Spectropop - Digest Number 1711

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• Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004

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There are 18 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: The Albert Hotel, New York City
           From: Richard Campbell 
      2. Re: The Albert Hotel, New York City
           From: Steve Harvey 
      3. Re: The Eligibles on Shindig
           From: Bob Celli 
      4. Re: Touring Raiders
           From: Steve Harvey 
      5. Attention "Odessey & Oracle" fans!
           From: ACJ 
      6. Re: Caravan
           From: Phil X Milstein 
      7. Re: steel cans to Musica
           From: Frank Jastfelder 
      8. Re: Touring Raiders
           From: Gary Myers 
      9. Columbia - closed shop
           From: Frank Murphy 
     10. Epic Stereorama
           From: Phil X Milstein 
     11. Re: Dance with Claire Francis at Arthur's?/Sybil's?
           From: Frank Jastfelder 
     12. Re: New Girl Group CDs
           From: Gary Myers 
     13. Re: S'pop in New York
           From: Mikey 
     14. Re: Lala Brooks
           From: John Lester 
     15. Re: The Eligibles
           From: Gary Myers 
     16. Kenny Lynch
           From: David Walker 
     17. Re: New Girl Group CDs
           From: John DeAngelis 
     18. Re: The Eligibles
           From: Fred Clemens 


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Message: 1
   Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 13:38:21 -0000
   From: Richard Campbell 
Subject: Re: The Albert Hotel, New York City


Steve Harvey wrote:
> ... Had my uncle take me over to the Albert Hotel so I could see 
> where the Spoonful used to rehearse. Unforunately it was just a 
> dark, damp basement. No stories to be found.

Ahh yes. The darkness and dampness is legendary. It has always 
garnered adjectives that make me think of a primordial lagoon~











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Message: 2         
   Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 06:49:38 -0800 (PST)
   From: Steve Harvey 
Subject: Re: The Albert Hotel, New York City


Richard Campbell wrote: 
> Before The Lovin' Spoonful appeared, The Mugwumps were conceived at 
> the Albert Hotel. This group was Zal Yanovsky, Cass Elliot, Denny 
> Doherty and Jim Hendricks. 

You mean James Hendricks, right? For a moment I thought you were 
talking about Jimi Hendrix. A group with him AND Zally would be a 
little too much for most mortals.





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Message: 3         
   Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 16:18:32 -0000
   From: Bob Celli 
Subject: Re: The Eligibles on Shindig


Sean wrote: 
> I was watching a Shindig tape that I have and I saw a group perform 
> called "The Eligibles". They only sang one song but they weren't 
> that bad of singers. Then they sang backup on the song "I Saw Her 
> Standing There". Does anyone know any info on them? Like what 
> were their names and which key did they all sing (like alto, 2nd 
> soprano, soprano)?

If it's the same Eligibles I'm familiar with they were Stan Farber,
Al Capps, and Ron Hicklin (sp?). They backed Bobby Vee on a couple of
lps, "I Remember Buddy Holly" and "Sings The New Sound From England"
and single releases. One single that comes to mind right away is
"Where Is She". Capps also did some arranging for Snuff Garrett. He
also was the voice on Gary Lewis' "She's Just My Style" singing "don't
ya know that she's" in the background. Also, Ron Hicklin was the guy
that Gary Lewis sang along with on most of his records to keep Gary on
key. That's info directly from one of many conversations I've had with
Snuffy.
Bob





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Message: 4         
   Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 06:44:05 -0800 (PST)
   From: Steve Harvey 
Subject: Re: Touring Raiders


Mikey wrote:
> ... is that true, that touring Raiders in 1975 were the original band 
> from 1961 before Revere hired Smitty, Drake, Fang, etc?

No, younger cats, although Mark Lindsay was with Paul for some of the 
70s. There is a comical story of him being arrested while on tour for 
breaking up his motel room and actually being taken off stage. It was 
in one of the early issues of Kicks.





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Message: 5         
   Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 00:14:21 -0400
   From: ACJ 
Subject: Attention "Odessey & Oracle" fans!


Here's a link to an appreciation of the Zombies' music in general and
"Odessey & Oracle" in particular:

http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i=lost&s=baskin102704

Enjoy!

ACJ





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Message: 6         
   Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 11:42:30 -0400
   From: Phil X Milstein 
Subject: Re: Caravan


James Botticelli wrote:
> The only question remaining is when is the definitive "Caravan"
> compilation comes out.....I love Bert Kaempfert's with that fuzz bass.
> But hundreds have recorded it...

I just came across a vocal version of Caravan, by Sy Oliver & Orch.,
from mid-'40s. Writing credit there is to Ellington & Tizol, so I assume
the latter, whoever he was, was the cat responsible for the so-called
special material.

--Phil M.





