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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Spacey-as-Darin (age appropriate?)
From: Phil X Milstein
2. "Midnight Mary"
From: Joe Nelson
3. Louisville Spectropoppers
From: Jaxon Lee Swain
4. Harmonica and Welsh artists
From: Clark Besch
5. Lesley Gore in concert with Seattle Women's Chorus
From: David A Young
6. Claire Francis & Arthur Brown
From: Eddy
7. Don Costa; (Rockin') Ramrods; M/M vs. M/S; Joe Jeffrey Group
From: Country Paul
8. Re: Bang/Shout discog. info
From: Gary Myers
9. Re: Ramrods Rockin'?
From: Austin Roberts
10. Re: Louisville's Own
From: MopTop Mike Markesich
11. Re: Different British versions
From: Clark Besch
12. Bobby Darin / 3000 Miles
From: Mike Griffiths
13. Re: Joe Jeffrey Group
From: Clark Besch
14. Re: The Arkade
From: Michael Thom
15. Re: Joe Jeffrey Group
From: Mike Bennidict
16. Re: Arkade: "Where You Lead" and other leads
From: Austin Roberts
17. Re: Hidden Cameras
From: Mark Wirtz
18. Re: Dusty B-sides
From: Tony
19. Re: La Compagnie
From: Frank
20. Re: different British versions
From: Davie Gordon
21. Re: France Gall
From: Frank
22. The (current) Crystals
From: Andrew C Jones
23. Good Brivations
From: Phil X Milstein
24. cannibal pop
From: Phil X Milstein
25. Re: Royal Guardsmen titles
From: Javed Jafri
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 22:44:16 -0500
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Re: Spacey-as-Darin (age appropriate?)
I noticed that the current issue of AARP* magazine has an article on
Spacey-as-Darin. Although I soon realized it's in response to Darin's
likely popularity among their core readership (of silver-haired golden
agers), at first I thought it was a response to Spacey's age vis-a-vis
Darin's.
--Phil M.
*American Association of Retired Persons
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 11:14:11 -0500
From: Joe Nelson
Subject: "Midnight Mary"
Artie Wayne:
> Davie...How ya' doin'? in 1963, I produced a master with Joey Powers,
> "Midnight Mary", which I wrote with Ben Raleigh. My friends, Jerry
> Landis [Paul Simon] and Tony Dee, both of whom worked at E.B. Marks
> Music suggested that I take it over to Larry Uttal, who recently left
> their company to run Amy records. I'm proud to say that it became the
> label's first Gold record.
Artie, I've been meaning to mention this. A few years ago, what was then
our local oldies station had a night jock who was fond of "Midnight
Mary" and played it every night somewhere during the time I was driving
to the Poughkeepsie train station to deadhead* down to my job. That line
about the railroad job always amused me. From my perspective, the work
is sometimes hard but not always (I'm an electrician on the actual
trains), full of creative people who can always find a way to put the
tools down and make it look like they're working (or better yet, make
it out that the company screwed up and they CAN'T do anything), and...
you get the idea. A foreman once noted to me what while the pay isn't
that great, "nobody else would pay you so much to do so little". The
problem is, once you get enveloped into the system you get so used to
it that you can't work anywhere else. Strange.
Joe Nelson
(*Deadhead - nothing to do with the Grateful Dead, but a railroad term
refering to a railroad employee riding without paying a fare, freight
transported without a fee, cars in a consist not being used for a
revenue purpose or any use of the train which doesn't generate revenue
for the company.)
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 15:54:23 -0500
From: Jaxon Lee Swain
Subject: Louisville Spectropoppers
Hello, I am starting a somewhat Spectropop-inspired band here and
am searching for members. Write back for information if interested.
