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There are 17 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Keith's "I Can't Go Wrong"
From: S.J. Dibai
2. Re: Teardrops explode
From: Phil X Milstein
3. Los Caireles
From: Christopher Bentley
4. Jerry Moss
From: Mike Rashkow
5. Raveonettes
From: Country Paul
6. Re: "The Way Of Love"
From: Mark Maldwyn
7. Re: new Monkees book
From: Clark Besch
8. Re: Why "When"?
From: Peter Lerner
9. Whipped Cream and other Giacomoli
From: Clark Besch
10. Re: "Midnight Sun"
From: Eddy
11. Re: welcome Big Al
From: Phil X Milstein
12. Re: Soul radio
From: Frank M
13. Re: Mike Curb and Elvis
From: Clark Besch
14. Poor Boys/Over the Hill and Down in the Valley
From: Bob
15. Teardrops - Trefzger - Saxony
From: Rex Strother
16. J C Livingstone
From: David Walker
17. 60sgaragebands.com June Updates
From: Mike Dugo
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 20:36:48 -0000
From: S.J. Dibai
Subject: Keith's "I Can't Go Wrong"
Greetings, fellow S'Poppers. I'm working on a Philadelphia music
project, so I'll be asking you all some Philly questions in the
next few weeks. To start off:
It looks like Keith's "I Can't Go Wrong" is a favorite of slightly
adventurous oldies deejays these days, but did it become a hit of
any kind in the '60s? A regional success, perhaps?
I wonder also about the release info. The liner notes to Keith's
"Ain't Gonna Lie" CD claim this track was issued as the B-side of
"Tell Me To My Face," while TOP POP SINGLES 1955-1999 lists "Pretty
Little Shy One" instead. I know the latter sometimes misses alternate
B-sides, so is this one of those cases? Also, someone posted a message
on Keith's website claiming to have found a promo single of "There's
Always Tomorrow" with "I Can't Go Wrong" on the B-side--a single that
is not mentioned at all in the "Ain't Gonna Lie" CD liners. Any info?
Said fan suspected that the mono single version of "Wrong" had some
parts that were mixed out of the stereo version, but Keith himself
wasn't sure either way. Can any of you say for sure? And if there
is indeed a difference, which version is on the compilation "Yo!
Philadelphia Look What I Found"? I have a stereo mix on the "Ain't"
CD.
Thanks,
S.J. Dibai
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 12:35:35 -0800
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Re: Teardrops explode
John Black wrote:
> There's a great CD of the Teardrops' output for sale online.
> Highly recommended.
The 'online' John refers to would be the website of Saxony Records,
at http://www.saxonyrecordcompany.com . Last I checked Paul Trefzger,
the power behind the Teardrops and Saxony thrones, was expecting
arrival of a revised version of the CD any day now. In fact, it's
probably in by now, and I believe he may have been doing some other
new CDs at the same time, as well.
Saxony's website is a bit slow to update, so I suggest writing Paul
directly, at the e-m link provided at the site.
Dig,
--Phil M.
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 16:13:29 -0000
From: Christopher Bentley
Subject: Los Caireles
Dear All @ 'Spectropop',
Just the other day I happened to be in a nearby town that I
don't really have much call to visit too often. So, I thought
I'd make the most of being there by indulging in my favourite
pastime of visiting the charity shops there to see what bargain
vinyl I could pick up. One of the items I encountered was an EP
by a Spanish group by the name of Los Caireles, featuring the
tracks Maruxina Mia, Donde Esta Mi Sonrisa (Where Is My Smile),
Que Le Pasa Al Mundo and Vuelvo A Castilla, on the Berta label
(No. F.M. 68 - 118). I had no idea what it'd sound like but I
thought it'd be fun to try it out for the 'princely' sum of
29p! After all, I have had a pleasant surprise in the past with
Los Diablos' Un Rayo De Sol, the flip, Una Manana being an especial
revelation - a record I picked up for a basically nominal amount
at a local village fete. I wasn't disappointed, since the second
and fourth of those tracks were seriously funky (in a James Brown
sort of vein) and eminently danceable.
