Spectropop - Digest Number 1571

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• Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004

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There are 21 messages in this issue.


Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: John Carter - Producer & Songwriter
           From: JJ 
      2. Re: The Paris Sisters
           From: Jeffery Kennedy 
      3. The 4-Evers
           From: Justin McDevitt  
      4. Re: John Carter - Producer & Songwriter
           From: Scott Swanson 
      5. Re: Larry Bright & Mojo Workouts
           From: Bryan 
      6. Re: Pitney & Sedaka
           From: Al Kooper 
      7. Re: Everly Brothers - The Ferris Wheel / Lord of the Manor..
           From: Rob 
      8. Joe Meek
           From: J. Stewart 
      9. Re: now playing: Wood
           From: Frank 
     10. Re: Summertime, Summertime
           From: Dave Heasman 
     11. Re: Kyu Sakamoto
           From: Mutsushi Tsuji 
     12. Joe Meek / Kenny Hollywood / Geoff Goddard / Marc Bolan
           From: Alan V. Karr 
     13. The Diplomats
           From: Mick Patrick 
     14. Re: Krystal Generation
           From: James Botticelli 
     15. UnaKustomed as I am
           From: Mike McKay 
     16. Re: which Artie?
           From: Artie Wayne 
     17. Frankie Sardo
           From: Shawn 
     18. Re: Kyu Sakamoto
           From: Bgas 
     19. Re: Like Someone In Love / Bobby Vee
           From: Gary Myers 
     20. Re: upcoming fun in Gnashville
           From: Michael Coxe 
     21. [ INVALID LINK? ] Re: Top Rank
           From: jrnelsonsr@hvc.rr.com


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Message: 1
   Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 09:00:29 -0000
   From: JJ 
Subject: Re: John Carter - Producer & Songwriter

Margaret G. Still wrote:
> There is a Carter-Lewis song called "That's What I Want" - a sweet 
> little minor song that I still hear in my head done with urgent, folk-
> rock or early Beatles "Love Me Do" vocal harmonies. Who did this 
> cover of the song? This is not the Marauders version, and it is not 
> either of the more punk Aussie versions I know of. Who else covered 
> this song, and who did the sweet version I remember?

**Margaret, there is a Great version of "That´s what i want" on the 
Fading Yellow, vol 4, cd comp........THE CANDLELIGHT -UK CBS´67.....and 
they do it in a baroque pop, kinda way, with a great Orch intro......for 
sure, a completely diff kind of version, compared to the ones u mention 
above.

JJ/Sweden



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Message: 2         
   Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 19:10:46 -0000
   From: Jeffery Kennedy 
Subject: Re: The Paris Sisters

Margaret G. Still wrote:
> Where can I find some details on the seamier side of the Paris
> Sisters?
 
Clark Besch:
> Not sure if you'll find more "seamier" info, but the new Eric 
> Records Cd, "Paris Sisters Sing Everything Under the Sun" Cd 
> has a 16 page booklet and true stereo music on the disc...

Mick Patrick: 
> It's hard to fault this CD. Soundwise, it's superior in every 
> way to the original LP, itself something of a Girl Group Holy 
> Grail. The story of the Paris Sisters is told by Greg Adams in 
> quite some detail in the booklet, via exclusive interviews with 
> all three sisters, including the recently departed Priscilla. 

Seamy side: I picked up the Eric Paris Sisters CD this weekend, and 
reading between the lines of the quotes in the booklet, there seems 
to have been a bit of sibling rivalry among the Paris Sisters, 
particularly between Sherrell and Priscilla. When it comes to 
Priscilla, Sherrell tends to speak with a forked tongue ("She was the 
fragile one," etc., etc.).

I share Mick Patrick's enthusiasm for this CD. I really like this 
album, and "I'm Me" is one of my all-time favorites. The booklet is 
full of great, rare photos (several in color), and the sound quality 
is as good as it can be considering the original LP stereo mix was a 
bit screwy.

Jeffery



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Message: 3         
   Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 15:25:11 -0400
   From: Justin McDevitt  
Subject: The 4-Evers

Hello Spectropop listmates,

While on vacation this last week, I tuned into a radio show on Wcib-FM
Falmouth Massachusetts called Class Reunion. Broadcast from 8:00 to 
12:00 on Saturday and Sunday evenings, with Ron Dwyer spinning the 
records, the program features fairly standard pop/rock oldies from the 
50s, 60s and early 70s, though Ron Dwyer will sneak a few rarities into 
the mix to keep the playlist interesting. For example, on the Sunday 
July 11 show, among other things, I heard Noel Harrison's version of 
Suzanne as well as a great Four Seasons sound-alike 1965 track by a 
group called the 4-Evers. 

