Spectropop - Digest Number 1743

• From: Spectropop Group
• Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004

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There are 16 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Kenny Young
           From: Claire Francis 
      2. Greg Williams
           From: Weber Alves 
      3. Re:The elusive Michael Brown
           From: Al Kooper 
      4. The Three Bells
           From: Tony McGrail 
      5. S'pop New York gathering
           From: Claire Francis 
      6. Kenny Dino / Kenny Young / Terry Melcher
           From: Richard Williams 
      7. Re: "Goin' Black"
           From: Al Kooper 
      8. Re: Terry Melcher, R.I.P.
           From: Bill Reed 
      9. Re: S'pop New York gathering
           From: Mark Wirtz 
     10. Re: S'pop New York gathering
           From: Mikey 
     11. Marcie Blane and the Proustian muffin effect.
           From: Julio Niño 
     12. 60sgaragebands.com December Updates
           From: Mike Dugo 
     13. Re: Terry Melcher, R.I.P.
           From: Barry Margolis 
     14. Re: Sunny Gale
           From: Phil X Milstein 
     15. Vance Or Towers
           From: Weber Alves 
     16. Little Pattie
           From: Mick Patrick 


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Message: 1
   Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 08:34:31 EST
   From: Claire Francis 
Subject: Re: Kenny Young


S'pop Projects wrote:
> New @ S'pop
> Under The Boardwalk: An Interview With Kenny Young
> by Brent Cash
> Read the full interview here:
> http://www.spectropop.com/KennyYoung/index.htm

What a great article! Thanks for presenting it to S'pop. I enjoyed 
every little detail. You guys are great!!

Love & Light,

Claire Francis
http://www.clairefrancis.com





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Message: 2         
   Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 11:43:02 -0200
   From: Weber Alves 
Subject: Greg Williams


Is there anybody there, by chance, who knows a singer called GREG
WILLIAMS? I really, really love his songs. "Baby, You don't Know How 
Good You Are", "Love Will Find A Way", "I'll Never Want to Lose This 
Feeling", "Everything You Are". I am always trying to find a Greg 
Williams solo album, but never succeed. I am almost sure that he never 
released a complete album. Could anybody supply me more information on 
him?: His discography, etc. Off list replies only please.

Thanks, 
Weber








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Message: 3         
   Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 10:09:32 -0500
   From: Al Kooper 
Subject: Re:The elusive Michael Brown


Previously:
> (Michael Brown) then did work in the 70s with The Stories and then 
> the Beckies.

I've had The Beckies LP all this time and there are at least two world 
class tracks on that. If I wasn't so busy I would musica them. But I 
am, darn it.

> I have an email address for Robert Callili, co-writer of "Walk Away 
> Renee"... 

The Four Tops version is surprisingly good.

Al Kooper





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Message: 4         
   Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 08:05:25 +0000 (GMT)
   From: Tony McGrail 
Subject: The Three Bells


I am trying to locate the present whereabouts of the Three Bells as 
I knew them in the 60s while living in Liverpool. Especially Carol 
Bell. If anyone has any information it would be appreciated.

Tony McGrail





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Message: 5         
   Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 09:26:22 EST
   From: Claire Francis 
Subject: S'pop New York gathering


Hi Groovy S'pop members,

Regarding the S'pop gathering....if there is going to be one, NOW IS 
THE TIME TO LET ME KNOW.

I have a few days to work on this, but then, I will be swamped with 
getting my work project done for the Sundance Film Festival in January. 
So, here is the update:

I mentioned Feb 5, 2005 as a day to get together because I thought Al 
Kooper was performing at Joe's pub.   As it turns out, John Fox from 
S'pop pointed out the fact that the date was in Fact Feb 5, 2004 that 
Al did that show.   I read the "live" on Al's Website and when I saw 
Feb 5, Joes pub, I thought it was for 2005, but infact it was in 2004.   
It was confusing to me because there was no year after it.   

Okay, that being said, the next thing is, besides Phil M., only Clay 
Hall from upstate N.Y.   and Mike Edwards, said they would come.  So, 
now that the Al Kooper gig is out, who wants to make an S'pop 
gathering happen? 

Please let me know by Nov. 30th.   After I know how many people want 
to get together on Feb.5th, somewhere in New York City, then I can 
start working on it, and talk to "Country Paul" as per Mike Edwards' suggestion.   

Hope you all have a groovie and swingin' holiday,

Love and Light,

Claire Francis
http://www.clairefrancis.com





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Message: 6         
   Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 18:38:40 +0000
   From: Richard Williams 
Subject: Kenny Dino / Kenny Young / Terry Melcher


1. Thanks to all who sent information on Kenny Dino, particularly Davie
Gordon, who directed me to the fascinating Goldmine interview.

2. Thanks for the Kenny Young interview, including a mention of Clodagh
Rodgers' "Come Back and Shake Me" -- a guilty pleasure I file alongside
"Johnny Angel", "Sixteen Reasons" and "The Greenwood Tree".

