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There are 22 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Jack Nitzsche compilation CD
From: Mick Patrick
2. Sam Bobrick
From: Austin Roberts
3. Re: Mamie Van Doren in musica.
From: Julio Niño
4. Re: The Casuals
From: Austin Roberts
5. Re: Dino, Desi, Billy ... & Dino
From: Phil X Milstein
6. Re: Local radio charts
From: Gary Myers
7. Abba
From: Austin Roberts
8. Re: Dino, Desi, Billy ... & Lucy
From: Andy
9. Surf Music, California, and Local Radio Charts
From: David Feldman
10. Re: Gentrys on Hit now playing on musica
From: Javed Jafri
11. Bobby Hart
From: Mikey
12. Re: Gentrys on Hit now playing on musica
From: Mikey
13. Re: Dino, Desi, Billy, Dean ... & Ann-Margret !
From: Frank Helm
14. Re: Dino, Desi, BIlly ... & Lucy : Billy speaks !
From: Susan
15. The Beach Boys on X and Candix
From: Stephen C. Propes
16. Dick Dale and the roots of Surf music
From: James Botticelli
17. Re: Tyrone Davis, R.I.P.
From: Pres
18. "Wild Thing" revisited
From: Fred Clemens
19. Re: Dick Dale and the roots of Surf music
From: Steve Jarrell
20. Re: Dino, Desi, Billy ... & Nancy
From: Ed B
21. "Mantenga Limpio Su Corazon", Jack Nitzsche and a nice cup of tea
From: Julio Niño
22. Re: Dick Dale and the roots of Surf music
From: Gary Myers
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 23:46:11 -0000
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Re: Jack Nitzsche compilation CD
Julio Niño:
> I know that letting build the suspense could be more fun,
> but I'm a very impatient guy. Perhaps Mick could give us
> some tips about the tracks that are included in that long
> awaited compilation. If not I'll need to take some of the
> pills I use to sedate my cats when I must take them on a
> trip, and I don't know which side effects they could have.
Camomile tea. Personally, I can't stand the stuff, but I'm
informed it has calming properties.
Any road up, to the Jack Nitzsche Story, a test pressing of
which has been the soundtrack of my working day. It'll be out
at the end of March. Find the tracklist below. Enjoy.
Hey la,
Mick Patrick
HEARING IS BELIEVING: THE JACK NITZSCHE STORY (ACE CDCHD 1030)
1: Jack Nitzsche - The Lonely Surfer
(Martin Cooper, Bernard Nitzsche)
Reprise 20,202, 1963
Arranged and Conducted by Jack Nitzsche
Produced by Jimmy Bowen
2: Frankie Laine - Don't Make My Baby Blue
(Barry Mann, Cynthia Weil)
Columbia 4-42767, 1963
Arranged and Conducted by Jack Nitzsche
Produced by Terry Melcher
3: Jackie DeShannon - Needles And Pins
(Bernard Nitzsche, Salvatore Bono)
Liberty 55563, 1963
Arranged by Jack Nitzsche
Produced by Dick Glasser
4: Eddie Hodges - Seein' Is Believin'
(Bodie Chandler)
Columbia 4-42649, 1962
Arranged and Conducted by Jack Nitzsche
Produced by Terry Melcher
5: Bobby Darin - Not For Me
(Bobby Darin)
Capitol 4970, 1963
Arranged and Conducted by Jack Nitzsche
6: Doris Day - Move Over Darling
(Hal Kanter, Terry Melcher, Joe Lubin)
Columbia 4-42912, 1963
Arranged and Conducted by Jack Nitzsche
Produced by Terry Melcher
7: Little Stevie Wonder - Castles In The Sand
(Hal Davis, Marc Gordon, Mary O’Brien, Frank Wilson)
Tamla 54090, 1963
Strings Arranged by Jack Nitzsche
Produced by Hal Davis and Marc Gordon
8: Jack Nitzsche - Rumble
(Milton Grant, Fred Wray Sr.)