I would appreciate any background information on this group who, 
according to Ron have a 33-track Cd comp of their music released on 
Magic Carpet records. An initial search on Amazon did not net any 
results, though I will keep on looking. 

Contact me off-list or post to the group.

Justin McDevitt  
(playing urban explorer as I get to know the new neighborhood here in 
Saint Paul, accompanied by guide dog Gemini and my two redheaded 
daughters). 



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Message: 4         
   Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 13:20:21 -0700
   From: Scott Swanson 
Subject: Re: John Carter - Producer & Songwriter

Margaret, Be Still writes:
> Who else covered this song, and who did the sweet version I remember?

I know of versions of "That's What I Want" by The Tony Jackson Group 
(1965), The Gremlins (1966), and Candlelight (1968?).

Hope this helps,

Scott



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Message: 5         
   Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 15:29:43 -0700
   From: Bryan 
Subject: Re: Larry Bright & Mojo Workouts

Gary wrote:
> I've also heard that Larry is no longer with us, but I haven't 
> been able to confirm that. I last spoke with him a coulple yrs ago.

The folks at Del-Fi would know. Last I heard, Larry was living
in Carson City, Nevada.

Bryan



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Message: 6         
   Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 16:46:00 EDT
   From: Al Kooper 
Subject: Re: Pitney & Sedaka

Previously, on the subject of Gene Pitney's "It Hurts To Be In Love":
> Where's that underdub? Synchronized to the finished product it would
> create a stereo version (a la "School Is Out"). If the synch pulls off
> well enough, the underdub could be replaced with Gene's version minus
> the underdub which would put Gene in the center. Also Gene's voice is
> multitracked here which suggests there's liable to be a three or four
> track tape somewhere. If they just put on one Gene, then that other
> voice is Neil's which confirms the original post.

You're assuming the original mono tapes could be located. Don't sit on 
a hot stove waiting.

Al "pessimist" Kooper



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Message: 7         
   Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 20:50:01 -0000
   From: Rob 
Subject: Re: Everly Brothers - The Ferris Wheel / Lord of the Manor..

JJ wrote:
> Just got the ´93 Double Set on Warner Archives; WALK RIGHT BACK - 
> The Everly Brothers on Warner Bros. 1960-1969...

Mikey:
> Speaking of that 2 Cd set, I believe they used the wrong version of 
> "Donna Donna". Great song too, but the other version is better!!!

There's no DONNA DONNA on this 2CD set.

Rob



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Message: 8         
   Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 20:47:30 +0100
   From: J. Stewart 
Subject: Joe Meek

May be of interest to UK readers:
The episode of the 60s-set drama "The Long Firm" shown last week on 
BBC4 and repeated this Wednesday at 9pm on BBC2 includes a portrayal 
of Joe Meek as a minor character. Incidentally, this programme isn't 
for the particularly squeamish.
JS




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Message: 9         
   Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 00:10:47 +0200
   From: Frank 
Subject: Re: now playing: Wood

Phil X Milstein wrote:
> Now playing in musica is a track by a famous actress whose talents
> as a vocalist remain (to my knowledge) otherwise unheard:
> Natalie Wood: The Sun Is Gray

Though Natalie Wood was notoriously dubbed in West Side Story (by Marni
Nixon) she did sing some of her songs in Gypsy. However I am extremely 
dubious about this record. It does not sound at all her like her. Are 
you positive?

Frank






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Message: 10        
   Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 22:26:05 +0100
   From: Dave Heasman 
Subject: Re: Summertime, Summertime

'Summertime' Austin Roberts:
> Do any of you Spectro folks know anything about the Jamies of
> It's Summertime fame? Loved that record.

There's this lovely bit where they all catch a breath for half a beat, 
and come in just after the piano. Magic record. If you're in the right 
mood it's divine. If grouchy it can sound amateurish.



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Message: 11        
   Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 08:04:30 +0900
   From: Mutsushi Tsuji 
Subject: Re: Kyu Sakamoto

Margaret B. Still:
> Dr Mark, Can you or anyone here i.d. what Kyu Sakamoto's "Sukiyaki" 
> came from? His LP credits the song to "R. Ei - H. Nakamura".

Joe Nelson:
> Thems be the authors. Funny thing is, although a completely new English 
> lyric was written for anyone wishing to sing the song in that language, 
> the title remains mistitled (i.e. nothing to do with sukiyaki) and the 
> new lyricist isn't credited. I've heard that new lyric described as a 
> translation, but I've read a translation of the original Japanese and 
> there's no simularity whatsoever.

