________________________________________________________________________ SPECTROPOP - Spectacular! Retro! Pop! ________________________________________________________________________ There are 25 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Zager & Evans in comic strip From: Doug Richard 2. The Swingin' Saints From: Gary Myers 3. Re: L. David Sloane From: Orion 4. Re: Carole King & Neil Sedaka From: Don H. 5. Re: Zombies / Love concert at Park West From: Kurt Benbenek 6. Re: The Germz From: Don H. 7. Re: Where The Girl Are #6 From: John H. 8. Re: UK MCA From: Phil Chapman 9. Re: Linzer & Randell From: Mike Rashkow 10. Sandy Selsie From: Bill 11. Re: Linzer & Randell From: Ed Rambeau 12. Re: Claire Francis / Smith From: Claire Francis 13. Re: Herb Alpert as vocalist From: Nick Archer 14. Re: Where The Girl Are #6 From: Mike Miller 15. Re: Beach Boys From: Austin Roberts 16. Beach Boys R'n'B From: Bgas 17. Re: Claire Francis / Smith From: Claire Francis 18. Burt B.'s terms of employment From: Phil X Milstein 19. Re: Pop music as fine art. From: Austin Roberts 20. Reparata & the Delrons "Look in My Diary" From: John H. 21. Re: Zombies / Love concert at Park West From: Mike McKay 22. whatever happened to Baby Jane Holzer? From: Phil X Milstein 23. Tourville's books From: Gary Myers 24. Re: days of Steam From: Gary Myers 25. The Zombies and Arthur Lee From: Stephanie ________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 18:21:27 -0000 From: Doug Richard Subject: Zager & Evans in comic strip With the recent posts concerning Z&E, I wondered if anyone else noticed yesterdays "Zits" comic strip. Take a look at the t-shirt in the last frame of the strip: http://tinyurl.com/67c7s Doug -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 11:09:53 -0700 From: Gary Myers Subject: The Swingin' Saints Previously: > Bert also debuted a tune called "Ginchy" which the Ventures put out > as a B-side of their "Lullaby Of The Leaves" 45 in 1961. Our 1961 band in Florida, the Swingin' Saints (with Dickie Betts) used to do that one! In retrospect, it seems like about half of our songs were Ventures and Chuck Berry, even though the Ventures had only had about 4 hits before we broke up. gem -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 14:47:24 -0400 From: Orion Subject: Re: L. David Sloane L. David Sloan sure doesn't sound like anything Doris Day would sing. I have it on a 45rpm that is by an relatively unknown singer. Now I will have to pull it out and see who it was. Orion -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 20:21:43 -0000 From: Don H. Subject: Re: Carole King & Neil Sedaka James Botticelli: > I found a copy of Neil Sedaka's 1982 autobio at a thrift shop in > Connecticut this past summer...He and Carole were quite an item > once upon a time. I guess 'Oh Carol' comes from that one...... Carole leads us to believe that Neil made more out of it than it was. Supposedly they dated one time. Neil is 3 years older than Carole, so maybe there are other songs about her. "Next Door To An Angel"? "Happy Birthday Sweet Sixteen"? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 20:56:35 -0000 From: Kurt Benbenek Subject: Re: Zombies / Love concert at Park West Bill Mulvy wrote: > I'm new to the group. Just wondering if anyone is going to the > Zombies and Love concert this Friday. I saw them both seperately > last year and was very impressed. This could be one of the best > retro 60s concerts ever. I saw Arthur Lee and (his incredible) Love at the Knitting Factory in LA a few months ago. It was a fundraiser and was easily the best small venue show I've ever seen. The enire "Forever Changes" album was performed impeccably, as well as a few choice Love "nuggets" I doubt if I'll ever see another 6-piece band AND a string quartet performing on a stage the size of a small living room. The current Love is definitely not a stale oldies revue, but a vital contemporary music act. They're playing with the Zombies here in Orange County, but I have too many concert cookies on my plate right now to take time to see them...but I do recommend them highly. Kurt Benbenek - USA -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 20:17:25 -0000 From: Don H. Subject: Re: The Germz Barry wrote: > I'm new to the group -- it's great. > Does anyone know about: > Vertigo 8001 - THE GERMZ - No Easy Way Down/Boy Girl Love Not that I have any answers just another question or observation. I have a 45 of "No Easy Way Down" by The Lit Candle, and I think it is exactly the same as the Germz. Anybody know anything about that? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 21:47:51 -0000 From: John H. Subject: Re: Where The Girl Are #6 Julio Niño: > I´ve just read on the ACE webpage that next month it´s foreseen > the sixth volume of "Where There Girls Are" is to be released. > This announcement produced an instantaneous greed attack in > me. Maybe Mick Patrick could be so kind and reduce my anxiety > by giving us an advance of the track list. If not I´ll have to > get a massage. Ah, this is music to my ears! Can't wait to see what gems await us. -John H -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 00:17:48 +0100 From: Phil Chapman Subject: Re: UK MCA Austin Powell: > In 1969 MCA also launched a short-lived MK singles series which > issued only UK artists. This label had the same logo in red against > a background of "orange/yellow swirls". Austin, or anyone - I remember an instrumental on the orange/yellow MCA label which was quite a hit (as I recall) and used for a Guinness commercial. It opened with a harpsichord figure that cropped up between each of the sung lines, (female 'dooh's). The title escapes me, as does the name of the artist, possibly just one word, although in actuality it was the "Sing Something Simple" Cliff Adams (my ex-boss) Singers. Phil C. