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There are 19 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Water music
From: Phil X Milstein
2. Lou Christie's Backup Singers
From: Cynthia Santiglia
3. Ode to L.A.
From: Keith Beach
4. Re: Top 40 lyric database
From: Gary Myers
5. Re: The Rascals
From: Gary Myers
6. Re: Oldies Topping The UK Charts
From: Artie Wayne
7. Re: Through Spray Colored Glasses
From: Paul Richards
8. Re: Peterik and Cooke/Womack & Womack
From: Phil X Milstein
9. Re: Young Rascals
From: Bill Mulvy
10. Katja Hollaender
From: Christian Steiner
11. Ad music; JB's finds; Singing Bodies; Artie: lyrics and Judee
From: Country Paul
12. Russ Titleman
From: Mark Frumento
13. Hard Times
From: Bill George
14. Re: Sunny by Bobby Hebb
From: Bob Rashkow
15. Re: This Week's finds
From: Bob Rashkow
16. Rhino Girl Group Box Set ???
From: Maurice Seaton
17. Del Satins
From: Phil X Milstein
18. Re: The Boxer
From: Various
19. When cousins, identical cousins ...
From: Phil X Milstein
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:12:06 -0400
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Re: Water music
Country Paul wrote:
> I stand corrected. I've checked out the Water site - amazing
> catalog of reissues. Thanks, Bryan - I see another purchase in
> my future....
Agreed that their catalogue has a lot of great-looking stuff in
it, but note that they sell only through distributors and not to
individual customers. Thus, for most of us the catalogue is a
good source for figuring out what we'd like to get, but we are
then left to our own devices to locate and buy a copy.
Ever the party-pooper,
--Phil M.
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:18:28 -0400
From: Cynthia Santiglia
Subject: Lou Christie's Backup Singers
Phil Hall:
> Yesterday for the second night in a row, I heard Lou Christie's
> "Two Faces Have I" while driving home. I wonder who did the
> wonderful background vocals? I would have thought The Blossoms,
> except that they were based on the West coast while Lou was from
> the East coast. I know The Angels backed Lou on "Lightnin' Strikes".
> Could it have been them?
Hello everyone- this is my first post!
I have very much enjoyed reading the lively exchanges on Spectropop
and wish you all well.
Peggy Santiglia of The Angels, who happens to be my aunt, could
confirm this for you Phil- I'll have to ask her. If memory serves
it was indeed The Angels on that track, but I am not positive. The
voices do sound like them, specifically Barbara and Jiggs.
Cheers!
Cynthia
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:47:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: Keith Beach
Subject: Ode to L.A.
Driving home from the office today...ears pricked up to a
great 'retro' sounding track on Radio London. Lots of jangly
bells, castanets etc. Then suddenly 'that' voice joins in...
Ronnie Spector is back! The track is Ode to L.A. from the
forthcoming Raveonettes CD "Pretty in Black" (a great title,
yes?). This has got everything. Spectorish, whoa oh oh's,
catchy song. The DJ loved it and so will you.
Keith Beach
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:52:13 -0700
From: Gary Myers
Subject: Re: Top 40 lyric database
> The next time there's a question on a lyric, check out the
> Top 40 lyric database at http://www.top40db.net/
While that may, indeed, be a good site, I think it's best to keep
in mind that most of these sites are just postings by individuals
who have done their own transcribing, often incorrectly. When it
comes to chords, for instance, the vast majority of postings that
I've seen are incorrect. There is one such http://theguitarguy.com
(I think). I looked at probably 10-12 songs and none of them were
correct all the way through. Many mistakes were minor but some
were drastic, like going to the wrong key for the bridge of
"Beyond The Sea".
Gary Myers
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 12:57:41 -0700
From: Gary Myers
Subject: Re: The Rascals
Bill Mulvy:
> I think they dropped the Young part after they were no longer
> that young anymore.
Are they now touring as the Old Rascals?
gem
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 13:55:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: Artie Wayne
Subject: Re: Oldies Topping The UK Charts
Dave...Mick...Phil...How ya'doin'? With all of the
Oldies topping the English charts, I'd like to remind
Charlie Gillett of two of my biggest hits..."Queen for
Tonight" by Helen Shapiro and "Excuse me Baby" by the
Magic Lanterns. I think both are ripe for commercial
pickin"!
