________________________________________________________________________
SPECTROPOP - Spectacular! Retro! Pop!
________________________________________________________________________
There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: No Easy Way Down
From: Don H.
2. Re: The Mark IV
From: Clark Besch
3. Re: Kenny Dino
From: Davie Gordon
4. Re: Terry Melcher, R.I.P.
From: Mark
5. Re: Live in the U.K.
From: Clark Besch
6. Deon Jackson!!
From: Stephanie
7. Re: The (A&M) Sandpipers
From: Gary Myers
8. Re: The (A&M) Sandpipers
From: Phil X Milstein
9. Re: Michael Brown
From: Robert
10. Re: Kenny Dino
From: Irving Snodgrass
11. Re: Kenny Dino
From: Gary Myers
12. Re: Kenny Young
From: Mike Rashkow
13. Spoonful covers
From: Jerry Grant
14. Buffy Ford (and The Groovy Show)
From: Mike Kopka
15. Re: Terry Melcher, R.I.P.
From: Mick Patrick
16. Re: Kenny Dino
From: Austin Powell
17. Re: The (A&M) Sandpipers
From: Dave Monroe
18. Re: Deon Jackson!!
From: Phil X Milstein
19. Re: "Move Over Darling"
From: John DeAngelis
20. Re: The (A&M) Sandpipers
From: Rick H.
21. Re: Nitzsche discog.
From: Phil X Milstein
22. Re: Additional John Townley info
From: John Townley
23. 45 dishes & Paley Brothers
From: Jon
24. Re: The (A&M) Sandpipers
From: Paul Richards
25. Claire's S'pop gathering?; Goin' Back; Johnny Flamingo
From: Country Paul
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
Message: 1
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 03:41:30 -0000
From: Don H.
Subject: Re: No Easy Way Down
Barry Margolis wrote:
> I have two rare singles on a Roulette distributed label that
> has something to do wtih legendary George Goldner.
> THE GERMZ Vertigo V-8001 NO EASY WAY DOWN/BOY GIRL LOVE
I've said before that this is probably my favorite Goffin/King song.
I have a version by the Lit Candle that is exactly the same as the
Germz. Anyone have a story on that one?
There are a few versions I'm missing, so if anyone has this by The
Fondue Set; Janice Hoyte; or Mathilde Santing, please let me know.
DonH in NJ
-------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 06:14:52 -0000
From: Clark Besch
Subject: Re: The Mark IV
Hi, as happens often to many of us, I suppose, I was looking for some
music info and ran across info being discussed on Spectropop at the
time. So, here it is. All the talk of the Mark IV and Eddie and
Dutch made me think about a 45 I had.
Backtracking, I ran across an article in a Record World I was looking
in (for something else) and ran across an Eddie & dutch article. The
January 4, 1969 article surprised me, as I thought Ivanhoe was a 70's
only label. The article states that after 10 years with Mercury,
Eddie Mascari left Jan 1 1969. He and Ed Cody were building a new 8
track (eventually 16) studio at 528 N Michigan Ave to be known as
Stereo Sonic with completion expected Feb 1, 1969. He also formed a
production and record company (Ivanhoe Records) and 2 music
publishing companies, Bob-Cor (BMI) and an as yet unnamed ASCAP
firm. He was beginning to get production deals and sign writers and
artists.
The article continues to mention that at Mercury, Mascari was
driector of lincensing and copyright, GM of publishing division and
was responsible for writing and producing the mark IV's "I Got a
Wife". He was also responsible for bringing Major Bill Smith to
Mercury with "Peanuts" (Rick & Keens), "Hey Paula" (P&P), "Hey Baby"
(Channel) and others. Mascari also created Mercury's Storyteller
series of 16 Lps. His most recent discovery was Madeline Bell.
Anyway, not sure if any of this helps anyone. The 45 I had by Eddie
& Dutch was Ivanhoe 502, "Can't Help Lovin' That Girl" b/w "My Wife
the Dancer" (wr by Mascari/Wenzlaff). I also have an Ivanhoe 45 by
some group with the song written by Jim Peterik of the Ides of
March. Can't think of the group's name right now. And of course,
New Colony 6 fans might know that Ray Graffia's group after he left
the NC6 recorded an Ivanhoe 45 as Raymond John Michael. It was Bee
Gees tune, "Let There Be Music" (I think that was the title).
