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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Smile and Smiley Smile
From: MJ
2. Re: Brian Wilson on Larry King tonight ... for real
From: Mike McKay
3. Re: Brian Wilson as lone genius
From: Mike McKay
4. Re: New "Smile" CD
From: Susan
5. Magazines; The Truths, "Pending"; Jimmy Ford; Dan Fogelberg
From: Country Paul
6. Re: Benny "Coffee" McCain / Robert West
From: Davie Gordon
7. The University of Spectropop
From: Steve Harvey
8. Re: Benny "Coffee" McCain
From: Margaret G. Still
9. Re: A Glimpse of Smile
From: Phil X Milstein
10. Re: Valerie Simpson demo @ musica
From: Billy G. Spradlin
11. Re: A Glimpse of Smile
From: Mike McKay
12. Re: Al Kooper's Landlord
From: Tony Leong
13. "98.6" and Keith
From: C. Ponti
14. Goffin and King's Honey and Wine
From: Don H.
15. Australian versions
From: Lyn Nuttall
16. Re: Dickie Lee
From: Joe Nelson
17. Tom Dowd
From: Al Kooper
18. Re: Paul (Stefan) & the Pack
From: Bob Rashkow
19. Re: Dickie Lee, The Robbs
From: Bob Rashkow
20. Early Ashford & Simpson Songs / Smokey Joe's / Tina & the Mustangs
From: Mick Patrick
21. Re: Diamond Masters
From: Michael Ggodin
22. Re: Benny "Coffee" McCain / Robert Ward
From: John Berg
23. Re: Patty Duke to get her star
From: Karen Andrew
24. Re: Goldmine
From: Karen Andrew
25. Looking For Jaynetts
From: Billy G. Spradlin
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 16:37:32 -0400
From: MJ
Subject: Re: Smile and Smiley Smile
> ...but does anyone else find Smiley Smile an interesting listen,
> ... albeit somewhat frustrating?
Had SMILE not been announced and hyped up and then later bootleged,
everyone might have a very different opinion of this album. It is
a great album all on its own when you don't hold it up to some
vision of SMILE.
It was strange to hear Rod & The Faces do a rough run though of
"Gettin' Hungry" on the enw FACES Box from RHINO.
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 23:20:30 EDT
From: Mike McKay
Subject: Re: Brian Wilson on Larry King tonight ... for real
As Bob Lind once said, I'm "running desperately behind" and trying to
catch up.
Clark wrote:
> What was really bad was Larry. "you were a......Beach Boy? Explain
> what that is?" That's not what he said, but close. "That must have
> been a thrill to work with Paul McCartney!" That he DID say. Maybe
> it was a thrill for Paul? He seemed to have no clue as to what the
> Beach Boys were about at all. Does anyone clue him in on his guests
> he doesn't know of? "did you ever meet the Rat Pack?" No he didn't
> say this, but I thought he would. "You say you hear voices 'I'm
> Gonna Kill You'? Does this have something to do with your song 'Dead
> Man's Curve'?" Naw he didn't say this, but he almost did. Brian had
> nothing to do with it, but between Larry and Brian's wife, I am
> depressed......
I could have told you to expect this, Clark. Larry King brags about the
fact that he never prepares for interviews, and it shows. He's a Rat
Pack kind of guy at heart, and it's amazing he knows who Brian Wilson
is. I didn't see the show but have read the transcript, and it came out
just as I expected. You missed the one thing Larry DID say: "When Glen
Campbell replaced you, did they call the band 'Glen Campbell and The
Beach Boys'?" Larry obviously had no clue that at this juncture,
Campbell was virtually unknown to the public at large.
In my mind, Larry King is the perfect example of the theory that, once
you make it to a certain level, your actual performance is completely
irrelevant. His Paul McCartney interview a while back was similar bogus.
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 00:28:40 EDT
From: Mike McKay
Subject: Re: Brian Wilson as lone genius
FWIW, in the book "Wouldn't It Be Nice" devoted to all things "Pet
Sounds," Tony Asher paints a much more collaborative picture than
this. Surely Brian came up with the original "feels"; however,
Tony's input was not restricted strictly to lyrics, but was
welcomed on melodic and chord changes as well.
No one could rationally dispute the magnitude of Brian's
accomplishments. I think what rankles some is that the single-
minded focus on him makes out all other ingredients that came
together to form what we know as "The Beach Boys" irrelevant to
those who don't know better.