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 20:19:24 EDT From: Mike Rashkow Subject: Re: Linzer & Randell Joe Nelson on Linzer & Randell: > ...the Toys' "A Lover's Concerto" and, for the Toys, they also wrote and produced Attack, which while a bit sloppy was interesting and unique as well as May My Heart Be Cast Into Stone, a great song (one of Phil C's favorites) and one that Ms. Ellie Greenwich and I produced a decent cover of with The Other Voices on Atlantic. Jack Madani: > Recent musical purchases: Rhino Handmade's "Come To The Sunshine: > Soft Pop Nuggets from the WEA Vaults" Thank you for the royalty. Di la, Rashkovksy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 00:27:05 -0000 From: Bill Subject: Sandy Selsie Hello members, Does anyone know of a female 60's singer named Sandy Selsie? I would like to know where she was from? She recorded on the Columbia label around 1963. I am trying to ascertain if she had a Michigan connection or not? Thanks Vinylspinner -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 20:35:18 EDT From: Ed Rambeau Subject: Re: Linzer & Randell I worked with Linzer and Randell at Bob Crewe Productions and know them very well. We were all signed as staff writers for Genius, Inc. at Bob Crewe Productions. They had the "A" side of a song by Diane Renay called "Unbelievable Guy". The "B" side turned out to be "Navy Blue". When Bob came into the office one day and played me the first acetate of "A Lover's Concerto", I screamed out "It's a smash". And it was. It was their biggest success at Bob's office. Ed Rambeau -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 21:16:04 EDT From: Claire Francis Subject: Re: Claire Francis / Smith More on Smith: I accidently hit the enter key and my mail got sent before I could say: I hope this give you a little info on Smith and thank you for bringing his record back into my life. When my husand Norman and daughters Kiva and Dawn heard the record they were astounded at the sound, the music and Smith's voice. They all kept saying "Mom I neve knew you could do such a thing" and my husband kept saying "I am so proud of you". My family knew nothing of my work in the studio until just this last two weeks and all because of Spectropop. THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN. Love & Light Claire Francis -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 21:13:20 -0500 From: Nick Archer Subject: Re: Herb Alpert as vocalist Phil M: > Sorry for not making myself clearer. Yes, the main source of my > affection for Herb-as-vocalist is "This Guy's In Love With You," a > record that never fails to stop me in its tracks. You might listen to "Come What May", where he sings a really laid back duet with his wife Lani Hall. I think it's on her "Blush" LP. Nick Archer Check out Nashville's classic pop and soft rock radio station SM95, now streaming at http://www.live365.com/stations/nikarcher -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 21:54:03 EDT From: Mike Miller Subject: Re: Where The Girl Are #6 I can not wait until I get my copy. The entire series of "Where The Girls Are" is one of the single best things that has ever come out on cd. Just fantastic!! Mike Miller, doowopdaddy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 22:14:00 EDT From: Austin Roberts Subject: Re: Beach Boys Mike Edwards: > Another successful 20 Golden Greats' compilation was one by the Beach > Boys from 1977, which, in spite of the number of Mike Love co-penned > songs, was a very fine album. Incidentally, it contained more non- > Brian Wilson tracks than any other Beach Boys' album: "Surfin' USA", > "Sloop John B", "Then I Kissed Her" and "I Can Hear Music". Some > members have drawn attention to Brian's skills as a producer, and > these four tracks are fine examples of this. The group didn't even > need a Brian Wilson song to make a great record. The songs you sighted were good but put up side by side to Pet Sounds, well, you tell me. Austin Roberts -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 22:16:13 EDT From: Bgas Subject: Beach Boys R'n'B Michael Edwards writes: > Another point about Brian Wilson songs is that they have zero r&b > appeal, which is why his work is not totally embraced by S'poppers. I don't remember the last time I listened to it, but what about the Persuasions version of the BW-ML song "Darlin" on A&M Records; would that qualify as r&b? Bgas -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 22:17:35 EDT From: Claire Francis Subject: Re: Claire Francis / Smith One more thing I remember about the "Smith" record. When I showed my budget to my boss, Roland Rennie, he nearly keeled over and said "You're killin me Claire". Smith was virtually an unknown artist and I booked (if my memory serves me well) about 40 people for that session! Love & Light Claire Francis -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 22:46:20 -0400 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Burt B.'s terms of employment Out of curiosity, does anyone know if Burt Bacharach was ever an actual employee of Scepter Records, or if he only ever worked for them on a