________________________________________________________________________ SPECTROPOP - Spectacular! Retro! Pop! ________________________________________________________________________ There are 18 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Re: Caroline Munro / Teenage Opera From: Joop 2. Beatles novelties or Life is very short... From: Andres 3. Re: Vinnie Bell From: Dana Countryman 4. Re: The Association New Memories album From: Bob Celli 5. John Schroeder From: David Bell 6. Re: Beatles novelties or Life is very short... From: Gary Myers 7. Re: "Open The Door To Your Heart" by the Mob From: Simon White 8. Re: Beatles novelties or Life is very short... From: Phil X Milstein 9. Re: Vinnie Bell From: Phil X Milstein 10. Shirley Ellis / Sweet Inspirations / Sue Lynn / Chris Andrews From: Will Stos 11. Re: Fowley, K.I., R.U. and U.T. From: Phil X Milstein 12. Top 50 for September 2005 - Willie C's R'n'B Beach Music Café on Live365.com From: Willie C 13. Marc Eric From: Mike Bennidict 14. Re: The Association New Memories album From: Mike Bennidict 15. 1950's LA rock & roll From: Paul Oliverio 16. The Lion is still sleeping From: Artie Wayne 17. Re: Vinnie Bell From: John DeAngelis 18. Re: Beatles novelties or Life is very short... From: Gary Myers ________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 18:09:23 -0000 From: Joop Subject: Re: Caroline Munro / Teenage Opera Great story Mark, Keith West and Steve Howe. Reminds me of their group Tomorrow and the pscychedelic "My white bycicle". Nazareth had a UK hit with that song in 1975, just before they hit big in the USA with another cover: "Love hurts". "My white bycicle" was written by Keith Hopkins (the real name of Keith West) and Ken Burgess. Could it be that this song was already recorded in Keith and Ken's days in the groups "Four + One" or "In Crowd". Joop greets -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 09:19:14 -0000 From: Andres Subject: Beatles novelties or Life is very short... Dear Spectropoppers! There are still some songs missing in my collection: http://www.monstr66.narod.ru/my_wantlist.htm But still, I want to find all of them (within my present life). Please search in your basements or cellars or mezzanines, if you can find some of the songs. I'm open for any offers - trades, selling, whatever. Thank you, Andres -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 3 Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 16:30:02 -0000 From: Dana Countryman Subject: Re: Vinnie Bell James Botticelli: > Vinnie Bell, studio guitarist extraordinaire, frequently utilized > the 'underwater' guitar sound. So much so in fact that his name > often comes up as the father of that sound. At least in some > circles. Al Kooper: > Vinnie built his own pedals to get his unique underwater sound, > BTW. Thats why it was unique. Nobody else had the pedals. Hey, I'm a good friend of Vinnie's and had the pleasure to record with him at Bennett Sound in Englewood, NJ -- this was last November. Vinnie still carries his own custom pedals, which he has designed. It's all in a huge and HEAVY case with various UNMARKED footswitches. He's a bit secretive about how he gets his sounds. Only Vinnie knows what's inside the box, but he still does amazing things with his effects. I got him to use the "underwater" sound on a tune. It was awesome. Check out his web site at: http://www.vinniebell.com Cheers, Dana Countryman -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 4 Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 10:13:36 -0000 From: Bob Celli Subject: Re: The Association New Memories album Paul Urbahns: > The New memories album lists the group as Terry Kirkman; Julius > Alexander; Larry Ramos; Rus Giguere; Ted Buechel, Jr. and Rick > Ulsky. The liners state that Brian Cole died in 1972, and > therefore was not available. The Association songs were produced > by the Association and when any artist redoes and oldie most > folks compare it with the original. The remake always sounds > "different" and these do. The arrangemnts are totally but I can't > say bad, just more harmony which you would expect from that many > singers. Hi, Jim Yester was also on that lp but was not named. At least that's what he told us after a "Triple Gold" show a couple of years ago. Also, I was at Bobby Vee's session for "Fever", which was included on that lp, and he did a really hot version, that is until some hot shot producer in LA decided to remove the lead guitar part from the recording thus emasculating it! Bob Celli -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 5 Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 14:35:44 EDT From: David Bell Subject: John Schroeder Previously: > By the way, does anyone know if this "John Schroeder" is the same > guy who wrote Neil Christian's "A Little Bit Of Someone Else"? Was he the "Pied Piper" guy? Bloody good record that was! I don't recall the track you're asking about (though I sure would love to hear it!), but John Schroeder wrote a bunch of great stuff for Helen Shapiro. And he was also her cousin Susan Singer's mentor. I was so envious when a group of friends went to see the West End show based around the life of Joe Meek and John Schroeder was part of the outing. I would love to ask him about Susan, as so little seems to be known about her. Does anyone know how to contact him as I'd love to think that she is part of his forthcoming book? David -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 6 Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 12:27:18 -0700 From: Gary Myers Subject: Re: Beatles novelties or Life is very short... Andres: > There are still some songs missing in my collection: > http://www.monstr66.narod.ru/my_wantlist.htm I don't have the record, but I can give you some trivia on one of them, if interested. I knew the Canadian Beadles, and I also recorded for Tide. gem -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 7 Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 20:35:17 +0100 From: Simon White Subject: Re: "Open The Door To Your Heart" by the Mob Gary Myers wrote: > Yes. I show that as 1969, and the label was apparently the same > co. as Twilight, for which the Mob also had a previous release. A little bird tells me the Daylight 45 might be featured this week on The Metropolitan Soul Show - Starpointradio.com 1.30 -3.30pm GMT Sit on a potato pan, Otis Simon White -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 8 Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 16:33:21 -0400 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Re: Beatles novelties or Life is very short... Gary Myers wrote: > I knew the Canadian Beadles ... If ever a phrase bore elaboration, it is that one! Dig, --Phil M. -- How I Spent My Summer Vacation: http://www.philxmilstein.com/Summer05 -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 9 Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 16:41:43 -0400 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Re: Vinnie Bell Dana Countryman wrote: > Hey, I'm a good friend of Vinnie's and had the pleasure to record > with him at Bennett Sound in Englewood, NJ -- this was last > November. Vinnie still carries his own custom pedals, which he has > designed. Welcome, Dana -- great to see you at Spectropop! For those who don't know, Dana was the founder, editor and publisher of the late and lamented "Cool And Strange Music" magazine. I trust he'll have lots more stories for us along the lines of his Vinnie Bell tale, or at least be able to contribute some worthwhile insights and record info. Dig, --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 10 Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 21:10:43 -0000 From: Will Stos Subject: Shirley Ellis / Sweet Inspirations / Sue Lynn / Chris Andrews Hello group, A couple of questions for the experts: 1) I've just rediscovered a Shirley Ellis CD and am enjoying it a great deal. On some tracks the backing vocals stand out quite a bit. Does anyone know if the Sweet Inspirations or their forerunners sang on any of these? 2) I've also just received the latest Dreambabes CD (Stonefree and Sassy or is it vice versa) in the mail and LOVE it! A particular standout is the weird and wonderful "Reach For The Moon" by Sue Lynn. Is this the same lady who cut "Don't Pity Me"? And, although I doubt it, is there any relation to the Susan Lynn(e) who recorded the fab "Don't Drag No More"? Are any more of her cuts available on CD. 3) What particularly grabs me about the "Moon" song is the sound effect at the start. Does anyone have any idea what this is? I think the liner notes said Chris Andrews produced it (I don't have them handy). I can only describe it as some weird organ/vocoder mix... maybe. The whole arrangement and subject matter reminded me of the Three Degrees' song "Contact." Thanks, Will Stos : ) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 11 Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 17:32:14 -0400 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Re: Fowley, K.I., R.U. and U.T. Karl Ikola wrote: > Mark, I know you've posted here frequently in the past, but I > wasn't on the list then. I'm a very big Fowley