First, no one could possibly say that the vocals on Brian's solo
albums wouldn't have been better if The Beach Boys (rather than
Brian, Brian and Andy Paley) had performed them. True group vocals,
by their very nature, will always outshine multiple overdubs of
the same voice. Secondly, would you really rather Brian had sung
"God Only Knows" than Carl? Would "Feel Flows" and "Long Promised
Road" have been similarly better? And finally, there are many
Beach Boys tracks written and recorded with zero (or marginal)
input from Brian that are very good indeed.
Pointing these things out does absolutely nothing to diminish Brian
Wilson's genius. But failing to do so (explicitly or implicitly by
loudly proclaiming "Brian Wilson WAS The Beach Boys") does a
disservice.
Mike
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 00:58:06 EDT
From: Susan
Subject: Re: New "Smile" CD
David writes:
> I've heard the finished record, and I have a feeling that even the
> biggest nay Sayers on this list will be changing their tune once
> they listen....
I haven't heard the finished record, but i've seen live performances
of this music, and I agree with David. It will be darned near
impossible to hear this and not be blown away, regardless of what you
think going into it.
Susan
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 01:36:20 -0400
From: Country Paul
Subject: Magazines; The Truths, "Pending"; Jimmy Ford; Dan Fogelberg
Ed Salamon:
> IMHO, you haven't missed anything. I have subscribed to Goldmine
> since the '70s, and Discoveries since it began, and hung in hoping
> things would get better, but when my current subs run out, I'm gone.
> They must believe that they can attract a younger (and larger)
> audience by writing about more recent music, which -- regardless
> of its merits -- is just not as collected.
>
> In recent years, I have made constructive suggestions, and offered
> to write articles about projects that I've been involved in, but
> current editorial seems biased against the types of music we discuss
> in this forum. In my business (radio), I've seen this many times: the
> attempt to be bigger and younger with the resultant loss of the core
> audience and subsequent implosion.
Well said, Ed; you've crystalized my feelings about them - and about
contemporary radio as well. (Darn....) And thanks to everyone else who
replied to my query.
I'm curious if any information exists about a group called The Truths,
who had one very minor hit (maybe only some airplay) called "Pending"
back in 1965 on Circle 953, dist. by London. It sounds like a trio,
probably American, with a double lead vocal and a lot of Byrds influence.
Anyone know anything about them?
Davie Gordon, re: Jimmy Ford:
> RCS lists another Jimmy Ford, but since the "other" one, on Esther,
> has the same publisher as the Stylo single I think we can assume
> they're one and the same:
> http://rcs.law.emory.edu/rcs/artists/f/ford7500.htm
I missed this extra release - thank you! There's a sound sample of the
uptempo side of "Be Mine Forever," but not the song in question. (Darn
again....)
Eddy wrote:
> With the recent postings on Dan Fogelberg, I thought I'd let you
> know that he has cancelled his fall tour due to advanced prostate
> cancer.
Very sad to hear. I wish him health and a miraculous recovery. Fogelberg
did some excellent music, and creative challenging stuff especially
before all the hits, which we were proud to play on WHCN. A highlight of
that time period was being in the second row and seeing him open for The
Eagles (when they were new and fresh) and then join them onstage for a
few songs at the end of a long concert.
RIP Tony Mottola.
Country Paul
(eternally six days behind)
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 18:28:45 -0000
From: Davie Gordon
Subject: Re: Benny "Coffee" McCain / Robert West
John Berg wrote:
> I don't know anything about Benny Gordon, but that raises another
> question: Does any Spectropoper know anything about Benny "Coffee"
> McCain? He was another soul vocalist who sang on "She's My Heart's
> Desire" by Robert Ward and the Ohio Untouchables (Lupine L-109, a
> Detroit based label -- though Robert and the OUs were Dayton-based.)
> I have asked Robert and he has no recollection of who Benny McCain
> was (and since his stroke two years ago Robert probably remembers
> even less from the '60s!)
He's a total mystery, to me anyway.
For info. on Robert West's Lupine and other labels have a look at
the "Robert West Story" at http://www.soulfuldetroit.com
Davie
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 18:13:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Harvey
Subject: The University of Spectropop
Previously:
> My friend Scott McKenzie is well and still interested in music. There
> is no evidence that The Mamas and The Papas ever cut "San Francisco."
