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Spectropop - Digest Number 1643
- From: Spectropop Group
- Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004
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There are 18 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: The Cowsills
From: Artie Wayne
2. Re: Whole Lotta Shakin'
From: Tom Taber
3. Re: The Fleetwoods' later recordings
From: Gary Myers
4. Evie Sands coming to the East Coast
From: Bill George
5. To James Holvay
From: Michel Gignac
6. Re: This year Christmas comes earlier
From: Artie Wayne
7. Re: John Lennon's Jukebox
From: Clark Besch
8. Re: The Cowsills
From: Michael Coxe
9. Re: This year Christmas comes earlier
From: Frank Jastfelder
10. Florida Rock in the sixties
From: Max Weiner
11. Re: The Fleetwoods' later recordings
From: Martin Jensen
12. Re: "I Can't Make It Alone"
From: Ken Silverwood
13. Re: Lion Sleeps Tonight
From: Phil X Milstein
14. Gillian Hills; Dutch rock site; Adam Marsland; Karl Hammel, Jr. and a good doo-wop listening site; more
From: Country Paul
15. Re: Susan Cowsill
From: Phil X Milstein
16. Darlene Love live at Joe's Pub, NY
From: Mick Patrick
17. Re: Florida Rock in the sixties - Savage Lost
From: Mick Patrick
18. Jack Nitzsche at Spectropop update
From: Martin Roberts
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 13:48:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: Artie Wayne
Subject: Re: The Cowsills
It's really good to hear so many nice things about the Cowsills. My
partner Kelli Ross and I represented their publishing before they
scored their first hits. When they were signed to Lenny Stogel
management we gave them their publishing back...but maintained a
good relationship with the family. I even got them to record a song
co-written by fellow Spectropopper Carey Budnick, "Ask the Children",
which was on "The Rain, The Park and Other Things" album.
About 12 years later, I became freindly with Dwight Twilley and his
girlfriend Susan. When the two of us realized how we knew each other
it took us all to another level. The last time I saw Susan and her
brothers was when I presented The Cowsills in concert at Genghis
Cohen's Cantina in the mid-90s. I'm sorry to hear that Bill has been
having health problems...I'm praying for him.
regards, Artie Wayne
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 08:55:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tom Taber
Subject: Re: Whole Lotta Shakin'
Ed B wrote:
> ... the "Whole Lotta Shakin'" website:
> http://home.rochester.rr.com/wls1/wls.htm
> Whole Lotta Skakin' is a great radio show on Sunday 4pm-7pm (Eastern
> Time) from RIT in Rochester N.Y. available over the internet WITR
> Radio (son goes to college there discovered this program a few years
> ago.)
Bobby Lloyd Hicks and I were guests on the show in mid-July, when the
Skeletons "'LIVE' at the Amador 1979" CD was unleashed on the world.
Mike Murray plays a cut from it about every week, and it's now #4 on
his monthly countdown. I too am an RIT grad, with a degree in
Professional Photography. And, strangely enough, it was an intimate
glimpse at Gillian Hills in "Blow-up" that sent me down that
unfortunate path!
Tom Taber
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 10:24:28 -0700
From: Gary Myers
Subject: Re: The Fleetwoods' later recordings
Martin Jensen:
> ... there are two songs in particular thar really blow my mind:
> "Before and After (Losing You)" and "Lonely is as Lonely Does",
> both recorded in 64 ...
So apparently that means that the Fleetwoods released the former song
before Chad & Jeremy did?
gem
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 13:47:58 EDT
From: Bill George
Subject: Evie Sands coming to the East Coast
My friend Adam Marsland is coming to New York and New Jersey with his
band, and he just told me Evie Sands will be in the band on guitar
and vocals! So if any of you are interested, here's the info:
Adam Marsland + His Chaos Band
Sun., Oct. 17 (3 pm.) -- My Dining Room house party, New Brunswick, NJ
see http://www.mydiningroom.com for more information
Sun., Oct. 17 (7:30 pm.) -- Luna Lounge, New York City, NY
171 Ludlow St. (212) 260-2323
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 20:01:50 -0000
From: Michel Gignac
Subject: To James Holvay
James Holvay wrote:
> I played guitar on a few sessions with Billy Davis as the producer.
