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There are 13 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Obscure David/Bacharach
From: Ken Silverwood
2. The UK Frankie Valli and The Four Seasons Collectors group Newsletter Nr 44
From: Ken Charmer
3. The Bubblegum Machine on Senate Records
From: Paul Urbahns
4. Re: Rock & Roll Heaven Lyrics
From: Alan O'Day
5. Beatles Picture Sleeves
From: Unsteady Freddie
6. Larry Bright
From: Gary Myers
7. Big John
From: Skip Woolwine
8. The Songs Of Lori Burton & Pam Sawyer
From: Mick Patrick
9. Re: The Songs Of Lori Burton & Pam Sawyer
From: John Black
10. Re: Bob Dylan, Hit Songwriter
From: Einar Einarsson Kvaran
11. Re: The Songs Of Lori Burton & Pam Sawyer
From: Peter Lerner
12. Front Porch update; Phil II; Oldies Radio; "different" versions; "El Cid"; Jeff Barry interview
From: Country Paul
13. Re: The Songs Of Lori Burton & Pam Sawyer
From: Will Stos
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:14:10 +0100
From: Ken Silverwood
Subject: Obscure David/Bacharach
Further to Mike Edwards on Bacharach-David Popcorn titles:
I find Dean Barlow's "Third Window From The Right" does it for me.
Ken On The West Coast
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:32:27 +0200
From: Ken Charmer
Subject: The UK Frankie Valli and The Four Seasons Collectors group Newsletter Nr 44
Hi Spectropoppers
Just to let you all know that the latest Newsletter Nr 44 is
available free to download in pdf format at:
http://www.seasonally.co.uk/collectors.htm
It features the latest in our Bob Crewe research and this continues
covering the period from 1958 to 1970.
We need some help with questions about some artists/tracks and here
are some you may be able to help us with.
1. Ginny Arnell recorded with Bob Crewe on at least two singles that
we know of:
"Troubles Back In Town"/"I'm Crying Too" Label?
"No One Cares"/"My Tribute to You" Warwick 671
But did she do any other tracks with Bobs involvement?
2. Bernadette Carroll recorded "Nicky" with Bob Crewe and the Seasons
but did she do any other tracks with Bob?
3. Jean Thomas is helping us research her appearances on background
vocals as part of our attempt to get all of her songs. Some argue
she was part of the Ramblettes on:
"Girls Cry Faster Than Boys"
"I Cant Go Through It Again"
"On Backstreet"
"Thinking Of You"
But can anyone confirm this.
Finally, who are the backing singers on Chollie Mays version of "Cry
To Me"? It could be the Angels and again Jean Thomas sounds like one
of the vocalists.
Any information would be appreciated.
Ken Charmer
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:41:36 -0400
From: Paul Urbahns
Subject: The Bubblegum Machine on Senate Records
I am looking for the album by a group called The Bubblegum Machine
which was on Senate Records. As far as I know this label only had two
LP releases, one by a group called The Good & Plenty which I have.
If you have The Bubblegumn Machine please email me privately.
Thanks!
Paul Urbahns
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:53:56 -0000
From: Alan O'Day
Subject: Re: Rock & Roll Heaven Lyrics
John Fox:
> Since the first verse included a "Jimi" (Hendrix) and a "Jim"
> (Morrison), and since no one called Jim Croce "Jimmy", did you ever
> consider anyone else for that verse (or perhaps referring to him
> as "Croce" which at least fit the meter)?
Well, I remember struggling a bit with so many "Jims", but I never
considered "Croce" as a lyric. Not a particularly singable word. We
just relied on the "...Leroy Brown" quote lyric to set up who we were
referring to.
Remind me to renew my poetic license!
Thanks,
AO
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:18:41 -0000
From: Unsteady Freddie
Subject: Beatles Picture Sleeves
YESTERDAY, all my troubles seemed so far away.....
3 pages of AMERICAN 45 RPM "BEATLES" Picture Sleeves
For your viewing pleasure:
http://www.readyunsteadygo.com
DIG IT!
Unsteady Freddie
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 02:44:21 -0700
From: Gary Myers
Subject: Larry Bright
Bryan:
> There are at least two Spectropoppers on this list who used to work
> for Del-Fi in the 90s, myself and one other person.
Bryan, have you heard anything about Larry Bright having died? Or, do
you know who might know about that?
gem
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:23:46 -0500
From: Skip Woolwine
Subject: Big John
There are some secret tapes out there (which I have heard myself) of
Patti Page, and Jimmy Dean himself, each doing "Alternate" takes of
Big John, using the original backing tracks. To quote the student
council courtroom scene in the film "Animal House" : "Decorum
prevents me from detailing them here" -- Niedermeier
Skip Woolwine
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:01:47 +0100
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: The Songs Of Lori Burton & Pam Sawyer
I find myself still engrossed in the songs of Lori Burton & Pam
Sawyer. I've taken a crack at compiling a list - see below. The
chances of it being complete are slim. Can anyone add to it, I
wonder? Hope so.
