Spectropop - Digest Number 1823

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• Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005

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There are 13 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Talking Guitar
           From: Jim Fisher 
      2. Question for Nashville S'poppers - Danny Davis
           From: Brent Cash 
      3. Margaret Ross; "Corinna Corinna"; "You Talk About Love"
           From: Country Paul 
      4. Sparky
           From: Simon White 
      5. Dick Bartley Presents: Classic Oldies 1965-1969
           From: David Bash 
      6. Re: Woo Hoo
           From: Austin Roberts 
      7. Sonovox and talkbox; Steve Allen; WOO Hoo and closing notes
           From: Country Paul 
      8. Re: "Corrina, Corrina" / Talking Guitars / Sonovox
           From: ModGirl 
      9. Re: Founding Del Viking gone
           From: ACJ 
     10. Question for Nashville S'poppers - Tony Moon
           From: Tom Diehl 
     11. Original "Corinna Corinna"
           From: Ed Salamon 
     12. Re: Founding Del Viking gone
           From: Ed Salamon 
     13. Ray Peterson with Bobby Vee and Johnny Crawford Photo
           From: Bob Celli 


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Message: 1
   Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 12:18:16 -0800
   From: Jim Fisher 
Subject: Re: Talking Guitar


Thanks to S'poppers for the info on "Forever" and how the "Talking 
Guitar" sound was created. I'm not sure why I said it was "Hawaiian",  
maybe the South Pacific Bali Hi-type chorus in the background threw 
my memory out. Someone kindly sent me an MP3 of it and another Pete 
Drake tune..his version of "Sleepwalk"...also worth a listen for 
anyone who wants to find out what a Talking Guitar actually has to 
say.

Jim.







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Message: 2         
   Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 00:13:08 -0000
   From: Brent Cash 
Subject: Question for Nashville S'poppers - Danny Davis


Hi everyone, earlier, Skip Woolwine wrote:
> One of the great things about living in Nashville is having friends 
> like Ed Salamon getting some of us old radio guys together with 
> some of the old music veterans to share stories. Just a few weeks 
> ago, Ed had myself, Nick Archer (both of us WSM and WLAC alumni), 
> Austin Roberts, Danny Davis, and Tony Moon over.

Skip, next time you or any of the other esteemed "Nashville Cats" 
visit with Danny Davis can you ask him what he remembers about having 
produced a single by Proof Of The Puddin' called "Color Wheel/Flying 
High"? It was on RCA from '67.All I can find on this group is that 
they were from Indiana. This is an adventurous offering even for 1967,
and a very well balanced record. There is more to Danny Davis than 
just The Nashville Brass, undoubtedly...

Best wishes,
Brent Cash





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Message: 3         
   Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 00:18:33 -0500
   From: Country Paul 
Subject: Margaret Ross; "Corinna Corinna"; "You Talk About Love"


"Please let him love me" is by Margaret Ross? Wow. I haven't enjoyed 
a new-to-me musica track this much in a long time. This could have 
been released just as it is and been a serious hit, I believe. Mick, 
does Margaret remember what year she cut this? I'm also sorry to hear 
the other Cookies aren't doing well. My thoughts and prayers go out 
to them. With this news, and the passing of Ray Peterson and so many 
others, maybe it's time for groups thinking about a reunion to get to 
it and do it before they can't.

Bob Rashkow re: "Corrina, Corrina"
> The only other version I've heard [besides Ray Peterson's] is (I
> believe) either Dean Martin or Perry Como on the B side of one of
> their lower charts (or non-charts).

The original r&b hit is by Big Joe Turner on Atlantic - it rocks out!
Me earlier:
> ... the amazing one-shot "I Know" by Barbara George ...

Gary M:
> I also like [Barbara George's] follow-up, "You Talk About Love",
> with the instrumental break done on drums.

Me earlier but later:
> Unknown to me, Gary.

Thanks to Michael Thom, I've had a chance to hear it. I find it not 
as obvious a chart number (and history proves that) but what a fine 
N'awlins sound, right down to Dr. John's great piano work. The drums 
have that great second-line feeling. Gotta get down to a Mardi Gras 
sometime soon before all the folks who play that way are gone.

Country Paul





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Message: 4         
   Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 23:10:57 +0000
   From: Simon White 
Subject: Sparky


Country Paul wrote wrote:
> I first came to know the Sonovox through a beloved record from my 
> childhood called "Sparky's Magic Piano" (Capitol, 1947) in which 
> a young boy dreams his piano can talk. It was written and produced 
> by Alan Livingston, with music by Billy May. 

