________________________________________________________________________ SPECTROPOP - Spectacular! Retro! Pop! ________________________________________________________________________ There are 25 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Bergen White -- For Women Only From: Cleber 2. RIP: Tony Mottola From: Don H. 3. Ravin' Image to Musica From: Clark Besch 4. Arrogance with Don Dixon From: Matthew 5. Re: "San Francisco" in Bel Air? From: Austin Roberts 6. Flying Machine - Marie Take A Chance lyric From: Mutsushi Tsuji 7. Re: Dionn label From: James Botticelli 8. Re: Ron Dante's birthday From: Laura Pinto 9. Re: RIP: Tony Mottola From: Frank Jastfelder 10. The Sandpipers From: S'pop Projects 11. Re: Arrogance with Don Dixon From: Davie Gordon 12. Re: Robert John search From: Fred Clemens 13. Re: Arrogance with Don Dixon From: Nick Archer 14. Re: "San Francisco" in Bel Air? From: Austin Roberts 15. Re: Holmby Hills and the birth of the Rat Pack From: Phil X Milstein 16. Re: Soulful Northern Beach Music From: Austin Roberts 17. Re: Bergen White -- For Women Only From: Austin Roberts 18. "Just That Kind Of Guy" in musica From: David A. Young 19. Re: Bergen White -- For Women Only From: Brent Cash 20. research inquiry From: Phil X Milstein 21. Re: Hickory label From: Danny D 22. not the Four Just Men! From: Frank Young 23. Elmer Bernstein, Film Composer, Dies at 82 From: Phil X Milstein 24. Tom Dowd And The Language Of Music From: Phil X Milstein 25. Re: Goldmine From: Scott Charbonneau ________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 11:57:35 -0000 From: Cleber Subject: Bergen White -- For Women Only I bought the CD "For Women Only -- Bergen White" in July. I saw in Rev-ola home page a different track listing that includes four tracks ("Have You Taken A Good Look Lately", "Devil Knows How My Mind Works", "Springfield" , "Spread The Word") that don't appear in the CD that I bought. Meanwhile, the CD includes three tracks that don't appear in Rev-ola home page ("If It's Not Asking Too Much", "Don't Keep Me Waiting", "What Would You Do In My Place"). Are there two versions? or just a mistake from Rev-ola ? I don't know if somebody has this very good CD, but in my copy the sound of some tracks (especially "Hurt So Bad") are not good. The sound has ups and downs of volume. Somebody notice that? Thanks Cleber -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 16:30:52 -0000 From: Don H. Subject: RIP: Tony Mottola I noticed the other day in my local newspaper that Tony Mottola passed away on August 9. I was surprised that he lived in the next town over. Tony played with Enoch Light, and Doc Severinsen on the Tonight Show. He also had several solo albums. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 16:28:15 -0000 From: Clark Besch Subject: Ravin' Image to Musica Hi, just posted to Musica, a nice springtime 1969 song by the Ravin' Image called "Echoes". This release on Capitol's new (at the time) target label seems to have gone unnoticed for a big label release. It is another of my Kansas hits, having hit KEYN-FM in Wichita at release time. Keyn was really pushing stereo broadcasting at that time as an advantage over AM Wichita stations and "Echoes" had a nice echoey effect that leant itself well to stereo. Some really nice harmonizing from these guys making me wish they'd done an Lp or even a followup 45. I assume two members of the group are "Esposito/Tourso" as they wrote, arranged and produced the record under the supervision of Artie Kornfeld. Not much else can I tell you about the record except that I really love it. Can anyone out there tell me more? Thanks, Clark -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 12:53:38 EDT From: Matthew Subject: Arrogance with Don Dixon I know it is a little off topic but can anybody tell me about a group called Arrogance that featured Don Dixon? I recently picked up sealed copies of their first two albums "Give Us A Break" (Sugarbush Records SBS103, 1974) and "Prolepsis" (Sugarbush Records SBS112, 1975). The records are still sealed and I'm not really sure what it sounds like or what they are worth, can anybody offer direction on these topics? I know that I could just open them up and listen to the albums but it would really piss me off if they sucked and I took an album that was worth $100 sealed and made it one fell swoop a $20.00 mint used record. Matthew -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 23:28:06 EDT From: Austin Roberts Subject: Re: "San