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There are 17 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Brian Hyland
From: Mikey
2. Re: Jaynetts
From: Mikey
3. Re: Al On The Radio
From: Eddy
4. Kool Koncert Koming Up!
From: Laura Pinto
5. The Toys' "Ciao Baby" on CD?
From: Jeff Smith
6. The Tales Of Jonathan
From: Peter Richmond
7. Jaynetts Discography
From: Barry
8. Sally Go Round The Roses
From: Paul Urbahns
9. Re: The Velvelettes
From: Barry
10. Re: The Toys' "Ciao Baby" on CD?
From: Shawn Nagy
11. Ron Dante @ Musica
From: S'pop Projects
12. Re: Jaynetts Discography
From: James Botticelli
13. Re: Sonny Childe
From: Claire Francis
14. Jaynetts "Cry Behind The Daisies"
From: Phil Chapman
15. Re: D-Men/Fifth Estate
From: David Coyle
16. Re: Brian Hyland
From: Robert
17. Re: Brian Hyland
From: George Schowerer
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 10:17:19 -0500
From: Mikey
Subject: Re: Brian Hyland
Mark Wirtz:
> ....when I listen to "Greatest Hits" comps by the various
> legends of the early 60's, Brian's stuff always seems to stand
> out. Whereas other comps contain music that may be brilliant,
> the material nevertheless seems somewhat samey. In contrast,
> the diversity, creativity and originality of Brian's material,
> production, and notably arrangements, never cease to amaze me.
Agreed. I have two CDs-worth of Brian Hyland material that I have
grabbed from here and there, and this guy should have been a huge
star, he is very talented.
I also have a DVD of Brian doing 3 songs live during the 80s.
Pretty cool stuff!!
Mikey
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 10:26:09 -0500
From: Mikey
Subject: Re: Jaynetts
John Fox:
> While many oldies have surfaced in recent years on CDs and
> "Sally Go 'Round The Roses" always seemed to have 2 versions
> --one with and one without an organ.
Yes, John, I can!! My friend Ron Furmanek was producing a comp
and was looking in the vaults for tapes of "Sally". He found
several, and when he played them back, he found one tape that
was significally cleaner and had less hiss than the others. This
tape was a "stage" tape, it had everything except the organ and I
think some percussion. So, this tape was used for that comp since
it was so much better sounding than the final mix which was like
4 generations down.
Thats the story!!
Mikey
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 16:17:40 +0100
From: Eddy
Subject: Re: Al On The Radio
Al Kooper:
> He Hit Me - The Raw Nuts (feat. George Harrison)
Wanna fill us in on this one, Al ?
Eddy
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 16:14:07 -0000
From: Laura Pinto
Subject: Kool Koncert Koming Up!
Hi everyone,
For those of you who live in the Jackson, TN area, there's a
concert coming up in two weeks that may interest you. Kool 103
FM's Caravan of Stars VIII, on November 20, 2004, will feature
the following lineup:
Andy Kim
Billy Joe Royal
Big Bopper Jr.
Dale & Grace
Freddie Weller (Original guitar player on Down in The Boondocks,
former member of Paul Revere and the Raiders)
Jim Yester (The original lead singer of The Association )
Johnny Preston
Johnny Thunder
Roy Head
Robin McNamara
Tommy Roe
There appear to still be great seats available; just go to
http://www.kool103.com/concerts2.php for the details.
Hope some of you can make it there; this sounds like it's going
to be a fantastic show!
Laura
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 16:59:27 -0000
From: Jeff Smith
Subject: The Toys' "Ciao Baby" on CD?
I have a Toys CD, but it doesn't contain "Ciao Baby",
my favorite of theirs. Is it on CD anywhere?
Jeff Smith
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 19:32:40 -0000
From: Peter Richmond
Subject: The Tales Of Jonathan
Billy G Spradlin wrote;
> A mystery single for the experts.