And it is for information like this that we come and kneel at our
keyboards, before the altar of Spectropop. Thanks for setting the record
right. I was merely relaying information I'd read, but your source is
obviously the closest outside of the late John Philips.
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 01:33:08 -0000
From: Margaret G. Still
Subject: Re: Benny "Coffee" McCain
Previously:
> Does any Spectropoper know anything about Benny "Coffee" McCain?
> He was another soul vocalist who sang on "She's My Heart's Desire"
> by Robert Ward and the Ohio Untouchables (Lupine L-109, a Detroit
> based label
The liner notes on the only LP I own with cuts by Benny McCain & the
Ohio Untouchables doesn't give much info on Bennie McCain, but here's
what it says in case you don't have this LP (3 Shades of the Blues /
Lupine 8003 / Relic):
"The Ohio Untouchables featured the gospel-tinged lead of the late
Bennie McCain. Known for their regional hit "She's My Heart's
Desire," some of the group later became the Ohio Players. Robert Ward
recorded the group mostly at United Sound in downtown Detroit from
1959 to 1961 when Detroit soul was just beginning its greatest days.
The unmistakable, haunting guitar of Robert Ward is featured on all
the songs that the Ohio Untouchables recorded."
There are four cuts on this comp LP with the Ohio Untouchables:
"Your Love Is Real" - "I'm Tired" - "Forgive Me Darling" and "Hot
Stuff." I'm fairly sure all have been recompiled on Robert Ward or
Falcons reissue CD's. All 4 cuts are truly great.
Don't know whether the cuts by Eddie Kirkland (backed by the Falcons
on 3 of them) on this album have been reissued, but they ought to
have been. I love these, and don't care for any of his other
recordings.
M. G. Still
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 22:52:02 -0400
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Re: A Glimpse of Smile
Steve Harvey wrote:
> Ever read the science fiction novel Glimpses by Lewis Shiner?
> The book is about a music fanatic that goes back in time to
> all these recording sessions by famous rockers, Brian Wilson,
> The Doors, Hendrix, The Beatles, and watches them finish these
> legendary albums including Smile. Shiner is definitely into the
> Beach Boys Smile sessions. Drops in things like "George Fell
> Into His French Horn". Out of print, but definitely a good read
> for any Spectropopper who wants to spend the time tracking it down.
Along these lines is Paul Quarrington's brilliant "Whale Music." A
reviewer on the Amazon site describes it better than I could:
> Anyone who has been semi conscious on Earth over the last 40 years
> knows that "Whale Music" draws its inspiration from The Beach Boy's
> creative genius; Brian Wilson. As I recollect, Mr. Quarrington's
> book hit the shelves at about the same time as Mr. Wilson's
> autobiography. Having read both, I would choose to re-read 'Whale
> Music'. At it's worst, its fictionalized takeoff on the man's life
> is extremely entertaining. At its best, it's a great satire of the
> media's reporting of Mr. Wilson's every ingested cheeseburger. I
> love this book and, I especially love Brian Wilson's contribution
> to the world.
I will add that the book plumbs Brian's psyche more than it does his
stomach.
The reviewer, by the way, gave it 5 stars. When I went to Amazon, to
refresh my memory on the novelist's name, and typed in the phrase "whale
music," Lewis Shiner's "Glimpses" came up in the #1 position, with the
book I was actually looking for only in the #2 slot. Both are available,
in used copies, for under $2 at Amazon.
Dig,
--Phil M.
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 08:28:44 -0000
From: Billy G. Spradlin
Subject: Re: Valerie Simpson demo @ musica
Mick Patrick wrote:
> Today, August 26th, is the birthday of Valerie Simpson. I have
> a special interest in the material she wrote in the mid-'60s
> when signed to Flo-Mar, the publishing arm of Scepter Records
> in New York. You see the Ashford and Simpson (and sometimes
> Armstead) credit on a slew of great Scepter and Wand 45s by
> Maxine Brown, Candy & the Kisses and many others. At the same
> time, over on the West Coast, the team's songs were being cut
> by acts like the Apollas and Mary Love. To mark Valerie's
> special day, I've posted one of her unissued demos to musica -
> "Baby I'll Come", written by Ashford/Simpson:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/files/musica/>
> Some of you might knnow the version by Mary Love, released on
> Modern 1033 in 1966.