Francisco" in Bel Air? Dennis Diken writes: > I'm not 100% sure but it's always been my understanding that "San > Francisco" was cut at John Phillips' home studio (in Bel Air?). I > believe the "Papas & Mamas" (with the interchangable face cover) LP > was also recorded there. The house and presumably the studio therein > were later sold to Sly Stone. Could well be Dennis. Does anyone know for sure. That was a beautiful effect or effects on Scott's voice. Best, AR -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 16:50:00 +0900 From: Mutsushi Tsuji Subject: Flying Machine - Marie Take A Chance lyric Hello everyone, Please let me know the lyric of Flying Machine - Marie Take A Chance. It's hard to transcribe from the music for me. Somebody, Help!! Off list replies only please. Marie Take A Chance Marie take a chance Think of your heart, girl After this dance ?? While it could start,girl If you make up your mind ?? Lead your fields behind Marie take a chance Don't be afraid, girl After this dance We got it made, girl Can't you see you and me We're just meant to be I saw your face across A crowded room and then I saw nobody else but you ???????????? ?? I never worry again I walked up to you As you stood there so alone And then we danced on whole night long How could you be so wrong I wanna take you home *Repeat Just try to understand The way I feel tonight Cause I have choosed my whole life through To find a girl like you And now I'm holding tight So as the music ends And we are left alone I gotta try to make you see The way it ought to be And take you home -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 13:34:50 -0400 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: Dionn label David L Gordon wrote: > Dionn was owned, I believe, by Gilda Woods, wife of Georgie Woods Georgie Woods, the guy with the goods!!!! > There are a few other artists on Dionn but they're pretty obscure, > northern soul fave Moses Smith and Bill Lucas. Anyone heard The Ordells' "Sippin' A Cup Of Coffee" on Dionn? A German friend once proclaimed that song possessed the ability to put him on "the existential edge". I was never quite sure what he meant, but he sure liked the song. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 15:58:01 -0000 From: Laura Pinto Subject: Re: Ron Dante's birthday I wrote: > Spectropop fave Ron Dante will be turning 39 years young (again) > this coming Sunday, August 22. Anyone who would like to post a > birthday greeting for him can do so by visiting this link: Joe Nelson responded: > 39? I guess that explains the youthful sound behind "Sugar Sugar", > which came out when my now-40-year-old self was somewhere between > kindergarten and first grade :-) Hmmmm ... I guess we couldn't get away with that one. That's the trouble with having had a gigantic hit record in 1969 - nobody will believe you were born in 1965! Laura :) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 20:36:16 +0200 From: Frank Jastfelder Subject: Re: RIP: Tony Mottola Previously: > I noticed the other day in my local newspaper that Tony Mottola > passed away on August 9. I was surprised that he lived in the next > town over. Tony played with Enoch Light, and Doc Severinsen on the > Tonight Show. He also had several solo albums. Now that´s very sad. I really like his guitar playing and have several (what an understatement in his case) of his records he did for Project 3. Tony was always down with the "Now Sound" in the late 60s. Frank J. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 19:38:35 +0100 From: S'pop Projects Subject: The Sandpipers New at S'pop All Over But The Crying: The Sandpipers Story by Jeff Lemlich They were just kids, living out a dream. Three girls, not yet in high school -- one moment, singing a cappella; the next, being backed by a group of future rock music legends. One moment, singing at a fashion show; the next, recording for a soul label in the northeast. Mr. DJ, give a spin to that not- so-moldy oldie by the Sandpipers, 'All Over But The Crying'. Listen to those sultry harmonies, and try to picture that these girls were not yet fifteen years old, singing about grown-up heartaches and heartbreaks. No, not just singing about the hard lessons of life, but bringing it home with soul to spare. Nailing it! "Your kisses don't stay on my lips anymore. I said it's almost over." There just has to be more to this story, right? Well, fortunately there is. You've heard some of their recordings in musica. Now's your chance to read their