Reprise 20,225, 1963
Arranged and Conducted by Jack Nitzsche
Produced by Jimmy Bowen
9: Round Robin - Kick That Little Foot Sally Ann
(Steve Barri, Phil Sloan)
Domain 1404, 1964
Arranged by Jack Nitzsche
A Sepe/Brooks/Krasnow Production
10: The Paris Sisters - Always Waitin'
(Michael Curb)
Mercury 72468, 1965
Arranged by Jack Nitzsche
Produced by Mike Curb
11: Gene McDaniels - Walk With A Winner
(Keith Colley, Jill Jones, Larry Mannering)
Liberty 55805, 1965
Arranged by Jack Nitzsche
Produced by Joe Saraceno
12: Lesley Gore - No Matter What You Do
(Tommy Boyce, Bobby Hart)
Mercury 72513, 1966
Arranged by Jack Nitzsche
Produced by Quincy Jones
13: The Righteous Brothers - Hung On You
(Gerald Goffin, Carole King, Phil Spector)
Philles 129, 1965
Engineered by Larry Levine
Arranged by Jack Nitzsche
Produced by Phil Spector
14: Bob Lind - Cheryl's Goin' Home
(Bob Lind)
World Pacific 77708, 1966
Arranged and Produced by Jack Nitzsche
15: Don and the Goodtimes - I Could Be So Good To You
(Greg Dempsey, Bernard Nitzsche)
Epic 10145, 1967
Arranged and Produced by Jack Nitzsche
16: Judy Henske - Road To Nowhere
(Gerald Goffin, Carole King)
Reprise 0485, 1966
Arranged and Produced by Jack Nitzsche
17: Garry Bonner - The Heart Of Juliet Jones
(Garry Bonner, Alan Gordon)
Columbia 4-44306, 1967
Arranged and Produced by Jack Nitzsche
A Product of Koppelman-Rubin Associates, Inc.
18: Lou Christie - Wild Life's In Season
(Lou Christie, Twyla Herbert)
MGM 13623, 1966
Produced and Arranged by Jack Nitzsche
for R. P. Marcucci Enterprises, Inc.
19: P. J. Proby - You Make Me Feel Like Someone
(Irwin Levine, Phillip Springer)
Liberty LP 83032, 1967
Arranged and Produced by Jack Nitzsche
20: Tim Buckley - It Happens Every Time
(Tim Buckley)
Elektra LP 74004, 1966
Arranged by Tim Buckley
Strings Arranged by Jack Nitzsche
Produced by Paul Rothchild and Jac Holzman
21: Marianne Faithfull - Sister Morphine
(Marianne Faithfull, Keith Richard, Michael Jagger)
London 1022, 1969
Arranged by Jack Nitzsche
Produced by Mick Jagger
22: The James Gang - Ashes, The Rain And I
(Dale Peters, Joseph Walsh)
ABC LP 711, 1970
Arranged by the James Gang
Strings Arranged by Jack Nitzsche
Produced by Bill Szymczyk
23: Buffy Sainte-Marie - Helpless
(Neil Young)
Vanguard 35135, 1970
Arranged by Jack Nitzsche
Produced by Jack Nitzsche and Buffy Sainte-Marie
24: Mink DeVille - Mixed Up, Shook Up Girl
(William De Ville)
Capitol 4461, 1977
Produced by Jack Nitzsche
25: Graham Parker and the Rumour - You Can't Be Too Strong
(Graham Parker)
UK Vertigo LP 9102 030, 1979
Produced by Jack Nitzsche
26: Jack Nitzsche - One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest
(Bernard Nitzsche)
Fantasy 760, 1976
Arranged, Conducted and Produced by Jack Nitzsche
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 00:53:18 -0500
From: Austin Roberts
Subject: Sam Bobrick
I can't remember if I put this in here earlier, but, I've got a
friend on the coast (west) who wrote 'Saved By The Bell', some Andy
Griffiths, Green Acres, Gomer Pyle etc. He also wrote, a long ass
time ago, 'IT'S A GAS' for Mad Magazine. It was an insrumental that
would stop occasionally and you'd hear someone let loose with a
prize winning burp. I remember hearing it as a kid. He also wrote
Ral Donner's, 'GIRL BEST FRIEND'. Funny guy named Sam Bobrick from
Chicago.