Hello from Japan,

I tried translating directly from original the Japanese lyrics. Please 
see below... thanks, translated by: Mutsushi Tsuji

SUKIYAKI (UE WO MUITE ARUKOU) = (I shall walk keeping my chin up)

I shall walk keeping my chin up
For I don't wanna shed tears
I remember the day of spring
Spending the lonely lonely night

I shall walk keeping my chin up
While counting the blurred stars
I remember the day of summer
Spending the lonely lonely night

Happiness is above the clouds
Happiness is above the sky

I shall walk keeping my chin up
For I don't wanna shed tears
I'm walking with the tears
Spending the lonely lonely night

(Whistling)
I remember the day of autumn
Spending the lonely lonely night

Sadness is behind the stars
Sadness is behind the moon

I shall walk keeping my chin up
For I don't wanna shed tears
I'm walking with the tears
Spending the lonely lonely night




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Message: 12        
   Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 00:12:05 -0000
   From: Alan V. Karr 
Subject: Joe Meek / Kenny Hollywood / Geoff Goddard / Marc Bolan

I thought you might like to know:

1) Although Meek did christen the late Geoff Goddard "Anton Hollywood"
Goddard released a number of eponymous singles under his own name for 
EMI's HMV label. These were mostly Holly clones such as "Girl Bride", 
"Saturday Dance" and the over-the-top disc debut of Ritchie Blackmore, 
"Try Once More" (of, which ironically  TELSTAR was "composed" over the 
backing track, with the wordless vocalizing belonging to Goddard. 
Apparently Goddard could not play piano without sort of groaning along) 
Lets not forget to mention the fabulous SKY MEN....

2) As Goddard's country accent was so strong, you could never confuse 
it with the wavering vocals of Kenny Hollywood (though I do think the 
B side Wonderful Story of Love could have been the plug side)

3) Marc Feld/Bolan was not Kenny Hollywood; his disc debut, "The 
Wizard" eventually came in 1965, also on Decca. He was a boyhood pal 
of Helen Shapiro though, and aspired to fame (as is well documented) 
as an early London mod "face" fashion plate.

Regards,

Alan V. Karr




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Message: 13        
   Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 08:31:44 +0100
   From: Mick Patrick 
Subject: The Diplomats

Julio:
> ... Ace Records' new Diplomats compilation. It includes all my 
> preferred songs, and the sound is fantastic. The collection 
> contains tunes recorded for Arock (my favorites), Wand and 
> Dynamo, six of them previously unreleased ... My favorite 
> Diplomats songs are "He's Got You Now" and "Can't Get You Off 
> My Mind" ... I also like the previously unreleased "Forever", 
> in which the singer's voice reminds me a lot of Van McCoy. Ady 
> Croasdell's notes are as exhaustive and interesting as you can 
> expect from Ace, and the booklet includes a Diplomats discography 
> by Peter Gibbon.

Pah!! I'm still waiting for mine to arrive, although I did hear an 
advance copy in Peter's car the other week, en route to see the 
group perform live. Apologies to all who might live there, but 
Cleethorpes isn't exactly the sort of place I'd visit in a hurry 
without very good reason. However, it was a treat to arrive in 
chauffeur-driven luxury. I might tell you more about the show 
another time, and I might not. In the meantime, for those who are 
interested, find a complete tracklist and a nice article about the 
CD here: http://www.acerecords.co.uk/gotrt/jun04/cdkend232.html

Hey la,

Diplomatic Mick Patrick



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Message: 14        
   Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 21:45:58 -0400
   From: James Botticelli 
Subject: Re: Krystal Generation

Louis Wendruck wrote:
> Does anyone have any photos of the group "Krystal Generation" or
> any of their singles?

I got "Wanted Dead Or Alive" on Mr Chand (Clean Gene Chandler, the 
woman handler's label).




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Message: 15        
   Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 21:38:29 EDT
   From: Mike McKay 
Subject: UnaKustomed as I am

Phil M:
> Now playing at Photos, a full-page ad, from the close-of-the-Sixties
> (i.e., 12-69)...jointly promoting both Kustom amps (of Chanute, Kansas)
> and the group Mercy, of "Love Can Make You Happy" fame. As grotesque
> a period piece as I've ever seen.

Country Paul:
> Seconded. And Kustom was not exactly known as top-end material in the
> musical circles I hing with!

Hey, watch it! I still use my Kustom cabinet with two 12's on wheels as 
an external speaker with my 1968 tube Vibrolux!