story: http://www.spectropop.com/Sandpipers/index.htm Enjoy, The S'pop Team -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 19:39:54 -0000 From: Davie Gordon Subject: Re: Arrogance with Don Dixon Matthew wrote: > I know it is a little off topic but can anybody tell me about a > group called Arrogance that featured Don Dixon? I recently > picked up sealed copies of their first two albums "Give Us A > Break" (Sugarbush Records SBS103, 1974) and "Prolepsis" (Sugarbush > Records SBS112, 1975). I might be wrong about this but years ago I had an album by a band called Arrogance (on Vanguard) - it's from around 73-74. I'm not sure if it's the same group but I vaguely remember it as being sorta country-rockish - like innumerable bands from that period. I may be doing it an injustice but it was one of those "play once, file away" albums that I never missed when it "got lost" in a move. Davie -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 20:00:10 -0000 From: Fred Clemens Subject: Re: Robert John search Country Paul wrote: > Just heard from Marc Scott (of The Front Porch), re: Bobby Pedrick, > Jr., aka Robert John: > "As for the group backing Bobby Pedrick Jr; I haven't a clue. Never > even thought about it. I thought they were just session guys. After > he did Bandstand, he was the king of PS [Public School] 156 and then > Arthur S. Somers JHS [Junior High School] 252. Sorry I couldn't be > of more help. I prefered 'Stranded' too! If memory serves me well, > one of the sides was written by Doc Pomus and Mort Shuman." Thanks for looking into the Bobby Pedrick tune for me, Paul. Much appreciated. BTW, the Pomus-Schuman side was "White Bucks...". "Stranded" was by Barry Mann and Sid Jacobson. Another classic duo! Fred Clemens -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 15:55:24 -0500 From: Nick Archer Subject: Re: Arrogance with Don Dixon Previously: > ... can anybody tell me about a group called Arrogance that featured > Don Dixon? If this is the group I think it is they appeared every other week in Winston-Salem, North Carolina from 1975-1977. One of my old friends still starts off every phone call with "This week--Arrogance at Rittenhouse Square!". At one time they had a listing on Fuzz, Acid & Flowers. The music was pretty straight ahead rock if I remember. Nick Archer Nashville, TN Check out Nashville's classic pop and soft rock radio station SM95, now online at http://www.live365.com/stations/nikarcher -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 17:03:39 EDT From: Austin Roberts Subject: Re: "San Francisco" in Bel Air? Previously: > The tune was cut as a Mamas and Papas tune. John wiped the vocal track > and put on Scott's and he had the hit. Always loved the B-side, "What's > The Difference", which I recall being done as two B-sides, parts 1 and 2. Also, Like An Old Time Movie! AR -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 13:28:43 +0000 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Re: Holmby Hills and the birth of the Rat Pack Bryan wrote: > Holmby Hills, which is part of Bel Air, I think. Coincidentally enough, > Phillips leased (?) or sold his home to Sly Stone, who moved a bunch > of his buddies into the place ... including a recent topic of interest > on this list, Jim Ford. Holmby Hills, by the way, was the home of the original Rat Pack. Begun (in the mid or late '50s, if I'm not mistaken) as the "Holmby Hills Rat Pack," with Humphrey Bogart its prime instigator, the informal club originally included wives. Charter membership included Bogart and Lauren Bacall, Tony Curtis and Janet Leigh, and Frank Sinatra, who was very close to Bogart and even closer to Bacall. After Bogart's death the club began morphing into its more familiar form. I've always believed that had Dean Martin not been a member, Jerry Lewis would've been; due to their ongoing feud, however, the two obviously could not have both been members. I also contend that Joey Bishop was never actually a "made" member, but rather only one of a number of floating fifth members. --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 17:06:18 EDT From: Austin Roberts Subject: Re: Soulful Northern Beach Music Mark writes: > You mentioned that many Northern soul records fit in nicely on the > beach scene. I just wanted to let you know that the reverse is also > true! The guys over in the UK have played a number of Embers tunes > ("First Time" is a very sought-after record there), as well as songs > by Frankie & the Damons, the Tams, Cannonball and Harry Deal and the > Galaxies, to name a few beach acts that have gotten Northern club > play. That's one of the reasons I love both Northern soul and beach > music: the diversity of the stuff played (same with the Belgian > popcorn scene as well). Thanks Mark, That's good to hear. Even with several changes in their lineup, the Embers are still kickin' ass! Best, Austin R. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 17:13:39 EDT From: Austin Roberts Subject: Re: Bergen White -- For Women Only Previously: > I bought the CD "For Women Only -- Bergen White" in July. I saw in > Rev-ola home page a different track listing that includes four tracks > ("Have You Taken A Good Look Lately", "Devil Knows How My Mind > Works", "Springfield" , "Spread The Word") that don't appear in the > CD that I bought. Meanwhile, the CD includes three tracks that don't > appear in Rev-ola home page ("If It's Not Asking Too Much", "Don't > Keep Me Waiting", "What Would You Do In My Place"). Are there two > versions? or just a mistake Just as an aside; Bergen and Buzz Cason sang Bgds. with me on my Rocky album and we called ourselves the Eterniteens (but not on the album). Bergen is one of the best arrangers I've ever known. He had a version of Come Go With Me (Del-Vikings) on Private Stock that was strong. Austin Roberts -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 21:06:20 -0000 From: David A. Young Subject: "Just That Kind Of Guy" in musica I'd like to join Julio in expressing my appreciation to Clark for sharing the P.F. Sloan gem currently in rotation in the listening lounge. Others in this group have referred to such same-sex demos as "gender confused," but to many of us here, they offer a chance to experience songs in a gender-appropriate way we've longed to hear all our lives. Much more importantly, though, it's a honey of a song, sophisticated and complex, full of surprising turns that deliciously contrast the naive sentiments, yet so hook-filled that it's impossible to get out of my head. Phil's uncharacteristically resigned delivery is a treat as well. Fellow members, if you haven't checked this one out yet, believe me, you don't want to miss it. Thanks, Clark! David A. Young -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 22:02:32 -0000 From: Brent Cash Subject: Re: Bergen White -- For Women Only Cleber wrote: > I bought the CD "For Women Only -- Bergen White" in July. I saw in > Rev-ola home page a different track listing that includes four tracks > ("Have You Taken A Good Look Lately", "Devil Knows How My Mind Works", > "Springfield" , "Spread The Word") that don't appear in the CD that I > bought. Meanwhile, the CD includes three tracks that don't appear in > Rev-ola home page ("If It's Not Asking Too Much", "Don't Keep Me > Waiting", "What Would You Do In My Place"). Are there two versions? or > just a mistake from Rev-ola? I don't know if somebody has this very > good CD, but in my copy the sound of some tracks (especially "Hurt So > Bad") are not good. The sound has ups and downs of volume. Somebody > notice that? I also noticed the sound problems. I tried emailing Rev Ola to see if they'd gotten any similar inquiries and didn't get a response. It occurs on the last half of "Lisa Was" (beginning around 1:30 approx. on the channel that starts with the marimbas) and throughout the next track, "Hurt So Bad". It's similar to dropouts in the high frequencies, but the sound doesn't stop, just vacillates between clear and muddy. This album is so awesome, I was going to buy another one to see if I'd just gotten part of a bad batch, but it really sounds like problems from the tape source and maybe beyond repair. Now, should I dock Wayne Moss $75.00 pay for not having used Ampex 456 tape? Just kidding... Kudos to Joe Foster & Steve Stanley for those bonus tracks! Best to all, Brent Cash -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 17:38:34 +0000 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: research inquiry My research is coming up short in a few areas, and so I bring the following questions to the Spectrotable: * What is the identity of Gene Toone, who (with "The Blazers") recorded "You're My Baby" / "Jose" for Phil Spector's brief-lived Annette label in 1964, and a pair of 45s for Wand, three sides of which bore variations of the title "Baby Boy," over 10 years later? * Are there any known releases for the song "He Hit Me Where It Hurts," co-written by Philips-Reed-Sims-Vance (who usually toiled