Thank you and Happy New Year
Jaxon
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 21:20:02 -0000
From: Clark Besch
Subject: Harmonica and Welsh artists
Hi all, hope you had a great holiday week as I prepare for 10 inches
of snow Wednesday! Thanks again to all you who helped me out with my
harmonica songs and Welsh artist lists. Not sure if my girlfriemd's
nephew will listen to them, but at least I tried (and had fun, of
course). Here's basically the list I and you compiled for these two
"genres" of music. I know you can all add more, but PLEASE DON'T. :-)
Here's what I chose from:
HARMONICA SONGS:
Spongetones: "Cool Hearted Girl"
DC5: "Catch Us if You Can"/""Over & Over"/"Satisfied with You"
Billy Joel: Piano Man
John Barry: Midnight Cowboy
Crosby/Young: Southbound Train
Beatles: I Should Have Known Better; Love Me Do; Little Child, Please
Please me, There's a Place
Millie Small: My Boy Lollipop
Marmalade: Rainbow
Nino & April: Deep Purple
Stevie Wonder: Fingertips; For Once In My Life, Workout Stevie
Workout, I Was Made to Love Her
Nitty Gritty DB: Mr. Bojangles
Jan & Dean: I Found A Girl
Roy Orbison: Candy Man
New Colony 6: At the River's Edge
Chipmunks: Alvin's Harmonica
Billy Joel: Piano Man, Leave A Tender Moment Alone
Lovin Spoonful: Amy, Night Owl Blues
Bruce Channel: Hey baby
Slim Harpo: Baby Scratch My Back
Henry mancini: Moon River
Hollies: He Aint Heavy He's my brother, I've Got a Way of my Own
Adam Faith: It's Alright
BarKays: Knucklehead (flip of Soul Finger")
Christopher Monte: Giants of Bombora
High Numbers: I'm the face
Rolling Stones: 2120 South Michigan Ave, Good Times Bad Times, Hi
Heel Sneakers, Little red Rooster
Neil Young: Heart of Gold, Long May You Run
Donovan: Hey Gyp, The War Drags on, Colours
Yardbirds: I'm a Man, I Wish You Would
Chairman of the Board: Chairman of the board
Barry McGuire: Eve of Destruction
Bob Dylan: Just Like a Woman, Like a Rolling Stone, Times They are a
Changin, Rainy Day Women #12 & 35, I Want You
Van Morrison: Tupelo Honey
Doors: Roadhouse Blues
J Geils band: Whammer jammer
Doobie Brothers: Long Train Running
Cream: Train Time
Johnathan Edwards: Shanty
BS&T: And When I Die
Ennio Morricone: Man with a harmonica (from Once Upon a Time in the
West), Hang 'em High
Love: A Message to Pretty (flip of My Little Red Book)
Byrds: Cowgirl in the Sand,
Johnny Rivers: Mountain of Love, Help me Rhonda
Neil Diamond: You Got to me
Steve Miller band: Living in the USA, Going to the Country
Tom Petty: Mary Jane's last Dance
Who: Join Together
Beau Brummels: Laugh Laugh
Canned Heat: On the Road Again
Count 5: Psychotic Reaction
Frank Ifield: I Remember You
Gail Garnett: We'll Sing in the Sunshine
Hugo Montenegro-Good, Bad Ugly
Irish Rovers-Unicorn
PF Sloan-Sins of a Family, Take me For What I'm Worth
Sonny & Cher: Baby Don't Go
Tony Joe White: Polk Salad Annie
Ozark Mtn Daredevils: If You Wanna Get to Heaven
Huey Lewis & News: Workin For a Livin, Heart of Rock n Roll
Barbarians - Moulty
Ann-Margret - I Just Don't Understand
Johnny Cash - Orange Blossom Special
Little Walter - Juke (hope I remember the name correctly)
George Harrison's "Apple Scruffs
WELSH ARTISTS:
Tom Jones
Shirley Bassey
Alarm
Amen Corner
Badfinger
Mary Hopkin
Iveys
Rockpile
Shakin Stevens
Bonnie Tyler
Dave Edmunds
Manic Street Preachers
Stereophonics
Feeder
Harry Secombe
Lostprophets
Catatonia
Charlotte Church
Super Furry Animals
Gorki's Zygotic Mynci
Helen Love
Ectogram
Melys
Young Marble Giants [R.I.P.]