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Message: 7         
   Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 20:13:34 +0100
   From: Frank Jastfelder 
Subject: Re: steel cans to Musica


Clark Besch:
> After comments about liking the Lewis & Clarke single I posted, I 
> thought I'd throw more "filler" out there with the soft sounding 
> Harper's Bizarre sing about a hard subject: steel cans! 

UN-BE-LIEVE-ABLE!!! Harper's Bizarre do a song about steel cans? Who 
had this idea? This is like Black Sabbath doing a commercial for cotton 
candy. Well, maybe they wanted to soften the image of steel. That would 
make sense.

Anyway it's a great tune. I'm a huge Harper's fan but was unfamiliar to 
this gem. Thank you very much Clark for sharing it with us. Is there 
anything to follow? Maybe a commercial for the US Forces? (Come To The 
Sunshine, hah, hah)

Frank J.







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Message: 8         
   Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 09:33:28 -0800
   From: Gary Myers 
Subject: Re: Touring Raiders


Mikey:
> Gary, is that true, that touring Raiders in 1975 were the original 
> band from 1961 before Revere hired Smitty, Drake, Fang, etc?

The only ones that I know for sure were there are Revere, Lindsay and 
Keith Allison. Our stays there overlapped by only a few days, and Paul 
was the only one I actually met.

I do remember Allison sitting on the edge of the stage during someone 
else's show (as if he were trying to make himself part of it), and I 
recall the piano player (jazz-standard oriented black woman), who was 
doing a single in another room, talking about Allison coming in to her 
gig and doing a poor job of singing some song with her.

gem





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Message: 9         
   Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 14:51:51 +0000
   From: Frank Murphy 
Subject: Columbia - closed shop


Previously:
> ... Jerry Fuller, I am not sure if he was independent or a signed 
> producer to Columbia Records.

Al Kooper:
> Signed producer. At least while I was, 1968-1972.

I always understood that Columbia artists had to use Columnia studios 
and could only work with Columbia producers. Is this correct?  I 
recall the Byrds recording "Eight Miles High" at RCA and then having 
to rerecord.

Frank Murphy

reflections on northern soul Saturday's two thirty pm 
www.radiomagnetic.com 
or listen to an archive show
www.radiomagnetic.com/archive/rnb.php





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Message: 10        
   Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 14:37:18 -0400
   From: Phil X Milstein 
Subject: Epic Stereorama


previously:
> ... Jerry Fuller, I am not sure if he was independent or a signed
> producer to Columbia Records.

Speaking of Columbia, anyone know of an LP discography for Epic's
Stereorama series? I'm looking to date one of those releases, BN 598.
I'm thinking of a nice brickoven pizza dinner, followed by a foreign
flick and then, if I'm lucky, some cocktails back at my place afterward.

--Phil M.





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Message: 11        
   Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 18:43:11 +0100
   From: Frank Jastfelder 
Subject: Re: Dance with Claire Francis at Arthur's?/Sybil's?


I know I'm a little late but I just wanted to tell that the club Claire 
wrote of must be the same Arthur's where the Wild Ones (feat. Jordan 
Christopher) recorded their album. The liner notes state that the band 
was some kind of a house band to the place. BTW the notes are by 
Jordan's wife Sybil Christopher who seem to have managed or owned the 
club. Hence the mix up with the names Arthur and Sybil.

Frank J.







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Message: 12        
   Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 11:37:05 -0800
   From: Gary Myers 
Subject: Re: New Girl Group CDs


Mick Patrick:
> ...there's a new volume of "Where The Girls Are" due on Ace Records 
> any second now...

I don't that it's on any CD, but "Wonder Where The Boys Go (When They 
Want To Cry)" is, IMHO, an excellent 60's girl record on Milwaukee's 
Raynard label, but produced in Nashville.

gem





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Message: 13        
   Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 10:12:28 -0500
   From: Mikey 
Subject: Re: S'pop in New York


Guys, if we have the get together in Manhattan, I would like to have 
my band "Mr Action and The Boss Guitars" play. We are a guitar 
instrumental band and play instro versions of 60s Pop classics.

Mikey







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Message: 14        
   Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 19:09:49 -0000
   From: John Lester 
Subject: Re: Lala Brooks


David Bell wrote:
> I've just got back from the soul weekender at Hemsby, where the 
> Velvelettes and Miracles performed to jam packed tight audiences. 
> Both groups were fabulous... But the real reason for writing is 
> that the wonderful Lala Brooks turned up out of the blue. I 
> recognised her straight away on the dance floor and phoned a couple 
> of friends (Mick 'n' Malcolm) in a great state of excitement. She's 
> a great little mover and I enjoyed my few moments of dancing with 
> the Crystals' lead singer. I then spoke with her over the 3 day 
> event several times and she is one smart lady. Unfortunately, I 
> couldn't stay to hear her sing Da Doo Ron Ron...

