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There are 11 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Doo-Wop Help Required
From: Mick Patrick
2. Solomon King, R.I.P.
From: Eddy
3. Re: Toni Fisher
From: Bob Rashkow
4. Help with a Chicago-area song
From: Nick Archer
5. Louise Forestier and Beau Dommage; "Whiter Shade"; Holly and Valens movies; Amburn's Orbison
From: Country Paul
6. The mysterious " Lavander Girl".
From: Julio Niño
7. Re: answering the answers
From: Karl Ikola
8. Beatles on Vee Jay
From: Barry Margolis
9. Re: Goldie & the Gingerbreads
From: Tony Leong
10. Re: Toni Fisher
From: Lyn Nuttall
11. Re: Holly and Valens movies
From: Phil X Milstein
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 18:03:11 -0000
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Doo-Wop Help Required
Any doo-wop collectors out there? Hope so, 'cos I could do
with some expert assistance. I badly need to hear some tracks.
There are hundreds of doo-wop compilation CDs in the world.
Tell me please, are any of the following tracks available
therein. Better still, does anyone have any of the original
45s:
The Markeys – Yakkaty Yak (RCA 47-7256) 1958
The Markeys – Make A Record Man (sic) (RCA 47-7412) 1958
The Markeys – Time To Love (RCA 47-7412) 1958
The Lonely Ones – I Want My Girl (Sir 270) 1959
Sal Mure – Desire (United Artists 153) 1958
Sal Mure – Morse Code (United Artists 153) 1958
Thanks in advance.
Hey la,
Mick Patrick
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 08:59:16 +0100
From: Eddy
Subject: Solomon King, R.I.P.
Born Allen Levy, Solomon King died of cancer in Oklahoma at the age
of 73. He was the first white singer to tour with Billie Holiday and
was a member of the Jordanaires and as such backed Elvis Presley. But
he may be best known for the records he made under his own name,
which included the hit She Wears My Ring, a top 5 hit in 1967.
Eddy
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:58:34 EST
From: Bob Rashkow
Subject: Re: Toni Fisher
My cousin used to have a 45 of "West of the Wall", Toni's only other
Top 40, but I never did remember hearing the B-side "What Did I Do".
I suspect this might be the same tune done by The Essex (b/w Curfew
Lover, 1964, Roulette)--yea? Nay?
Bobster
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 09:02:39 -0600
From: Nick Archer
Subject: Help with a Chicago-area song
I was speaking with a friend who grew up in Chicago, and he mentioned
his all time favorite song which was, in his words, "called "Sandy",
and it was by this group before they became the American Breed".
Does anyone know this song, or better yet, can it be played to musica?
Nick Archer
Check out Nashville's classic pop and soft rock radio station SM95, now
streaming at http://www.live365.com/stations/nikarcher
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:17:48 -0500
From: Country Paul
Subject: Louise Forestier and Beau Dommage; "Whiter Shade"; Holly and Valens movies; Amburn's Orbison
I hope folks are enjoying "Pierrot les cheveux" playing on musica. I
just received two more French Canadian CD reissues, Louise Forestier,
"La Prison de Londres" (title track is exceptional, and the rest is
pretty impressive - more folk-progressive than pop); and Beay Dommage's
first album (heard about half so far - very pleasant acoustic pop/folk/
rock). I'm still keeping an eye out for Le Coeur d'une Generation's
album, from which "Pierrot" comes. Special thanks to Denis Gagnon for
the extraordinary guided tour into this music.
Back to playing catch-up - from posts of the past week:
Frank Murphy, Subject: "Whiter Shade Of Pale"
> At the time several critics felt it had been influenced by Jacques
> Louissier and his Play Bach albums, but I gather the band were
> listening to Percy Sledge more than Johann Sebastian.
Perhaps in that Loussier took Bach toward jazz and Procol Harum took
him toward rock. Beyond that I hear no similarities.
Dave O'Gara:
> ...[A]nybody like Billy Stewart's version of Secret Love?
Not really; I found the vocal acrobatics admirable but not enjoyable.
Re: The Buddy Holly Story (movie), I don't think it's as bad as Joe
Nelson does, but it sadly missed being great by a bunch. Nonetheless,
there was a lot of the feeling of the time, as I remember (I saw it a
long time ago). And I remember Charles Martin-Smith being in it; if I
recall, I thought he was pretty good. By the way, what do folks feel
about La Bamba, the Ritchie Valens movie starring Lou Diamond Phillips?
S. J. Dibai, re: Roy Orbison bios:
> ..."Dark Star: The Roy Orbison Story" by Ellis Amburn was pretty
> good.
I read that also, and also a while back. Amburn did at least one or
two other bios, and I remember him getting pretty well slammed for
them. But I also remember thinking that he did a good job with The Big
O. I haven't encountered the Clayson volume, but perhaps the verbiage
encumbering this sentence might reflect S. J.'s opinion of it!
