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There are 10 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: The New Rascals
From: Phil X Milstein
2. Re: The Neighborhood
From: Paul Richards
3. Re: Anne Murray's early albums
From: Austin Roberts
4. Re: The Candymen / A.R.S.
From: Austin Roberts
5. Re: Northern Soul
From: James Botticelli
6. Re: need song ID from French Scopitone
From: Tom K
7. Re: Northern Soul & Beach Music
From: Phil X Milstein
8. The Who Sell Out
From: Bob Rashkow
9. George Williams of the Tymes, R.I.P.
From: Gary Myers
10. Re: Ellie Greenwich/Tony Pass and Robert John to Musica
From: Clark Besch
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2004 17:03:45 +0000
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Re: The New Rascals
Kurt Benbenek wrote:
> I saw and heard The New Rascals when they played Costa Mesa,
> Ca's 'Fashion Center' two weeks ago.
> Felix Caveliere and his band were excellent. All of the Rascals
> hits (and many, many covers) were done superbly and with much
> enthusiasm.
So this lineup includes Felix, Dino and Gene? Someone had previously
mentioned only the latter two. With no disrespect intended, given the
circumstances (especially if they've got 3/4ths their original lineup)
wouldn't the adjective from their prior name update better to "Old"
than to the one they're going with?
--Phil M.
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2004 18:49:30 EDT
From: Paul Richards
Subject: Re: The Neighborhood
If I remember correctly the B-side to the Neighbourhood's Big Yellow
Taxi was a disappointing cover of The Free Design's 'You Could be
Born Again'. Not an easy task to set oneself though. Good on them for
trying.
Paul
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2004 21:25:33 EDT
From: Austin Roberts
Subject: Re: Anne Murray's early albums
Just as a side note; I've had a couple of Anne Murray cuts over the
years, and was fortunate to be invited to a concert she gave in
Nashville just for the writers on all of her cuts. I've gotta say,
she is one of the most genuinely nice folk (no s) I've ever met in
this business; funny to talk to, etc. And what a great talent. She
and Karen Carpenter are my favorite female MOR singers of all time.
Austin R.
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2004 21:31:13 EDT
From: Austin Roberts
Subject: Re: The Candymen / A.R.S.
Me:
> Thanks Al. Also, I heard that you played on Sweet Home Alabam,
> is this true?
Al Kooper:
> I played acoustic guitar, produced it, and right after Van Zant
> sings "Well I heard Mr. Young sing about her....." you can
> subliminally hear with headphones on, me imitating Neil Young
> singing Southern Man.... (only for people with BIG EARS)
Al,
I'll listen!
Austin R.
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2004 18:27:31 -0400
From: James Botticelli
Subject: Re: Northern Soul
M. G. Still wrote:
> But - what is considered Northern Soul doesn't seem to include Muscle
> Shoals or Stax or Malaco or deep soul, or most Southern U.S. soul.
> Correct me if I'm wrong....
No, it's the sweeter and more uptempo stuff. Hey, there's even a Salsoul
Records compilation from the UK (of U.S. records of course, what else?~)
called "Where Northern Soul Meets Disco" (highly recommended at this
address). It has indeed become all encompassing.
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2004 20:55:50 -0000
From: Tom K
Subject: Re: need song ID from French Scopitone
D.C.:
> Yes, this was a real Scopitone, and the guy was actually
> singing "Allez, Zizi." I don't recall a horse-drawn carriage,
> but I do recall seeing some chick twisting furiously in it.
> The song is called "Zizi la Twisteuse." Depending on which
> website you believe, the performer is either Jack Glenn or
> Glenn Jack et Les Glenners, and the clip dates from 1963.
It's definitely Glenn Jack et Les Glenners, i've seen the record,
ye-ye singers really had names like that :-)
While we're on the topic, does anyone know what the scopitone in
the Name That Scopitone section of http://scopitones.com is? I'm
sure I kind of know the song, but I don't recognise the artist...
"Laisse-moi, quitte-moi..." Hmmmmmmm.