fan, and love the > "Something New And Different" b/w "Lights" 45 (released in '67 > in the UK on Parlophone, and on Loma in the US). Fowley makes reference -- very positive reference, at that -- to Karl Ikola in his recent interview with Richie Unterberger. An excerpt appears in the new Ugly Things, and the full version is available at Unterberger's site: http://richieunterberger.com/fowley.html . While there, you might as well stay a while and read some of Richie's other interviews: http://richieunterberger.com/sitemap.html Meanwhile, Ugly Things #23 is another fine mess o' stuff on the Pretty Things, Downliners, Yardbirds and, yes, Misunderstood, but also The Belfast Gypsies, Mike Sheridan & Rick Price, Nervous Norvus, The (Singapore) Checkmates, and such obscurities as The Pilgrims, Michael Yonkers and Mike & The Ravens. Also, of course, almost enough reviews (to fill a horsecart) and, sadly, too many obituaries. Check it out at your corner newsstand, or at http://www.ugly-things.com/ Dig, --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 12 Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 22:44:30 +0000 From: Willie C Subject: Top 50 for September 2005 - Willie C's R'n'B Beach Music Café on Live365.com Willie C's R'n'B Beach Music Café on Live365.com Top 50 for September 2005 Pos.TitleArtistLabel 1 My Main Squeeze - Tams - Mossland Records 2 These Are The Songs - Attractions - New Horizons 3 Hold Onto The Blues - Lonnie Givens - Real Side Records 4 I Want A Love I Can See - Angel Rissoff - Angel Music 5 Full Steam Ahead - Sea-Cruz - One20inc 6 No One Loves You Better Than Me - Rickey Godfrey Band - Mossland Records 7 ‘Til The Day After - Craig Woolard - One20inc 8 Ain’t No Stopping Us Now - Sammy O’Banion & Mardi Gras - Bradley House 9 My Heart - Showvinistics - ForEverMore 10 Each & Every Kiss - Pat Carpenter Band - Intervox Records 11 Is The Magic Still There - Gary Brown - Ripete 12 Room At The Top - Sea-Cruz - One20inc 13 City of Angels - Jean Jacques Milteau - Sunnyside 14 Matter of Time - Tommy Black & Blooze - Surfside 15 Nothing Goes Better - Mike Stewart & Casey York - KHP Music 16 King of the Road - Billy Scott - Flip Side 17 Short’n Bread - Monzas - Ripete/Pacific 18 Something Smooth - Rick Strickland - One20inc 19 La Di Da - Holiday Band - One21inc 20 Got To Get Yourself Together - Valentines - Ripete 21 It Doesn’t Get Any Better Than This - Mark Roberts - One21inc 22 Emerald Eyes - Tyn Tymes - KHP Music 23 Boardwalk Angel - Marlissa - Bradley House 24 Dance The Night Away - Winstons - GAD Music 25 Hard Times - Queen Latifah - Interscope 26 Meet Me With Your Black Drawers On - Sea-Cruz - One20inc 27 Rainy Day Bells - Attractions - New Horizons 28 Hang On In There Baby - Donny & Susan Trexler - Beachbag 29 She Ain’t You - Con Hunley - IMMI Records 30 Boat Dock - Dave Freeman - Bradley House 31 No One - Don Wise & Delbert McClinton - Horn O’ Copia 32 Part Time Love - Donnie & Susan Trexler - Bradley House 33 Walkin’ the Dog/Money - Class of 60 Something - KHP Music 34 Don’t Wait Around - Elgins - Gold Soul 35 When You’re Only Lonely - Marty Ojeda - Mossland Records 36 Good To Go - Big John Thompson - KHP Music 37 Sugar Dumplin’ - John Goudy - One20inc 38 Don’t Let the Green Grass Fool You - Fabulous Shades - Mountain Rock Music 39 Build Me Up - Al Green - Bluenote 40 I Wanna Be At the Beach - Fabulous Shades - Mountain Rock Music 41 Don’t Ever Dream Alone - Terri Gore - Bradley House 42 Lovin’ On Ocean Drive - Tim Cashion - One20inc 43 For the Love of Him - Susan Trexler - Bradley House 44 Grand Strand Summertime - Footnotes - KHP Music 45 Electric Slide - Carolina Connection - Surfside 46 Big Blue Diamonds - Percy Sledge - Varese Sarabande 47 In My Lonely Room - Monzas - Ripete/Pacific 48 Just A Fool - Casey York - Surfside 49 Summer Girl - Goldrush Band - One20inc 50 My Heart’s Got A Mind - Marty Ojeda - One20inc http://www.live365.com/stations/williecs -- Willie C. See the Cafe at: http://www.BeachMusicCafe.com Listen to the Cafe at: http://www.live365.com/stations/williecs (843)455-6689 Member of The Academy of Carolina Beach Music #1050 The National Association Rhythm & Blues Dee Jay's The BMAI - Beach Music Association International -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 13 Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 00:41:34 -0000 From: Mike Bennidict Subject: Marc Eric Anyone know about Marc Eric? I know a couple of tunes by him, California and where Have The Girls of Summer Gone. Mike -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 14 Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 