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There are 14 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Big John
From: Anthony Parsons
2. WABC AM weekly surveys
From: Unsteady Freddie
3. My most-wanted girl group CD debuts
From: John Black
4. Re: The Songs Of Lori Burton & Pam Sawyer
From: James Botticelli
5. Re: Chiffons and Kristy McNichol
From: Pres
6. Kristy McNichol
From: James Cassidy
7. Myriam Martin
From: Dave Monroe
8. Re: Chiffons and Kristy McNichol
From: Will Stos
9. The Strangeloves "from Australia"
From: Stew
10. Now playing in musica
From: Country Paul
11. Re: Chiffons and Kristy McNichol
From: Robert Pingel
12. Hugo & Luigi
From: Joop
13. Brute Force
From: Joe Nelson
14. Sharon Farley
From: Austin Roberts
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:03:21 -0500
From: Anthony Parsons
Subject: Re: Big John
Skip Woolwine:
> There are some secret tapes out there (which I have heard myself)
> of Patti Page, and Jimmy Dean himself, each doing "Alternate" takes
> of Big John, using the original backing tracks. To quote the
> student council courtroom scene in the film "Animal House":
> "Decorum prevents me from detailing them here" -- Niedermeier
Patti Page recorded a version of Big Bad John which appeared on her
Patti Page Sings The Golden Hits Of The Boys LP. Is there another,
"secret" version? And if so, why?
Quizzically,
Antone
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 02:50:40 -0000
From: Unsteady Freddie
Subject: WABC AM weekly surveys
Remember WABC AM's "Weekly Surveys"? Found this cool link - great way
to look back fondly when radio was integrated, innocent, and,
frankly, wondrous. Those were the days my friend(s). Check this out:
http://musicradio.computer.net/surveys.html Plenty of information -
lots of fun here!
Unsteady Freddie
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:31:28 EDT
From: John Black
Subject: My most-wanted girl group CD debuts
My most-wanted girl group CD debuts:
"Yes, I Did" --Valerie Mountain (from SOME PEOPLE)
"Mr. Stuck-Up"--Christine Quaite
"Here He Comes Now"--The Secrets
"Le Blue Beat"--Myriam Martin
"Whirlpool of Love"--Carol Jarvis
"Patch It Up"--Linda Scott
If any of those are available on DVD, please comment. One or two of
those might be available as boots.
Jobla
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:39:40 -0400
From: James Botticelli
Subject: Re: The Songs Of Lori Burton & Pam Sawyer
Mick:
> I find myself still engrossed in the songs of Lori Burton & Pam
> Sawyer. I've taken a crack at compiling a list - see below. The
> chances of it being complete are slim. Can anyone add to it, I
> wonder? Hope so.
For the record, Mick, I'm glad you are interested in this pursuit. I
have no doubt that one day soon you will produce a fine compilation,
complete with classy photos, of their work. Good luck! I can't think
of a song you didn't list, but I'm sure there are many and that this
very decayed floppy in the windmills of my mind have nothing but good
associations with 45's I've seen penned by them.....
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:10:58 -0400
From: Pres
Subject: Re: Chiffons and Kristy McNichol
Will Stos wrote:
> Also while googling, I saw that the Chiffons did backing vocals for
> Kristy McNicol (or was it Kristy McCall?) on her version of "He's
> So Fine" from the 70s. Has anyone heard this track? Is it available
> on CD? Is it any good/worth searching for?
I bought this 45 when it was released thanks to a deep infatuation
with Kristy. My memory is that it was a single with Kristy AND Jimmy
McNichol - I don't know if "He's So Fine" was the b-side but it would
make sense. I can't imagine why Jimmy would be singing that
particular song. I also remember that even at that young age, I
found that version of "He's So Fine" to be horrific. Cute picture
sleeve, though. It was on RCA if memory serves me. I guess 1978 was
a banner year for TV vocalists as I remember that the other 45 I
bought that day was Cheryl Ladd's "Think It Over". Another great
picture sleeve - long may the satin baseball jacket rein!
pres
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:05:01 -0400
From: James Cassidy
Subject: Kristy McNichol
Will Stos inquired:
> Also while googling, I saw that the Chiffons did backing vocals for
> Kristy McNicol (or was it Kristy McCall?) on her version of "He's So
> Fine" from the 70s. Has anyone heard this track? Is it available on
> CD? Is it any good/worth searching for?
I was managing a record store back then (c.1977-8) and remember this
record. Kristy was a teen TV actress. The album was produced by
Phil and Mitch Margo, hence the Chiffons connection. The track (and
the rest of the LP) was a pretty flaccid affair: weak singing,
sterile production, etc. I'd say don't bother.
Jim Cassidy
P.S. On the other hand, I would recommend any- and everything by the
late, great Kirsty MacColl, whose girl-group-claim-to-fame "They
Don't Know" as immortalized by Tracey Ullman and Spectropop's own
Phil Chapman, is a master class in how to turn a TV star into a
recording star.