Other than those used on her LP cover, has anyone ever seen any
photos of the luscious Lori?
Recorded versions of the songs of Lori Burton & Pam Sawyer:
All Or Nothing Patti LaBelle & the Blue Belles
All You Gotta Do The Smith Girls, Candy & the Kisses
Baby Let's Wait The Young Rascals, the Royal Guardsmen (+ others)
Baby You've Got Me Prince Harold, the Sapphires
Bad Apple Pilgrimage
Bye Bye Charlie Lori Burton
Forget About Me Prince Harold, Chuck Jackson, Denny Belline
Gotta Get Over You Lori Burton
Gotta Make You Love Me Lori Burton
I Ain't Gonna Eat Out My Heart Anymore The Young Rascals (+ others)
I Give In The Lazy Susans
I Got My Needs No Deposit No Return
I'll Cry Later Patty & the Emblems
If I Had You Babe The Millionaires
If You Love Me The Lazy Susans
It Won't Hurt The O'Jays
Let No One Come Between Us Whyte Boots (Lori Burton)
Like One Jean Carter
Love Was Lori Burton
Nightmare The White Boots (Lori Burton), the Jaye Triplets
One Sweet Kiss Candy & the Kisses
Only Your Love Lori Burton
Since I Lost Your Lovin' Lori Burton
Slow Fizz The Sapphires
Stand By And Cry Jan Panter, Betty Turner
That Boy Ain't No Good Jean Carter
The Hurt Won't Go Away Lori Burton
There Is No Way (To Stop Lovin' You) Lori Burton
Together Candy & the Kisses
Try To Understand Cindy Malone, Lulu
Why Can't I Love Her/You The Chosen Few
Why Can't I Love Him Jacki Bond
You Satisfy Me Pilgrimage
You Satisfy My Needs Big Dee Irwin
Your Love Is My Love No Deposit No Return
Hey la,
Mick Patrick
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:14:53 EDT
From: John Black
Subject: Re: The Songs Of Lori Burton & Pam Sawyer
Mick Patrick wrote:
> I find myself still engrossed in the songs of Lori Burton & Pam
> Sawyer. I've taken a crack at compiling a list - see below. The
> chances of it being complete are slim. Can anyone add to it, I
> wonder? Hope so. Other than those used on her LP cover, has anyone
> ever seen any photos of the luscious Lori?
This is a distant memory, but I recall an add from The Big Reel,
nearly 20 years ago, that offered a 16mm print of some lesser-known
1960's music TV show that listed Lori Burton as a performer. I
considered buying it, but didn't. I don't recall the name of the
show, nor do I recall who the other artists were (I think that the
other artists were bigger names, but that's all that I remember). I
hadn't heard of the show itself; it wasn't SHINDIG or HULLABALOO, if
memory serves.
John Black
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:29:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: Einar Einarsson Kvaran
Subject: Re: Bob Dylan, Hit Songwriter
Phil M. asked:
> Does anyone know if a list of hit cover versions of Dylan's songs
> exists anywhere?
Doug Richard:
> Try this: http://www.bjorner.com/Covers.htm . It can be sorted by
> either artist or song title. I'll bet that there is going to be a
> lot more of them than you thought!
A great list - but three years old. Doesn't have, for example Warren
Zevon's most heartbreaking of all versions of "Knockin' At Heaven's
Door."
Einar
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:51:27 +0100
From: Peter Lerner
Subject: Re: The Songs Of Lori Burton & Pam Sawyer
Mick:
> I find myself still engrossed in the songs of Lori Burton & Pam
> Sawyer. I've taken a crack at compiling a list - see below. The
> chances of it being complete are slim. Can anyone add to it, I
> wonder? Hope so.
Another version of "All Or Nothing" by Marcie and the Cookies,
Australian Columbia 8527.
Do I get a mention on the liner notes for that?
Peter
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 01:04:54 -0400
From: Country Paul
Subject: Front Porch update; Phil II; Oldies Radio; "different" versions; "El Cid"; Jeff Barry interview
Front Porch update: Marc Scott e-mailed to tell me a post-Front Porch
45 he co-wrote and -played with the late Charlie Purpura is on eBay -
with a minimum bid of $100.00. From the listing:
> The Living End - "SHEEP" - Heavy & Rare NYC Psych
> Item number: 4737507099
> ...Sheep/You Ain't No Friend Of Mine, DiVenus 104. Heavy,
> primative Psych on the obscure DiVenus label out of NYC. "Sheep"
> is a monster. A great hippie put down of conformity. Hear it on
> the CD "For A Few Fuzz Guitars More" The flip is not a cover of
> the Sparkles tune but it's good.