Does anyone have an e-mail address on Charlie Gillett?
Thanks and regards,
Artie Wayne
http://artiewayne.com/
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:04:20 EDT
From: Paul Richards
Subject: Re: Through Spray Colored Glasses
I can upload this track once there's some space in musica.
The Match's version of this great Stu Phillips/David Gates
song is as good as DDB's.
Paul R
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:17:29 -0400
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Re: Peterik and Cooke/Womack & Womack
Gary Myers wrote:
> I may be way off base, but it seems to me that he [Jim Peterik] also
> produced a single (maybe of the Beatles' "Things We Said Today"?)
> by Sam Cooke's daughter.
I'm curious to hear more about this. Would that daughter be Linda, of
later Womack & Womack fame? And, whatever happened to that duo (with her
husband, Cecil Womack)? They put out a handful of supremely exciting,
intelligent and catchy soul-pop records in the '80s (my favorites being
"Baby I'm Scared Of You" and "Teardrops"), showing promise for a long
career of great music ahead, but instead seemed to disappear completely.
--Phil M.
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:52:26 -0500
From: Bill Mulvy
Subject: Re: Young Rascals
Mikey:
> The band was called The Rascals, and right when they were
> signed by Atlantic and it was announced in Billboard, musician
> and bandleader Johnny Puleo of "Johnny Puleo and The Harmonicat
> Rascals", a popular group with the older set, sued for use of
> the name "Rascals" Atlantics solution was to change the name
> to The Young Rascals. Thats how it happened, as told by Gene
> Cornish on NPR.
Mikey,
If that's the case how were they able to use the name later in
their career?
Bill Mulvy
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:21:59 +0200
From: Christian Steiner
Subject: Katja Hollaender
Does anybody - maybe of the German members of the list - have
a discography of sixties singer Katja Hollaender? I have two
gorgeous 45s and am looking for more!!!
Thanks a lot,
Krischan
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 14:12:25 -0400
From: Country Paul
Subject: Ad music; JB's finds; Singing Bodies; Artie: lyrics and Judee
Norm:
> A lot of increasingly obscure music tracks are used as advert
> music. I recently spotted Prof. Longhair's "Big Chief" ....
Now *that's* class!
JB finds:
> Marsh - The Ribbons - Ain't Gonna Kiss Ya
Always loved this. Any idea on who they were?
> United Artists - Mike Clifford - Danny's Dream/One Boy Too Late
For a guy whose voice was flat as a pancake, he attempted some
pretty ambitious compositions. Another fave: "One By One The
Roses Died," an Italian song adapted to English.
Phil Chapman, re: "What Am I Gonna Do With You":
> Lesley's is the first version I heard, but I came to like the
> Chiffons' best. It's difficult to make a bad version of this
> finely crafted song, but in 1966 (and I hate to lower the
> tone) the Singing Bodies had a good try:
> http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/files/musica/
Try as they may, they couldn't kill it - but they did leave it
seriously maimed! I've had this in my mp3 collection for a while
- it firmly straddles the "incorrect" and the "Spop era."
A question on its making: just who was trying to do what with
this version?
Artie Wayne:
> The next time there's a question on a lyric, check out the Top
> 40 lyric database at http://www.top40db.net/ . My friend Alan
> O'Day ("Undercover Angel", "Angie Baby") turned me on to it.
> It's a must for every Spectropopper!
Just bookmarked it - thanks, Artie!...and thank you for the
recollection of Judee Sill. I've found, meeting many artists,
that some "radiate" their power/uniqueness/talent. I'm curious
what she was like in person, at least as you knew her.
Country Paul
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 13:00:28 -0000
From: Mark Frumento
Subject: Russ Titleman
To Kingsley's point about RT: has anyone ever compiled a list
of his earlier songs? Of all of the writers of the 60s his song
really stand out as incredibly melodically subtle (as opposed
to the direct to hook writing of Carole King and others). My
favorite of all his songs is 'I Never Dreamed'. Been on a quest
to find other examples but I think I can count on one hand the
number of Russ Titleman songs I have.
Another question: has anyone ever talked to him about this
period in his career? I know there is a bit about him in one
of the Spector books but that's all I've found.