When I was in Kansas last month I found a 45 by Tina & The Mustangs
"I"m Sweet On You" b/w "Smokey Joe's" (Capitol 5562). Both sides
produced by David Axelrod. "I'm Sweet On You" was written by Boyce-
Hart-Venet and is a sweet waltz-ballad. But the flip was an Simpson-
Ashford-Armstead song and it's a super upbeat track. I've Googled
and havent found anything about them, so does anyone know anything
about this group?
Billy
http://listen.to/jangleradio
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 00:19:58 EDT
From: Mike McKay
Subject: Re: A Glimpse of Smile
Steve Harvey wrote:
> Ever read the science fiction novel Glimpses by Lewis Shiner?
> The book is about a music fanatic that goes back in time to
> all these recording sessions by famous rockers, Brian Wilson,
> The Doors, Hendrix, The Beatles, and watches them finish these
> legendary albums including Smile. Shiner is definitely into the
> Beach Boys Smile sessions. Drops in things like "George Fell
> Into His French Horn". Out of print, but definitely a good read
> for any Spectropopper who wants to spend the time tracking it
> down.
I read this book soon after it came out and loved it. Obviously
written by someone to whom all of this stuff meant a great deal.
Besides the specific sessions you mention, the book is filled with
much namechecking of great 60s songs by Love, The Left Banke and
many others. Your mention makes me want to go back and read it
again.
Mike
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 04:27:40 -0000
From: Tony Leong
Subject: Re: Al Kooper's Landlord
Patrick Rands wrote:
> I was wondering if anyone could shed some light on why the wonderful
> soundtrack for the 1970 movie The Landlord by Al Kooper has not been
> issued on CD? ...
One of the songs in the movie, "Doin' Me Dirty" by Lorraine Ellison
(Valerie Simpson and Tasha Thomas are among the back-up singers), is
available on her compilation CD. But how I wish the entire Cd for that
great movie was on release. BTW, the apartment building that the Lannie
character lived in at the end of the movie is still there!!!! I just
wish I knew where in Brooklyn the building that was used throughout the
movie was located!!!!
Tony Leong
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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 05:13:31 -0000
From: C. Ponti
Subject: "98.6" and Keith
I was just reminiscing about what a unique song "98.6" was and how it
captured an innocent moment in Pop. I searched around the web and
discovered that the Tokens sang bg's on the song. Keith was one of the
definitive one hit wonders, a description which is not meant to demean,
since it is no easy feat to achieve one hit. Does anyone have
rememberances or info on Keith or this great cut?
C Ponti
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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 05:50:16 -0000
From: Don H.
Subject: Goffin and King's Honey and Wine
Me:
> I have posted "Honey And Wine" by the All Night Workers to musica.
> Didn't know there were two groups with that name.
Steve Harvey:
> Is that the Glenn Yarborough tune that the Hollies did such a great
> job on?
I should have posted all of the versions of this Goffin/King gem that
I know of. I usually do.
All Night Workers
Back Porch Majority
The Great Scots
Hamilton Streetcar
Hollies
Fran Jefferies
The Mindbenders
Glenn Yarbrough
There are also at least two other versions that I have never heard.
The Sounds Unlimited and The Why Four (sometimes spelled Y?4).
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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 11:33:54 -0000
From: Lyn Nuttall
Subject: Australian versions
My new website about the sources of Australian pop records (50s, 60s
& 70s) covers a lot of ground familiar to Spectropop members, mainly
because Aussie artists & producers cast their nets wide in finding
songs to record. I've acknowledged some Spectropop members who've
answered some of my questions here. Hope you can have a look... and
perhaps point out some errors.
It's at http://www.poparchives.com.au
Lyn Nuttall (aka Lindsay Martin)
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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 11:57:01 -0400
From: Joe Nelson
Subject: Re: Dickie Lee
Ed Salamon:
> PS: I now live in Nashville, where I get the chance to hang out
> with Dickey and S'Popper Austin from time to time. Do you remember
> "Hello This Is Joanie" by S'Popper Paul Evans? Another WHN hit,
> that only cracked the national Country chart.
Listrening to it now! Next up on the jukebox, Dickey's "9,999,999
Tears", another WHN classic. Austin, if you ever need to pay tribute
to Dickey live for his role in making "Rocky" a hit, try your hand at
this. A masterpiece in Dickey's hands, bound to be a masterwork in
yours.