3. Like several Spectropoppers, I think Doris Day's "Move Over Darling",
produced by the recently deceased Terry Melcher, belongs among the
immortals. And I hope people know the neglected follow-up, "Oo-wee Baby" 
-- same formula, similar effect. (By the way, has anybody ever managed to 
come up with a term for a girl-group record that isn't actually by a group 
-- eg Doris Day, Little Eva, Earl-Jean?)

Richard Williams





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Message: 7         
   Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 10:14:15 -0500
   From: Al Kooper 
Subject: Re: "Goin' Black"


Previously:
> Is there any version (of "Goun' Back") that can truly match or 
> surpass Dusty's?

There's an interesting interpretation on the Authorized Nils Lofgren 
live Bootleg circa '76. Anyone heard that?

Al Kooper





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Message: 8         
   Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 16:11:09 -0000
   From: Bill Reed 
Subject: Re: Terry Melcher, R.I.P.


Mike Griffiths wrote: 
> I didn't know it at the time but Terry Melcher had an incredible
> run from 1963 to 1966 with a string of amazing productions that 
> rivalled Brian Wilson and Phil Spector. 

Also there are the terrific recordings that Melcher and Bruce 
Johnston did with Curt Boettcher, most (some?) of which are available 
on the Poptones CD, California Music.

As for Melcher's association with the Byrds, it was sometimes 
strained. I believe that he is the one responsible for the earliest 
recordings by the group being done with top-flight L.A. studio 
session guys and gal (Carol Kaye?) replacing most of the group's 
players. A controversial but finally successful decision. I seem to 
recall that he was also the person responsible for getting Mom aka 
Doris Day to sign Jan (Berry) and Arnie to her fledgling Arwin label.

I also like Melcher's two solo albums. The one for Reprise is as good 
as anything he ever turned out for anyone else as producer. Both are 
still available in Japan on CD.

I think it is correct to observe that Melcher was easily as big a 
deal in his world of music as Day is in hers. Just not quite as much 
a household name.

Bill Reed








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Message: 9         
   Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 11:28:15 -0800 (PST)
   From: Mark Wirtz 
Subject: Re: S'pop New York gathering


Claire Francis wrote:
> Hi Groovy S'pop members, Regarding the S'pop gathering
> ....if there is going to be one, NOW IS THE TIME TO 
> LET ME KNOW.

Hello,

I would be very interested in showing up, hoping that
fellow 'Poppers and buddies like Alan Gordon and Austin
Roberts (maybe he could drag John Beland along) would
come. And, if he were to show, I'd love to meet Al
Kooper. Also, on the chance that Artie Butler lives in
NY these days, I'd sure like to give him a hug again -
haven't seen the old trooper since the LA opening of
his hysterically funny "Last Supper" musical... Maybe
I can talk Bob Lind into coming... And what about Phil
Chapman - won't he hop over for this? Then there is
Mark Frumento, the Jersey Hobbit -- surely HE will be
there!?...

Best,

Mark Wirtz





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Message: 10        
   Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 14:33:41 -0500
   From: Mikey 
Subject: Re: S'pop New York gathering


Claire Francis wrote:
> Hi Groovy S'pop members, Regarding the S'pop gathering
> ....if there is going to be one, NOW IS THE TIME TO 
> LET ME KNOW.

Claire, wherever you chose to have the Spop Party, keep in 
mind my band, Mr Action and The Boss Guitars would like to 
play. We do all instrumental versions of 60s pop classics 
and we are perfect for this event. Among the songs are:

Georgy Girl
Windy
This Diamond Ring (for Al Kooper)
Bad To Me
When You Walk In The Room
Love Potion Number Nine
etc!!

Mikey aka Mr Action





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Message: 11        
   Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 19:22:08 -0000
   From: Julio Niño 
Subject: Marcie Blane and the Proustian muffin effect.


S'pop Projects wrote:
> New @ S'pop
> Bobby's Girl: The Marcie Blane Story
> by Mick Patrick
> The month of December 1962 found the US airwaves filled with 
> female teen idols. "All Alone Am I", lamented Brenda Lee, 
> while Dee Dee Sharp urged everyone to "Ride", Mary Wells sang 
> about her "Two Lovers" and Little Eva warned her rivals to 
> "Keep Your Hands Off My Baby". Groups like the Crystals, the 
> Orlons, the Exciters and the Cookies were selling like 
> hotcakes too. Sitting pretty above them all in the record 
> charts at the time was MARCIE BLANE, who wanted to be . . . 
> BOBBY'S GIRL.
> Read the full story here: 
> http://www.spectropop.com/MarcieBlane/index.htm

Hola Everybody.

I was reading Mick´s new article about Marcie Blane (Thanks 
again Mick, and thanks also to the ever interesting Brent Cash 
for the formidable article about kenny Young; I´m also  very 
intrigued for the reference to " Leader Of The Pack"), when, 
affected for a Proustian muffin effect, I suddenly remembered 
one of the crucial moments in my musical sentimental education:

I used to listen to a Spanish oldies radio program called "Flor 
De Pasión" (in fact, I still do it from time to time), I remember 
one night, when Juan, the DJ, played Marcie´s "Bobby´s Girl" and 
Dusty Springfield´s "The Look Of Love" one right after the other 
(I was then barely a teenager, who was mainly into punk music), 
but those songs strongly impressed my imagination, and shaped my 
taste and I began collecting oldies records.