Austin R.
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 20:39:53 -0000
From: Julio Niño
Subject: Re: Mamie Van Doren in musica.
Hola Everybody.
I want to thank Billy G. Spradlin for playing in musica Mamie Van
Doren´s "The Boy Catcher´s Theme". It´s very nice and inspiring (I
wish it include detailed instructions of how to proceed). I've been
investigating about Mamie, who I knew mainly as a fifties and sixties
B-movie star and pin-up, and according to a discography of her
included in this webpage http://koti.mbnet.fi/wdd/mamievandoren.htm ,
the song was the A side of a 1966 single ( B-side "Cabaret").
Nowadays Mamie looks quite impressive, like a kind of ultra-siliconed
predator grandma.
Chao.
Julio Niño.
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 17:43:10 -0500
From: Austin Roberts
Subject: Re: The Casuals
Hey Mike, Different Casuals. Buzz's backed Brenda Lee.
Austin R.
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 16:50:32 -0800
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Re: Dino, Desi, Billy ... & Dino
Mike Dugo wrote:
> I've often times wondered this myself but so far research
> seems to indicate that they did not appear. Makes you wonder "why
> not"? Of course, if I'm incorrect and they did in fact appear,
> please come forward with the details.
Although Desi, Jr.'s mom was too afraid of the competition to put DDB
on her TV show, Dino, Jr.'s dad happily allowed them into one of his
movies, -- "Murderer's Row," from his Matt Helm series. In fact if I
remember correctly they got to play an entire number, or quite nearly
a whole one, although I cannot remember what the hell number it was.
--Phil M.
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:13:03 -0800
From: Gary Myers
Subject: Re: Local radio charts
I always used to enjoy Billboard's little "Regional Breakouts" listings.
Another record that was probably bigger in L.A. than anywhere else was
Larry Bright's "Mojo Workout" (early 1960).
gem
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 18:20:10 -0500
From: Austin Roberts
Subject: Abba
This is FYI to all my new and old friends on Spectropop. Yesterday
I found out that, because of the success of Mama Mia and the constant
popularity of ABBA as a group and as four personalities, they (whoever
they are) are in the process of putting together a 'very important'
anthology together on them. Since I was fortunate enought to have a
Peter Cetera-produced single on Agnetha (which did very well in many
places though not released in USA) called LET IT SHINE, this song will
be on the anthology. WOW is all I can say! I hope no one takes this
wrong; I really am bragging. Ha.
Best to all, Austin R.
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 00:02:35 -0000
From: Andy
Subject: Re: Dino, Desi, Billy ... & Lucy
David Coyle wrote:
> Did Dino, Desi and Billy ever appear on "The Lucy Show"? If so,
> that would be a nice episode to see, since "The Lucy Show" is
> another program that you see a lot on those cheapo DVDs.
I've gone through all the "Lucy" shows and found no log with the
"group" showing up. But, I have found 13 TV appearances of DDB.
Where The Action Is (3 times); The Hollywood Palace (twice), American
Bandstand, Shindig and the 1st "in color" Ed Sullivan Show. I know
that equals 9 - so they were "judges" of an amateur band contest on
the 1st 4 episodes of Happening '68. But, yes DDB did appear with
Lucy on the 11/14/1966 episode of "Where The Action Is". Hope this
helps.
andy
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 02:29:49 -0500
From: David Feldman
Subject: Surf Music, California, and Local Radio Charts
I grreatly enjoyed Clark Besch's discussion of the KFWB charts during
the early surf era in Los Angeles. I was a pre-teen during this
period, and I bought the 45's of "Let's Go Trippin'," "Surfer's Stomp,"
and "Surfin'" (on X, not Candix) as soon as they came out.