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 06:55:52 -0000
From: David A Young
Subject: Lesley Gore in concert with Seattle Women's Chorus
I'm very excited, ladies and gentlemen.
When I learned last June that Seattle Women's Chorus's April 2005
concert would be a girl-group program featuring guest artist Lesley
Gore, I wrote director Dennis Coleman to ask whether I could provide
some suggestions for repertoire. I wouldn't bother with the hits, I
assured him; Motown and dance-craze medleys were foregone
conclusions, and the genre spawned enough smashes for me to trust
him to sort through familiar material.
Keeping in mind both the high value of the camp factor (it's a
predominantly lesbian ensemble) and the fact that nominated songs
would need to lend themselves well to choral arrangements, I
prepared a couple of CDs' worth of obscurities. Dennis thanked me
soon thereafter and told me he'd definitely be using some of the
material I proposed, and that was the last I heard from him.
Last night, the chorus (a highly professional group of about 150
women) had their first rehearsal for the show. A friend who's a
member knew about my involvement and brought me the sheet music
they'd been given thus far. To my delight, the program includes
plenty of gems generally known only to Spectropop types, and all
songs sport exclusively commissioned settings by respected arranger
David Maddux (who just happens to live across the street from me).
Here's what's been sight-read so far, with more to come (titles
followed by original artist name):
1) Medley - Girls Should Always Look Their Best (Patty Lace and the
Petticoats)/Shoop Shoop De Doop Rama Lama Ding Dong Yeah Yeah Yeah
(The Clinger Sisters)/Wonderful Summer (Robin Ward)/Girlfriends for
Life (Darlene Love)
2) Medley - (Love Is Like a) Heat Wave (Martha and the
Vandellas)/Please Mr. Postman (The Marvelettes)/Baby Love (The
Supremes)/Dancing in the Streets (Martha and the Vandellas)
3) Medley - Tonight You Belong to Me (based on The Honeys' version
per my suggestion)/I Love How You Love Me (The Paris Sisters)
4) Sixteen Reasons (Connie Stevens)
5) Medley - Johnny Angel (Shelly Fabares)/Johnny Get Angry (Joanie
Sommers)/Johnny Are You Queer? (Josie Cotton)/The Kind of Boy You
Can't Forget (The Raindrops)
6) The Shoop Shoop Song (It's In His Kiss) (Betty Everett)
7) Popsicles and Icicles (The Murmaids)
8) Medley - Mashed Potato Time (Dee Dee Sharp)/The Twist (Chubby
Checker)/The Wah-Watusi (The Orlons)/Party Time (Chubby
Checker)/Hanky Panky (don't know whether they're using Tommy James
et al or The Raindrops as inspiration here)/The Loco-Motion (Little
Eva)/Land of 1,000 Dances (Cannibal and the Headhunters)
9) Medley - I Wish You Were a Girl (Cathy Carroll)/Girls Grow Up
Faster than Boys (The Cookies)/Sometimes I Wish I Were a Boy (Lesley
Gore)/I'd Much Rather Be with the Girls (Donna Lynn)
That's all that's confirmed at this point, but it's off to a more-
than-promising start, especially given that one can count on over-
the-top sets, props, choreography, and costumes at the Chorus's
shows. It goes without saying that Lesley will do a hit or three,
but I strongly advised them to ask her to include her song "My
Secret Love" (from the "Grace of My Heart" soundtrack) in her set.
I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that this'll be a once-in-
a-lifetime event, and I'm delighted to know so much about it so far
in advance that you can plan a Seattle vacation around the concert
if you're not from this part of the world. Shows are Saturday, April
16 at 8:00 p.m. and Sunday, April 17 at 2:00 p.m.; tickets are
available at http://seattlemenschorus.com/swc.html
If you don't live around here and do decide to make the pilgrimage,
please let me know ahead of time; I'd love to meet those of you I
haven't and see those I have.