> Tales Of Jonathan
> Wild Strange Girls b/w She Ups and Changes Her Mind
> MGM K13727 (black label)
> Prod. By Paul Tannan
> A Lamridge Production
Only a miniscule of information;
Weird(sic) Strange Girls was recorded in New York City 16 February 1967
She Ups And Changes Her Mind was recorded in New York City 21 March 1967
Peter Richmond.
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 09:33:35 -0600
From: Barry
Subject: Jaynetts Discography
I wish someone would compile a Jaynetts CD...
Meanwhile, I found this on the web:
The Jaynetts: This first 45 is actually Baby Washington singing
lead on two songs for The Hearts, that had been recorded in 1957.
This set of The Jaynetts was Zell Sanders' (The President Of J&S
Records) way of keeping all The Hearts various members together
and also of having enough members to form two groups. Zell Sanders
would not use this name again for another five years.
J&S 1765/1766 - I Wanted To Be Free/Where Are You Tonight (1958)
The Jaynetts core members from 1963 ~ 1964 Were Lezli Valentine,
Marie Hood And Louise (Harris) Murray. Other members: Ethel Davis,
Selena Healey, Ada Ray Kelly, Marlina Mars, Mary Green Wilson And
Iggy Williams.
Tuff 369 - Sally, Go 'Round The Roses/(Instrumental) (1963)
Tuff 371 - Keep An Eye On Her/(Instrumental) (1963)
Tuff 374 - Snowman, Snowman Sweet Potato Nose/(Instrumental) (1963)
Tuff 377 - There's No Love At All/Tonight You Belong To Me (1964)
The Poppies: A Group made up of various members Of The Jaynetts
(no relation to the Dorothy Moore group).
Tuff 372 - Johnny Don't Cry/(Instrumental) (1963)
Tuff 377 - There's No Love At All/Johnny Don't Cry (1964)
(Same label number as above 45, but comes in promo issue only)
The Clickettes: Members Lezli Valentine, Marlina Mars And Iggy
Williams. When The Clickettes (The Barbara English version of
the group) left Zell Sanders' Dice Record label they found out
that Zell Sanders had all rights to the name, so they changed
their name to The Fashions. Meanwhile Zell Sanders started to use
the various members of The Hearts and The Jaynetts to form a new
set of Clickettes. This was the only release from that line-up.
Checker 1060 - I Just Can't Help It/(Instrumental) (1963)
The Patty Cakes: A group made up of various members of the
Jaynetts, with a novelty song about the Beatles.
Tuff 378 - I Understand Them/(Instrumental) (1964)
The Z-Debs: A group made up of various members Of The Jaynetts.
Roulette 4544 - Changing My Life For You/I Would If I Could (1964)
Zell Sanders formed another set of The Jaynetts on the revived
J&S Label, core members now Evangeline Jenkins, Johnnielouise
Richardson (Of Johnny & Joe Fame, suffered a stroke and died in
1988 at age 43), Linda Jenkins And Georgette Malone.