Take care, Clark
-------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 16:09:16 -0000
From: Davie Gordon
Subject: Re: Kenny Dino
Richard Williams on "Your Ma Said You Cried In Your Sleep Last Night":
> Now that's a record I've always loved. Anybody out there (Al K?)
> know anything about Kenny Dino?
Richard, here's a link to an entertaining interview with the man
himself - Al, you get a name check so Kenny certainly remembers you:
http://www.lirock.com/dino01.html
Davie
-------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 08:24:35 -0500
From: Mark
Subject: Re: Terry Melcher, R.I.P.
I wonder if Terry was writing a book. He had a lot that should have
been composed for posterity sake.
-Mark
-------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 06:17:28 -0000
From: Clark Besch
Subject: Re: Live in the U.K.
Me:
> My brother is going to be in England and Wales in March, 2005
> and is wondering if there is a site listing 60's artists
> performing live in those countries.
Dan Hughes:
> Clark, I'm a member of an internet group called My-Generation
> that discusses sixties British music. Most of the members are
> from the British Isles, and they often post informal reviews of
> the concerts they attend. A lot of those sixties groups still
> perform all the time. Your brother should have no problem seeing
> a lot of live sixties music! Check out the site:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/my-generation/
Thanks Dan, I am trying to join the group. By the way, the radio
London site was http://www.radiolondon.co.uk/index.html and it has
lots more like radio Caroline info and much more. Clark
-------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 04:56:08 -0000
From: Stephanie
Subject: Deon Jackson!!
http://www.evanstock.org/Deon%20Jackson.htm
This is the first site I have seen that has a picture of Deon
Jackson and how he looks now. There is also a mention of the Ronettes
singing backup on one of his songs.....
Stephanie
-------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 10:07:19 -0800
From: Gary Myers
Subject: Re: The (A&M) Sandpipers
Steven Prazac wrote:
> What Sandpipers (the A&M soft pop act, that is) titles would
> S'poppers pick as the best of the bunch?
I like "Free To Carry On", which charted as a single, and which was
co-written by Dale Bobbitt, with whom I worked for several months
around '76.
gem
-------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 11:12:08 -0800
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Re: The (A&M) Sandpipers
Steven Prazak wrote:
> What Sandpipers (the A&M soft pop act, that is) titles would
> S'poppers pick as the best of the bunch? They released quite
> a handful of elpees and I don't know where to start.
I believe The Sandpipers were the first to take the definitionally
aboriginal "Louie Louie" and turn it, somehow, ethereal. This was a
revolutionary act -- or, at least, an ingenious one -- and how they
intuited Point B from Point A I'll never know. Who was the brains behind
these maniacs?
--Phil M.
-------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 08:34:57 -0000
From: Robert
Subject: Re: Michael Brown
David Heasman:
> There is a radio interview with Michael and the other Left Bankers
> on the Net that was done in the past few years. It's at
> http://www.wfmu.org/playlists/shows/6334
Listened to the "interview", if you can call it that. While I love
Michael Brown's legacy, he just seems like he'd be extremely hard to
get along with. The type where, if you say one cross word, they're
gone for good. Extra-sensitive. Whereas, another person would shrug
it off and continue on. Witness his story about the Stories.
Rob
-------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 08:16:34 -0800 (PST)
From: Irving Snodgrass
Subject: Re: Kenny Dino
Richard Williams on "Your Ma Said You Cried In Your Sleep Last Night":
> Now that's a record I've always loved. Anybody out there (Al K?)
> know anything about Kenny Dino?
>From NormN. Nite's book Rock On:
Kenny Dino
Born 2/12/42 NYC, NY
Second of five children. Graduated HS in 1958, joined Navy for two
years as aircraft mechanic. After discharge in Oct. 1960, he began
singing career. Signed with Musicor Records in early 1961. In Oct.
of that year he recorded his only hit, "Your Ma Said You Cried In
Your Sleep Last Night."