Tom K
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2004 15:47:13 +0000
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Re: Northern Soul & Beach Music
Sebastian Fonzeus wrote:
> The "northern" part refers to the kind of soul that was popular
> in the clubs up in northern England during the late 60s and
> throughout the 70s. Stomping, uptempo stuff. Indeed much of this
> stuff came from places like New York, Detroit, Chicago etc. But
> there is a lot of records termed as "northern soul" that were
> recorded in the southern states. So the term has got nothing to
> do with where it was recorded, but where it was danced to. As the
> northern scene has been going for 35 years or so, it is quite a
> complex thing to explain exactly what "northern soul" is.
The dynamic of the Northern Soul scene is very, very similar to that
of the so-called Beach Music scene of the southern North Carolina
shoreline*. Adding to the confusion, Beach Music is unrelated to
Surf Music.
--Phil M.
*My geography could be slightly off. I know it was in 1988, when I
spent a week along the northern South Caroline shore in hope of
locating the Beach Music scene, only to find out (the hard way) that
few people there had ever heard of it. Beach Music, it turned out,
is a highly insular scene, and never spread its geographical wings
the way Northern Soul, to some extent, has. Other than that, though,
the two have played out in very similar ways.
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2004 19:22:04 EDT
From: Bob Rashkow
Subject: The Who Sell Out
Al Kooper:
> I played on Rael from The Who Sell Out......
Al, that is such a great tune. In fact the entire album is one of my
favorite late 6Ts LPs ever. Does anybody EVER spin Rael anymore (or,
for that matter, Relax, I Can't Reach You, Tattoo, Our Love Was/Is,
Sunrise, Mary Anne with the Shaky Hands etc.??) If I'm really lucky I
can get the big hit, "I Can See For Miles" (also, of course, superb!)
by listening to Oldies 104.3 or a couple of the more indie FM stations
in Chicago. I own the album, too, so unless I actually PLAY IT it's
hard to believe anyone under the age of, say, 50 is familiar with any
of the other stuff!
Bobster
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2004 21:53:44 -0700
From: Gary Myers
Subject: George Williams of the Tymes, R.I.P.
Sad to see the news that George Williams, lead singer for the Tymes,
has passed away. Besides their great early hits, I especially like
their version of "People".
gem
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2004 06:03:11 -0000
From: Clark Besch
Subject: Re: Ellie Greenwich/Tony Pass and Robert John to Musica
Martin Roberts wrote:
> There's been lots to impress on Spectropop recently but, while
> I'm in a flurry of writing, I must give a big thank you for the
> Ellie Greenwich re-print:
> http://www.spectropop.com/EllieGreenwich/index.htm
While we're trying to make all these great artists' fans happy at
Radio Musica, how bout the Ellie Greenwich and Jeff Barry tune from
1966, Tony Pass' hit (?) "Spring Fever"? This one found chart action
in various parts of the country. If memory serves, I think I taped
this song off KTKT in Tucson back then. Tony Pass had been lead
singer of the Fascinators and had recorded solo under a couple other
names, but this one had a good bounce to it, yet failed to make it
nationally. As I look back now, I hear the sound heard in
Barry/Greenwich/Diamond's hit production, "Cherry, Cherry" at that
time also. Anyone remember "Spring Fever" on the radio then? "Well,
alright!" I actually like the "B" side, "True, True Love" better, I
think.
Also, since we've been having various Al Kooper posts to Musica, I'll
post the song I spoke of a couple months back. It is Robert John's
song, "Children". It was the "B" side of his Nilsson cover, "don't
Leave Me" which reached #108 in October, 1968. As "Children" was
the "B" side, it was a John/Gately written tune which would get them
half the royalties on the song that way. Al produced this side only
and it would have come while he was with BS&T, as "I Can't Quit Her"
had recently been released as a 45 also. It's not John's best, but
it's not bad either. Al could not remember the tune when I first
mentioned it. Any recollections working with John on this now? As I
mentioned at the time, I like the phasing of the ending and would
guess Al might have been in the background singers? Sorry bout all
the scratches.
.....Clark
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