Counting the days,
David A. Young
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 11:58:52 +0100
From: Eddy
Subject: Claire Francis & Arthur Brown
Claire,
After some serious brain picking, here's what Arthur Brown
himself came up with...
> We did a version of "Mr.Pitiful". I think we did a version of
> a track written by, I think, myself and Paul Leggeter titled
> "The Urge". I believe also we did "Turn On Your Love-Light"
> by Bobby Bland. "Maybe". "Treat Her Right", the Roy Head tune.
> "Midnight Hour". Probably the instrumental "Twine Time".
> "Help Me" (Sonny Boy Williamson).
> I have no memory of doing one of Claire's tunes. I do have
> a memory that she was very encouraging and helpful to us.
Eddy
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 23:26:28 -0500
From: Country Paul
Subject: Don Costa; (Rockin') Ramrods; M/M vs. M/S; Joe Jeffrey Group
Richard Havers:
> Playing guitar on the [Vaughan] Monroe version [of "Ghost Riders"]
> was 24 year old Don Costa. He had started out playing guitar on
> a Boston radio station before moving to New York City....[He] had
> some hits of his own before working with Frank Sinatra in the 60s
> until he died in 1983. Along the way he also co-wrote Duane Eddy's
> 'Because They're Young'.
Thanks, Richard; where else but S'pop would I ever find out stuff like
this?! My favorite Costa track is "The Theme From 'The Misfits,'" featuring
one wailin' sax player who got off one of the great sax riffs of all time
toward the end of the record. Anyone know who that might have been?
Paul Urbahns wrote:
> Actually, (Ghost) Riders In the Sky (remake of a 1949 Vaughn
> Monroe number one hit) by the Ramrods entered the Billboard
> Hot 100 in January 1961 ...
Phil M:
> So that would be a different Ramrods than the Rockin' Ramrods,
> the Boston group of the middle '60s? Being familiar with
> "'Ghost Riders' by the Ramrods" only from afar (i.e. listings,
> rather than listenings), I'd always figured it was the same
> group, or at least an early (pre-Rockin') version of them.
>From the websites I checked out earlier, they were totally different groups.
But was the Boston-based group the same group who had the hit "Wild
Weekend"? This was the theme of the Tom Shannon Show on nationally-famous
WKBW, Buffalo (sing along with the instrumental: "Tom-my Shannon Show, K-B
radio"), originally released on Buffalo-based Shan-Todd Records (guess who
owned it) and leased to Swan.
With all the discussion of France lately, and the many new members since
last I mentioned this, may I recommend an exceptional album, "Post-Partum,"
by Les Innocents (NOT the Kathy Young And... group) which sounds remarkably
Beatle-influenced, although it came out in 1995 on Virgin France. It's what
I'd imagine the Beatles doing today if the group still existed - and sang in
French. They have four (I think) other CDs, but none compare to this one in
my opinion. It's hard to find in the US, but can be ordered from various
French sources.
Phil M.:
> I found a record this weekend that was a "double mono," i.e. the same
> track on both sides, the same length, etc., and both sides in mono.
> I've seen plenty of S/M and double stereos, but can't recall any other
> double monos. Was that configuration more common than I realize?
Not uncommon in the early and middle 60s, as radio became more formularized
and record companies wanted to be sure that only the A-side got considered.
The mono-stereo pressings really began with the acceptance of the increased
influence of rock on FM in the last third of the 60s, and got stronger when
Top 40 made its way onto FM, an act considered heresy by progressive types,
who had previously ruled the roost rock-wise (sharing space with classical
and "elevator music" stations).
Mike Bennedict, the Joe Jeffrey Group was on Wand; "My Pledge Of Love" (Wand
11200, released July 1969 b/w "Margie") was a national hit, also another
large hit in Buffalo thanks to WKBW, where I heard it first. For some reason
I associate the group with being from the Buffalo area, but this is based on
hazy memory, not recently researched fact. The following comes from
http://www.allbutforgottenoldies.net/joe-jeffrey-group.html :
> R&B singer best known for the upbeat and catchy "My Pledge Of
> Love" (1969). Also released a number of minor hits including
> "Dreamin' Till Then" [Wand 11207, 1969, b/w "The Train"], "Hey
> Hey Woman" [Wand 11213, 1969, b/w "The Chance of Loving You"],
> and "My Baby Loves Lovin'" Wand 11219, 1970, also b/w "The
> Chance of Loving You"].