Ken Haller
Michigan
-------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 10:09:33 -0800
From: Gary Myers
Subject: Re: Kenny Dino
Richard Williams on "Your Ma Said You Cried In Your Sleep Last Night":
> Now that's a record I've always loved. Anybody out there (Al K?)
> know anything about Kenny Dino?
Either Goldmine or Discoveries ran a story about him, maybe 10-12 yrs
ago (?). He sat in with our band a couple of times around '66, when he
was in the L.A. area, apparently to do some (or try to get into) acting.
gem
-------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 09:45:37 EST
From: Mike Rashkow
Subject: Re: Kenny Young
S'pop Projects announced:
> New @ S'pop
>
> Under The Boardwalk: An Interview With Kenny Young
> by Brent Cash
>
> Read the full interview here:
> http://www.spectropop.com/KennyYoung/index.htm
>
> Discussion welcome.
Wonderful interview. Particularly that little piece of intrigue
about Leader Of The Pack....hmmmm.
Di la,
Rashkovsky
-------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 13:37:31 -0000
From: Jerry Grant
Subject: Spoonful covers
previously:
> Speaking of Spoonful covers.....
Bobby Darin did a cool cover of "Lovin' You" (maybe the flip of
"If I Were a Carpenter"?)
Jerry Grant
-------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 19:37:03 -0000
From: Mike Kopka
Subject: Buffy Ford (and The Groovy Show)
I watched with great pleasure this cool 1969 clip from Robert W.
Morgan's "The Groovy Show" with John Stewart performing a few songs,
and Henry Diltz, then Chris Darrow each performing one!
http://www.reelradio.com/morgan/rwmgroovy67.html#rwmgroovy67
I especially got a kick out of Buffy Ford, and the adoring look on
her face as she sings with her husband.
She has a beautiful, beautiful voice, and I couldn't believe, after
checking all the usual places, that she never (other than those with
John Stewart) made a record of her own! Really heartbreaking that
such a talent was not more recorded - she has a gorgeous voice! Is
there any hope that someone out there knows of a recording(s) by her?
Mike Kopka
-------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 21:09:48 -0000
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Re: Terry Melcher, R.I.P.
Phil Milstein on the passing of Terry Melcher:
> I was surprised to read in Terry's obit this morning that
> he was Doris Day's only child. NOBODY should ever have to
> bury their child, but especially not Doris Day, and
> especially not her only one at that. A terribly sad event
> all around.
Indeed. Farewell to another S'pop hero. To mark Terry's
passing, I've posted to musica one of his earliest decks:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/files/musica
Details are: Terry Day "I Love You, Betty" (Columbia 4-427678,
1962); Written by Phil Spector and Hank Hunter; Arranged and
Conducted by Jack Nitzsche; Produced by Phil Spector. Some
S'poppers might be familiar with the song by the Crystals,
who cut it as "I Love You, Eddie", on the b-side of "He's A
Rebel". Spector and Hunter probably wrote the song for Connie
Francis.
R.I.P.
Mick Patrick
-------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 20:24:20 -0000
From: Austin Powell
Subject: Re: Kenny Dino
Richard Williams on "Your Ma Said You Cried In Your Sleep Last Night":
> Now that's a record I've always loved. Anybody out there (Al K?)
> know anything about Kenny Dino?
Kenny was a New Yorker I believe, recording for Musicor and released
in the U.K. on HMV at the time. Brit Doug Sheldon (on Decca) got the
honours with his cover version of "Your Ma....." just making the Top 30.
Sheldon was a past master at "nicking" U.S. hits - he also charted with
cover versions of Dion's "Runaround Sue" and Dickey Lee's "I Saw Linda
Yesterday". I don't think Kenny Dino had any other release in Britain.
Austin P.
-------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 12:49:47 -0800 (PST)
From: Dave Monroe
Subject: Re: The (A&M) Sandpipers
--- Steven Prazak wrote:
>
> What Sandpipers (the A&M soft pop act, that is)
> titles would S'poppers pick as the best of the
> bunch?
