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Spectropop - Digest Number 1783
- From: Spectropop Group
- Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005
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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: France Gall´s in German
From: Julio Niño
2. Re: "Beyond The Sea" -- Bobby Darin/Kevin Spacey movie
From: Artie Wayne
3. Re: Amy-Mala-Bell
From: Artie Wayne
4. Re: Claire Francis' Polydor records
From: Claire Francis
5. A Whiter Shade Of Pale
From: Richard Havers
6. Louisville's Own book
From: Mike Dugo
7. Re: France Gall
From: John H
8. Re: Who Killed Teddy Bear . . . and the b-side
From: Davie Gordon
9. Different British versions
From: Mike Edwards
10. Jacqueline Taieb
From: Lyn Nuttall
11. French covers
From: Artie Wayne
12. Joe Jeffrey Group
From: Shawn Nagy
13. Captain Marvel Jones/Super Dupers/Leon Russell
From: Marese
14. Re: France Gall
From: Phil X Milstein
15. Charlie Francis
From: Simon White
16. Free Kitten
From: Bruce Milne
17. Re: Dusty B-sides
From: ACJ
18. Re: Louisville's Own book
From: Gary Myers
19. Re: France Gall
From: Dave Monroe
20. Ghost Riders In The Sky
From: Paul Urbahns
21. Re: French covers - Jean/John Musy
From: Dave Monroe
22. Re: Dusty B-sides
From: Tony Leong
23. Re: France Gall
From: Dave Monroe
24. Re: Who Killed Teddy Bear
From: Davie Gordon
25. Claire Francis and Two's Company
From: Mick Patrick
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 16:17:34 -0000
From: Julio Niño
Subject: Re: France Gall´s in German
Hola Everybody:
Frank:
> Dave, if you have any foreign languages France Gall tracks, could
> you either play them at Musica or send them over? I see France
> quite regularly and I'm pretty sure she hasn't got any of these
> tracks and would love to hear them again...
Hola Frank, there´s a great CD with a collection of France Gall´s
songs in German issued between 1968 and 1972 in Decca. It was
released in 1998. France looks beautiful in the picture on the cover
of the CD, like a sleepless child with sexy raccoon bags under her
eyes.
Chao.
Julio Niño.
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 10:48:27 -0800 (PST)
From: Artie Wayne
Subject: Re: "Beyond The Sea" -- Bobby Darin/Kevin Spacey movie
Steve...How ya' doin'? You have a point when you say, "Having someone
as old as Spacey playing Darin is pointless"...but I've seen a couple
of clips that Spacey brought to talk shows and I was mesmerized!. Not
only was his singing spot on but so was his dramatic portrail. I knew
Bobby on many different levels and he always seemed like an "old soul"
to me...so having someone "older" portray him isn't a problem for me.
Bobby Darin was one of my earliest mentors. I met and became friendly
with him backstage at an Alan Freed Rock n'Roll in 1960. I sang and
played my songs for him and me sent me to Donnie Kirshner, who signed
me to Aldon music just before I was graduated from high school.
In 1963, when he was producing Wayne Newton, Bobby put a song that Ben
Raleigh and I wrote, "Better Now than Later" on the b-side of "Danke
Schoen", and recorded "Train to the Sky" [Raleigh/ Wayne], himself on
his own folk album.
Throughout the years and my stints at various publishing companies we
stayed in touch and I gave him song that he recorded, incuding "Sail
Away" [Newman] and "Freedom for the Stallion" [Toussant]. Everytime
I'd see him, the first thing he wanted to know was how I was getting
along after being one of the first people in the U.S. to have open
heart surgery in 1965. I remember the hours I'd spend telling him how
well I was doing and how he shouldn't be afraid to have a similar
operation. Unfortunately, he waited too long.