I've got to tell this story. In my high school freshman days, a bunch of 
us used to go to a Catholic church's Sunday night youth night. For the 
price of listening to the firebrand sawed-off priest swear at the kids in 
the Youth Group (and he really did, too), the rest of us non-Catholics 
got to stick around for a dance with a live band.

On one particular night, we were in awe to see that the band of the night, 
whose equipment was already set up and ready to go, was completely 
outfitted, from top to bottom, with intimidating-looking Kustom amps. Yep, 
two guitars and bass, all with the matching puffy black Naugahyde-covered 
ones you remember -- and they weren't the puny models, either. They even 
had -- and this is the only time I've ever seen such a thing -- a Kustom 
electric piano with an amp and a huge speaker built in.

So the sermon is over, and amidst much anticipation, the band gets up to 
play -- and they suck out loud! I mean they're not just bad -- they're 
REALLY, REALLY bad!

Obviously a case of Daddy having some bucks and staking his son and his 
buddies to the Full Monty. I can guarantee they didn't earn all that gear 
by playing a series of successful gigs!

Mike



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Message: 16        
   Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 18:58:12 -0700 (PDT)
   From: Artie Wayne 
Subject: Re: which Artie?

I wrote:
> No......it's not me. That was an old band singer with the same name,
> who passed away about 30 years ago.

Vague Phil M:
> Which of you two Artie Waynes did the album that had a photo of ... 
> of, who was it? Kim Novak? Jayne Mansfield? ... on the cover?

.....Unfortunately it wasn't me.

regards, Artie Wayne





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Message: 17        
   Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 04:59:07 -0000
   From: Shawn 
Subject: Frankie Sardo

Hello Artie Wayne,

Are you the Artie Wayne that wrote "She Taught Me How To Cry" with 
Frankie Sardo? If it is, I'd sure like to hear what Art has to say 
about working with him, and the visitors to one of my sites: 
http://www.BuddyHollyOnline.com would sure like to hear what Frankie 
has to say about that Winter Dance Party '59 if you know where he is 
these days.

Shawn



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Message: 18        
   Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 23:23:16 EDT
   From: Bgas 
Subject: Re: Kyu Sakamoto

Margaret Sill wrote:
> Dr Mark, Can you or anyone here i.d. what Kyu  Sakamoto's "Sukiyaki" 
> came from? His LP credits the song to "R. Ei - H.  Nakamura".

Then Joe Nelson wrote:
> Thems be the authors. Funny thing is, although a completely new  
> English lyric was written for anyone wishing to sing the song in that
> language, the title remains mistitled (i.e. nothing to do with 
> sukiyaki) and  the new lyricist isn't credited. I've heard that new 
> lyric described as a translation, but I've read a translation of the 
> original Japanese and there's no simularity whatsoever.

The US single sheet music credits the song title as "Sukiyaka (My First  
Lonely Night)" with English lyrics by Tom Leslie and Buzz Cason 
(copyright 1963, for the USA, to Beechwood Music) The English lyrics in 
the sheet are completely different from the lyrics posted on the website: 
http://www.japanorama.com/kyuchan.html

Bgas



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Message: 19        
   Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 21:32:42 -0700
   From: Gary Myers 
Subject: Re: Like Someone In Love / Bobby Vee

Bob Celli pointed me towards:
> http://www.spectropop.com/JackNitzsche/index.htm

Ah, interesting. Thanks for the directions, Bob.

> Never heard it by Bing but I did hear Sinatra's version.

Crosby had the only chart version (per Whitburn) in 1945.

gem



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Message: 20        
   Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 21:30:04 -0700
   From: Michael Coxe 
Subject: Re: upcoming fun in Gnashville

Al Kooper wrote:
> The Band / Long Players are : Bill Lloyd (guitar), Steve Allen (guitar),
> Garry Tallent (bass), Al Kooper (organ), John Deaderick (piano), Steve 
> Ebe (drums)

Is that Steve Allen from 20/20?

- michael



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Message: 21        
   Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 23:48:12 -0400
   From: jrnelsonsr@hvc.rr.com
Subject: Re: Top Rank

On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 06:11:18 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:

>You can see Freddy Cannon and all the rest of the Top Rank (UK) "canon" 
>at: http://www.btinternet.com/~davmct/singles/top_rank/top_rank01.html
>
>The lovingly compiled site referred to above is very interesting.

I'm sure it is, if you can get in. I keep getting the BTInternet home
page. Even after signing in I can't get through.

Joe Nelson




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