Country Paul
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:11:58 -0000
From: Julio Niño
Subject: The mysterious " Lavander Girl".
Hola Everybody.
I've been listening to the fascinating "Lavander Girl" by Patty
Michaels, currently in musica, (thanks to Martin Roberts for
providing it). Maybe it's because I can't understand half of the
lyrics but I find it rather mysterious. I don't know why I perceive
some lesbian nuances in the song. Perhaps I'm hallucinating, or
maybe my fantasies are dominating me. Anyway I think the track is
wonderful. I'm going to listen to it again, and try to decipher the
lyrics, (considering my English capacities I'd better get a crystal
ball).
Chao.
Julio Niño.
PS: The first notes remind me of "I can't help it if I'm still in
love with you...").
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 12:06:04 -0800
From: Karl Ikola
Subject: Re: answering the answers
Phil X Milstein wrote:
> I've been wondering lately why some records seem to generate a
> certain kind of excited attention, demonstrated by such things as
> answer records, parodies, quickie knockoffs and other artifacts of
> "buzz," while other records may be every bit as popular, yet fail
> to inspire such a response...
Individual artistic inspiration can't be discounted. Some songs (I
imagine) simply hit the right person at the right time, inspiring an
"answer". That the (commonly, as in "non-answer" cases) one way street
of compose, record, play and sell record (and sheet music in the olden
days) spins off into sequel of same via the answer record simply
recouples the progeny directly with its own precursor. A kind of battle
between parent and child. A camouflaged clone if you will. The
Spokesmen's "The Dawn Of Correction" really was a right wing,
non-ironic response to "Eve Of Destruction", but it's hard not to hear
it as ironic today. And this answer song probably speaks more to an
"inspiration" by Barry McGuire's over-the-top hit record than the
understated (yet seething) P.F. Sloan original, sorry to say. Others,
like Bob Seger's "The Yellow Beret" answer "The Green Beret" as more of
a stag party stakes raising, as it's not morally opposed to the
original's message, just aiming to mutate the imagery a bit for yuks
and potentially easy money. KI
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:04:40 -0600
From: Barry Margolis
Subject: Beatles on Vee Jay
Even though Vee Jay was, by 1964, a very screwed up company, no one
can fault them for their various Beatles reissues. They were in a
financial pickle, and with all of the lawsuits against them by both
Capitol and Bob Crewe, After issuing two bomb Beatles singles, in
1963, when "I Want To Hold Your Hand" broke so big in January, 1964,
it made perfect sense for VJ to 'reservice' their poor selling album
by removing the two tracks "Love Me Do" and "P.S. I Love You", which
Capitol's publishing wing was all up in arm about and to reissue the
album. The singles they put out in 1964 all sold bloody well. When
"I Remember You" was a hit by Ifield....on Vee Jay, they didn't have
enough Ifield tracks to issue an album, so they did it with additional
Beatles tracks.
The Beatles vs. The Four Seasons and the subsequent "Songs, Hits &
Pictures" repackaging was bit out of left field, but, remember the
pressure Vee Jay was under.
Of course, all of this finally settled when Capitol bought all 14
Beatles and issued "The Early Beatles".
So, in my view (and I was there at the time), Vee Jay was by no means
'the bad guys' as far as their exploiting the Beatles tracks in their
possession.
Barry in Minneapolis
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 03:58:37 -0000
From: Tony Leong
Subject: Re: Goldie & the Gingerbreads
Tim Rolls:
> Does anyone know whether Goldie & The Gingerbreads ever made an
> album, or whether a compilation was ever made (LP or, preferably,
> CD). If so, does anyone have any details?
Tim: Though Goldie and the Gingerbreads recorded lots of sides for
Scepter and Atlantic affiliates in the mid-60's, they never had an LP
out in the US or UK. Currently, there is no Gingerbreads compilation
available (nobody ever got one together). Their cuts appear on some
Uk Cd's though. Recently, I gave on of those CD's to Genya and Margo
and they hadn't heard some of those tracks since the '60's when they
recorded them!!!!!!
Tony
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:05:18 +1000
From: Lyn Nuttall
Subject: Re: Toni Fisher
Peter Lerner wrote:
> West Of The Wall (same melody as Toot Toot)/What Did I Do 1962
Australians loved 'West Of The Wall'. Gavin Ryan's Aussie chart books
have it at #1 in Melbourne & Adelaide, #2 in Sydney & Brisbane. What
intrigues me is 'Toot Toot' which on the face of it sounds miles away
from the Berlin Wall.
Lyn
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 13:13:37 -0500
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Re: Holly and Valens movies
Country Paul wrote:
> By the way, what do folks feel about La Bamba, the Ritchie
> Valens movie starring Lou Diamond Phillips?
I thought it was pretty corny. I keep waiting for Hollywood to complete
the trilogy by making the bioflick "Hello, Baby: The Story Of The Big
Bopper." But is Hollywood listening to me? Not so far.
Will I what?
--Phil M.
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