"Beyond the Sea" just opened here, as soon as I see it I'll post my
critique.
regards, Artie Wayne
http://artiewayne.com/
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 09:44:05 -0800 (PST)
From: Artie Wayne
Subject: Re: Amy-Mala-Bell
Davie...How ya' doin'? in 1963, I produced a master with Joey Powers,
"Midnight Mary", which I wrote with Ben Raleigh. My friends, Jerry
Landis [Paul Simon] and Tony Dee, both of whom worked at E.B. Marks
Music suggested that I take it over to Larry Uttal, who recently left
their company to run Amy records.
I'm proud to say that it became the labels first Gold record.
regards, Artie Wayne
http://artiewayne.com/
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 15:27:08 EST
From: Claire Francis
Subject: Re: Claire Francis' Polydor records
Dear Scott,
Thanks so much for all your efforts. You are a gem!
See below for a list of records I would like to hear.
Mick, Martin, and Phil and Ian had been kind enough to send me
the mp3 or downloads (what ever they are called) on some of my
work..... I am so Jurassic!!! I know that when I get them...the
Quick time icon appears on my screen as I down load them. Then,
I send them to my daughter who burns a copy for me, and then I
take them home and play it on my computer so that I can try to
put them in Itunes.
I have an iMacOS X. I am sure there must be a way to get the cd
through to my computer so that as I play it, it jumps into ITunes.
I don't know how, but I know that it can happen because it
happened one time, but I don't know how.
As I was playing the mp3 or download, I noticed it appeared into
Itunes, but I don't know how I made that happen. So, in either
case, anything you send me on the list below would be greatly
appreciated, and, I don't need the original disks, but a scan or
photo of the label would be great so that I can print it and put
in on the c.d. myself. I hope this isn't to confusing to you.
As far as the list of songs from BMI, I just recently finished a
meeting with BMI because I don't know some of the songs they have
in my catalog...Like, I never can even imagine I wrote "You made
a football out of my heart" as well as some of the other songs
listed. But...it's in my catalog.
Thanks for being part of helping me unravel the mystery. And I
hope the S'pop gang helps with sending out any mp3's or scans of
my labels when they can. I know time spent is precious energy and
in New York, time is money....so I will find a way to repay you
all.
Records I would like to hear, and see pictures of the labels:
Mikki Young: The Day He Came My Way/ I Can't Hide My Love
(Polydor 56058, 1965)
John Bull Breed: Can't Chance A Breakup/ I'm A Man
(Polydor BM 56065, 1966)
Lynn Holland: Oh Darling How I Miss You/ Before
(Polydor BM 56035, 1965)
Sonny Childe: "To Be Cont'd" LP
(Polydor 582003, 1966)
Long Live Spectropop and its incredibly generous members.
Love & Light,
Claire Francis
http://www.clairefrancis.com
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 16:40:37 +0000
From: Richard Havers
Subject: A Whiter Shade Of Pale
Does anyone happen to know the precise date that Procol Harum recorded
A Whiter Shade of Pale? I am pretty sure it was early April 1967.
Thanks in anticipation
Richard
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 08:24:26 -0800 (PST)
From: Mike Dugo
Subject: Louisville's Own book
Thanks for the info on the Louisville's Own book, Don. How is
the coverage on the local '60's "garage bands"? Does the book
also cover the obscure bands, or does it concentrate mainly on
the better known acts?
Mike Dugo
60sgaragebands.com
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 21:17:50 -0000
From: John H
Subject: Re: France Gall
I've loved France Gall's 60s stuff for a few years now, but there
seems to have been a period between those and her Michel Berger
stuff that I can't locate anywhere. Among the singles from this time
was "Zoi Zoi," and I've heard such great things about it that I
can't wait to hear it. Is it on any currently-in-print compilations?
-John H
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 19:38:23 -0000
From: Davie Gordon
Subject: Re: Who Killed Teddy Bear . . . and the b-side
Claire Francis wrote:
> Now, my question is...if I wrote the B side of "Who Killed Teddy Bear"
> and if that Teddy Bear record sold anything...am I supposed to get a
> royalty for my song?? I know that sounds like a dumb question, but I
> think maybe Polydor should have paid me for any sales of that record
> because I wrote the B side.
