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There are 17 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: SGC Records
From: Ray
2. Re: Dolly Partonīs "Donīt Drop Out".
From: Julio Niņo
3. Re: Colpix-Dimension Story
From: Phil X Milstein
4. Bell/Amy/Mala/etc
From: Barry Margolis
5. Re: SGC Records
From: Orion
6. Singing Dogs
From: Fred Clemens
7. Re: SGC Records
From: Phil X Milstein
8. Re: Colpix-Dimension Story
From: Dan Nowicki
9. Re: Alvin & Olay
From: Phil X Milstein
10. Tigher, Tighter
From: Phil X Milstein
11. Darlene on Dave
From: David A Young
12. Re: Bell/Amy/Mala/etc
From: James Botticelli
13. SGC, Christmas, Monkee Davy
From: Bob Rashkow
14. Re: Bell/Amy/Mala/etc
From: Davie Gordon
15. Various
From: Clark Besch
16. Brian Ingland, Davy Jones
From: Davie Gordon
17. Re: SGC Records
From: Davie Gordon
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 15:22:13 -0000
From: Ray
Subject: Re: SGC Records
Larry Lapka asked:
> I know SGC was distributed by Atco, but someone on my
> Colgems site has led me to believe that SGC stands for
> "Screen Gems Columbia" which, if true, begs the
> question:
Kurland and his associate, Michael Friedman, had the Nazz sign with
SGC Records -- an off-shoot of Atlantic Records and Columbia-Screen
Gems -- in the summer of 1968:
http://www.vh1.com/artists/az/rundgren_todd/bio.jhtml
Info in above link about Todd Rundgren.
ray
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 13:32:14 -0000
From: Julio Niņo
Subject: Re: Dolly Partonīs "Donīt Drop Out".
Hola Everybody,
Country Paul asked about Dolly Partonīs "Donīt Drop Out":
> What style? And was this from her Monument period or from RCA?
> Is it available for listening anywhere?
Paul, "Donīt Drop Out" (Monument 922) is included in the
compilation "Where The Girls Are" Vol.1 issued in 1997:
http://tinyurl.com/4b86y
http://tinyurl.com/49ex3
Chao.
Julio Niņo.
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 09:17:36 -0500
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Re: Colpix-Dimension Story
Bill Mulvy wrote:
> The Colpix-Dimension Story also has a great garage rock classic,
> "Georgiana", by the Princetones.
Not on my copy, a 1994 2-CD set on Rhino. Anyone know the story of
what are apparently multiple editions of "The Colpix-Dimension Story"?
Frank Uhle wrote:
> I have the Michael Blessing 45 on Colpix, "Until It's Time For You
> To Go" and "What Seems to Be the Trouble, Officer."
Clark Besch replied:
> Agreed! BTW, I believe the A side is on Rhino's Colpix comp CD from
> 10 years ago.
Perhaps on the "other" "Colpix-Dimension Story," but on the one I have
the Michael Blessing contribution is "The New Recruit."
--Phil M.
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 09:29:58 -0600
From: Barry Margolis
Subject: Bell/Amy/Mala/etc
It's also interesting to note that once Clive Davis established Artista,
he virtually turned his back on the Amy-Mala-Bell vaults for years and
years....with only an occasional Lee Dorsey or Box Tops album in the
late 1970's and early 1980's.
It was left to Bob Irwin at Sundazed (we pause....now...to tip our hat
to a real hero of reissues....) to sign-on to do a few CD reissues for
Arista and to license the lesser-known projects to issue on his own
Sundazed label.
Still....the Amy-Mala-Bell vaults remains one of the least reissued and
there's tons of remarkable Pop, Rock & Soul just sitting there waiting
to be brought up from the abyss!
It would be swell to see:
a Girl Groups on Amy-Mala-Bell CD
a CD with early recordings by artists who made it later (Jerry Landis
a/k/a/ Paul Simon, etc)
more CDs featuring some of the most amazing Soul music ever issued
(Ralph Jackson's "Jambalaya" would surely amaze anyone who haven't
heard it....)