Marc added: "This was a surprise, a hundred bucks for "Sheep"! I
still have a copy or two, but also have a copy that Charlie put on
CD....I think it was released around 1966 or '67, but I'm not 100%
sure. Not to difficult to find out. It was produced by Tony Sansone,
one of the writers of "Walk Away Renee" and Ward Roban, a booking
agent who once booked us into the opening of the Crystal Room, the
first topless nightclub in NYC. We wanted to kill him....I also found
my old Johnny B. Scott record with a $12.00 reserve and a few months
ago, I was sent an email that the Front Porch was also up for
bidding. Look out, we're gonna be big!" Marc adds: "I've just got a
production deal to do an album, so hopefully I'll get back to doing
what I do do best." I'll keep you posted....
Catching up again:
Mick Patrick:
> "Phil's Spectre II: Another Wall Of Soundalikes" Ace CDCHD 1059
I know fewer tracks here - in fact, only one - than I did on Volume
1. Looks like another must-have....
Joe Nelson re: Oldies Radio:
> [F]or those of us for whom [the 70s] were our formative years a
> nostalgic hole was never filled [by radio]. Just because Chuck
> Berry's only #1 was the embarrassing "My Ding-A-Ling" didn't
> automatically mean all the music sucked, and the discovery of a
> pile of 45's from the era would often serve to remind us that there
> was a great deal of great music being ignored by what was supposed
> to be its prime archivists - oldies radio.
Joe, I think many people who "like music," unless they're disco fans,
would say that much 70s popwas a bit of a wasteland - or a transition
from album rock, which was really the dominant trend in the non-disco
70s. That decade has always been a bit problematic because the schism
between Top 40 people ands "porogressive" people was so pronounced.
Personally, I got interested in pop music again when 80s DIY artists
proved that they knew how to still make good pop music with solid
credentials. I think many of us with rootrs in 50s-60s pop (at least
among folks I knew) felt similarly. But I think your entire treatise
is excellent. Thanks for the thoughtful writing and thought-provoking
reading. (And Jack FM still reeks.)
Kurt Benbenek:
> [Paul] Anka's cover choices lean toward the less-obvious side,
> though Steve Lawrence and Eydie Gorme beat him to Soundgarden's
> "Black Hole Sun" several years ago. All the arrangements are great,
> and to my ears it's not a joke album or a put-on at all.
Seriously, the Steve & Eydie "Black Hole Sun" was really good. If
this is on that level, it's worth checking out. Is there a site where
tracks can be sampled, please?
> A good pop song is a good pop song, whether it's performed in a
> hard rock setting or in a swing band mode. I wish more "seasoned"
> vocalists would follow Anka's lead and record good, off-beat
> comtemporary pop songs.
If you like perverse interpretations of classic progressive/rock
songs, check out Bruce Lash's outrageous "Prozak for Lovers" at
http://cdbaby.com/cd/prozak . Highly recommended; most tracks stand
on their own evenif you don't know the originals.
Simon White;
> ...[a] Billy Storm 45 I have, on Infinty (013), "(Love Theme From)
> El Cid" / "Don't Let Go", from1962. Hank is on the arranging/
> conducting side of things, while John ("Good Golly Miss Molly")
> Marascalco handles the production work. "El Cid" is totally
> ethereal, and sounds purely orchestral, until Billy's voice comes
> in one minute and eighteen seconds into the two minute thirty five
> second record.
John Mellencamp had a longer intro to "I Need A Lover" (1:40 or so),
but this is a remarkable treat. Had this been on a major label, I'm
certain it would have been a much bigger hit.
Deena J Canale:
> Jeff Barry interview, from the L.A. Weekly:
> http://www.laweekly.com/ink/05/29/features-sullivan2.php
What an awesome interview! It's all about how the music flows, not
who he knew along the way. Excellent. I'm envious.
Country Paul
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:04:58 -0000
From: Will Stos
Subject: Re: The Songs Of Lori Burton & Pam Sawyer
Mick Patrick wrote:
> I find myself still engrossed in the songs of Lori Burton & Pam
> Sawyer. I've taken a crack at compiling a list - see below. The
> chances of it being complete are slim. Can anyone add to it, I
> wonder? Hope so.
I found this on David Lasley's site:
http://www.davidlasley.com/BES.html
Look at the Clock (The Utopias)
This song is believed to have been written by Pam Sawyer and Lori
Burton. It would have been the fourth and final single from The
Utopias (David Lasley, Julie Lasley, Joan Hughes). Sadly, it was
never released, even though it was our best produced record. Joan
left the group to get married, my sister Julie went back to high
school and I concentrated on songwriting. "Look at the Clock's" 1967
session took place at Terra Shirma on Livernois Avenue in Detroit.
Various Motown players contributed, including either Babbit or
Jamerson on bass, Jack Ashford on percussion, the Andantes on
additional background vocals, either Dennis Coffey or Ray Monette on
guitar, and Andrew Smith on drums. It was engineered by Milan Bogden
and/or Russ or Ralph Terrana and produced by Carl Cisco and Roger
Bass.
Will : )
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