Hi Claire, It wouldn't be Polydor's responsibility to pay you writer
royalties unless they, or one of their associated companies were the
publishers. You could ask the song's publishers but whether or not
they've kept records stretching back nearly four decades is another
thing entirely. Don't book that cruise to the Caribbean just yet :)
A bit more about the "Who Killed Teddy Bear" saga:
According to one of my film reference books the film was released in
the US in October 1965.
The Leslie Uggams version on Atlantic 2313, going by the number, was
issued in December 1965. I'd need the matrix number to estimate the
recording date.
I've just sent off an e-mail to Al Kasha asking him if he can confirm
the identity of the singer of the version used in the film. I'll let
you know if I get a reply.
I don't know this has occurred to you but if that film had been released
a few months later it's quite probable the Mikki Young record wouldn't
have happened at all. At the time (12/65) that Leslie Uggams version was
released Atlantic records were being issued in the UK through Decca.
Atlantic switched their UK licensee rights to Polydor in March '66 so if
the film had been released in '66 Polydor would have been unlikely to
have asked you to produce a local version - it would've been cheaper to
just get the tapes of Leslie Uggams' version from Atlantic.
Could you post the Polydor number for the Mikki Young record - we might
as well try to sort out the chronology completely.
Davie
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 19:15:19 -0000
From: Mike Edwards
Subject: Different British versions
Me:
> the definitive British car song was and is "Beep Beep" by the (New)
> England vocal group, the Playmates on UK Columbia DB 4224 from 1958.
Phil X Milstein:
> I'm a little confused. The British release was of a different version
> than the American one?
Me again:
Hi Phil, from what I recall, they substituted a bubble car for a Nash
Rambler on the UK issue. There were a couple of other interesting
examples of lyrics being changed for UK consumption. Johnny Horton
sang that the British kept-a-comin' on the US issue of "The Battle Of
New Orleans" but "rebels" replaced "British" on the UK 45. Connie
Francis used a spoken intro on her great "I'm Gonna Be Warm This
Winter" (MGM, 1962) and let us know that "we met at a ski lodge and
we fell in love". I guess the suits at EMI figured that we simply
couldn't relate to such a statement and used "we met on a winter's
day…" for the UK 45. Of course today, with the £ being so strong
against the $, I imagine that the ski lodges in Vail will be ringing
with the sounds of those wonderful London accents.
Mike Edwards
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 07:09:17 +1000
From: Lyn Nuttall
Subject: Jacqueline Taieb
I just acquired a gloriously screwy song by Jacqueline Taieb called "7
heures du matin" (1967), a sort of languid French rap over a groovy beat
in which she lapses now and then into snatches of Anglo pop such as
"talking 'bout my g-g-generation" and "wop-bob-a-loo-bop..." My French
isn't up to making much sense of it, apart from the title ("7 o'clock in
the morning"), but I love it. Her page at The Yé Yé Girls website
makes one yearn for more, and apparently she has been anthologised
outside of France. Any other enthusiasts here?
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 09:26:54 -0800 (PST)
From: Artie Wayne
Subject: French covers
Bon Jour, Comme sa va? Speaking of French covers, does anyone have a
copy of "Excuse me Lady" by Joe Dassin, which I wrote?. It got to #3
on the French Charts in 1967. It was a cover of "Excuse me Baby" by
the Magic Lanterns top ten UK hit. Merci.
regards, Artie Wayne
http://artiewayne.com/
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 00:02:27 -0000
From: Shawn Nagy
Subject: Joe Jeffrey Group
I can't find any info on Joe on the net, does anyone know much about
him or have a link for more info? Happy New Year to all.
Shawn
http://www.superoldies.com
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 00:44:58 -0000
From: Marese
Subject: Captain Marvel Jones/Super Dupers/Leon Russell
Hello!
I used to own an original Pickwick 7", something I inherited when I
was about 10. A-side was the Archies "Everything's Archie", B-
side "Captain Marvel Jones" - this was the coolest song I've ever
heard.
I played it about 10 years ago my 21st birhtday, and my vinyl junkie
flatmate slid it into the cover of one of his hundreds of albums to
keep safe. Of course it was promptly lost, and I've been looking for
it ever since.