> He was a perfect gentleman and a "master" in the studio. We were
> young musicians in Chicago, trying to make soul music and he was
> God to us.
Just a couple of lines to let you know how much I love the songs
that you wrote for The Buckinghams.
Michel Gignac, Canada
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 13:58:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: Artie Wayne
Subject: Re: This year Christmas comes earlier
Santa Frank...How ya' doin'? I've been a good little boy, and I'd
love to be in your Christmas compilation album with a song I wrote
with George Clinton, Jr., "Little Christmas Tree" for Michael
Jackson. It was in the legendary Motown Christmas album which was
released in 1973.
If this isn't possible, I'll settle for a brand new Cadillac Escalade.
Thank you in advance, Artie Wayne http://artiewayne.com/
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 00:09:25 -0000
From: Clark Besch
Subject: Re: John Lennon's Jukebox
I only saw part of the show. Luckily, I have 3 brothers and one
taped the whole show. I have only seen the 2/3 at the end, but I
found it quite good, altho showing us all the list would have been
best, which they might have done at the beginning. What I did not
see was some of their biggest influeneces in there. I think the
reason is that the Beatles RECORDED their biggest heroes' songs
and thus, John would not likely have those in his jukebox, as he
might have been sick of singing those. I saw "Some Other Guy" in
there, but it was not a legit Beatles release in the 60's. On the
Missing in action list, first and foremost might be all the Motown
label covers they recorded, yet nothing I saw touched on that or
John's early love of Elvis' music. So, my point is that altho John
loved these 100 songs, they were not necessarily his biggest
influences or favorites, but more likely his faves from the 67/8
period. "Gonna Send you Back to Georgia" was scratched out
for "Lovin Spoonful", so his early faves got replaced at times,
just like we all had happen. I gotta see the whole show and see
what I missed. More comments?? Clark
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 23:23:24 -0700
From: Michael Coxe
Subject: Re: The Cowsills
Susan Cowsill's first solo record ships Sept 15. See
http://www.susancowsill.com
Her demo ep, sold to help finance the full lengther, ain't too shabby.
Billy - whom the fundraiser is for - as half of the Blue Shadows
released two of the best albums of the 1990's.
- michael
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 10:15:18 +0200
From: Frank Jastfelder
Subject: Re: This year Christmas comes earlier
Artie Wayne:
> Santa Frank...How ya' doin'? I've been a good little boy, and I'd
> love to be in your Christmas compilation album with a song I wrote
> with George Clinton, Jr., "Little Christmas Tree" for Michael
> Jackson. It was in the legendary Motown Christmas album which was
> released in 1973. If this isn't possible, I'll settle for a brand
> new Cadillac Escalade.
Dear Artie,
I guess you were a naughty little boy this year because Santa Frank
didn't chose "Little Christmas Tree" for his compilation. No
seriously, I really love the whole Motown CD "A Motown Christmas" but
we went for the one track, that isn't on the original sampler. Marvin
Gaye's "I Want To Come Home For Christmas". It's so deep and Marvins
voice is as vulnerable as it gets.
I hope you're not too disappointed. As for the Cadillac, didn't Berry
give you one in the first place?