I can't emphasize enough how important Dick Dale and the Deltones were
to the local scene. They *were* surf music for a critical year or two
and hardcore surfers tended to prefer instrumental-oriented bands. It
wasn't that surfers didn't embrace the Beach Boys, but the Beach Boys
(and as Clark mentions, the Ventures) never were and never pretended to
be *of* the subculture. Surf instrumentals were likely to hit the top
20 locally (I vividly remember "Surfer's Stomp" hanging in there but
never hitting #1, and rooting for "Bustin' Surfboards" to climb further).
The surfers didn't disdain songs just because they became big hits
(e.g., "Pipeline," "Miserlou," "Wipe Out) but looked askance at ho-dads
like me who thought Al Casey's "Surfin ' Hootenanny" was beyond cool.
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 21:31:04 -0800
From: Javed Jafri
Subject: Re: Gentrys on Hit now playing on musica
Paul Urbahns:
> It's those Nashville Katz striking again. It's the usual Nashville
> session musicians mentioned in other posts (Cason, Russell, White)
> but the label is misprinted. I thought it might be an early version
> at first partially because the single is mono and HIts at that time
> were stereo. But the stereo version poped up on an album and it is
> just another great sound-a-like for the Hit factory.
OK guys I'm lost here. Is the credit on the Hits label listed as The
Gentrys and is that a misprint? How were these Hits knock-offs
usually credited ? BTW I like the original better. One of my all-time
favorites.
Javed
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:29:32 -0400
From: Mikey
Subject: Bobby Hart
For Austin Roberts: Are you in touch with Bobby Hart at all these days?
Thanks,
Mikey
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:44:26 -0400
From: Mikey
Subject: Re: Gentrys on Hit now playing on musica
Javed Jafri:
> OK guys I'm lost here. Is the credit on the Hits label listed as
> The Gentrys and is that a misprint? How were these Hits knock-offs
> usually credited? BTW, I like the original better. One of my all-
> time favorites.
Javed, Yes, the printing on the HIT Records version that says "The
Gentrys" is a misprint. To do that intentionally would have been a
crime. HIT always created a bogus name for their releases, as the
HIT versions were all done in Nashville by the same small team of
talented session singers and musicians. They just made up new names
for new releases, altho, they use the same name for multiple releases
like singer "Ed Hardin" (Bobby Russel).
They were knocked out at a record speed, usually three sides in a 3
hour session, depending on the tunes. Amazingly, those Nasville
session guys were very good at copying the current records,
especially the drummers. Some of the records are extremely well done,
others aren't. Pretty impressive, tho', if you ask me.
Hope this helps.
Mikey
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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 16:25:36 +0100
From: Frank Helm
Subject: Re: Dino, Desi, Billy, Dean ... & Ann-Margret !
Phil X Milstein wrote:
> Although Desi, Jr.'s mom was too afraid of the competition to put DDB
> on her TV show, Dino, Jr.'s dad happily allowed them into one of his
> movies, -- "Murderer's Row," from his Matt Helm series. In fact if I
> remember correctly they got to play an entire number, or quite nearly
> a whole one, although I cannot remember what the hell number it was.
The song is called "If you're Thinking what I'm Thinking" and is by
Boyce and Hart. During the song there was also an in-joke done by Dino
about the band (and his son of course) which he tried to place to
Ann-Margret. But she was grooovin' so high she couldn't care less what
he said. Can't remember the exact words, sorry.
Boy, this is one of my all-time favorite Ann-Margret dance scenes ever.
Only topped by her performance in "Made In Paris" with Mongo Santamaria
playing the bongos to it.