I've read on this list a post from Peter McDonnell, saying he has an
album including "Captain Marvel Jones". Peter, please could you make
me a copy?? I'm no serious vinyl collector, I just love that song.
SO I'd love to get my hands on it again and if anyone would be so
kind as to send it to me I'd be ever so grateful.
Thanks
Marese
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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 18:06:14 -0500
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Re: France Gall
Frank wrote:
> Dave, if you have any foreign languages France Gall tracks, could
> you either play them at Musica or send them over? I see France
> quite regularly and I'm pretty sure she hasn't got any of these
> tracks and would love to hear them again.
What sort of thing does she do with her life these days?
--Phil M.
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 10:22:45 +0000
From: Simon White
Subject: Charlie Francis
I'm looking for info on an artist named Charlie Francis.
His name appears on a few budget albums, the ones where they split
the album with two artists over two sides with artists like Sam
Cooke, Brook Benton and Chuck Jackson. Charlie is a balladeer in a
Chuck mode often backed by a group and some of his stuff is really
good. There don't seem to be any 45's though which is odd. Anyone
know anything about him?
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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 13:26:56 +1100
From: Bruce Milne
Subject: Free Kitten
Dave Monroe:
> (France Gall's) "Teenie Weenie Boppie" was a while back floorfiller
> here, however, as it had been covered by Cat Power (Sonic Youth's
> Kim Gordon + Pussy Galore's Julia Cafritz).
Kim & Julia's band is Free Kitten.
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Message: 17
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 22:51:29 -0500
From: ACJ
Subject: Re: Dusty B-sides
For Frank: That's for sure! The CD version of Dusty's "Stay Awhile /
I Only Want to Be With You" album includes a bonus track called "Baby
Don't You Know," which (I think) would have been a bigger hit than
its A-side, "In the Middle of Nowhere."
ACJ
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Message: 18
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 19:21:30 -0800
From: Gary Myers
Subject: Re: Louisville's Own book
Don S:
> Louisville's Own was published in 1983 by Brenda and Bill Woods
> ... Not sure if it is still available, but you may find it online
> somewhere.
I was able to get a copy directly from Bill Woods about a year ago.
He said it is out of print, but he still had a few copies at that
time. I think he has an agency or something like that now. Whatever
it was, I did find him online through it.
gem
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Message: 19
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 22:02:46 -0800 (PST)
From: Dave Monroe
Subject: Re: France Gall
Frank wrote:
> Dave, if you have any foreign languages France Gall
> tracks, could you either play them at Musica or send
> them over? I see France quite regularly and I'm
> pretty sure she hasn't got any of these tracks and
> would love to hear them again.
Well, I'm pretty low-tech, I mean, my idea of
downloading music is, I find something online, I send
them some money, electronically or otherwise, and they
send me a (hopefully) shiny black disc ("minirecords,"
as a little rave girl recently called my 45s), but I
can likely get some assistance if need be ....
But I will mention that there's a 20-track CD, France
Gall en Allemand--Die Beste in Deustch (WEA), that has
most everything I can recall being on the handful of
EPs/2 comp LPs I have of her German tracks. It's not
necessarily cheap, especially give recent downturns in
our exchnge rates, but it's readily available, on your
various amazons-dot-com, fr, de, whatever. If all
else fails, I ended up with two copies, although the
vast bulk of my CD collection is in storage (I moved
ca. a year ago, and I DJ all vinyl, so ...) ...
So let me know what you can find. In the meatime, it
strikes me that, while her contemporaries were busy
rerecording English, German, Spanish and Italian
lyrics over their backing tracks (and Sylvie Vartan
had at least one nice 60s single available only in
Japanese), FG only seems to have recorded in French or
German, and, again, i can recall only one crossover
point, and evern there over a new arrangement/
recording. Can anyone confim that for me?
Thanks as always ...