I wish Michel Ruppli - the writer who puts together superb label
discographies for Greenwood Press (Atlantic, Blue Note, Chess, Mercury,
MGM, Imperial/Aladdin, etc.) would do one on the Amy-Mala-Bell years.
There's no telling how many gems are hiding in their vaults!
Barry in Minneapolis
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 09:59:09 -0600
From: Orion
Subject: Re: SGC Records
Larry Lapka asked:
> I know SGC was distributed by Atco, but someone on my
> Colgems site has led me to believe that SGC stands for
> "Screen Gems Columbia" which, if true, begs the
> question:
I will dig through a few old books I have, I thought I remembered
that SGC had a different meaning than "Screen Gems Columbia".
However, it seems every year I seem to get something new confused.
Peace and Happy Holidays to each and every one of you. This is by
far the greatest group on all of the net.
Orion
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 15:45:14 -0000
From: Fred Clemens
Subject: Singing Dogs
It's that time of year again. In case you missed it last year, it's
been posted all over again, my special edit of the Singing Dogs
doing "Jingle Bells". It'll soon be accompanied with a little story
and pics. Also keep an eye out for a little something on Nat "King"
Cole's version of his "Christmas Song".
http://www.bobshannon.com
Fred Clemens
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 09:52:38 -0500
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Re: SGC Records
Larry Lapka asked:
> I know SGC was distributed by Atco, but someone on my
> Colgems site has led me to believe that SGC stands for
> "Screen Gems Columbia" which, if true, begs the
> question:
The one SGC 45 I own is of Nazz (no "The") doing "Open My Eyes" and
"Hello It's Me," both, of course, Todd Rundgren originals. I'd thought
I'd remembered the label as that of a tiny, unaffiliated company --
certainly the large and ungainly script type of "S.G.C." sitting alone
in the top portion of the label design is strongly reminiscent of so
many other microlabels. But in pulling the record out in response to
Larry's question, what I found is, in fact, a "distributed by Atlantic
..." (not Atco) tag along the bottom curve, and, most curiously, a
"published by Screen Gems-Columbia Music, Inc." tag on the right side.
It appears Donnie Kirschner had Rundgren under contract already at this
early stage of his career, and S.G.C. might well have been under
KIrschner's aegis. Why a Columbia subsid's subsid would've needed to be
distributed by Atlantic is a real scratcher, though.
--Phil M.
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 12:13:22 EST
From: Dan Nowicki
Subject: Re: Colpix-Dimension Story
Bill Mulvy wrote:
> The Colpix-Dimension Story also has a great garage rock classic,
> "Georgiana", by the Princetones.
Phil Milstein:
> Not on my copy, a 1994 2-CD set on Rhino. Anyone know the story of
> what are apparently multiple editions of "The Colpix-Dimension Story"?
He's apparently talking about the "Colpix-Dimension Story" that came
out on Sequel.
Dan Nowicki
Phoenix, Arizona, U.S.A.
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 13:25:35 -0500
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Re: Alvin & Olay
Claire Francis wrote:
> I think you should show the S'pop gang the photo! And please let us
It is there already. Our Photos area can be found at
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/lst . The "Alvin of
Olay" shot is in the bottom right corner. Most of our photos are
double-expandable; that is, clicking on the first thumbnail will bring
up an intermediate version, with a further link from there to the
full-size edition.
Holy happydays,
--Phil M.
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 13:59:12 -0500
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Tigher, Tighter
I've been hearing a recent cover version of "Tighter, Tighter" around
lately. This has got me wondering about the original, specifically
whether Alive & Kicking was a real group discovered by Tommy James, or
a studio ensemble he put together for the primary purpose of recording
that song. Did they make any other decent records?
--Phil M.
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 19:29:51 -0000
From: David A Young
Subject: Darlene on Dave
Attention, Darlene Love fans:
Her annual appearance on "The Late Show with David Letterman" is
this Thursday evening, December 23. In her 1998 autobiography, she
says that she'd performed "Christmas (Baby Please Come Home)" on the
show for 15 consecutive years at that point; if that's true, then
this is number 20 or 21. Viva tradition!