Performing searches on the Web all I seem to come up with are a
couple of offers of the said record, one at £1.00 and another at
EUR1.00 and I'm wondering if anybody out there in 'Spectropop-Land'
would know any more about this group and even who they were.
For the purposes of illustration,I have uploaded images of both
the front and rear covers of the Los Caireles E.P.
Thanking you in anticipation.
Yours,
Chris Bentley.
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 21:08:41 EDT
From: Mike Rashkow
Subject: Jerry Moss
Maybe I missed it--that must be the fact--because it seems
impossible that there hasn't been at least one post about
the fact that Jerry Moss--co founder of A&M Records--bred
and owns the winner of this year's Kentucky Derby.
In case it has been overlooked, the horse, "Giacomo", who
is named for Sting's son, accomplished that pinnacle of
Thoughrobred racing two weeks ago, but finished 3rd in
todays' Preakness.
NBC had a short interview with Moss during which he mentioned
that he is re-releasing Whipped Cream, the record that broke
that label open and changed the look of album covers forever.
I suggest that PhilX make that cover a feature. Interestingly,
Moss keeps in touch with the girl who modeled that cover--
"Delores" and said she lives in Seattle. I'll be leaving
for Seattle in the AM.
Di la,
Rashkovsky
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 01:03:22 -0400
From: Country Paul
Subject: Raveonettes
I'm hearing 20-to-30-second samples on their website,
http://www.raveonettes.com
Is this album as good as it sounds?!? Wow....
Country Paul
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 18:05:37 -0000
From: Mark Maldwyn
Subject: Re: "The Way Of Love"
Gary Myers wrote:
> I've always wondered why neither Kirby's or Cher's didn't
> make a simple lyric change to avoid the gay implication.
> The whole song sounds like a woman giving advice to
> another woman ("when you meet a boy," etc.), but ends with
> "what will you do when he sets you free, the way that *YOU*
> said goodbye to me."
Andrea Ogarrio:
> No lyric change needed. It seems to me that the song is sung
> from the point of view of a mother to a daughter who has left
> the nest.
Apart from being one of the most popular singers in the UK and
a gay icon, Kathy Kirby became a gay role model when she came
out to the UK press in the early 70s - this was front page news
at the time. Perhaps this had an early influence on her
interpretation of "The Way of Love"?
Mark M
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 05:23:00 -0000
From: Clark Besch
Subject: Re: new Monkees book
Andrew Sandoval wrote:
> Hello Spectropop people, Andrew Sandoval here. Fifteen years
> in the making, my book on The Monkees will finally be available
> in the U.S. on July 5 (and a bit sooner in the UK). It covers
> the group's day-by-day activities from 1965 to 1970, including
> breakdowns of all their recording sessions with musician listings,
> plus my interviews with Neil Diamond, Neil Sedaka, Boyce & Hart,
> all four Monkees and many more.
Andrew, this books sounds great to me!! I had the good fortune
of helping a little with a similar book on Jeff beck day by day
done by my friend Doug Hinman. He also co-wrote a similar day
by day book on the Kinks. While people are waiting for Andrew's
book and want to see what these books can be like, check these
two books out at http://www.rocknrollresearchpress.com/
Please keep us updated on your book!
Clark
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 08:32:16 +0100
From: Peter Lerner
Subject: Re: Why "When"?
Phil asked:
> Why did Jackie DeShannon name her song "When You Walk
> In The Room", instead of "Everytime That You Walk In
> The Room"? The lyrics include the latter phrasing
> approximately half a dozen times (depending on version),
> while the title phrasing doesn't appear even once. I think
> maybe she was trying to pull a fast one on us!
Good question, Phil, and I would suspect that she felt that
ETTYWITR was just too long for people to remember, or for
Billboard to find space for in their Hot 100.
However this consideration didn't trouble one Lolita Jackson,
who put "Every Time You Walk In The Room" into the country music
charts in March 1989 (Oak 1069). This is one of the very few
versions of Jackie's song that I have never heard, and if any
Spectropopper can either locate or record a copy for me, then
please contact me off-S'pop and I'll be very grateful.