All the best
Frank
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 07:58:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: Max Weiner
Subject: Florida Rock in the sixties
To my fellow Spectropopers;
I am curious now, ever since I read the article about the Sandpipers,
and Al Kooper's remarks about Steve Alaimo's record label in
Hollywood, Florida, plus our conversations about "The Razors' Edge"
from Palm Beach, is there any history available about Florida's rock
scene in the sixties? Any books or articles? Being a recent transplant
to Florida, and having survived my first 2 hurricanes, the only thing
I know about Florida's music scene is that Steven Stills & Tom Petty
are from the Gainesville area & Johnny Tillotson & Skynrd are from the
Jacksonville area. Also, were there any Clubs down here with any
notoriety, like Bob Eubanks "Cinnamon Cinder" in North Hollywood, Ca.,
or NY's "Peppermint Lounge"? Clark Besch, this seems like this is right
up your alley, but if anyone could fill me in, I would appreciate it
Thanks much in advance, folks!
max
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 10:34:38 -0000
From: Martin Jensen
Subject: Re: The Fleetwoods' later recordings
Gary Myers:
> So apparently that means that the Fleetwoods released ("Before And
> After") before Chad & Jeremy did?
Yes, according to the liner notes of the Fleetwoods' EMI collection,
Chad & Jerey cut a competing version after the Fleetwoods release and
had the hit.
with regards
Martin, Denmark
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 00:07:45 +0100
From: Ken Silverwood
Subject: Re: "I Can't Make It Alone"
Doesn't P J Proby's version of "I Can't Make It Alone" differ on the
See For Miles E.P CD to the one on the "Phil's Spectre: A Wall Of
Soundalikes" compilation on Ace, in that there is no "call & response"
on the former?
Ken On The West Coast
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 10:29:21 +0000
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Re: Lion Sleeps Tonight
Lyn Nuttall wrote:
> The best history of "The Lion Sleeps Tonight" that I've read is "In
> the Jungle" by Rian Malan, a detailed Rolling Stone article that was
> collected in "Da Capo Best Music Writing 2001". In fact, it's
> probably the definitive account, and it happens to be available
> online at the 3rd Ear Music website:
> http://www.3rdearmusic.com/forum/mbube2.html
This is one of the best articles I've ever read about the vagaries of
copyright law and its real-world application (or lack thereof), and not
to be missed by anyone who cares about such things. Object examples
trump textbook explanations every time.
By the way that Da Capo series is usually a lot better than it seems
from afar. It leans too heavily on industry-friendly sources to ever be
unequivocally commendable, in my opinion, but every edition I've seen
has included a good handful or more of excellent articles about subjects
of great interest and/or importance.
--Phil M.
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 01:18:57 -0400
From: Country Paul
Subject: Gillian Hills; Dutch rock site; Adam Marsland; Karl Hammel, Jr. and a good doo-wop listening site; more
Will Stos said:
> I just got "Dream Babes, Vol. 5: Folk Rock and Faithfull," and I
> love it. But "Tomorrow Is Another Day," by Gillian Hills,
> absolutely makes me melt!
Her "Look At Them," now playing at musica, is mighty sweet, too.
Davie Gordon:
> http://home.wanadoo.nl/dutchpophistory/introduction.htm
> I'm no expert on Nederbeat but this looks very thorough and well
> worth bookmarking.
And I'll come back for the music - but some of the group names are
pretty out there, sometimes possibly from being (mis)translated and
sometimes for just being cool. Some fave names: "Daddy's Act," "Double
Dutch" (of course), "The "Fruit of Mr. Hickory" (I can imagine this as
an art-rock band), "The Mozarts" (classical influence, of course),
"Pee White and the Magic" (hmmmm, doesn't translate too well) and that
wonderful redundancy, "Ronnie and The Ronnies." Now I should probably
look at their bios....
Mike McKay mentions http://www.adammarsland.com and his Chaos Band
including Evie Sands. There are a couple of tracks from his new band
available as mp3s, but you don't hear much Evie except for a couple of
lines (probably her on harmony vocal) in the second one.
Fred Clemens:
> Anyonone here know of any background on Karl Hammel, Jr., and his
> possible whereabouts today? Perhaps his most successful song was
> "Summer Souvenirs" [Arliss, 1961], but it seems he did many more
> on a wide assortment of labels.