BTW "If You're..." is not included on the soundtrack LP which features
the score music by Lalo Schifrin. I'm not sure if it received a release
at all. Any ideas?
Frank Helm
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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 10:39:25 EST
From: Susan
Subject: Re: Dino, Desi, BIlly ... & Lucy : Billy speaks !
David:
> Did Dino, Desi and Billy ever appear on "The Lucy Show"? If so,
> that would be a nice episode to see, since "The Lucy Show" is
> another program that you see a lot on those cheapo DVDs.
I asked Billy Hinsche about this, and here's his reply:
"DD&B never did the "Lucy Show," "Here's Lucy," "Life with Lucy" or
"I Love Lucy"! We did, however, do the "warm up" show prior to the
"The Lucy Show." This was circa 1964, right before we really hit
the big time..."
Susan
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Message: 15
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 15:40:34 -0000
From: Stephen C. Propes
Subject: The Beach Boys on X and Candix
Previously:
> I bought the 45's of "Let's Go Trippin'," "Surfer's Stomp," and
> "Surfin'" (on X, not Candix) as soon as they came out.
Did you buy the X label version in a record shop? The reason I ask
is because the Candix version was legit, but I understand that the
X variation was essentially a bootleg pressed up for Murry Wilson
who peddled the 45s on Venice Beach.
Even if not true, makes for a great story. Can anyone confirm or deny?
Steve
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Message: 16
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 10:26:10 -0500
From: James Botticelli
Subject: Dick Dale and the roots of Surf music
David Feldman wrote:
> I can't emphasize enough how important Dick Dale and the Deltones
> were to the local scene.
Interestingly enuff, Dick Dale is a native of my Boston area and from
the provincial hamlet known as Roslindale, a 'neighborhood' of Boston
proper where a large number of Lebanese immigrated to back in 'a' day.
In fact, Dale is Lebanese and has mentioned that his music, often said
to be the origin of surf music, was a spinoff of Middle Eastern music.
And that 'Misirlou' itself is a takeoff on an actual Middle Eastern
tune....Essentially surf music is Middle Eastern music spun off once
successfully by Dick Dale and became a genre unto itself subsequently.
I love that story. Even if it is proven to be untrue. Because it lends
itself to the theory that the greatest successes in life are mainly due
to happy accidents, not due to the "Nose to the Grindstone" mythology
that we always hear about. Although Dick must have had to nose it to
the grindstone to produce what he produced. But it must have been
happily nosed, not the supreme sacrifice as noted in American Work
Ethic lore......
JB/Back to Hibernation
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Message: 17
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 16:03:04 -0000
From: Pres
Subject: Re: Tyrone Davis, R.I.P.
ModGirl wrote:
> R&B singer Tyrone Davis dead at 66
> -----------------------
> I always thought "Turn Back the Hands of Time" was one of the greats.
If you have the 45, flip it over for "I Keep Coming Back". A great
piece of testify. "I'll Keep Coming Back" is another great, seemingly
forgotten, record. Perfect for the "beach music" set.
pres
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Message: 18
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 16:43:17 -0000
From: Fred Clemens
Subject: "Wild Thing" revisited
I recently picked up the Wild Ones UA single, "Wild Thing". I also
checked through the Spectropop Archives, and didn't find any
evidence that it'd ever been posted to Musica before.
A bit of info gathered from the record: It was produced and arranged
by Gerry Granahan, writer credit going to Chip Taylor (of course).
>From what I've also been able to find out, it was the UA release
just prior to Jay and the Americans "Sunday And Me". The Columbia
master numbers are also in direct sequence with that issue. Though
it never Charted until much later in the year, the Jay and the
Americans record shows as being recorded on July 13, 1965 (according
to Fernando Gonzales' DISCO-FILE), which might indicate that the
Wild Ones sessions were recorded on (or about) that date.