J&S 1177 - Cry Behind The Daisies/Is It My Imagination (1964)
J&S 1468/1469 - Chicken, Chicken, Cranny Crow/Winky Dinky (1964)
J&S 1473 - Peepin' In And Out The Window
/Extra Extra, Read All About It (1965)
J&S 1477 - Who Stole The Cookie/That's My Baby (1965)
J&S 1686 - Looking For Wonderland, My Lover/Make It An Extra (1965)
J&S 4418/4419 - Vangie Don't You Cry
/My Guy Is As Sweet As Can Be (1965)
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
LPs
Tuff LP 13 - Sally Go 'Round The Roses - 1963 (the picture on
the album cover was pieced together by Zell Sanders, It shows
Lezli Valentine, Ethel Davis And An Unknown Young Lady)
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
The Jaynetts As Solo Artists:
Vernell Hill (Ethel Davis):
Tuff 381 - Long Haired Daddy/Sometimes Love (1964)
Louise Murray (Currently Performs As The Two Hearts With her
husband, Donald Gatling):
Verve 10376 - For Some/The Love I Give (1966)
Mary Sue Wellington (Mary Green Wilson):
Tuff 400 - Saved/Save A Little Monkey (1964)
Ada "Cry Baby" Ray (Ada Ray Kelly):
Zell's 252 - I No Longer Believe In Miracles
/Give Our Love A Chance (1963)
Zell's 260 - I Cried To Be Free/Oh Come Back Baby (1964)
Lezli Valentine (Now Retired From Music Business
-- Works For The Postal Service)
All Platinum 2305 - I Won't Do Anything
/I've Got To Keep On Loving You (1968)
All Platinum 2308 - I Won't Do Anything
/ Coward's Way Out (1968)
Junior Achievement ? - Who Said To Make It Legal / ? (1972)
Marlina Mars (Became Known As Marlina Mack and enjoyed brief
success by replacing Francine Barker In Peaches & Herb):
Capitol 4922 - Johnny's Heart/The Correct Form (1963)
Capitol 4997 - Just For The Book/I Thought I Knew Me (1963)
Okeh 7213 - It's Love That Really Counts
/Just Another Dance (1964)
MGM 13404 - Inside I've Died
/I'm Gonna Hold On (To Your Love) (1965)
MGM 13361 - Head And Shoulders/I've Gotta Please Him (1965)
MGM 13482 - Put My Love On Strike/Give Your Love To Me (1966)
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 12:55:38 EST
From: Paul Urbahns
Subject: Sally Go Round The Roses
John Fox asked:
> Sally Go 'Round The Roses" always seemed to have 2 versions
> --one with and one without an organ. Can someone shed some
> light on this?
The original hit version had the organ and was issued in mono
(as was the album). When Steve Hoffman was preparing a series
of Collector's LPs for MCA he found an early underdub version
of the song minus the organ, but in stereo. He had intended to
remixit to true stereo but, not finding the organ part, he
issued it without the organ.
He left MCA soon afterwards, and the folks there (at MCA) did not
know anything about product, so whenever anyone requested "Sally"
they gave them the only digital copy they had, which was without
the organ. Steve had never intended it to be issued outside of
that one album. It was intended as a stereo first for collectors
only. Without the organ the song sounds "stripped" and incomplete.
The best version so far is the one on on the CD "The All-Time
Greatest Girl Groups" (Varese Sarabande 302 066 110 2, 2000),
which is the stereo version with the organ synced from the mono
master. Hence, the organ is much weaker sounding than on the
original mono mix.
Paul Urbahns
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 06:34:52 -0600
From: Barry
Subject: Re: The Velvelettes
Frank Murphy:
> The Velvelettes The Motown Anthology Motown 980 937-2
Thanx a lot for the information. I went to Amazon.com and
it's not listed.
I found it at both CD Universe, http://tinyurl.com/55we2
and CD Quest, http://tinyurl.com/6d3co
I didn't realize it was a UK import.
Barry in Minneapolis
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Full track listing and cover pic at amazon.co.uk
http://tinyurl.com/6rmr8
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 23:22:54 -0000
From: Shawn Nagy
Subject: Re: The Toys' "Ciao Baby" on CD?
Previously:
> I have a Toys CD, but it doesn't contain "Ciao Baby", my favorite
> of theirs. Is it on CD anywhere?
Their charting song "Sealed With A Kiss" is not on CD anywhere either.
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 22:39:58 -0000
From: S'pop Projects
Subject: Ron Dante @ Musica
We wrote:
> A new feature article -- Ron Dante Remembers The '60s . . . And
> He Was There! -- has just been installed on the S'pop website.
> The piece was written by our very own Laura Pinto, who else?
> Access the article via the homepage @ http://www.spectropop.com
> or directly @ http://www.spectropop.com/RonDante60s/index.htm
Furthermore, find an unissued Ron Dante jingle, "Any Time Is The
Right Time", now playing at musica. The track was supplied by Mike
Rashkow. We'll leave him to tell you all about it. In the meantime,
cop a listen: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/files/musica/
Enjoy,
The S'pop Team
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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 16:57:10 -0500
From: James Botticelli
Subject: Re: Jaynetts Discography
Barry wrote:
> The Jaynetts core members from 1963 ~ 1964 Were Lezli Valentine...