There was apparently one additional single release on Wand: 11235 - "A
Hundred Pounds Of Clay" b/w "Power Of Love." There was also a Wand album,
cited in http://www.bsnpubs.com/scepter/wand.html: "WDS-686 - My Pledge of
Love - Joe Jeffery [1969] Although the album is credited to "Joe Jeffrey,"
the song "My Pledge of Love" was issued on 45 crediting the "Joe Jeffrey
Group." Dreamin' Till Then (S)/Kind Of A Drag (S)/Melodee (S)/Margie (S)/My
Pledge Of Love (S)//Sunny-Up Up And Away (S)/In The Still Of The Night [Cole
Porter] (S)/It's All Right (S)/The Chance Of Loving You (S)/Hey Hey Woman
(S)" ("S" indicates stereo). There's a thumbnail reproduction of the cover
next to this listing, but the illustration is only a black-and-white
drawing.
Additional notes on the hit: "My Pledge of Love" appears to be credited to
the entire group. It was also redone by Jane Krakowski in season two of the
TV series "Ally McBeal."
And then I gave up.
Country Paul
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 21:07:27 -0800
From: Gary Myers
Subject: Re: Bang/Shout discog. info
Niels Junker-Poulsen:
> I primarily need Shout 241 and 256 plus Bang 507, 513, 548, 560, 564,
> 565, 567, 572, 573 ...
573 is "You Can All Join In" (Traffic cover)/"Soft" by Bare Fat, from
Waupun, WI (covered in my WI book).
Gary Myers / MusicGem
http://home.earthlink.net/~gem777/
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 00:44:12 -0500
From: Austin Roberts
Subject: Re: Ramrods Rockin'?
I may be way off base, but if this was the same Ramrods that was
playing in a club called the Cavern (I think) in New York around
1961 or 1962, then on a dare I went up and sang Runaway with them.
I was a kid so I don't remember much about it.
Austin R.
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 03:28:26 -0000
From: MopTop Mike Markesich
Subject: Re: Louisville's Own
I wrote:
> Louisville's Own was published in 1983 by Brenda and Bill Woods
> ... Not sure if it is still available, but you may find it online
> somewhere.
Don Syzmansky:
> Most of the bands were relatively well known locally, played the
> school sock hops and such. Everyone in the book had at least one
> record for local play. Others were regional or of limited national
> appeal. That was one of the more interesting aspects of the time.
> Almost every band was able to record, and there were enough local
> labels to get pressed and to radio stations. Surprisingly, most got
> airplay, on a rate-the-record type format a couple evenings a week.
> It was a great time for lots of aspiring players.
Well Don! I own all three Mersey Beats USA singles! All are faves
and get regular spins on my hifi. I have a strong affinity for the
tuff-sounding "Nobody Loves Me That Way", found initially on the
flipside of the brilliant waltz-tempo ballad "You"ll Come Back".
The second 45 was the tuffest to find, "Stop Look and Listen".
Would you remember the Scavengers, who also had a record on the Top
Dog label in 1966?
I have seen the book you mention but do not own a copy. There was a
local Louisville record collector who works for the school system,
Leonard Yates (?) He was a guest on Joe Donovan's 84/WHAS oldies
overnight show (much missed by yours truly) and he spun lots of local
KY/southern IN 45's.
'MopTop' Mike Markesich
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 06:25:11 -0000
From: Clark Besch
Subject: Re: Different British versions
Austin Powell wrote:
> A "British" version was recorded as the BBC objected to the use of
> the name Nash Rambler in case it was construed as advertising!!
