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There are 8 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Trade Martin; Dion
From: "Michael Edwards"
2. Re: Classically inspired pop
From: Phil X Milstein
3. Re: The Way Of Love
From: Simon White
4. Re: Trade Martin
From: Various
5. Re: Vogues
From: Mikey
6. Re: Pirkle Lee Moses
From: Simon White
7. Steve & Eydies record label
From: Frank Jastfelder
8. Re: C&W & R&B
From: Phil Hall
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 18:34:23 -0000
From: "Michael Edwards"
Subject: Trade Martin; Dion
Phil writes -
>I've heard the name Trade Martin many times here and there over
>the years, but don't know anything concrete about him other than
>that he wrote the sublime "Take Me For A Little While." .....Does
>anyone know if he ever recorded his own version of "Take Me ..."?
Hi Phil. Interesting that you should post something about Trade
Martin. I can't help you with "Take Me For A Little While" but, as a
performer, he had an earlier hit with "That Starnger Used To Be My
Girl" on Coed. This recording is a natural for the Dion soundalike
section of your Probe website. It's available, along with some other
of his Coed sides, on the UK Ace CD, "The Coed Records Story".
Another possible addition is "Heart Breaker" by Dean Christie
(Select, 1962), recently out on another UK Ace CD, "Teenage Crush –
Vol 4". This recording is to Dion, as the Knickerbockers' "Lies" is
to the Beatles.
"The Coed Records Story" features tracks by Trade Martin, the
Duprees, the Crests and others but none by one of their biggest hit
makers, Adam Wade. I guess Adam must have taken his Coed masters with
him to Epic when he transferred labels in late'62/early'63. A pity
because his material in the hands of the people at Ace is an
uplifting thought for a Tuesday afternoon.
Mike Edwards
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 12:35:48 -0800
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Re: Classically inspired pop
Will Stos wrote:
> I've been searching the old Spectropop threads and saw numerous
> posts on pop songs that have adapted classical melodies or
> "lifted them". I was wondering if anyone has come across a web
> site that has tried to list them all, if any music historian has
> written anything on the subject, and if any CDs have compiled
> these songs since the group last dicussed them.
Ostin Allegro's "Pop Meets The Classics" might be just what the Will
ordered: http://www.allegro.philharmonic.me.uk . The presentation is in
a simple spreadsheet format, listing, in chron. order, "pop title and
artist," source "composer and work," and a "comments" box in which Mr.
Allegro identifies some surprising swipes, while dispelling rumors of
others. I haven't stopped to count how many items he's got listed on the
site, but there are a LOT.
> If nothing is out there, might I suggest that an enterprising
> Spectropopper or two take this project on? I'd be happy to
> help, but I'm afraid I don't know much about this genre.
I've got the beginnings of just such a thing in the works, hence my
having located the aforementioned website. If anyone would like to
collaborate with me on a "pop meets the classics" compilation project,
please contact me offlist.
Dig,
--Phil
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 17:45:06 +0000
From: Simon White
Subject: Re: The Way Of Love
The recent discussion of Kathy Kirby suddenly brought to mind that
Bobby Sheen had covered "The Way Of Love" on Capitol. The (actually
better) flip of the 45 is "The Shelter Of Your Arms," which I believe
was originally done by Sammy Davis Jnr. I don't believe either side
has appeared on CD, so when my currently unusable technology allows
it, I will "play them to musica" as they say.
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 10:00:22 -0700
From: Various
Subject: Re: Trade Martin
A veritable cornucopia of replies to Phil Milstein's question
about Trade Martin:
> I've heard the name Trade Martin many times here and
> there over the years, but don't know anything concrete
> about him other than that he wrote the sublime "Take Me
> For A Little While."
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Gary Myers:
Ah, then you missed his own 1962 hit, "That Stranger Used To Be
My Girl", much in the style of "Runarond Sue", and one of the rare
pop/rock songs with a tuba solo.
I think Martin was mostly involved in studio work, and he wrote a book
about breaking into the profession, which I may still have here somewhere.
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Dave Feldman:
I think this article will help:
http://www.nybluesandjazz.org/reviews/tmartin.htm
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Joop Jansen:
I know Trade Martin recorded his own version of "Take Me For A
Little While" in 1971 on a Buddah album (BDS 5126). See:
http://www.bsnpubs.com/buddah/buddaha.html
He also has recorded with Al Gorgoni and Chip Taylor as Gorgoni,
Martin & Taylor. They had an album called "Gotta Bet Back To Cisco"
also on Buddah (BDS 5089), and one called "Gorgoni, Martin & Taylor"
also on Buddah (BDS 5113).
He even has an own website:
http://www.trademartinmusic.com/bio.html
Also see:
http://www.spectropop.com/archive/digest/m873.html
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David Walker:
Trade Martin's own version of "Take Me for A Little While" is available
on the 1972 Buddah album "Let Me Touch You". At the same time he
released two albums with the team of Gorgoni, Martin & Taylor (Al
Gorgoni, Trade Martin and Chip Taylor). Tracks from these albums
include their own spin on " I Can't Let Go" and "The Baby".
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Dave Monroe:
I didn't realize he was a songwriter! And that's a helluva song he wrote
at that. But I did recently hear his hittin' cover of "Moanin'," and am
now on the lookout. Anyone have other recommendations?
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 13:04:11 -0400
From: Mikey
Subject: Re: Vogues
Rex Patton wrote:
> Just to throw a Spaniard in the works, Hal Blaine lists
> "You're The One" in his discography.
Hal Blaine did not play on the original 1965 version of "You're The
One." He played percussion on the Reprise overdub sessions in 1968,
when Dick Glasser added strings and and orchestra to "You're The
One," "5 O'Clock World" and "Magic Town."
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 18:22:43 +0000
From: Simon White
Subject: Re: Pirkle Lee Moses
Country Paul wrote:
> Is Lee Moses the same person as Pirkle Lee Moses, lead
> singer of The El Dorados?
I don't believe he is, but I'll make some enquiries. The El Dorados
were still recording as a group at the same time as Lee Moses was
recording solo and in a different style -- so I think not, but let's
find out for certain!
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 20:40:41 +0200
From: Frank Jastfelder
Subject: Steve & Eydies record label
Ho ho ho fellow 'Poppers,
I know it's a little bit off-season but I'm currently working on the
third Christmas compilation for the "Snow" series here in Germany and
we'd like to include Steve & Eydie's "Hurry Home For Christmas," which
came out only as a single on RCA as far as I know. Obviously the couple
owns the rights to its recordings since they brought out a CD with
their Columbia Christmas album and the single as a bonus track on their
own label GL (for their initials) Records. Does anybody have an idea
how to get in touch with the label? Or does anybody own the CD, which
is called "That Holiday Feeling". Maybe there's a contact given. Googling
didn't help that much so far.
Please e-mail me off-list.
Thank you very much.
Santa Frank (Jastfelder)
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 19:08:07 -0000
From: Phil Hall
Subject: Re: C&W & R&B
Rob Pingel wrote:
> Good country music and soul are like fraternal twins:
> different, but cut from the same cloth.
Was it Lighting Slim who said "Country music is just white folks
singin' the blues"?
Dan Hughes wrote:
> Lots of country hits were also cut R&B in Nashville in
> the '60s. And not just in the '60s -- many of country
> pioneer's Jimmie Rodgers' songs (he died in 1933)
> were also recorded by blues artists.
I have an mp3 in collection that Jimmie Rodgers recorded with Louis
Armstrong, in 1928, of "Standing On The Corner (Blue Yodel #9)".
Phil H.
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