I have two Lezli singles on All Platinum. She did credible versions
of The Moments' "Not On The Outside" and my favorite "I Won't Do
Anything". Never took her for a Jaynett. Viva Spectropop!
JB
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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 18:36:04 EST
From: Claire Francis
Subject: Re: Sonny Childe
Claire Francis:
> I also I used the Breakaways if my memory serves me (no "plank"
> please if I'm wrong) on the Sonny Childe album that I cut of all
> Sam Cooke songs.
>From Austin P.
> Would that be the Sonny Childe (of S. C. & The T.N.Ts) who was
> also/really R. B. Greaves of "Take A Letter Maria" (Atco-'69)?
Hi Austin,
The answer to your question about Sonny Childe is "Yes".
Sonny Childe is R.B. Greaves. He is also my ex-husband!
Love & Light,
Claire Francis
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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2004 11:38:26 -0000
From: Phil Chapman
Subject: Jaynetts "Cry Behind The Daisies"
Barry:
> Zell Sanders formed another set of The Jaynetts on the revived
> J&S Label, core members now Evangeline Jenkins, Johnnielouise
> Richardson, Linda Jenkins And Georgette Malone.
> J&S 1177 - Cry Behind The Daisies/Is It My Imagination (1964)
As contrived follow-ups go, "Cry Behind The Daisies" is not too bad.
Artie's self-constructed rhythm section is faithfully replicated and
the girls are bathed in echo, masking the fairly unintelligible lyric.
To add to the quirkiness, the song is constructed over a twelve-bar
verse and three-bar turnaround, except for the last verse where the
Jaynetts bring in the chorus two bars early, regardless of the track!
I've played my weary tape copy to musica. If anybody has happens to
have a better copy, please let me know.
PC
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Message: 15
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 11:59:54 -0800 (PST)
From: David Coyle
Subject: Re: D-Men/Fifth Estate
Mike Dugo:
> Ken "Furvus" Evans of The D-Men / Fifth Estate is also
> working on a "Best Of" CD that will include the band's hits,
> plus unreleased/ alternate versions not on the excellent
> Boston Skyline compilation.
I remember finally finding a copy of the Fifth Estate's "Ding
Dong The Witch Is Dead" LP, and being surprised at how different
some of the released songs were from the alternate/demo versions
on the Boston Skyline CD, which is excellent in its own right,
but is hardly a best-of collection.
I thought Sundazed was supposed to do some sort of Fifth Estate
reissue, but never heard anything more about it.
David
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Message: 16
Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 05:53:54 -0000
From: Robert
Subject: Re: Brian Hyland
Mark Wirtz wrote:
> when I listen to "Greatest Hits" comps by the various legends
> of the early 60's, Brian's stuff always seems to stand out.
Definitely agree! Brian's Del Shannon produced, self-titled
1970 LP was just put out on CD (Hip-O-Select) and is a total
gem. "Gypsy Woman" is total class, and even his version of "The
Thrill Is Gone" (of all things) is completely credible. Brian's
always been a definite step above your average 60s pop star.
Further info at http://www.hip-oselect.com/catalogue_hyland.asp
~Rob~
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Message: 17
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 16:27:48 -0800 (PST)
From: George Schowerer
Subject: Re: Brian Hyland
Mikey:
> Agreed. I have two CDs-worth of Brian Hyland material that
> I have grabbed from here and there, and this guy should have
> been a huge star, he is very talented.
Mikey, I was impressed when I did the Brian "Yellow Polka Dot
Bikini" demo at Allegro. He was really a nice kid, and yes,
very talented. I have no idea where the final was done but there
wasn't much difference. They basically stayed with exactly what
they did on the demo.
Regards,
George S.
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