> Roulette's UK licensee asked for the new version which The Playmates
> duly recorded.... It happened again with the Kinks "Lola" - the words
> Coca-Cola were substituted by "Cherry Cola".
And it 'appened agin with Jimmy Buffet's "Come Monday" changing "I got
my Hush Puppies on" to "I got my hiking boots on"!
Clark
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 06:32:44 -0000
From: Mike Griffiths
Subject: Bobby Darin / 3000 Miles
Artie Wayne wrote:
> Everytime I'd see him, the first thing he wanted to know was how I
> was getting along after being one of the first people in the U.S.
> to have open heart surgery in 1965. I remember the hours I'd spend
> telling him how well I was doing and how he shouldn't be afraid to
> have a similar operation. Unfortunately, he waited too long.
Hi Artie,
So if Bobby Darin had gone ahead with the open heart surgery he may
have lived a normal healthy and love life? I thought he had other
problems or were they all stemming from his heart condition?
By the way, I'm also a big fan of your song 3000 Miles. I'm just
wondering, did anybody else record it besides Brian Hyland? Is there
an original demo of the song?
Cheers,
Mike
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 07:45:49 -0000
From: Clark Besch
Subject: Re: Joe Jeffrey Group
Lyn Nuttall wrote:
> Bomp List has a post by Mike Markesich from July 1999:
> Joe Jeffrey was indeed a Cleveland, Ohio native (real name
> Joseph Stafford, Jr.) The song was co-written by another
> Clevelander, Al Russ, > but you won't see his name on the
> 45 ...Not sure where the songs were cut ..."
> http://bomplist.xnet2.com/9907/msg01591.html
The above listing is by our own MopTop Mike -- maybe he can tell us
more.
This seems a great time to praise my buddy Mike Callahan's Both Sides
Now stereo site. Many people don't realize what great discographies can
be found there besides stereo chatting! http://www.bsnpubs.com/
I know The Joe Jeffrey Group had at least three singles, because I'm
lookin' at 'em. The third is of interest to me because it is the US release
of "My Baby Loves Lovin'." In April, 1970, I heard the Joe Jeffrey version
on "Rate-A-Record" on American Bandstand, and thought it a cool 45.
I began watching for it on charts and stores, but soon heard the White
Plains' version, which of course skyrocketed to the top. I long maintained
that the version I had heard first was better (though going only on memory).
When I finally got a copy, I had heard the White Plains version so much I
liked it much better. Soon thereafter, they too would be guests on
Bandstand performing the song!
Anyway, here's my disc info:
Wand 11200: My Pledge Of Love/Margie (both produced by Jerry Meyers
& Alan Klein)
Wand 11207: Dreamin' Till Then (shown produced by Chips Moman, Jerry
Meyers & Alan Klein, and recorded at American Sound Studios in Memphis)/
The Train (shown produced by Jerry Meyers & Alan Klein, and recorded at
Audio Recording in Cleveland)
My Baby Loves Lovin'/The Chance of Lovin' You (both produced by Jerry
Meyers & Alan Klein and recorded at Audio Recording in Cleveland)
I hope this helps. I'd like to post some of these songs for you to musica,
but it won't let me post anymore for some reason. Anyone know why?
Clark
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 17:29:23 -0600
From: Michael Thom
Subject: Re: The Arkade
Steve Fuji wrote:
> I just listened to the recording of "Where You Lead" by Arkade
> that is playing in musica. Thanks to whoever posted it, because
> I was not aware of that record. How many Arkade records were
> released? There are no listings in any of the discographies that I
> have. I bought "Sing Out The Love" and "Morning Of Our Lives"
> when they first came out and have always enjoyed them, and this
> cover of "Where You Lead" is really nice. I'm aware that this was
> a studio group, but were there ever any group photographs taken?
I posted that song, and also sent it to Austin R. offlist. There is a picture of
the group on the promotional picture sleeve for "The Morning Of Our Lives,"
which I'll scan and post at some point.
Here is the complete Arkade discography. All stock copies are mono.
