________________________________________________________________________ SPECTROPOP - Spectacular! Retro! Pop! ________________________________________________________________________ There are 8 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Trade Martin; Dion From: "Michael Edwards" 2. Re: Classically inspired pop From: Phil X Milstein 3. Re: The Way Of Love From: Simon White 4. Re: Trade Martin From: Various 5. Re: Vogues From: Mikey 6. Re: Pirkle Lee Moses From: Simon White 7. Steve & Eydies record label From: Frank Jastfelder 8. Re: C&W & R&B From: Phil Hall ________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 18:34:23 -0000 From: "Michael Edwards" Subject: Trade Martin; Dion Phil writes - >I've heard the name Trade Martin many times here and there over >the years, but don't know anything concrete about him other than >that he wrote the sublime "Take Me For A Little While." .....Does >anyone know if he ever recorded his own version of "Take Me ..."? Hi Phil. Interesting that you should post something about Trade Martin. I can't help you with "Take Me For A Little While" but, as a performer, he had an earlier hit with "That Starnger Used To Be My Girl" on Coed. This recording is a natural for the Dion soundalike section of your Probe website. It's available, along with some other of his Coed sides, on the UK Ace CD, "The Coed Records Story". Another possible addition is "Heart Breaker" by Dean Christie (Select, 1962), recently out on another UK Ace CD, "Teenage Crush – Vol 4". This recording is to Dion, as the Knickerbockers' "Lies" is to the Beatles. "The Coed Records Story" features tracks by Trade Martin, the Duprees, the Crests and others but none by one of their biggest hit makers, Adam Wade. I guess Adam must have taken his Coed masters with him to Epic when he transferred labels in late'62/early'63. A pity because his material in the hands of the people at Ace is an uplifting thought for a Tuesday afternoon. Mike Edwards -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 12:35:48 -0800 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Re: Classically inspired pop Will Stos wrote: > I've been searching the old Spectropop threads and saw numerous > posts on pop songs that have adapted classical melodies or > "lifted them". I was wondering if anyone has come across a web > site that has tried to list them all, if any music historian has > written anything on the subject, and if any CDs have compiled > these songs since the group last dicussed them. Ostin Allegro's "Pop Meets The Classics" might be just what the Will ordered: http://www.allegro.philharmonic.me.uk . The presentation is in a simple spreadsheet format, listing, in chron. order, "pop title and artist," source "composer and work," and a "comments" box in which Mr. Allegro identifies some surprising swipes, while dispelling rumors of others. I haven't stopped to count how many items he's got listed on the site, but there are a LOT. > If nothing is out there, might I suggest that an enterprising > Spectropopper or two take this project on? I'd be happy to > help, but I'm afraid I don't know much about this genre. I've got the beginnings of just such a thing in the works, hence my having located the aforementioned website. If anyone would like to collaborate with me on a "pop meets the classics" compilation project, please contact me offlist. Dig, --Phil -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 17:45:06 +0000 From: Simon White Subject: Re: The Way Of Love The recent discussion of Kathy Kirby suddenly brought to mind that Bobby Sheen had covered "The Way Of Love" on Capitol. The (actually better) flip of the 45 is "The Shelter Of Your Arms," which I believe was originally done by Sammy Davis Jnr. I don't believe either side has appeared on CD, so when my currently unusable technology allows it, I will "play them to musica" as they say. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 10:00:22 -0700 From: Various Subject: Re: Trade Martin A veritable cornucopia of replies to Phil Milstein's question about Trade Martin: > I've heard the name Trade Martin many times here and > there over the years, but don't know anything concrete > about him other than that he wrote the sublime "Take Me > For A Little While." ----- Gary Myers: Ah, then you missed his own 1962 hit, "That Stranger Used To Be My Girl", much in the style of "Runarond Sue", and one of the rare pop/rock songs with a tuba solo. I think Martin was mostly involved in studio work, and he wrote a book about breaking into the profession, which I may still have here somewhere. ----- Dave Feldman: I think this article will help: http://www.nybluesandjazz.org/reviews/tmartin.htm ----- Joop Jansen: I know Trade Martin recorded his own version of "Take Me For A Little While" in 1971 on a Buddah album (BDS 5126). See: http://www.bsnpubs.com/buddah/buddaha.html He also has recorded with Al Gorgoni and Chip Taylor as Gorgoni, Martin & Taylor. They had an album called "Gotta Bet Back To Cisco" also on Buddah (BDS 5089), and one called "Gorgoni, Martin & Taylor" also on Buddah (BDS 5113). He even has an own website: http://www.trademartinmusic.com/bio.html Also see: http://www.spectropop.com/archive/digest/m873.html ----- David Walker: Trade Martin's own version of "Take Me for A Little While" is available on the 1972 Buddah album "Let Me Touch You". At the same time he released two albums with the team of Gorgoni, Martin & Taylor (Al Gorgoni, Trade Martin and Chip Taylor). Tracks from these albums include their own spin on " I Can't Let Go" and "The Baby". ----- Dave Monroe: I didn't realize he was a songwriter! And that's a helluva song he wrote at that. But I did recently hear his hittin' cover of "Moanin'," and am now on the lookout. Anyone have other recommendations? ----- -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 13:04:11 -0400 From: Mikey Subject: Re: Vogues Rex Patton wrote: > Just to throw a Spaniard in the works, Hal Blaine lists > "You're The One" in his discography. Hal Blaine did not play on the original 1965 version of "You're The One." He played percussion on the Reprise overdub sessions in 1968, when Dick Glasser added strings and and orchestra to "You're The One," "5 O'Clock World" and "Magic Town." -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 18:22:43 +0000 From: Simon White Subject: Re: Pirkle Lee Moses Country Paul wrote: > Is Lee Moses the same person as Pirkle Lee Moses, lead > singer of The El Dorados? I don't believe he is, but I'll make some enquiries. The El Dorados were still recording as a group at the same time as Lee Moses was recording solo and in a different style -- so I think not, but let's find out for certain! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 20:40:41 +0200 From: Frank Jastfelder Subject: Steve & Eydies record label Ho ho ho fellow 'Poppers, I know it's a little bit off-season but I'm currently working on the third Christmas compilation for the "Snow" series here in Germany and we'd like to include Steve & Eydie's "Hurry Home For Christmas," which came out only as a single on RCA as far as I know. Obviously the couple owns the rights to its recordings since they brought out a CD with their Columbia Christmas album and the single as a bonus track on their own label GL (for their initials) Records. Does anybody have an idea how to get in touch with the label? Or does anybody own the CD, which is called "That Holiday Feeling". Maybe there's a contact given. Googling didn't help that much so far. Please e-mail me off-list. Thank you very much. Santa Frank (Jastfelder) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 19:08:07 -0000 From: Phil Hall Subject: Re: C&W & R&B Rob Pingel wrote: > Good country music and soul are like fraternal twins: > different, but cut from the same cloth. Was it Lighting Slim who said "Country music is just white folks singin' the blues"? Dan Hughes wrote: > Lots of country hits were also cut R&B in Nashville in > the '60s. And not just in the '60s -- many of country > pioneer's Jimmie Rodgers' songs (he died in 1933) > were also recorded by blues artists. I have an mp3 in collection that Jimmie Rodgers recorded with Louis Armstrong, in 1928, of "Standing On The Corner (Blue Yodel #9)". Phil H. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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