freelance basis? --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 23:11:30 EDT From: Austin Roberts Subject: Re: Pop music as fine art. Previously: > ... you seem to be mixing apples with oranges; a minor pop > recording versus an internationally accepted master painting by > perhaps the greatest artist that ever lived. Even Barry Mann's > face must be a little red from the comparison. I may receive a lot of hate mail and run the risk of being called the Music Antichrist but, to me, the greatest of artists and composers of the past and present are, once again I say, much like the greatest writers (ALA Dylan's lyrics, Rogers and Hammerstein and Hart, Elvis's total one of a kindness, the Beatles, Brian Wilson, Phil Spector and a few more writers and singers are as important to their Genre as anyone else has been to theirs. Austin Roberts -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 01:55:31 -0000 From: John H. Subject: Reparata & the Delrons "Look in My Diary" One of my all-time favorite tracks, I simply can't believe it was never released as a single in its time. I remember reading here that the original master was in poor quality and Ace had to do some "splicing" before including it on the first Where the Girls Are compilation. They did a stunning job! Question for Mick: The song does seem to end abruptly. I know this wasn't unusual for singles at that time, but I'm wondering was there a bit of the song "lost" to tape decay? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 00:04:51 EDT From: Mike McKay Subject: Re: Zombies / Love concert at Park West Bill Mulvy wrote: > I'm new to the group. Just wondering if anyone is going to the > Zombies and Love concert this Friday. I saw them both seperately > last year and was very impressed. This could be one of the best > retro 60s concerts ever. I'm seeing the same bill this coming Monday in Cleveland, and will give a full report. I'm listening at the moment to the new Zombies album "As Far As I Can See." My second time through. My assessment is that it's very good, but not the knockout I had hoped for. Mike McKay -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 00:05:03 -0400 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: whatever happened to Baby Jane Holzer? Now at musica is the next installment in our occasional series of TV- only tracks. This one features the leonine Baby Jane Holzer singing "You're Gonna Hurt Yourself," from the March 28, 1966 episode of "Hullabaloo," hosted by Chad & Jeremy. Although her pop career was brief, Holzer seemed to do quite well for herself in other facets of her life – besides her involvement with the Warhol/Factory crowd, her activities have included operating an art gallery, co-producing the Oscar-nominated flick "Kiss Of The Spider Woman," and even owning an ice cream shop in Palm Beach! A couple of interesting websites on her: bio: http://www.warholstars.org/stars/jane.html chat w/ Anita Pallenberg (from '02): http://www.warholstars.org/warhol/warhol1/andy/janeholzer.html "picture": http://www.warhol.dk/entourage/jane.html Enjoy, --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 21:44:25 -0700 From: Gary Myers Subject: Tourville's books Previously: > Tourville's books are really weak attempts at documenting an area > ... WAY too many errors! Yes, there are a lot of mistakes, including spelling, but they remain the only printed source for much of the info. It was my contributing to Tom's Wisconsin book that led me to do my own. Besides the fact that I went beyond his format by finding the people and the stories, I was able to add a lot of discog. info and correct many mistakes, etc. But, I still have to thank Tom for his help. gem -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 21:46:14 -0700 From: Gary Myers Subject: Re: days of Steam Austin Roberts: > Na Na Hey Hey was cut in the last hour of a session Paul Leka was > producing on me. Geez, it seems like either Austin or Al K. have been involved in about half the records we all know! gem -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 25 Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 04:40:03 -0000 From: Stephanie Subject: The Zombies and Arthur Lee Hey Phil Mulvy I live in MD and they are coming here and I am going to see them. I just saw Donovan here and he was awesome!!! Im amazed at how good these guys sound for their age. He did everything except Atlantis and to Susan on the West Coast Waiting and Jennifer Juniper other than that he did all of the hits like Mellow Yellow and Wear Your Love Like Heaven and Hurdy Gurdy Man. Season of the Witch was better live than the record. I was reading the Herb Alpert postings and I agree there is something about his voice on This Guys in Love With You that no one else can do. He is no singer but he warms my heart with his delivery on this. When it comes to the trumpet he is not the best I have heard but he can deliver. I dont like him without the Tijuana Brass the oomph isnt there, its like John Fogerty he is good solo but without that rhythm section of his brother and Cosmo and the gang its not the same. I respect Fogertys talent but the bass and the sound is not there without Creedence. I think the last hit he had Old Man Down the Road was a mere shadow of what he did with them although I like it. If you get a chance go see the Hurdy Gurdy Man you will be amazed. Stephanie -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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