Happy holidays to all,
David A. Young
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 12:08:56 -0500
From: James Botticelli
Subject: Re: Bell/Amy/Mala/etc
Barry Margolis on Amy/Mala/Bell:
> It would be swell to see:
> more CDs featuring some of the most amazing Soul music ever issued
Even though the O'Jays' Philly International 70's material is
sensational, the ballads they did for Bell, reissued by Sundazed,
remain the quintessential O'Jays sound to these ears....
JB
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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 15:11:27 EST
From: Bob Rashkow
Subject: SGC, Christmas, Monkee Davy
I have yet to hear one of my favorite "ancient warhorses" of the
holiday season--Ross Bagdasarian aka David Seville & the Chipmunks'
"Chipmunk Song." Very dear to my heart. Meanwhile I am presently
listening to Eddie Rambeau's recent rendition of "Let It Snow......",
part of a series of beautifully done holiday tunes from his CD, The
Season of the Heart.
I think SGC was created for Rundgren because Kirshner and/or Rundgren
may have decided that the Colgems label was too commercially oriented
for the more sophisticated psych sound of The Nazz. Other artists
who put in appearances on the label, which I'm reasonably sure stood
for Screen Gems-Columbia (or at least they wanted the acronym as a
reminder) were The Willo-Bees, including the theme from the even
shorter-lived television series "The Ugliest Girl in Town"--and, very
briefly, Neil Sedaka!
I rather like Davy's rendition of "Any Old Iron" on his Colpix solo
album; the rest of the content varies, but "Theme for a New Love" is
certainly a time warp and must have spurred Davy on to "The Day We
Fall In Love" on the MORE OF...LP. Later he graduated to "My Share
of the Sidewalk"--from the 1969 album? How's your fath-UH, Bobster
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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 20:07:21 -0000
From: Davie Gordon
Subject: Re: Bell/Amy/Mala/etc
Barry Margolis wrote:
> I wish Michel Ruppli - the writer who puts together superb label
> discographies for Greenwood Press (Atlantic, Blue Note, Chess, Mercury,
> MGM, Imperial/Aladdin, etc.) would do one on the Amy-Mala-Bell years.
> There's no telling how many gems are hiding in their vaults!
Call it blowing your own trumpet if you like but I've been building a
database of A-M-B group releases at my A-M-B Yahoo group for the last
two years. I haven't finished inputting all the data yet but the listing
is, I'd say, 99% complete for the years 64- 69 and a bit less so for
earlier years.
A revised excel worksheet merging and updating all parts of the database
will be uploaded before the year end.
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/amymalabell/
It's considerably cheaper than any compatable Ruppli book, if such a
Ruppli book existed, and has the advantage of being sortable by label,
artist, title and matrix number.
Join the Amy-Mala-Bell Yahoo group and find out for yourself.
If anybody wants to send me $100 to be able to view this useful resource
- it covers well over sixty labels - contact me offlist :)
Davie
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Message: 15
Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 20:36:13 -0000
From: Clark Besch
Subject: Various
Larry Lapka wrote:
> Can anybody fill me in on SGC records?
Larry, I know that the Will-O-Bees had a 45, "Make Your Own Kind of
Music" on SGC also, besides 3 Nazz 45s. 3 of the 4 (not Nazz's "Some
People") had pic sleeves!
Phil M wrote:
> Agreed! BTW, I believe the A side is on Rhino's Colpix comp CD from
> 10 years ago.
Clark:
> Perhaps on the "other" "Colpix-Dimension Story," but on the one I
> have the Michael Blessing contribution is "The New Recruit."
Phil, I think the Colpix Cd of mine has "The New Recruit" only, but
does have "Georgiana" as last track also. Kinda like Rhino's New
Colony 6 Cd called "Colonized!" on the cover, but original Cds (and
all rest?) had "Colonization!" on the Cd itself inside, which was the
title of their 1967 album on Sentar.
Barry margolis on Amy/Mala/Bell:
> It would be swell to see:
> a CD with early recordings by artists who made it later
Barry, one would be Nebraska's Smoke Ring 45, "That Girl Was my Girl"
on Mala. It is very 4 Seasons sounding. Another, "Busy Signal" by
Flash & Board of Directors.