Ed: You might be interested in knowing that about a year ago I located
a copy of Lee Arnold's "A Trucker's Christmas". Lee recorded this in
1976, when he was starting to get noticed in Nashville for his mic
skills but before Lee started his syndicated "On A Country Road"
program. Finding the record helped me settle a longstanding argument
with my brother. You'll remember when WHN played the song, it ended
with Lee saying (as Santa Claus) "merry Christmas, WHN, and good
numbers to all", double tracking the last part. I remembered that when
they first started playing the record the ending was "merry Christmas
to everyone" and the final words were single tracked. Yet my brother
insisted Lee recorded the song that way in tribute to his employer,
while I said it was a re-recording made to give WHN an exclusive.
Well, the record proves me right.It seems to me putting WHN's call
letters in from the start would have doiomed the song outside of New
York, but I have to ask: did anyone else play this record?
Joe Nelson
(a little bit country, a little bit rock and roll...)
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Message: 17
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 06:18:51 EDT
From: Al Kooper
Subject: Tom Dowd
Bill George:
> Jackie DeShannon's Memphis LP has (Tom Dowd's) "trademark" distortion
> on it, as do the extra unreleased tracks that came out on Rhino last
> year. The producer couldn't clean them up. But in my opinion, it
> really gives the tracks that vintage sound, and what an amazing sound
> it was. Pure magic (and soul) in the studio.
I think you need to seperately focus on the fact that magic was going
on in the studio i.e. great players, great artists, great songs. Now
wouldn't it have sounded even better if magic had been going on in the
control room ???/ I think so from my experiences....
Al
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Message: 18
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 16:41:12 EDT
From: Bob Rashkow
Subject: Re: Paul (Stefan) & the Pack
Thank you, Gary Myers, for the information! Actually, what little I
do know about Paul Stefan's recording career I learned from Jerry
Osborne's record guide. I heard something he did years ago (possibly
one of his solo singles from 1963 or so on Cuca or Dot) that a friend
had and I remembered really loving it. What I found out through S'pop
today is that the Royal Lancers predated the Bobby Fuller 4, didn't
know that; and according to Osborne he also recorded with Danny Peil
and Vilas Craig (I think they were actually both in the Royal Lancers).
Peil was in The Corporation in the late 6Ts, a fantastic psych-soul
band in their own right; excellent LP on Capitol. Bobster
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Message: 19
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 16:43:58 EDT
From: Bob Rashkow
Subject: Re: Dickie Lee, The Robbs
Most of Dickie Lee's 1965-1969 output is on my want list. (I don't
think I've heard any of it though.)
Let's hear it for the Donaldson brothers!!! aka The Robbs!! At last
on CD!!!! It was a race with the wind but they made it!!! Groove on.
Bobster
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Message: 20
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 00:11:29 +0100
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Early Ashford & Simpson Songs / Smokey Joe's / Tina & the Mustangs
Billy G. Spradlin:
> When I was in Kansas last month I found a 45 by Tina & The
> Mustangs "I'm Sweet On You" b/w "Smokey Joe's" (Capitol 5562).
> Both sides produced by David Axelrod. "I'm Sweet On You" was
> written by Boyce-Hart-Venet and is a sweet waltz-ballad. But
> the flip was an Simpson-Ashford-Armstead song and it's a super
> upbeat track. I've Googled and haven't found anything about
> them, so does anyone know anything about this group?
If you like "Smokey Joe's" by Tina & the Mustangs, maybe you
should watch out for the versions by the Jewels, Donna Loren and
Candy & the Kisses, all of which are just as good, if not
better. The Jewels actually recorded the song twice, for two
different labels.
Dunno very much about Tina & the Mustangs, except I *think* Tina
subsequently recorded solo for Capitol as Tina Mason.
Hey la,
Mick Patrick
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Message: 21
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 14:02:08 -0700
From: Michael Ggodin
Subject: Re: Diamond Masters
David Coyle on Masters and distribution:
> When a small regional label gets picked up for distribution for
> a national label, are the masters sold to the new label, thus
> being licensed to that label in the case of reissuing a number
> of years down the road? I ask this because I have two records by
> the Columbus, Ohio group the Fifth Order (recently the subject
> of a full-length CD reissue), both of which came out originally
> on a Cincinnati label called Counterpart. The first single "Goin'
> Too Far/Walking Away" was picked up by Diamond, while "Today I
> Got A Letter/A Thousand Devils" was then distributed by Laurie.