Peter
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 13:20:37 -0000
From: Clark Besch
Subject: Whipped Cream and other Giacomoli
Hi, did anyone else see the Preakness "pre-race" stuff saturday?
I hadn't realized that the Kentucky Derby's winner, "Giacomo",
was owned by former co-owner of A&M records, Jerry Moss! It was
really pretty funny to see Bob Costas interviewing Mr. Moss.
They were talking about the race and out Costas comes with a
framed copy of Herb Alpert's "Whipped Cream & Other Delights"
and asks Moss if he will have Herb sign it the next time he sees
him, commenting that it is his own 40 year old record!
However, Bob more importantly wanted to know "where's the girl
now" (referring to the cover)? Jerry responded that last he
knew she was in Seattle. Bob commented that the cover was
rather provocative back then (obviously, Bob had as much fun
ogling that cover as the rest of us did). Another surprising
moment of music entwined with sports! Now, if only Paul Mauriat
or Nancy Sinatra will start racing horses, Bob can pull those
LPs out too!
Speaking of other delights, I'm looking for 3 songs in stereo
only and wondering if anyone has these in stereo in their
collection? They are:
Someone To Love You by Jimmy & The Velvets
This Time The Dream's On Me by Anthony Newley
Image, Pts. 1 & 2 by Hank Levine Orchestra
If you do, please contact me offlist.
Thanks!
Clark
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 10:07:49 +0200
From: Eddy
Subject: Re: "Midnight Sun"
Gary Myers:
> "Midnight Sun" is a great song, and probably the only one
> to use "aurora borealis" in a rhyme.
Does Carole King's Chalice Borealis count ?
Eddy
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 20:20:49 -0800
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Re: welcome Big Al
Al Pavlow wrote:
> ... This info comes from a book I'm about to publish called
> "Pro-Files" (discogs of producers, writers, etc.). Anyone
> interested in more info and hype re: this book, feel free to
> e-mail me for details.
Welcome, Al, and I hope we can count on hearing your "voice" on
at least a SEMI-regular basis. I know you've got a terrific
reputation as a music collector and archivist, and so trust that
the research for your book will be virtually impeccable, but I
think we'd ALL like to hear a bit more about it, for instance the
book's range and depth of coverage, whether it includes illustrations
(and if so of what type), how many pages it runs, how much $ it'll
sell for, etc.
Best wishes,
--Phil Milstein
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 01:55:46 +0100
From: Frank M
Subject: Re: Soul radio
Simon White:
> "But let me recommend these instead:
> Paddy Grady, at http://northernsoulradio.co.uk
> On a loop so you can listen when you like.
> Northern Soul Radio with Frank Murphy, Saturday afternoon
> at 2:30pm (BST) http://www.radiomagnetic.com
Thank you Simon for the mention. You can listen anytime to an
archived show by heading for www.radiomagnetic.com clicking on
ARCHIVES then REFLECTIONS and then selecting one of the 22 shows
available.
Frank M
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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 14:53:37 -0000
From: Clark Besch
Subject: Re: Mike Curb and Elvis
Country Paul wrote:
> I have Sam Fletcher's "Tall Hope" on RCA ... but I know
> nothing else about him ...
Gary Myers:
> Around '67. when we (Portraits) were signed to Mike Curb,
> our producer, Clancy Grass, had some involvement with a
> Fletcher release. My recollection is that Clancy made some
> reference to Fletcher having a drug problem that seriously
> affected his career.
Gary, I'm kinda surprised tha Mike Curb did not have a bigger
impact on the music industry in 67 and 68. When he was on Bandstand
to promote his new group the Clingers, it was hard to tell who he
was promoting--the girls or himself! Dick Clark kept saying that
Curb was going to be the biggest music businessman in the industry.
Basically it seemed like Clark was grooming him as the "new Dick
Clark"! Curb was 100% confident that this group was going to be
huge. I've never seen a time when the promoter/manager got such
a spotlight promoting a group BEFORE they were famous. Even the
Beatles' Brian Epstein never got the pub until they were popular.