Mark F.
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:34:06 EDT
From: Bill George
Subject: Hard Times
Someone here recently mentioned the Pozo Seco Singers' version
of Chip Taylor's "I Can Make It With You" (also a minor hit for
Jackie DeShannon.) I have a video of a group called 'Hard Times'
doing it. It's a great version. Was this ever released on vinyl?
And if so can someone post it to musica? Thanks.
Bill
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 16:21:36 EDT
From: Bob Rashkow
Subject: Re: Sunny by Bobby Hebb
"Sunny" as originally done so successfully by Bobby Hebb has
grown on me over the years. When I first heard it I really
didn't think that much of it. Now I truly believe it to be
one of the best "one-hit wonder" tunes as well as just an
absolutely brilliant and MOVING piece of music from the mid 6Ts.
I never used to, but now whenever I hear it in my car I turn it
way up. It's the kind of song no one would dream of trying to
sell today. Which makes it all the more special and great.
Bobster
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 16:27:46 EDT
From: Bob Rashkow
Subject: Re: This Week's finds
Dear Mr. Botticelli: (re your latest finds!) The Ribbons and
Mike Clifford singles are hard to locate. Congratulations!!
(I may be trekking out to Beverly Records, south Chicago,
tomorrow and will post anything worth noting of treasures that
await my inspection there) And courtesy of Cha Cha Charming I
am very proud indeed to have none other than Jill Gibson's
version of "It's as Easy as 1,2,3" on my download collection.
What a killer girl sound!!! I love it almost as much as I love
Diane Castle's "For the Love of Mike" (1964, also courtesy of
Sheila B.)
Bobster (hopefully soon listening to a decent copy of
Jan Bradley's "Mama Didn't Lie" on the original Formal label
--Chicago's very own!)
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:56:51 -0000
From: Maurice Seaton
Subject: Rhino Girl Group Box Set ???
I have seen a few postings claiming that Rhino Records are going
to release a 4-CD Girl Group box set along the lines of the Doo
Wop box sets. Anyone got any inside info the might like to share?
Thanks in advance
Mojo
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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 19:11:25 -0800
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Del Satins
I found a neato little Del Satins site, including bio, photos and
discography, at http://www.tangerinemusic.com/original.htm . Best
I can tell, it seems to be run by one of the group's original members.
Anyone familiar with their B.T. Puppy 45 (from 1965), "Relief" /
"The Throwaway Song"? The titles intrigue ...
Dig,
Phil M.
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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 23:39:19 +0100
From: Various
Subject: Re: The Boxer
Phil M. wrote:
>Of all the times I've been in NYC, I have never seen a single
>whore on any part of (the very long) 2nd Avenue. Are there other
>references in "The Boxer" that identify the story's locale as NYC?
>If not then perhaps he was singing of another city, one whose
>2nd Ave. really was a hot bed of the low life.
Charles Ulrich:
I'm pretty sure the line refers to Seventh Ave.
Joe Nelson:
How about 7th Avenue, which is the one he actually mentions?
There is that last verse: "And I'm laying out my winter clothes / and
wishing I was gone, goin' home / Where the New York City winters
aren't bleedin' me / leadin' me / going home." This makes it pretty
clear he was in New York City.
Artie Wayne wrote:
> Phil...How ya'doin'? Paul Simon's lyric to "The Boxer" talks about
> the whores on 7th Ave., not 2nd Ave. I remember when Jerry Landis
> (as I knew him then) wrote it. We used to have lunch near one of
> their favorite corners.
Phil Milstein:
Always love your stories, Artie. But, I must have wads of cotton
where my ears are supposed to be. SEVENTH Avenue, you say? Sure nuff, there's PLENTY of whores there. To quote Roseanne Rosanadanna,
"Never mind."
Bob Rashkow:
Actually "whores" is correct, but I think the street referred to is
"7th Avenue", which makes more sense--much closer to the Hudson.
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Message: 19
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 19:13:37 -0800
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: When cousins, identical cousins ...
Long ago I read somewhere that Arthur Lee and Johnny Mathis were
first cousins. Anyone know if there's anything to this? They
sorta look alike, or at least are of roughly the same complexion,
and I believe both are originally from Memphis.
Phil M.
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