's "It Might As Well Rain Until September" demo
From: Mike Carter
12. Re: For the love of Mike Clifford
From: John Fox
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 16:33:13 -0400
From: Mikey
Subject: Re: Carole King demos
Mark Hill wondered:
> This has me wondering what the chain of availability to "collect
> Carole King demos" would be. How do they get from the demo stage into
> various hands (like Dusty's) and ultimately to ours? Acetates? Vinyl
> records? Tapes? How many copies would there initially be? And how
> were they distributed? How rare of a chance is it for us to hear
> something like a Carole King demo? Any insight would be appreciated.
There is a boot CD on the Brilltone label of like 20 of Carole's demos.
I think I read she gave away a bunch of discs to her babysitter in the
80s. Maybe that's where they came from. However, NONE of the demos that
have appeared in musica are on that boot.
Mikey
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 20:45:56 -0000
From: Phil Hall
Subject: Questions 67 & 68
Two unrelated questions. First, does anyone know if there is a CD
of The McKinley's material, or if they ever released an LP?
Second, to Al Kooper: Did I read that you actually lived in the
Village at one time? I'm going down there again in a couple of
weeks; what street did you live on?
Thanks,
Phil H.
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 20:59:57 -0000
From: Julio Niño
Subject: Re: For the love of Mike Clifford
Hola Everybody.
Phil Milstein:
> There's a short feature on Clifford included in my Feb. 1962
> "Song Hits" recreation, at http://www.aspma.com/temp/SongHits
Thanks a lot Phil for the info about Mike and for the wonderful
Eydie Gorme track you've played to musica, it reminds me a little
of "Blame It On The Bossa Nova". I've found out that I have Mike
Clifford's hit "Close To Cathy" in the ACE compilation, "Teenage
Crush", and also that the booklet of that Cd included a short bio
and a picture of him. According to his hairdo in the image he must
have had an important part of responsibility in the destruction of
the ozone layer.
Chao.
Julio Niño.
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 16:23:21 -0600
From: Ron Weekes
Subject: Smile For Me: A Symphonic Tribute to Brian Wilson
Just wanted to give everyone a heads up on the latest release from Joey
Stec's (of The Millennium) Sonic Past Music label. He has recently
remastered Gary Usher's last and unreleased album from Usher's ill-fated
Together Records label. It is Gary's symphonic tribute to his good
friend Gary Usher. Recorded in 1970 it never saw the light of day due
to Together Records going out of business. This is the same LP that has
been released in Japan on Dreamsville and in the UK on Poptones. The
big difference is Joey has remastered the orginal recordings more
towards the sound preferences of the U.S. stereo systems.
If you have never heard this symphonic tribute I strongly encourage you
to look for it and get it. It includes many of the "Wrecking Crew"
musicians that Brian Wilson used in the studio.
Stec's label has also recently released SHARK FRENZY (Featuring early
recordings of Richie Sambora) and a fabulous compilation of Randy
Meisner's called LOVE ME OR LEAVE ME ALONE. This Meisner compilation
covers material from the 70s through the 90s. Reviews on these will be
posted soon.
Ron Weekes
http://www.garyusher.com
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 21:28:19 -0000
From: Bob Celli
Subject: Re: Carole King demos
Diane aka. Hurdygirl writes:
> I remember reading that Dusty Springfield actually collected Carole
> King demos. Dusty thought they were works of art in their own right.
Mark Hill wonders:
> This has me wondering what the chain of availability to "collect
> Carole King demos" would be. How do they get from the demo stage into
> various hands (like Dusty's) and ultimately to ours? Acetates? Vinyl
> records? Tapes? How many copies would there initially be? And how
> were they distributed? How rare of a chance is it for us to hear
> something like a Carole King demo? Any insight would be appreciated.
>
> Incidentally, that demo of "Go Away Little Girls" was one of the
> greatest gifts yet, provided through members to the Musica files.
> Many thanx!
I can only theorize on how many demos of any given song were made.
As for those that I have posted by Carole King, I would imagine that
at least three were sent to Liberty for Snuff Garrett, Ernie Freeman,
and Bobby Vee. The earliest were 78rpm acetates on the Dick Charles
label. I taped all the ones that I came across while shuffling through
boxes at Bobby's home in the mid eighties. The sheer amount of demos
that he had in his garage were staggering! Boxes and boxes! I wish I
would have had more time to go through them at a slower pace. I'm sure
there were many that I may have missed. I did concentrate first on the
Carole King demos as I wanted to be sure to get them. As I said
before, I'm happy to share them with people who appreciate them. I had
no idea when I was taping them that so many people ultimately would be
so interested. I have one more for "A Forever Kind Of Love" that I
will post after I do a little more work on it. As for collecting the
actual discs; I imagine they would be very very scarce. I recall
seeing a couple for auction in Goldmine back in the early eighties.
Bob Celli
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 21:11:31 -0000
From: ModGirl
Subject: "Six O'Clock Train and a Girl with Green Eyes"
Robert wrote:
> Does anyone know the name of the groovy (believe it or not) song
> Fess Parker did on the Glen Campbell Goodtime Hour? Title may be
> Girl With Green Eyes or Underground Railroad Station. This was
> approximately 1970. And is this an actual record or just a TV
> performance? Have video of some of Glen's shows and always been
> curious about this song. Please help.
That would be a song penned by none other than the mega-talented --
and sadly, deceased -- John Hartford, "Six O'Clock Train and a Girl
with Green Eyes." As you recall, he was Glen's first musical
"sidekick" for the wonderful sessions in the round. Look for his
anthology on Raven Records, "Natural to Be Gone 1967-1970." And I'm
trying hard to imagine Fess Parker "singing"...but then again, that
WAS more of a "talking" song...