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Message: 20
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 21:06:11 EST
From: Paul Urbahns
Subject: Ghost Riders In The Sky
Actually, (Ghost) Riders In the Sky (remake of a 1949 Vaughn Monroe
number one hit) by the Ramrods entered the Billboard Hot 100 in
January 1961, stayed on the chart for 9 weeks, and peaked at number
30. It's my understanding that Vaughn Monroe's was a Pop version of
a country hit by Bob Atcher who recorded over 100 songs for Columbia
back in the 78 rpm days. If the name is not familiar go to this link:
http://www.ritscyberpals.com/bob_a.html
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Message: 21
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 21:48:19 -0800 (PST)
From: Dave Monroe
Subject: Re: French covers - Jean/John Musy
Moi:
> ... By the way, know anything about John [sic?] Musy?
Frank:
> It's Jean Musy, Dave. He was indeed a very well respected French
> arranger/composer.
Well, when I posted that, I didn't have the record in front of me,
and I recalled a Jean Musy from elsewhere, but it's definitely John
Musy on the sleeve, e.g.:
http://ring.cdandlp.com/sambo/photo_grande/3913995.jpg
Same guy or different? The only hits I get for "John Musy" involve
that 45, so ... so thanks again ...
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Message: 22
Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 06:10:18 -0000
From: Tony Leong
Subject: Re: Dusty B-sides
frank:
> I generally found that Dusty's B sides were almost always great
> tracks worthy of the A side.
Agreed--"Baby Dont you Know", "If It Hadn't Been For You", "I'm Gonna
Leave You", and the EP track "Now That You're My Baby" were much more
profound than their A-sides!!!!Incidentally, those songs are so much
more memorable that it is taking me time to remember what was ON the
A-side!!!!
Tony
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Message: 23
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 23:30:39 -0800 (PST)
From: Dave Monroe
Subject: Re: France Gall
Frank wrote:
> Dave, if you have any foreign languages France Gall
> tracks, could you either play them at Musica or
> send them over? I see France quite regularly and I'm
> pretty sure she hasn't got any of these tracks and
> would love to hear them again.
By the way, there are covers of both "A Banda" (which
I recall best from both Astrud Gilberto and Herb
Alpert recordings) and, apparently, Van Morrison's "I
Shall Sing" (which I don't know, so I didn't
recognize) on that German comp CD, as well as my fave
tracks, so ...
But, man, say "hello" or "bonjour" or "Guten Morgen"
or whatever to her for me if you could, okay? And let
her know that we're still playing tracks like "Laisser
tomber les filles" and "Nefertiti" and "Zoizoi" and
"Merci Herr Marquis" and ... to apprecaitive dancers
here. And ask if she's heard April March's "Chick
Habit," 'cos not only does it actually live up
musically to the original (FG's "LTLF"), but it's a
brilliant translation to an American idiom. "Hang up
your chick habit, hang it up, Daddy-O ..." ...
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Message: 24
Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 22:35:44 -0000
From: Davie Gordon
Subject: Re: Who Killed Teddy Bear
Al Kasha replied to my e-mail - he confirms that the singer of the
title song in the film is .. Leslie Uggams.
I've told Al about Spectropop and invited him to join up - let's keep
our fingers crossed.
Davie
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Message: 25
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 13:06:33 -0000
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Claire Francis and Two's Company
Scott Swanson:
> Since everyone is chiming in with the Claire Francis records
> they've uncovered, I figured (as a public service, so to speak)
> I'd compile a list of them. Here are the ones I know of:
Thanks for taking the time to do that, Scott. Blimey, we'll soon
have enough for a whole CD (...thinks...). Unfortunately, my
efforts to locate a copy of the Sonny Childe LP have been
thwarted at every flippin' turn, so the search for that baby goes
on.
In the meantime, I've posted another of Claire's little symphonies
to musica for all to hear. Just follow this URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/files/musica/
Details are: Two's Company "Now That I Love You" (UK Polydor BM
56072, 1966); written by Tony May (I think); produced by Claire
Francis.
Hope this stirs up some more memories, Claire.
Back to work tomorrow. Bummer.
Hey la,
Mick Patrick
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