I'm partial enough to The Sandpipers' recording of
"Louie Louie," off their "Guantanamera" LP, to have spun it
out the other night. (Their "LL" + The Wailers' "Duppy
Conqueror" = Spiritualized's "You Know It's True").
I can't claim to know much about the 'Pipers beyond that,
and the "Beyond the Valley of the Dolls" OST. For something more
uptempo, try also the "Young Generation" 45 ...
Dave Monroe
-------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 15:44:00 -0800
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Re: Deon Jackson!!
Stephanie wrote:
> http://www.evanstock.org/Deon%20Jackson.htm
> This is the first site I have seen that has a picture of Deon
> Jackson and how he looks now. There is also a mention of the Ronettes
> singing backup on one of his songs.....
Gee, I don't know -- the different spelling (Ronnettes, as it is listed
there) and Chicago location lead me to think it's most likely a
different group.
--Phil M.
-------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 20:51:02 -0000
From: John DeAngelis
Subject: Re: "Move Over Darling"
--- In spectropop@yahoogroups.com, Dennis Diken
wrote:
>
> One of my favorite Terry Melcher productions is "Move Over
Darling" by Doris Day...
I like this one a lot, too, Dennis. Great sound and a sexy vocaI,
too! Think it's a Jack Nitzsche arrangement.
John DeAngelis
-------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 04:29:08 -0000
From: Rick H.
Subject: Re: The (A&M) Sandpipers
How fantastic to see some long-overdue recognition of this group's
brilliant recordings!!! Maybe the universe is telling A&M something
like "Get some reissues going"...
Some recommended Sandpipers goodies:
"Two Classic Albums from The Sandpipers" (Collectors Choice CD)
include the "Guantanamera" LP and their second self-titled. Standouts
are the legendary version of "Louie Louie"* and a sumptuous "La
Bamba" which will leave your head reeling...maybe. Early Sandpipers
classics were produced by Tommy Lipuma and arranged by the underrated
Nick de Caro* and Mort Garson.
"The Sandpipers A&M Gold Series" (A&M CD - getting very rare)includes
22 cuts from most LPs including most of the hard-to-find (and not so
great)final LP "A Gift of Song".
Japan is the home of Sandpipers on CD but not all original LPs are
available.
Here are some LPs worth hunting down:
"Misty Roses" - already mentioned.
"The Sandpipers Second Spanish Album" A masterpiece now unfortunately
only remembered for its T&A cover art. Sublime Spanglese versions of
"A Man Without Love", "Pretty Flamingo" and "Love Is Blue" along with
other unusual but brilliant stuff.
"Come Saturday Morning" LP/Jap CD if only for the final attempt to
recapture "Guantanamera": the haunting "Santo Domingo". By the time
this album came out the 'Pipers had well and truly gone down the MOR
toilet and the title track sealed their fate as a two-hit wonder.
But their legacy of recorded treasures deserves to be re-discovered
and appreciated in the context of a great listening experience and
some truly magical musical moments.
-------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 23:34:16 -0500
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Re: Nitzsche discog.
John DeAngelis wrote:
> I like this one a lot, too, Dennis. Great sound and a sexy vocaI,
> too! Think it's a Jack Nitzsche arrangement.
Indeed it is. When in doubt, one may always consult the Jack Nitzsche
Discography, as complete and definitive a work of this sort as you're
ever likely to find. For a guy who freelanced, was blazingly prolific,
and all too often received his label credit only as an afterthought,
the JND looms as a genuine achievement in pop documentation.
http://spectropop.com/JackNitzsche/discography.htm
Yeah,
--Phil M.
-------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 04:50:07 -0000
From: John Townley
Subject: Re: Additional John Townley info
That John Townley album note from Country Paul is a stitch – mainly
because it's not me (I'm the JT that did the Apostolic stuff and
other folk related recordings, plus streaming media journalism and
astrology). Although, on the cover, the photo does bear the family
resemblance – so much so that my own daughter sent me a remaindered
copy many years back thinking I could use an extra for myself, but
wondered why I never told her about it.