I had this on a 45 - it struck absolute terror into my 5 year old 
heart at the time and mere mention of it now Paul, has made me sweat. 
The piano voice is what did it and when the piano won't play for him 
on stage... oh my God!

Luckily,  I also had a Little Richard E.P. to play with "Heebies 
Jeeby's" and that would calm me back down again. Which explains a lot 
about me really.....

Simon White





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Message: 5         
   Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 23:41:37 -0800
   From: David Bash 
Subject: Dick Bartley Presents: Classic Oldies 1965-1969


This may have been discussed here recently, but has anyone here heard 
this disc?  It advertises having first-time ever true stereo versions 
of "A Whiter Shade Of Pale" and "Love Is All Around", but I'm wondering 
if it's the usual case where something isn't quite right (e.g.some 
overdubs are missing/added, a verse is missing/added, etc...).

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks!

David Bash





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Message: 6         
   Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 18:02:32 -0500
   From: Austin Roberts 
Subject: Re: Woo Hoo


Now I could be wrong on this but I think the Rock-a-Teens were from 
the Richmond ,Va. area and the lead singer was Jess Duboy. He did a 
lot of on camera commercials (mostly Ford I think) throughout the 
Southeast. If anyone knows more or the truth (in case I'm wrong) 
please let us know.

Austin Roberts





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Message: 7         
   Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 00:58:36 -0500
   From: Country Paul 
Subject: Sonovox and talkbox; Steve Allen; WOO Hoo and closing notes


RIP David Lerchey. The NY Times ran the same obit that Bill Swanke
reprinted, slightly edited to their style.

Jim Cassidy:
> Back when stores like Woolworth's used to sell cutout 45's in
> plastic bags with five (?) discs to a bag, I found myself the
> proud owner of another single by "Pete Drake and his Talking
> Guitar" called "I'm Just a Guitar (Everybody Picks On Me)" on
> Smash.  According to All Music Guide, he also had a Top 30 hit
> in 1963 with "Talking Steel."

There's an entire album in this style on Smash.

Joe Nelson, re: Sonovox vs. "talkbox":
> I think Walsh and Frampton used a different device. A "talkbox" is a
> small, self-contained enclosed amplifier, out of which comes a tube
> through which the output from the speaker is then literally "piped"
> into the player's mouth. When the player steps up to the mic, he uses
> standard voice techniques to contort the sound in his mouth as if he
> was speaking, only the sound source isn't his voice box. Walsh
> fashioned one out of his standard amp (said he was afraid to use it
> for fear he'd get electrocuted), while Frampton, Aerosmith's Joe
> Perry and later Richie Sambora of Bon Jovi used commercial units
> (probably Electro-Harmonix Golden Throat Mouth Tubes).

Dr, Mark on the Sonovox:
> "One of the world's first, if not the first, voice-activated electronic
> synthesizer vocoder attachment, that Capitol Records calls the Sonovox."
> An electronic microphone talk box. It goes over the throat and picks up
> vibrations, which are then blended with other recorded sounds. It sounds
> like talking into a fan, only in reverse. Bono of the rock group U2 got
> his nickname from the Sonovox. His full stage name is "Bono Vox".

I stand corrected re: Walsh and Frampton - but I believe Neil Young on
"Trans" did use a Sonovox. I was told it comprised a couple of small
speakers strapped to the sides of one's vocal cords, which are then 
vibrated by the music played by the instrument, and the words are mouthed 
by the wired person (the "wiree"?). I don't know about "blending"; I was 
told that the texture of the output depends on the kind of instrument 
played into it.

Rob Pingel:
> Fans of the late, great Steve Allen may remember a regular segment
> on his old show where he would take a popular song of the day and
> read the lyrics in a serious, dramatic manner. Steve was not a big
> fan of rock and roll, and had a lot of fun doing these type of spoofs.
> Two memorably hysterical dramatizations were "Be Bop a Lu La" and
> "Whoo Hoo".

Allen also did a killer "reading" of Sam Cooke's "You Send Me," drawing 
out every "oo" of Cooke's phrasing.

By the way, the original Rock A Teens' release on Roulette is spelled 
"Woo Hoo." (Just noted in the interest of anti-revisionism!)

Mike Edwards re: Fabian, Avalon and Rydell

> ...I hope they make it to the Dunkin' Donuts Center here in
> Providence.

Egads! That's who bought the naming rights to the Civic Center? Ouch!

Norm D Plume Re: Ray Peterson, R.I.P.
> There's a long obituary of Ray Peterson in UK's The Guardian newspaper
> today by journalist Dave Laing.
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/obituaries/story/0,,1402781,00.html

Very enlightening. Thanks, Norm.