Clark
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Message: 16
Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 20:21:36 -0000
From: Davie Gordon
Subject: Brian Ingland, Davy Jones
Dave Monroe wrote:
> Anyone here familiar with Brian Ingland's "The World of Gorillas and
> Monkeys"? On Mala. I can find only a handful of mentions of it online,
> and most of those get the name wrong.
Clark Besch:
> Dave, I had never heard of Brian Ingland's before his early 70's
> Columbia 45, "Giddy on up", which is a great pop single. The 45 you
> mention is news to me. Who was that guy??
Clark, I replied to Dave's post over at the A-M-B group as it's an
A-B-B query.
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/amymalabell/message/278
Previously:
> So, although Colpix ceased to exist by the time "Last Train to
> Clarksville" came out, records on the Colpix label were still being
> sold--or at least Davy's album was!
Larry Lapka:
> Funny, but it seemed like I had seem Davy 45's charting in the 67
> period. While doing some research last night, I ran across David
> Jones' "Theme for a New Love" being a "Wax to watch" on Canada's CHED
> 4/24/67 chart. So, maybe Colpix was still gasping at that time!
I'm curious about who was manufacturing these Davy Jones Colpix
reissues. The album was apparently reissued with a redesigned cover -
a head shot of DJ replacing the original upperbody shot and some
changes made to the back cover. I'm trying to trace scans of the
reissue - I have a scan of the original.
The reissue also sported a sticker mentioning the Monkees - if
anybody's got a copy it would be interesting to see if the reissues
have RCA (Colgems) matrix numbers.
According to Whitburn's "Top Pop Albums" the "Davy Jones" album
charted on May 27, 1967 peaking at # 155 during a six week run.
Catalog number was the same as the the original 1965 issue, Colpix
CP493.
If I could lay my hands on my Monkees Collecatables' price guide I
could probably give you chapter and verse but I can't find the damn
thing.
Davie
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Message: 17
Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 20:50:27 -0000
From: Davie Gordon
Subject: Re: SGC Records
Larry Lapka asked:
> I know SGC was distributed by Atco, but someone on my Colgems site
> has led me to believe that SGC stands for "Screen Gems Columbia"
> which, if true, begs the question:
Phil Milstein:
> The one SGC 45 I own is of Nazz (no "The") doing "Open My Eyes" and
> "Hello It's Me," both, of course, Todd Rundgren originals. I'd thought
> I'd remembered the label as that of a tiny, unaffiliated company --
> certainly the large and ungainly script type of "S.G.C." sitting alone
> in the top portion of the label design is strongly reminiscent of so
> many other microlabels. But in pulling the record out in response to
> Larry's question, what I found is, in fact, a "distributed by Atlantic
> ..." (not Atco) tag along the bottom curve, and, most curiously, a
> "published by Screen Gems-Columbia Music, Inc." tag on the right side.
Phil, I think "distributed by Atlantic" meant it went through the group
of distributors, let's call them group "A" as opposed to the group of
distributors, group "B" who handled Atco and the "distributed by Atco"
labels.
The same sort of set up happened with VeeJay - some labels say
"distributed by VeeJay" some say "distributed by Tollie" - the "don't
put all your eggs in one basket" philosophy.
> It appears Donnie Kirschner had Rundgren under contract already at this
> early stage of his career, and S.G.C. might well have been under
> KIrschner's aegis. Why a Columbia subsid's subsid would've needed to be
> distributed by Atlantic is a real scratcher, though.
"Columbia subsid" - SGC was part of Columbia Pictures - a separate
company to Columbia Records which is why Colgems went throught RCA. Why
they decided they needed a second label distributed by Atlantic is
something I don't understand. Maybe it it was doen to keep Michael
Kurland, the Nazz's manager happy - "of course you'll be dealt with
separately from the Monkees, just sign here ..."
If I can find it I have a scan of the Billboard story announcing the
launch of the SGC label with the ususl historic contract signing photo
- Erteugun was there for Atlantic, Kirshner for SGC. Can't remenber if
Jerry Wexler was there - if he was I'm sure it was just for appearance's
sake as I doubt he cared either way about distirbuting the Nazz.
Davie
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