Dunhill 4235: Woman In My Life / Rhythm Of The People
Dunhill 4247: Sing Out The Love (In My Heart) / Susan
Dunhill 4268: The Morning Of Our Lives / Rhythm Of The People
Dunhill 4277: Where You Lead / Sentimental Lisa
Dunhill 4286: Fool's Way Of Lovin' / The Morning Of Our Lives
Promos of 4268, 4277 and 4286 are stereo/mono A-sides, and are the only
releases of those songs in stereo. I'll post the stereo "Fool's Way Of Lovin'"
when I delete "Where You Lead."
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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 01:11:44 -0000
From: Mike Bennidict
Subject: Re: Joe Jeffrey Group
Lyn Nuttall wrote:
> Bomp List has a post by Mike Markesich from July 1999:
> Joe Jeffrey was indeed a Cleveland, Ohio native (real name
> Joseph Stafford, Jr.) The song was co-written by another
> Clevelander, Al Russ, > but you won't see his name on the
> 45 ...Not sure where the songs were cut ..."
> http://bomplist.xnet2.com/9907/msg01591.html
I know they were from Cleveland, Ohio, though I don't know if they
recorded there or not. I know in the '60s many of the Chicago groups
whether or not they recorded for the big east or west coast labels did
a lot of their recording in Chicago i believe.
Mike
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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 21:08:40 -0500
From: Austin Roberts
Subject: Re: Arkade: "Where You Lead" and other leads
The only three Arkade singles that I sang lead on were "Sing Out The Love,"
(my favorite), "The Morning Of Our Lives" (which had a long lifespan because
of the Bridal Fair tie-in -- it went Top 15 on the Adult Contemporary charts),
and "Where You Lead." We cut another side that I sang lead on called "Love
Is Such A Beautiful Day," that had a similar feel to "Sing Out The Love" and
should have been released as a single.
Best,
AR
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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 18:10:15 -0800 (PST)
From: Mark Wirtz
Subject: Re: Hidden Cameras
Christian Steiner wrote:
> I own the new Hidden Cameras' LP and I love it. For me
> it sounds like a mixture of mid-eighties NZ-Pop (Chills,
> Clean etc.) and a more poppier Polyphonic Spree. Very
> melancholic, even the uptempo songs.
Cool! I can't wait to hear it. I heard the first two CDs and thought they were
darn terrific. The new one is supposed to be ultra-Spector.
Interesting thing about the band is that they promote themselves as a
(Canadian) gay Christian band. At first that annoyed me -- I couldn't care less
about who they sleep with, nor who they pray to, but the fact that they turned it
into such a promo/marketing banner seemed like a tacky sell-out to me. And
then I listened to their lyrics, which are hilarious in parts and very, very, clever,
and it all made sense. They're not selling out, they simply, sincerely and creatively
sing reports of their life experience in defiance of convention. That's Rock'n'Roll!
I agree with your genre placement for the band. They're obviously influenced by
'60s music and beyond (what's wrong with that?), but to me they are very much a
"now" group. I foresee a major future for them.
Glad you posted your comments, Christian. Thanx!
Best,
Mark W.
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Message: 18
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 02:21:59 -0000
From: Tony
Subject: Re: Dusty B-sides
Frank asked:
> Wasn't "Summer Is Over" a B side too?
Yes Frank, "Summer Is Over" was a Dusty B-side in the UK, but despite
its length it still was a memorable song. But then, so was "I Wish I Never
Loved You" -- the list of great B-sides of artists discussed on this site is
ENDLESS! Come to think of it, I'm sure we could have another great
B-sides or LP cuts chat on a Motown site, as well!
Tony
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Message: 19
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 07:39:26 +0100
From: Frank
Subject: Re: La Compagnie
Cedric asked:
> Wasn't "La Compagnie" Michel Colombier's own label?
No, it was owned by a film producer named Norbert Saada. I don't remember
precisely, but Michel Colombier may have had some records on the label.