He had another record called "Sittin' Alphabetic'ly," a doo-wop track
you can hear streamed at http://www.maronis-world.de/Seiten/mp3-demos.htm
(scroll down to "K"). This site has some excellent obscure tracks
streaming, mostly doo-wop and rockabilly from Bear Family; you can
listen to full songs, but they're not downloadable.
Hammel's "Summer Souvenirs" was also tied into Jimmy Krondes, who
recorded some of Paul Evans' songs; perhaps Paul could chime in here
with some help.
Mick Patrick linked us to Ronnettes photos at
http://www.photobucket.com/albums/0603/musicchef/ronettes/ . Very cool
pix, Mick. Is that Stu Phillips in the white shirt in some of the shots?
Andy re: Kenny Rankin:
> Is any of this early Columbia material available on CD? Been a
> Kenny fan since the early 70's.
Not according to his website, www.kennyrankin.com; if someone else
knows better, please chime in.
"Now it's time to say goodnight....."
Country Paul
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 11:19:02 +0000
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Re: Susan Cowsill
Country Paul asked:
> Is this the same Susan Cowsill who was involved with Dwight Twilley
> (another superb talent whose work harkens back to our era but who comes
> afterward)? There are some excellent comps of some early work and some
> really fine recent things by him available at Not Lame, by the way. (OK,
> back to our regularly-scheduled era.)
I wasn't aware that she'd worked with Twilley, but I am sure that --
within the pop music world, at least -- there is one and only one Susan
Cowsill. And long may she sing!
--Phil M.
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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 20:14:53 +0100
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Darlene Love live at Joe's Pub, NY
You can't always get what you want. Sigh. What I want at
this moment is to see Darlene Love live on stage at Joe's
Pub on September 22nd. Alas, it ain't to be. Are any New
York S'poppers likely to be there? If so, I'd love to hear
all about it afterwards.
Find more details here at Darlene's website:
http://www.darlenelove.com/schedule.html
Or visit the venue's site:
http://www.publictheater.org/show_detail.cfm?sid=1398#
Hey la,
Mick Patrick
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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 20:49:09 +0100
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Re: Florida Rock in the sixties - Savage Lost
Max Weiner:
> I am curious now, ever since I read the article about the
> Sandpipers, and Al Kooper's remarks about Steve Alaimo's
> record label in Hollywood, Florida, plus our conversations
> about "The Razors' Edge" from Palm Beach, is there any
> history available about Florida's rock scene in the sixties?
> Any books or articles?
Well, for starters there's the excellent book "Savage Lost:
Florida Garage Bands - The '60s And Beyond", written by S'pop's
very own Jeff Lemlich, the author of the Sandpipers article
that sparked your interest. I imagine you'll find more info
at Jeff's website, that's if he's survived the hurricane:
http://www.limestonerecords.com/
I'm not especially interested in Gargage Bands, but there's
much more to the book than the title implies. Those wishing to
read about Steve Alaimo need look no further. There's even
plenty for girl group and soul music nuts, such as me, to
devour. Annette Snell fans, this means you.
Hey la,
Mick Patrick
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Message: 18
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 20:02:02 +0100
From: Martin Roberts
Subject: Jack Nitzsche at Spectropop update
Have you wondered what Bobby Crawford's, "Mrs Smith Please Wake
Up Joan" (Del-Fi) sounds like? You've got the chance to hear it
playing on the home page,
http://www.spectropop.com/JackNitzsche/index.htm
Part three of Jack's interview with Karel Beer is playing On
The Radio at http://www.spectropop.com/JackNitzsche/radio.htm
Jack talks about the hits, learning to work and create with
Phil Spector, "Zip-A-Dee Doo-Dah", "He's A Rebel", "River Deep..."
his string lines and not arranging "...Lovin' Feelin'".
Martin
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