Country Paul





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Message: 8         
   Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 16:47:44 -0000
   From: ModGirl 
Subject: Re: "Corrina, Corrina" / Talking Guitars / Sonovox


Joni Mitchell did a lovely, subdued version of it on her "Chalkmark 
in a Rainstorm" LP from 1988. Steppenwolf also did a slow, blues-
metal version on "Early Steppenwolf" issued in 1969 (actually 
recorded in 1967, and I understand the band was actually known as 
"Sparrow" at the time).

Back in the late 70's a group called "Stillwater" from Georgia did a 
song called "Mindbender" (which was more or less a regional hit) that 
featured a "singing guitar" with a chorus going something like: 

"My daddy was a Gibson
my mama was a Fender
that's why they call me Mindbender..." 

I swear I'm not making this up! Somebody else out there has heard it!

Mark Hill wrote:
> "One of the world's first, if not the first, voice-activated 
> electronic synthesizer vocoder attachment, that Capitol Records 
> calls the Sonovox." An electronic microphone talk box. It goes 
> over the throat and picks up vibrations, which are then blended 
> with other recorded sounds. It sounds like talking into a fan, 
> only in reverse. Bono of the rock group U2 got his nickname from 
> the Sonovox. His full stage name is "Bono Vox". 

Would that be the device so commonly used for radio promo spots back 
in the day? As in spelling out the call letters and ending with the 
name of city? I used to LOVE that effect! Kinda cheesy in retrospect, 
but still way cool.

ModGirl 

P.S. This board ROCKS!!!





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Message: 9         
   Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 14:16:17 -0500
   From: ACJ 
Subject: Re: Founding Del Viking gone


Sorry to hear about Dave Lerchey. "Come Go With Me" was the first
"doo-wop" hit that I remember hearing - even in the late '60s and early
'70s, when I began listening to top-40 radio, our local top-40 DJ often
played that record; and when a new DelVikings group re-did the song in
the mid-'70s, it got lots of airplay on our station.

ACJ





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Message: 10        
   Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 00:51:19 -0000
   From: Tom Diehl 
Subject: Question for Nashville S'poppers - Tony Moon


Skip Woolwine wrote:
> One of the great things about living in Nashville is having friends 
> like Ed Salamon getting some of us old radio guys together with 
> some of the old music veterans to share stories. Just a few weeks 
> ago, Ed had myself, Nick Archer (both of us WSM and WLAC alumni), 
> Austin Roberts, Danny Davis, and Tony Moon over.

Does Tony Moon have email access? I'd be interested in exchanging 
emails with him. I collect records on the Diamond label as well as 
the Certron label (which diamond merged with Little Darlin records 
to form), and one Certron lp I have is "Spend Some Time With Me" by 
Pozo Seco. Tony arranged and produced the album, as well as playing 
guitar on it...and i'd love to hear from him as to what he remembers 
from those sessions.

Tom "Diamond" Diehl








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Message: 11        
   Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 20:41:33 -0000
   From: Ed Salamon 
Subject: Original "Corinna Corinna"


Bob Rashkow re: "Corrina, Corrina"
> The only other version I've heard [besides Ray Peterson's] is (I
> believe) either Dean Martin or Perry Como on the B side of one of
> their lower charts (or non-charts). 

Country Paul:
> The original r&b hit is by Big Joe Turner on Atlantic - it rocks 
> out.

"Corrina, Corrina" is an old folk song. Ray said he was influened 
by Bob Wills hit (1940 on Okeh), which is probably where Joe Turner 
learned it as well. 

Ed








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Message: 12        
   Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 20:24:27 -0000
   From: Ed Salamon 
Subject: Re: Founding Del Viking gone


ACJ:
> a new DelVikings group re-did the song in the mid-'70s, it got lots 
> of airplay on our station.

Because of that record, I placed a master of another Pittsburgh 
group, The Marcels, which I had produced with Dave Shaffer at his Fox 
Studios with Scepter subsidiary Queen Bee. Our remakes of "High On A 
Hill" b/w "In The Still Of The Night" sank quickly as did Queen Bee 
(which also issued a Screaming Jay Hawkins single, so we were at 
least in good company). It was booted on blue vinyl (the originals 
were pressed on styrene) which was cool.

Ed Salamon








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Message: 13        
   Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 20:43:16 -0000
   From: Bob Celli 
Subject: Ray Peterson with Bobby Vee and Johnny Crawford Photo


I posted a nice shot of Ray Peterson, Johnny Crawford 
and Bobby Vee from 1962. Enjoy!

Bob Celli








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