for the Pickwick/Design family of budget labels)? * Is the 1968 Mercury record "Collector" (a Sonny Curtis tune) / "Misery," by the All Night Workers, extant in any capacity? Is this the same group as the Syracuse-based combo (feat. Mike Esposito and Felix Cavaliere) of that name? * Has there ever been a "Union" label? (Americans of a certain age might get what I'm driving at with this question.) * Anyone know anything of a group called The Hobbits? They seem to have had a pair of 45s ("Daffodil Days" / "Sunny Girl" and "Pretty Young Thing" / "Strawberry Children") for Decca c.1967 or '68, but that is all I've been able to turn up on them. Have these records been comped at all? * Can anyone add any credits for a '60s songwriter named Fangette Enzel (aka Fangette Willett) beyond the following?: Dark Shadows And Empty Hallways - Tammy St. John (Congress, 1965) Dark Shadows And Empty Hallways - Diane & Annita (?) Dark Shadows And Empty Hallways - Chad Mitchell Trio (Mercury, 1966) A Man Needs A Woman - Billy Eckstine (Motown, 1966) It's An Uphill Climb To The Bottom - Walter Jackson (Okeh, 1966; has this been comped?) Dark Shadows And Empty Hallways - Rosie Lopez (Pulsar, 1969; same song?) Forget You Ever Met Me Baby - Barbara McNair (Motown LP "The Real Barbara McNair," 1969) Other titles from her entry in the BMI database: Baby / Down Silent Streets / Forget You Ever Met Me Baby / Foundation Of Love / If We Don't Play Games / In The Hands Of An Angel / On Saturday Night / Sleepin Late / Take Me Back To Before / That Empty Feelin / Waitin Waitin Down By The Station / You Got To Be An Angel / You Gotta Give Love Thanks for any help with any of these niggling questions! Dig, --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 23:15:16 +0100 (BST) From: Danny D Subject: Re: Hickory label Just a big thank you to all who contacted me on/off list and pointed me in the right direction, I appreciate your time. This was my 1st time on here, it must be THE best source of shared knowledge anywhere from what i've seen so far. Err... one more thing for now; a friend was trying to find out who were the stylists responsible for the early Motown acts wardrobe designs? Thanks again Danny D Dublin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 15:37:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Young Subject: not the Four Just Men! Don asked about a Just Four Men version of Goffin/King's "What A Sweet Thing That Was." It was actually Birmingham's Mike Sheridan and his Nightriders, featuring Roy Wood. The single, Columbia DB7302, paired the G-K classic with Charlie Gracie's "Fabulous." the JFM only issued two singles proper: "Things Will Never Be The Same"/"That's My Baby" (Parlophone R5186) "There's Not One Thing"/"Don't Come Any Closer" (Parlophone R5241) and were mistitled "the Four Just Men" on all US releases, before metamorphosing into Wimple Winch, for three viciously rare UK-only Fontana 45s. The JFM did record several unissued tracks which wound up on the equally viciously rare BGO CD... In other news, just wanted to say how much I love "He's Just That Kind Of Guy" by Sloan/Barri. Love love love their demos! Best, Frank -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 18:02:10 +0000 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Elmer Bernstein, Film Composer, Dies at 82 Elmer Bernstein, Film Composer, Dies at 82 by The Associated Press (Aug. 19, 2004) LOS ANGELES (AP)-- Elmer Bernstein, the versatile, Oscar-winning composer who scored such movie classics as "The Ten Commandments," "The Magnificent Seven," "To Kill a Mockingbird," "The Great Escape" and "True Grit," died Wednesday. He was 82. Bernstein died in his sleep at his Ojai home, said his publicist, Cathy Mouton. She said Bernstein had been in failing health for some time. Bernstein was nominated for the Academy Award 14 times, most recently in 2002 for "Far From Heaven." Oddly enough, his only win was for the 1967 film "Thoroughly Modern Millie," one of his weaker works. Among his more notable efforts were the scores for "Some Came Running," "Birdman of Alcatraz," "The Great Escape," "Hawaii," "The Great Santini," "Cast a Giant Shadow," "My Left Foot," "A River Runs Through It," "Devil in a Blue Dress" and "The Age of Innocence." He also composed several works for symphony orchestras. Considered a revolutionary by many in the business, Bernstein began film composing in 1950, a time when the field was dominated by the lush, symphonic scores of central European emigres