Frank
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Message: 20
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 02:56:34 -0000
From: Davie Gordon
Subject: Re: different British versions
Mitchell asked:
> The line:
> "And when you're stealing clothes from Marks & Sparks"
> had to be changed to:
> "And when you're stealing clothes from unmarked cars"
> Is the law that forced these changes still in effect in the UK?
> Just wondering. Thanks from a long time lurker,
I don't think it's a law as such, but merely avoiding the possibility of a civil
law case being brought for copyright infringement (or something on those
lines) by the likes of Marks and Spencers.
I wouldn't think it's a criminal offence as such -- hence no actual law.
Davie
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Message: 21
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 07:43:52 +0100
From: Frank
Subject: Re: France Gall
Dave Monroe wrote:
> "Frankenstein" is, as far as I know, the only F. Gall track I can use
> left for me to get. I've only ever seen jukebox 45s of it go on sale,
> however, and I've never quite had the combination of nerve and cash
> necessary to score one on the sporadic occasions that I've seen it
> offered. Indeed, I don't even have it on CD. I'm not sure that it's
> availble on CD. If not, I'd appreciate somebody posting it to musica.
This is one of the few tracks she recorded for EMI before moving to Warners.
It has not been re-released since. I have it and can try to play it to musica,
but, judging by my previous tentative musica posting, cannot guarantee
the result.
Frank
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Message: 22
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 13:09:10 -0500
From: Andrew C Jones
Subject: The (current) Crystals
The day after Christmas, at a local thrift store, I bought -- for $2.99 -- a new
British-made CD called "Da Do Ron Ron," by The Crystals (Westminster
WES4063, copyright 2002). Now, I knew in advance that this probably
wouldn't be the real thing, as the ladies on the cover looked to be in their
late twenties. Also, many of the tracks weren't ever recorded by the real
Crystals -- two were even "club mixes"! Still, I decided to check the CD out --
hey, it was only $2.99.
Though backed up by a four- or five-piece band, with keyboads subbing for
the horns and strings, the girls themselves weren't bad at all. Which leads
to my question: does anyone know anything about this Crystals group?
Are they still performing? (The CD looks like one that would be sold at
performances or on a group's website.)
This may be answered of-list, if desired.
Thanks!
ACJ
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Message: 23
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 11:53:26 -0800
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Good Brivations
Anybody else catch Brian Wilson and band on the Tonight Show Wednesday
night? They did a real nice version of "Good Vibrations." Also, in his
introduction, Leno mentioned that "Smile" (or, if you prefer, "SMiLE") was
nominated for three Grammys, including best pop vocal album. The whole
Smile Redux experience has got to be some sort of sweet vindication for
dear Brian.
--Phil M.
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Message: 24
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 11:44:52 -0800
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: cannibal pop
In reference to our discussion of about a year ago about The Buoys' and
Rupert Holmes's "Timothy," I recently found this footnoted item in a book
by the great mathematician/debunker Martin Gardner:
"'The Yarn Of The Nancy Bell,' the best-known of W.S. Gilbert's comic
ballads, is an account of cannibalism forced by a shipwreck. The yarn is
told by the sole survivor, who ate nine of his shipmates."
So there ya go -- "Timothy" was TAME compared to "... The Nancy Bell"!
Those interested in learning more about this are advised to try Googling
up the song's title, which brings up a multitude of hits, dominated, of
course, by those strange lyric transciption sites.
Hungrily,
--Phil M.
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Message: 25
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 09:31:40 -0800
From: Javed Jafri
Subject: Re: Royal Guardsmen titles
Jeff Lemlich wrote:
> I can think of a record that had different lyrics (and a different title)
> for the Canadian market: "Squeaky Vs. The Black Knight" by the
> Royal Guardsmen. Blimey!
Different from what and why, Jeff?
"Snoopy Vs. The Red Baron" was a big hit in Canada, at least Top 3. We
also got "Snoopy for President" and "Snoopy's Christmas." Plus, "Baby
Let's Wait" charted here when it was rereleased, as did "The Airplane
Song."
Javed
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