Peace & Luv & Flowers & Incense & Peppermints, ModGirl
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 19:31:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: Karen Andrew
Subject: Re: New Lime
Gary M Morris wrote:
> Anybody know of a Midwest 60s group named New Lime? I heard them
> as a kid in the early/mid-60s, living in Cincinnati. They had a
> garage-y sound with a light, harmonic style (as I recall). All
> I've discovered is that they were on Minaret and released at least
> one 45 (probably more). Anybody know *anything* about this group?
> I've looked for a long time.
A couple of oldies stations here in Cincinnati are WSAI-AM and
WGRR-FM. Some of the DJs at both stations have been in Cincinnati
for a long time and might be able to help you out. I've called both
stations in the past and got help with other subjects.
http://www.wgrr.com and here is one phone number: Questions: (513)
699-5103. I also saw where on the WSAI web site you can send an e-mail
- click on contact. Also, here is a phone number: Programming Comments
and Suggestions (513) 333-4242. http://www.wsai.com Other phone numers
listed on the web sites. Hope this helps!
Karen
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 18:24:36 -0400
From: Bob Rashkow
Subject: Re: John Summers
Chris:
> I've recently come across the UK artist John Summers on Pye on the
> Ripples compilations, yet I can't find any more information on him
> as the sleeve notes are very sparse. Both sides of "Looking at
> windows/don't fool yourself" are as good as soft pop as I've heard,
> and apart from a teaser in that he did several singles for the
> labels, there's no other mentions. Can anyone on the group provide
> me with more information please? Even google provides very few hits.
Chris, I know nothing about John Summers, but I never thought he was
English! I have "Don't Fool Yourself" (1966, I believe) on the
Congress label. I believe Congress was out of Pennsylvania or possibly
New York, so he must have gotten some airplay here, even tho the single
never went anywhere--in any case, it's a wonderful record.
Bobster
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 03:48:19 -0000
From: Andy
Subject: Re: Fess Parker on Glen Campbell Show
Rob wrote:
> Does anyone know the name of the groovy (believe it or not) song
> Fess Parker did on the Glen Campbell Goodtime Hour?
The show you mentioned was aired on 3/29/70 and included guests,
Willie Nelson, Sammy Shore, Lilly Tomlin and Fess Parker. Songs in
the show were:
Underground Railroad Station - Fess Parker
Once More With Feeling - Willie Nelson
Columbus - Willie Nelson and Glen
Memphis, TN - Glen
Bach Talk - Instrumental - Glen
Autumn Leaves - Glen
Andy
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 23:29:54 +0100
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Re: Barbara Ruskin
Previously:
> As you'll see if you visit her S'pop page, Barbara Ruskin released
> 16 singles during her career. I think I'm right in saying she wrote
> all but three of the 32 songs herself...
markt439:
> So, when can we look for a nice 32 track Barbara Ruskin CD?
Actually, "A Little Of This: The Barbara Ruskin Songbook" (President
PRCD 153) is out any day now. But only 28 tracks would fit. :-)
Find a complete tracklist and more info at the President website:
http://www.president-records.co.uk/code/cata/ruskin_prcd153.htm
As you'll see, President have some other interesting new releases
too. "Sometimes I Wonder: The Psychedelic Pop Sounds Of President",
for instance, looks to be a must for S'pop-Sike types.
Hey la,
Mick Patrick
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 01:49:35 -0000
From: Mike Carter
Subject: Re: Carole King's "It Might As Well Rain Until September" demo
Rodney R wrote:
> I wonder how many know that Carole King's hit record "It Might as
> Well Rain Until September" IS the demo, targeted I think to Bobby
> Vee, and was released as is because the A&R man involved liked
> Carole's voice.
Long ago when Carole King was championing the singer-songwriter
movement with her early albums "Writer: Carole King" and "Tapestry"
there was major press about her demos having been collected by
industry insiders and that these demos were as good or better than
the records released on the songs. King herself has reported that
people have said to her....why don't you release the demo? And Dusty
said it was hard to beat a Carole King demo.... Maybe this A & R
person thought so too? Donnie Kirshner, perhaps?
What can I say? What can I write? How can I tell you how much I
recently saw the Dick Charles acetate of Goffin and King's "It Might
As Well Rain Until September" over at e-bay for sale for. The
starting bid was $1000.00. Yes, that's ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS. For
some reason I thought that the demo was different from the
Companion/Dimension single, like maybe the demo needed a little
further sweetening, strings added or maybe more strings? Needless to
say, I never found out. I watched that auction and it didn't sell.
But you know dah-ling when these demos are out of reach you never
know when or how they are going to appear. Didn't a Screen Gems
acetate get unearthed in a radio station closet? Seems to me that a
S'popper reported that. And those BrillTone cds are a perfect
example of someone raiding the Aldon vaults. A Carole King demo even
appears on the Brilltone Ellie Greenwich disc. I always thought it
was Mr. M. Patrick and Mr. I. Chapman sneaking in at night with their
flashlights just like that Usher Boy looking for vee good stuff.
Yes, eveerybody loves vee summer time. And it pays to have vee
friends. Thanks Bob C.
-- Mike C.
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 00:41:50 EDT
From: John Fox
Subject: Re: For the love of Mike Clifford
Ironic that Mike Clifford was referred to as Frankie Avalon type.
Mike was in an early if not the original Broadway cast of "Grease",
and sang both "Born To Hand Jive" and "Beauty School Dropout"--the
latter done by Avalon in the Robert Stigwood movie version.
John Fox
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