SO, Gary, I am wondering if Mike tried to promote you as heavily as
he did the Clingers? Did he get you top gigs, or was he just getting
started? He was quite young to be getting Clark's praise like that,
I thought. If Colonel Parker had seen that, he'd have wanted to come
on WITHOUT Elvis to promote Elvis!
Speaking of Elvis, did anyone watch the Elvis movie or the Priscilla
home movies shows? I liked the Elvis movie ok, since I did not know
some of the stuff. Not sure I liked the actor so well. He seemed
like he worked awful hard to get the lip thing. On "If I Can Dream",
it might have been technically close to the Elvis 68 performance, BUT
the problem was it was technical. He seemed to be trying to shape
his mouth, rather than sweat and belt out a heartfelt performance
like the King did. Kinda odd that "If I Can Dream" sparked his career
comeback, when the 45 released just a couple months before that, "A
Little Less Conversation", would re-launch his career in the 2000s!
The Priscilla home movie show was GREAT! So good to hear from
the REAL Presleys. Much much better, even if it seldom dealt
with family problems that there were. What did y'all think?
Clark
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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 15:03:22 -0000
From: Bob
Subject: Poor Boys/Over the Hill and Down in the Valley
I was a member of the Poor Boys. The song was written by
John Herring as he was walking up and down the hilly streets
in San Francisco. We had nothing to do with Rare Earth. The
group was in existence until 1965. I think the songs were
recorded in 1963 or 1964 by studio musicians. We were the
House band at PJ's in Santa Monica, CA and played at clubs
in Las Vegas and San Francisco. Does anyone know where I can
get a copy of the 45?
Bob
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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 16:24:53 -0000
From: Rex Strother
Subject: Teardrops - Trefzger - Saxony
I've had the good fortune to make friends by email with Paul Trefzger,
talk to him, meet him and help him update the Saxony website at
http://www.saxonyrecordcompany.com
Lots of pictures and a great story there; all might dig it. Not to
mention new releases of The Teardrops CD, Rollie Willis and The
Contenders CD/EP, and a 2-CD Saxony Vaults collection all recently
released.
In addition to keeping the Saxony label music available, Paul also
co-produces CD reissues of "Interlude Era" pop singers (1948-1954) for
Jasmine Records in the UK, including recently releases of Richard
Hayes and Ben Light, and future releases of Toni Arden and Frances Faye.
The man boasts a crazy collection of over 14,000 45s (not counting
78s, LPs, CDs and whatnot). He is a man who loves his music and if
you want to chat with him, he doesn't post at Spectropop but you can
email me offlist for his home email. Feel free to say "hello" and
talk music with the guy.
Rex
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Message: 16
Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 07:11:47 +0930
From: David Walker
Subject: J C Livingstone
Hi,
I originally put the following query to the group a couple of
years ago. If anyone can help with some info I'd be grateful.
Both Flash Cadillac and the Continental Kids and J.C.
Livingstone had a hit with Did You Boogie With Your Baby?.
J.C.Livingstone "Did You Boogie With Your Baby" Wizard
ZS-158 Written and Produced by Rod McQueen
Flash Cadillac et al., "Did You Boogie (With Your Baby)
Private Stock PVT 11125.
Who is Rod McQueen, and is J.C.Livingstone the same
person? I know that Rod McQueen had some writing credits
with Daniel Boone (aka Peter Lee Stirling/Peter Green)
but I have never been able to access any info on him.
Any ideas? Thanks.
David Walker
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Message: 17
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 05:53:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mike Dugo
Subject: 60sgaragebands.com June Updates
The June updates to 60sgaragebands.com are now online. Featured this
month are 1) the recollections of John Castellano of New York's
Peck's Bad Boys, best remembered for the garage meets soul "Crazy
World" single and their soundtrack contribution to a B-movie; 2) An
interviews with Bill Yergin of The Rainbow Press, whose late '60's LP
is highly rated by many; and 3) Interviews with four members of Stark
Naked & The Car Thieves, the Indiana / California / Las Vegas band
that mixed garage with showmanship. Check it out at
http://www.60sgaragebands.com
Mike Dugo
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