I actually talked to Lala (or should I say I listened - that gal can 
talk quicker than I can think!) whilst she was in Hemsby.

I told her about a track that I loved called "Chico's Girl".  She 
said that she didn't recall any song called that so I told her that 
I had a copy on my IPOD which I could play her.  I went to my room 
and came back with the track.  I played it and she heard it....it 
begins with studio chatter and then it started to play and the 
voices came in later - at thatr point, her mouth opened in disbelief 
and it stayed open....until it finished.   She said "yes, that is 
me. Where did you get it...I want a copy....amazing....."  I 
promised to find a way of letting her have a copy.

I said I loved the Crystals and my favourite track was..and I 
started to sing..."I'm A Woman (A Woman In Love)".  Lala said that 
this song was her favourite of all Crystals tracks and it was the 
only one she would ever re-record again.  She them proceeded to sing 
two verses and I intercepted with the "boom boom boom boom boom 
boom" etc.  She knew all the words and it was a really wonderful 
experience.

She has 4 children and lived in Bolton, Peterborough and Leicester 
for 6 years.  Later moving to Vienna where one of her daughters 
settled permanently.  Now she resides in New York.  She mostly 
talked girl talk with the Velvelettes but later performed on stage 
with the energy of a 17 year old.  She sung "Da Doo Ron Ron" 
and "Back Together Again" with the evening's star attraction, 
Ritchie Pitts who dated her sister some 34 years ago!  Her 
performance was clearly enhanced by the support of her old friends 
the Velvelettes and it was sheer joy to watch, David Bell missed a 
great show.....and Mick Patrick is probably still kicking himself!!

John Lester





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Message: 15        
   Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 11:42:42 -0800
   From: Gary Myers 
Subject: Re: The Eligibles


Mikey:
> ...The Eligibles were a well known three man harmony group that did 
> TONs of sessions in LA as backing singers ... If you listen VERY 
> closely to "This Diamond Ring" by Gary Lewis, you will hear Ron's 
> voice alongside Gary's...

Did they also do "Save Your Heart For Me"? I love that 4 Freshmen 
sounding line in the last chorus.

gem





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Message: 16        
   Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 08:10:06 +1030
   From: David Walker 
Subject: Kenny Lynch


Kenny Lynch can be seen on the cover of Wings "Band on The Run".
Several years later he produced a spoof on the Album. The album was 
"Band on The Trot" and featured Music Hall (later TV) comics Hylda 
Baker and Arthur Mullard. Interestingly, the choice of songs 
includes "Sha La La Lee".

David Walker





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Message: 17        
   Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 21:59:33 -0000
   From: John DeAngelis 
Subject: Re: New Girl Group CDs


Mick Patrick wrote: 
> ...there's a new volume of "Where The Girls Are" due on Ace Records 
> any second now. In the meantime, you might like to check out a CD I 
> just helped put together for the President label, "What Does A Girl 
> Do: Femme Pop From The President Vaults" (PRCD 157). It's drawn from 
> vintage US labels owned by UK Presdent; namely Select, Seville, Duel, 
> Joy, President and Shell... 

Nice compilation, sir! This will keep us happy while we wait for the 
latest "Where The Girls Are." 
Thanks,
John DeAngelis





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Message: 18        
   Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 22:02:19 -0000
   From: Fred Clemens 
Subject: Re: The Eligibles


I have an early album (their second of two on Capitol) by the 
Eligibles, and at that time (1960) they were a quartette. Here's a 
paragragh from the LP (LOVE IS A GAMBLE) that pretty much spells out 
the story of the group.

"Bob Zwirn, Ron Hicklin, Stan Farber, and 'Big Ron' Rolla sing with 
an irrepressible zest and momentum found only in the very young or 
very dedicated. The Eligibles are both. Just a shade over twenty now, 
the boys have been singing together since they were twelve. All 
through junior high school, high school, college and military 
service, these remarkable young men doggedly stuck together for 
better or worse. They rehearsed together on empty stomachs and full, 
with and without encouragement, in a tiny bachelor apartment, or in 
somebody's rent-free back yard, where they camped out in sleeping 
bags. It was a harsh discipline, but it paid off with a unique 
singing style that is polished to perfection."

As far as voices go, it mentions only that Bob Zwirn sang baritone, 
as well as arranging for the group. The LP is comprised basically of 
well known Standards to fit the theme. Here's the track listing:

LOVE IS A GAMBLE
I WISH YOU LOVE
DEARLY BELOVED
OVER THE RAINBOW
I COULD HAVE DANCED ALL NIGHT
ON THE STREET WHERE YOU LIVE
HOW HIGH THE MOON
YOU GO TO MY HEAD
THE LONESOME ROAD
WITHOUT A SONG
WITH THE WIND AND THE RAIN IN YOUR HAIR
MY OLD FLAME

Fred Clemens





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