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:19:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Monroe
Subject: Myriam Martin
John Black mentioned:
> "Le Blue Beat"--Myriam Martin
It's been "unnoficially released" on CD on Ultra Chicks Vol. 3:
http://members.tripod.com/ye_ye_girls/reviews/ultra_03.html
Also, it's on LP on Girls in the Garage Vol. 10:
http://tinyurl.com/b2n5r
Some other info:
http://www.poparchives.com.au/feature.php?id=685
http://www.retrojeunesse60.com/myriam.martin.html
Hope that helps.
Dave M.
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 20:03:53 -0000
From: Will Stos
Subject: Re: Chiffons and Kristy McNichol
Pres wrote:
> I bought this 45 when it was released thanks to a deep infatuation
> with Kristy. My memory is that it was a single with Kristy AND
> Jimmy McNichol - I don't know if "He's So Fine" was the b-side but
> it would make sense. I can't imagine why Jimmy would be singing
> that particular song. I also remember that even at that young age,
> I found that version of "He's So Fine" to be horrific.
Hmmm, apparently it hit #70 on Cashbox. A vocalist named Jane Oliver
also had a version out at the time. I'm mostly interested in how the
backing vocals sound. The Chiffons rerecorded their own version
around the same time. Was it a faithfull cover or disco-ish?
Will : )
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 20:33:39 -0000
From: Stew
Subject: The Strangeloves "from Australia"
Best wishes to all...I just wanted to tell you how much fun it was
today for me to listen to the old song "I Want Candy" by The
Strangeloves, who were said to be from Australia, but were really all
from New York City...I think Julie Rivkind was one of the vocalists
....having been born in Brooklyn, New (Bay Ridge), I could easily
detect their Brooklyn accents..instead of saying the word "sweater",
they say "swedduh" (no "R" sound at the end)...instead of saying
"soft", they say "sawft", and instead of saying "water", they say
"wawduh"...in retrospect, it is so obvious, but still funny.
Take care all,
Stew
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:59:27 -0000
From: Country Paul
Subject: Now playing in musica
Still a week behind on reading everyone's messages, but as I was
working last night (and listen to music), I noticed some space in
musica. I took the liberty of playing to musica a couple of songs
discussed recently (I apologize if they are repeats; if so, they can
be "unplayed" when more material is ready for listening).
Brute Force's "Adam And Evening" is a "ripping" (listen, you'll hear)
miniature symphonic movement with more hooks than a fly-fisherman.
It's produced and backed by the Tokens and is probably from 1970 or
1971 (someone can correct me on this).
Hugo & Luigi's "Just Come Home" is (as I learned here) a US remake of
an Italian hit. Imagine a rock-a-ballad sung by a choir - not a
group, a choir. To my ears, it works. RCA released it in 1960.
I'm still working on getting the bugs out of my analog-to-digital
system; I've got a list of things to play to musica that I'll roll
out as soon as that happens.
I hope everyone's enjoying the summer where you are (except for our
southern hemisphere friends who are "enjoying" winter, if I'm not
mistaken).
Country Paul
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 07:28:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: Robert Pingel
Subject: Re: Chiffons and Kristy McNichol
Will Stos:
> Also while googling, I saw that the Chiffons did backing vocals for
> Kristy McNicol (or was it Kristy McCall?) on her version of "He's
> So Fine" from the 70s. Has anyone heard this track? Is it available
> on CD? Is it any good/worth searching for?
I have the single which came with a picture sleeve that depicted
Kristy and her brother Jimmy. Both were starring on prime time TV
shows at the time. Kristy is not a particularly good singer, but
makes up for it with a youthful earnestness that is rather
endearing. She does stay in tune. Jimmy couldn't sing at all, but
fortunately was left off the A-side. The record is very well
produced, and a decent re-make of the hit. The background vocals are
excellent. Not a must have, but a worthy addition.
Rob Pingel
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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 08:12:42 -0000
From: Joop
Subject: Hugo & Luigi
Country Paul:
> Hugo & Luigi's "Just Come Home" is (as I learned here) a US remake
> of an Italian hit. Imagine a rock-a-ballad sung by a choir - not a
> group, a choir. To my ears, it works. RCA released it in 1960.
According to the next link "Just come home" has French origins:
http://www.songwritershalloffame.org/discog_detail.asp?exhibitId=233
I couldn't play your MP3 at Musica, but if "Just come home" is
written by Marguerite Monnot and Carl Sigman, then it is possibly a
translation of "C'est l'amour qui fait" a song written by Marguerite
Monnot and Edith Gassion (which is Edith Piaf).
Joop greets
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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:35:26 -0400
From: Joe Nelson
Subject: Brute Force
Country Paul:
> Brute Force's "Adam And Evening" is a "ripping" (listen, you'll
> hear) miniature symphonic movement with more hooks than a fly-
> fisherman. It's produced and backed by the Tokens and is probably
> from 1970 or 1971 (someone can correct me on this).
Coming from the guy who did the notorious "King Of Fuh" for Apple
Records, this is a classic.
Joe Nelson
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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 00:07:07 EDT
From: Austin Roberts
Subject: Sharon Farley
Has anyone ever heard of The Fountain Of Love by Sharon Farley (male)
from the 60's?
Austin Roberts
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