I didn't think anything of it at the time until years later a
Canadian woman, a great fan of the other John Townley, reached me in
an attempt to find him, and she shared what she knew about him. He
was/is English and did that album with his photo on the cover in 979,
see it at http://www.ianbairnson.com/recordings/town.htm for EMI, and
then a second one which I have not seen, though the Canadian lady sent
me a tape copy of it. She (and I) have been totally unable to find him
– though I have successfully and enjoyably found and contacted
other "John Townley"s on the Web, ranging from a great sculptor in
New Mexico to a pilot in Tasmania. It appears that the English
Townley felt EMI screwed him (they probably did – ironically, they
buried half my own songs as well) and he became totally soured on
music and went off to be a London cab driver, refusing to talk to
anyone from the music world. I'm not quite that bitter, I guess,
having the stars to comfort me(!). My closest search near-hit came at
ASCAP, where they had an address but couldn't give it to me because I
was no longer a current member.
His albums were on the light pop/rock side, with some nice cuts, as I
recall. I would be surprised if anyone found much common thread
between the English Townley albums and my Family of Apostolic double,
however, as they were clearly going different places. His have become
two of a genre of obscure "cult" pop non-reissued items on the
European market, mostly. If anyone actually locates the guy, I'd love
to speak with him. The Townley line in England and abroad is not that
large, hence the physical resemblance (the paintings at the family
seat, Towneley Hall, Lancashire, all look like my dad). I suppose we
should stick together, should we ever actually get together…
I just joined Spectropop at the suggestion of old friend and former
Magician drummer extraordinaire (not to mention songwriter of fame)
Alan Gordon. Thanks, Alan! If anyone has a lead on where to find the
English John Townley, please do let me know at DrJack811@aol.com.
-- John Townley (well, one of them...)
-------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 23:29:55 EST
From: Jon
Subject: 45 dishes & Paley Brothers
Hello all -
I don't post often as most of what is brought up here is new to me -
and that's a good thing. I've discovered a lot of great music through
Spectropop, so thanks very much. Just a couple of things...
1. Could someone post the Paley Bros 'Let's Stick Together' to musica?
I've always had a great interest in the Spector productions from the
70's. I thought I was aware of most of them, such as the Ronnie Spector,
Darlene Love efforts as well as the obvious album work. However, I did
not know about this one until the MOJO Ramones article. If I could hear
it, it would be greatly appreciated.
2. Got a catalogue from a company called Betty's Attic. They have a 4
dish set made to look like 45s. Thought they might be of interest to
the group.
all the best
jon
-------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 16:01:54 EST
From: Paul Richards
Subject: Re: The (A&M) Sandpipers
I love The Sandpipers, my favourites are 'Glass', 'Let Go', 'For Baby',
'Come Saturday Morning', 'Beyond the Valley of the Dolls' & 'Things we
said Today'.
-------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 25
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 01:46:00 -0500
From: Country Paul
Subject: Claire's S'pop gathering?; Goin' Back; Johnny Flamingo
Claire Francis:
> Just a thought. Regarding the S'pop get together - On February
> 5th, Al Kooper will be performing at Joe's Pub at 425 Lafayette
> Street which is connected to the Public Theatre. It's Al's 29th
> birthday as well! Wouldn't it be a swell idea if we could meet
> at Joe's Pub earlier for a few hours or in one of the rooms in
> that building and then after the S'pop get together, be there
> to celebrate Al's birthday.
Claire, if you're willing to put it together, I'd be more than willing
to come! Please keep us posted. (I'm still a bit less than a couple of
weeks behind, so I don't know if I'm the only respondant so far - can't
imagine I would be....)
By the way, Claire, that's quite a life - or lives - you've led! I look
forward to the rest of your website ( http://www.clairefrancis.com ).
Phil M.:
> Sunday's Observer had a really touching story on an English
> writer's search for his unknown daddy, who turned out to be
> L.A. doo-wop star Johnny Flamingo. Get a box of hankies
> ready, then check out
> http://observer.guardian.co.uk/omm/story/0,13887,1347716,00.html
Very moving indeed. Thanks, Phil.
And Happy Thanksgiving to all!
Country Paul
-------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
SPECTROPOP - Spectacular! Retro! Pop!
End