00:30:22 -0000 From: Mike Bennidict Subject: Re: The Association New Memories album I understand their 1st single release was a song called One Too Many mornings released in 1965 and was a local hit in L.A. and didn't do well nationally. What i'm wondering is what part of the year was it released? I ask because their 1st national hit cherish was released in the fall of 1966 I believe and I don't know of any other songs by them in between those releases. Mike -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 15 Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 17:46:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Oliverio Subject: 1950's LA rock & roll Is there anyone in Spectropopland familiar with the early Fifties scene in Los Angeles. Some names that prevailed were Johnny "Guitar" Watson, Richard Berry, Jessie Belvin, the Platters, the Coasters.... If so PLEASE contact me. Paul Oliverio -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 16 Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 23:21:59 +0100 From: Artie Wayne Subject: The Lion is still sleeping I'm grateful to all of the Spectropoppers who have posted information and websites on Solomon Linda, the Black South African composer of "The Lion Sleeps Tonight", who was denied compensation because at the time of apartheid Blacks weren't allowed to collect royalties. He died penniless in the '60s. After reading several accounts, I came to the conclusion that it was more than a "Black" problem...it was a "Green" problem, as in American dollars! It's easy to believe that Jay Seigal and the Tokens brought the song to Hugo and Luigi, their producers and heads of A+R at RCA records in New York. In the early 60s', when I was friendly with the group, I used to sit around their office and jam with them on primative instruments and play African, Carribean and Brazilian rhythms, to folk songs they collected from around the world. I don't have any doubts that Hugo and Luigi and George Weiss [the writers listed on the song] believed that "Mbumbe" was a traditional African folk song, which was in the public domain. I'm not surprised that they claimed the copyright, being in the position of power they held at the time. Athough Linda's estate has been given a few thousand of the 15 million dollars the copyright has earned over the years, The Richmond Organizaton [the publisher in the U.S.] and the writers listed on the song have received the lion's share of the royalties. Linda's estate has never had proper representation and probably never will. How many lawyers would take on this case knowing there was little chance of making any money on a song that soon would fall into the public domain ? Sadly, Artie Wayne http://artiewayne.com -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 17 Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 01:06:26 -0000 From: John DeAngelis Subject: Re: Vinnie Bell Dana Countryman wrote: > Hey, I'm a good friend of Vinnie's and had the pleasure to record > with him at Bennett Sound in Englewood, NJ...Check out his web site > at: http://www.vinniebell.com With all due respect to the great Vinnie Bell, I am skeptical of the claim on his website that he played guitar on Donovan's "Sunshine Superman" and the Lovin Spoonful's "Do You Believe In Magic", "Daydream", "You Didn't Have To Be So Nice" and "Summer In The City". Vinnie deserves tons of credit for all the songs he did play on, but I'll bet money that that's Zal Yanovsky and John Sebastian playing the guitar parts on the the Lovin' Spoonful hits. John DeAngelis -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 18 Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 21:32:33 -0700 From: Gary Myers Subject: Re: Beatles novelties or Life is very short... Me, earlier: > I knew the Canadian Beadles ... Phil Milstein: > If ever a phrase bore elaboration, it is that one! I met them in Ishpeming, MI, when they were the Blue Echoes. They subsequently came out to SoCal (as did I) and I saw them out here a couple of times. Our lead guitarist also did a record with them as the Mojo Men. By that time, our band had returned to Milwaukee and changed our name to the Mojo Men. This gets very complicated. I did a story on the Tide/Edit labels for GM in '90, and it includes this info. The Canadian Beadles (the name was Tide's idea) were a trio and the two that I knew best were Vic Blunt - lead guitar and leader, and Paul Case - drums. I have a bit more if anyone wants it. gem -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- SPECTROPOP features: http://www.spectropop.com End