> Does that mean that licensing for such records belongs to the
> parent company of the redistributing labels, and do the current
> executors (for want of a better term) own the original masters?
As the former Vice-President of A&M Records, I can give you some
direction and possible answers. First and foremost, it would make
the answer obvious (or should) if you could uncover the original
agreement. In it it would indicate as to whether the masters were
purchased by Counterpart/Laurie or just licensed to them from the
group (Fifth Order). It should also spell out the length of the
term for the agreement; what happens to the label if they enter
into a distribution agreement, such as term, reversion of
distribution rights to the group. As well the agreement would show
if there was the option on the part of Counterpoint/Laurie to buy
the masters from the group. If there was no expiry date for the
distribution or licensing of the masters from the group, which I
believe could be contested, then Counterpart/Laurie, or their
subsequent owners, could easily continue to reissue the masters.
Unfortunately I do not believe there is a definitive answer. I also
underscore the fact that I am not nor have ever been a music
industry attorney but had many years in the record business in
putting agreements together and negotiating many many deals. Hope
this is of some help to you.
All the best.
Michael Godin
Michael Godin Management Inc.
Treasure Island Oldies
The Home of Lost Treasures
http://www.TreasureIslandOldies.com
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Message: 22
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 20:21:51 EDT
From: John Berg
Subject: Re: Benny "Coffee" McCain / Robert Ward
Dear M. G. Still,
It was that LP on the Relics label that got me started on my quest
to locate Robert Ward. Took me 5 years, but in 1989 I finally
connected with him (after many many contacts with people all over
the country) down in Dry Branch, Georgia. My phone conversation
with him that December led to his "rediscovery" and signing to
Black Top records, which released 3 new CDs by Robert, cut in New
Orleans. He later cut a final CD for the Delmark label, after
Black Top went under. In the meantime, during the early 1990s I
went to work tracking down the master tapes for all of Robert's
'60s music. Turned out that Relics possessed a few, but the rest
were in Detroit. I contacted those people and got Relics to agree
to license what they did not possess, in order to compile a
complete CD of all the tracks cut by Robert and his band the Ohio
Untouchables. In the process we came upon a few previously
unissued cuts, included on the CD. I also contacted other band
members and came up with the photos used in the CD package.
I spoke with Robert at some length during that whole period, and
eventually visited him and his wife Roberta at their Dry Branch
home -- "way out in the po po patch" as Hammond Scott of Black Top
once said. Alas, Robert knows nothing about Benny "Coffee"
McCain, so that is why I posted my inquiry to the Spectropop group.
John Berg
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Message: 23
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 19:11:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: Karen Andrew
Subject: Re: Patty Duke to get her star
I'm so far behind in these e-mails - just to Aug. 18! But I wanted
to thank Louis Wendruck for posting the photo of Patty Duke
receiving her star on Hollywood Blvd. Doesn't Patty look great?!
Good for her!
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Message: 24
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 19:21:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: Karen Andrew
Subject: Re: Goldmine
Ed Salamon:
> ... I have subscribed to Goldmine since the '70s, and Discoveries
> since it began, and hung in hoping things would get better, but
> when my current subs run out, I'm gone. They must believe that
> they can attract a younger (and larger) audience by writing about
> more recent music, which -- regardless of its merits -- is just
> not as collected.
This current mindset in the media and other aspects of society that
youth is better is frightening. I work for a newspaper and a number
of age 50-plus people have been eliminated one way or the other.
Also, they want to appeal to the "young professionals". It is
frightening to all of us who are considered old by those in power
especially when we still have a few good years left. This is all
strange to me as the largest part of the population is the Baby
Boomers! Hello!
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Message: 25
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 00:25:25 -0000
From: Billy G. Spradlin
Subject: Looking For Jaynetts
I'm looking to hear the Jaynettes' instrumental b-sides, and any rare
non-LP singles the group recorded as The Z-Debs, Hearts, Patty Cakes,
Clickettes and Poppies. If anyone can help please e-mail me off list.
Thanks!
There's a good discography at:
http://www.soulfulkindamusic.net/jaynettes.htm
Billy
http://listen.to/jangleradio
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