For every field of music that I particularly love (Jamaican 
vintage, teen music, girl groups, Italian and French vintage, etc.) 
I can trace to those formative moments, some of them inducted 
by that same radio program. It's funny how memory files that kind 
of sensations.

I´m thinking now that my compulsion of collecting records is 
somehow a pursuit of those original feelings, a pursuit of my 
innocence.
 
I´m getting too sentimental, it is probably the lack of sleep, my 
two cats find my new flat strange, and they keep wandering and 
meowing the whole night trough, like howling ghosts. I was 
considering sedating them but I think it would be better if I take 
the sedatives myself.

Chao.
Julio Niño.











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Message: 12        
   Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 07:27:56 -0800 (PST)
   From: Mike Dugo 
Subject: 60sgaragebands.com December Updates


Here's quick notification that the December updates to 
http://www.60sgaragebands.com are now online.  This month we 
feature three more exclusive interviews: James Weaver of Red 
Beard & The Pirates (they recorded the classic garage punker 
"Go On Leave"); Jim Corbett of The Per'Swa'Der...s (from New 
Jersey); and Craig Clarke of The Jades, who recorded two 
singles with his band on the legendary Fenton label as well 
as helped out in the studio for many other recordings.

Questions and comments are alway encouraged and appreciated.

Mike Dugo
http://www.60sgaragebands.com





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Message: 13        
   Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 11:32:10 -0600
   From: Barry Margolis 
Subject: Re: Terry Melcher, R.I.P.


Yes, a real talent and someone who will be missed, but it's notable 
to mention that as producer for Paul Revere & The Raiders and The 
Byrds, he was one of those 1960's producers whose produced albums 
almost always contained a rechanneled version of the hit single on 
their otherwise stereo albums.  All of these rechanneled hit tracks 
have since been remixed into stereo.

In retrospect, that was just plain stupid.  Of course, labels like 
Columbia were also to blame for not requiring that when the album 
was being prepared, the hit single must be mixed into the stereo at 
the time.

Supposedly Melcher was known for hating stereo, but if that's true, 
then why are his Revere and Byrds albums so nicely mixed into stereo
...except, of course, the hits.

Barry






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Message: 14        
   Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 15:54:26 -0800
   From: Phil X Milstein 
Subject: Re: Sunny Gale


Mick Patrick wrote:
> Failing that, I've posted to musica another lesser known Kenny
> Young song. Details are: Sunny Gale "Too Bad For You" (Canadian
> American 163, 1963); written by Artie Resnick and Kenny Young;
> produced by Jody Cameron Prod. Corp. Sunny had been around on 
> disc for over a decade by '63 ...

Perhaps so, but what of this "Jody Cameron"? Another early female
producer? Or, merely a boy named Jody?

> ... but comes across as youthful as Lesley Gore 
> after too much Pepsi.

You mean she burps a lot? Never mind, sir, as you have arranged 
things so I can hear that for myself.

As the famous bumper sticker reads, "My truck, yes; my dog, maybe; 
my musica ... NEVER!"

--Phil M.





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Message: 15        
   Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 09:55:14 -0200
   From: Weber Alves 
Subject: Vance Or Towers


Hi, I am looking for a song called CAN'T SMILE WITHOUT YOU (the same 
that was a hit for Barry Manilow) sung by VANCE OR TOWERS. I got a 
Vance or Towers album, but it does not contain this song. Could 
anybody tell me if they released this song in an aLbum or if was only 
released as a single? Is there any CD that contains this song by them?

Thanks, Weber





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Message: 16        
   Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 15:31:46 -0000
   From: Mick Patrick 
Subject: Little Pattie


Previously:
> Barbara Mills "Little Things Like That" (Hickory 1347, 1965). 
> ... Some members might be familiar with versions of ("Little 
> Things Like That") by Suzy Wallis, Linda Lloyd and Little Pattie. 
> They're all good.

Jim Fisher:
> ... you mention Little Pattie and her version of "Little 
> Things Like That". Any info on Little Pattie herself?

Little Pattie Amphlett was an Australian pop princess, equal 
parts Annette Funicello and Lesley Gore. She was aged just 14 at 
the time of her first record, 1963's "He's My Blonde Headed 
Stompie Wompie Real Gone Surfin' Guy". (I think I can already 
sense a ripple of excitement in Madrid!)

I have a handful of 45s in my collection, plus a nice compilation 
LP, "20 Stompie Wompie Hits". Pattie's story is nicely told by 
that great Australian pop historian Glenn A. Baker on the back 
cover of the album, a scan of which you will find in the S'pop 
photos section. Wax up your board, surf on over to the members 
page at http://www.spectropop.com/go2/members.html and click on 
"photos". Keep clicking on the photo for the more readable full 
size version.

I'd bung a track in musica, but I'm unsure if there are any Little 
Pattie CDs available. Maybe one of our Australian members could 
let us know please?

Hey la,

Mick Patrick





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