As for the record, it sounds sort of goofy (almost reminiscent of
the Hollywood Argyles "Alley Oop"), like the Wild Ones didn't take
the song seriously (like it was supposed to be serious!?!). i'm also
wondering if it's Gerry Granahan doing the lead vocal on the song.
For those who are brave (or the least bit curious) enough to venture
a listen to the lover's lament, I'll post it to Musica in the next
couple of days in RealAudio format (...sorry, I can't do MP3's).
Fred Clemens
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Message: 19
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 10:51:38 -0600
From: Steve Jarrell
Subject: Re: Dick Dale and the roots of Surf music
David Feldman wrote:
> I can't emphasize enough how important Dick Dale and the Deltones
> were to the local scene.
Jimmy Botticelli:
> Interestingly enuff, Dick Dale is a native of my Boston area and from
> the provincial hamlet known as Roslindale, a 'neighborhood' of Boston
> proper where a large number of Lebanese immigrated to back in 'a' day.
> In fact, Dale is Lebanese and has mentioned that his music, often said
> to be the origin of surf music, was a spinoff of Middle Eastern music.
> And that 'Misirlou' itself is a takeoff on an actual Middle Eastern
> tune....Essentially surf music is Middle Eastern music spun off once
> successfully by Dick Dale and became a genre unto itself subsequently.
> I love that story. Even if it is proven to be untrue. Because it lends
> itself to the theory that the greatest successes in life are mainly due
> to happy accidents, not due to the "Nose to the Grindstone" mythology
> that we always hear about. Although Dick must have had to nose it to
> the grindstone to produce what he produced. But it must have been
> happily nosed, not the supreme sacrifice as noted in American Work
> Ethic lore......
It is really nice to read postings about Dick Dale. I was his sax
player in the 70's. I really admire Dick and probably learned more
about the music business, and how to run a band, from him than anyone
in my life. God Bless him, he's still going strong!
Steve Jarrell
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Message: 20
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 17:32:21 -0000
From: Ed B
Subject: Re: Dino, Desi, Billy ... & Nancy
Dino, Desi & Billy also appeared in "Movin' With Nancy" which came
on DVD a few years ago, not as guests but singing a commercial for
Royal Crown Cola.
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Message: 21
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 18:06:03 -0000
From: Julio Niño
Subject: "Mantenga Limpio Su Corazon", Jack Nitzsche and a nice cup of tea
Hola Everybody.
"In Madrid, people sin massively". This description of Madrid as
a sin city isn't the last official publicity slogan created to attract
tourism, but one of the last condemnatory warnings of Monsignor Rouco
Varela, bishop of Madrid. That admonition has originated perplexity
and/or fun for Madrilenians. Personally I think that's a little
exaggeration. Anyway those words brought immediately to my mind the
lyrics of a song by Spanish singer Alicia Granados: " Mantenga Limpio
Su Corazón" (keep your heart clean), recorded for the Spanish label
Belter in 1967 (she was just twelve then). The lyrics of the song are
quite optimistic and they propose, as a way to live happily, to clear
your mind of prejudices (prejudice could be one of the ugliest and
less elegant sins). I would love to play the song to musica now that
there's room, but I would need some Samaritan mediation and don't want
to be a pain in the neck.
Leaving the pulpit. I want to thank Mick, first for kindly giving us
an advance of the upcoming Jack Nitzsche compilation (I'm counting the
days until its release, not only for the great songs but also for the
liner notes that I'm sure will be very interesting), and then for his
recommendation to tranquilize my crazy nerves. How should I take the
Chamomile tea, intravenously?
Chao.
Julio Niño.
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Message: 22
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 10:35:05 -0800
From: Gary Myers
Subject: Re: Dick Dale and the roots of Surf music
James Botticelli:
> ... 'Misirlou' itself is a takeoff on an actual Middle Eastern tune.
Misirlou first charted (at least in the USA) by Harry James in 1941.
I suspect this is what influenced Dick Dale to include the trumpet on
his version.
gem
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