like Erich Korngold, Miklas Rosza and Max Steiner. Although Bernstein often employed full orchestras, as they did, but he also experimented with other techniques, seeking to fit a film's music to the action occurring on the screen. For "The Man with the Golden Arm," in which Frank Sinatra played a heroin-addicted jazz musician, he discarded the studio orchestra for a jazz ensemble. He used the same technique for two other contemporary films, "The Sweet Smell of Success" and "A Walk on the Wild Side." "It's one thing to write music that reinforces a film, underscores it -- the traditional sense of stressing, underlining -- or gives it added dramatic muscle," director Martin Scorsese once said. "It's entirely another to write music that graces a film. That's what Elmer Bernstein does, and that, for me, is his greatest gift." "To Kill a Mockingbird" presented Bernstein quite a challenge in seeking to do that. For six weeks he could find no way to approach the story, which concerned racism and the Depression in a small Southern town. "Then I realized that the film was about these issues but seen through the eyes of children," he once recalled. The simple score was played by a small ensemble, at times employing single piano notes, much like a child picking out a tune." For the landmark western "The Magnificent Seven," Bernstein composed a galloping march that remained famous for years afterward in TV ads for Marlboro cigarettes. A piano prodigy who studied composing under Aaron Copland in New York, Bernstein moved to Hollywood in 1950 to work on his first movie score, for the football film "Saturday's Hero." After a few more routine assignments he made his mark with the moody music for the Joan Crawford thriller "Sudden Fear." Although both hailed from New York, he was no relation to the legendary composer Leonard Bernstein. "That's a common question," said Mouton. "They were friends and fellow New Yorkers, but they were not related in any way." -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 18:35:08 +0000 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Tom Dowd And The Language Of Music Last night I was fortunate to catch the new documentary, "Tom Dowd And The Language Of Music," on the legendary Atlantic engineer. It truly is a magical movie, with Dowd himself, a charming presence, serving as tour guide through his fascinating life. I'll admit that after a while I grew a bit weary of Dowd's constant boasting about his many accomplishments and technological breakthroughs, but, like with Muhammad Ali, James Brown or Little Richard, if you really are the greatest then you have every right to know it and say it. Apart from that piddling complaint, however, I recommend this movie unreservedly, and can't imagine a single member of this list who wouldn't groove to nearly every frame of it when and if they get the chance to see it ... or who shouldn't kick themselves in the butt if it comes to their area and they miss it. One more thing: if nothing else, I finally learned how all those Turks at Atlantic pronounce[d] their names! Dig dig dig, --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 25 Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 23:11:18 -0000 From: Scott Charbonneau Subject: Re: Goldmine I discovered Goldmine in 1984 with their 100th issue, and was amazed at the diversity and depth of what they had to offer at that time, not just in terms of the records on offer (pages and pages of those) but the writing as well. It was reading their lengthy pieces on Tim Buckley and Quicksilver Messenger Service that made me want to hear the music of both artists. Sad to say, but the magazine is pretty lame now; considerably thinner and practically no ads to speak of. What few ads there are seem to focus on newer releases; hardly any collectables on offer. Which is why I find it pretty funny when I get the occasional free issue in the hopes of getting me to subscribe again; Tim Neeley's assertion that Goldmine is still a driving force in the record collecting field is pretty hilarious if you ask me. Discoveries is a bit better in that its ads at least focus on vinyl as opposed to CDs and promotional memorabilia, and does seem a bit more in tune with what is really happening in the collecting world. Besides, John Tefteller's articles on the state of the hobby as it stands now do make for excellent, insightful reading. Scott -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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