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There are 16 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Stones and P&G; Susan & the Cowsills
From: Country Paul
2. Re: The Mosaics
From: Kingsley Abbott
3. Re: The Treasures
From: Clark Besch
4. "Night Train To Nashville" Part 2
From: Willie C
5. DC5 into RNR Hall of Fame?
From: Clark Besch
6. Goldstar Studios
From: Mike Dugo
7. Re: Goldstar Studios
From: Max Weiner
8. Re: DC5 into RNR Hall of Fame?
From: Robert Pingel
9. Re: Discography Websites
From: Various
10. Harbingers query
From: Hugo M.
11. Re: Hunter Hancock
From: Andrew C Jones
12. Pete Best docu, Mr. Zimmerman and a heart broken
From: Chris Ponti
13. Re: Teddy Vann discography
From: Hasse Huss
14. Re: Columbia Hall of Fame and Epic's Memory Lane singles
From: Paul Urbahns
15. An Appointment With The Dentists
From: Joe Foster
16. Re: Cruisin' series
From: Phil X Milstein
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 09:55:51 -0400
From: Country Paul
Subject: Re: Stones and P&G; Susan & the Cowsills
Richard Havers wrote:
> I have posted the Rice Krispies ad to musica, along with another
> by Peter & Gordon for Macleans Toothpaste.
Peter & Gordon's track is typical P&G, but that Stones track rocks!
(Almost makes me want a bowl of ths stuff right now....) And thank
you and Curly for all that background info.
Phil M., thank you for posting the Susan Cowsill story. I have "Just
Believe It," and have raved about it here in the recent past. The
title song is a total gem, and it's impressive that she is able to
maintain her optimism. The family in general seems to have had a
tough go of it over the years, and I wish them luck, healing and
happiness. Has Barry Cowsill been found yet? (If that news was
posted within the last week, I'm not caught up to that yet.)
Country Paul
(still behind, but working on it)
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:49:56 +0100
From: Kingsley Abbott
Subject: Re: The Mosaics
Sean asked:
> So you definetely think they are English, not American?
Yes -- for sure, and I'm almost certain they weren't to do with
Mood Mosaic, unless there was an individual in common, but agaIn
I'm pretty sure not.
Other good Brit drag songs to look out for:
The Majority: Shut 'Em Down In London Town
Episode Six: Mighty Morris Ten
Kingsley
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:46:06 -0000
From: Clark Besch
Subject: Re: The Treasures
Max Weiner wrote:
> And I was also wondering if anyone was able to come up with an
> answer about my question concerning the Phil Spector produced
> "Hold me Tight", by the Treasures. My question was, when and if
> it ever charted, and what position it held on the charts. I had
> asked if it was an LA local hit on KFWB, as I don't recall
> hearing it in the Chicago area on either WLS or WCFL.
Hi Max, I checked WLS and KFWB charts and no Treasures to be found!
WCFL was not top 40 at the time. Sorry, Clark
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 23:01:00 +0000
From: Willie C
Subject: "Night Train To Nashville" Part 2
This just in from Buzz Cason:
Don't miss
Buzz Cason and The Originators
~Randy Layne, Milton Cavendar, Marshall Pearson~
Saturday, Oct. 1st
Noon
at the
Ford Theatre
Country Music Hall of Fame and Museum
222 Fifth Ave. S. Nashville
Concert is free!
Join us as we kick off a day of celebrating the release of
"NIGHT TRAIN TO NASHVILLE"
Music City Rhythm and Blues
1945 - 1970
Vol. Two
CMF on Lost Highway Records
If you call the office at 383-8682, I will arrange for a
complimentary ticket for that day to the "Night Train To
Nashville" exhibit. Be our guests!
The exhibit closes 12-31-05!!!
Our thanks to the Hall of Fame for inviting us to be a part of
this exciting event. Original Nashville Rhythm and Blues artists
will perform all afternoon at the theatre. Don't miss it!!
Rock on!
Buzz
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 15:19:58 -0000
From: Clark Besch
Subject: DC5 into RNR Hall of Fame?
Can it be? I just read where the Dave Clark 5 is on the ballot for
induction into the Rock 'N Roll Hall of Fame? How amazing is that?
Ever since the beginning, the Hall has steered clear of such
nonsense. Why now has the Hall came to there senses with a group that
epitomizes what is great about rock 'n roll--high energy music
combined with RNB in a 2 minute powderkeg. Have I been watching the
Dylan documentary too close and now feel the need to look deeper into
such things? Is it that Mike Smith has had such a tragic accident
that they feel now that it is time? It's just wierd! I guess my
thoughts of changing the Hall into the "Rock n Roll Museum" should be
re-looked at??......NAW! Justin Hayward, beware of ladders.
Clark
PS. Might seem this doesn't belong on S'Pop, but Phil S himself
hosted the DC5 on both a TV show and special in which he lawded their
greatness--deserved or not.
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:18:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mike Dugo
Subject: Goldstar Studios
Max Weiner wrote:
> Has anyone ever gotten a response from the GoldStar Studios
> Website concerning when they were going to be selling any of
> their memorabilia? I actually got an e-mail once from them
> saying it would be soon, but that was close to a year ago, (or
> so it seems).
I wasn't aware Goldstar had a website, and couldn't locate it via
Google. What is the URL? Thanks.
Mike
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:39:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: Max Weiner
Subject: Re: Goldstar Studios
Mike Dugo wrote:
> I wasn't aware Goldstar had a website, and couldn't locate
> it via Google. What is the URL? Thanks.
Mike; Here you go, my freind;
http://www.goldstarrecordingstudios.com
max
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:03:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: Robert Pingel
Subject: Re: DC5 into RNR Hall of Fame?
Back in the 60's the DC5 (albeit very popular) were the Rodney
Dangerfields of pop music. They were swept in on the coattails
of the Beatles, and even their most ardent fans knew which of
these groups ruled the roost. Unfortunately their reputation was
diminished because they didn't happen to be as good as the
greatest band that ever lived. At the same time, it seemed that
the unwritten consensus was that they were definitely Number 2 in
the hierarchy (at least initially), and then Number 3 after the
Rolling Stones got rolling.
For the non-believers out there, I ask, what's not to like? These
blokes could rock (Glad All Over), headbang (Bits and Pieces),
write ballads with endless killer hooks (Because; Everybody
Knows), and give fresh interpretations of old favorites (Do You
Love Me; Reelin' & Rockin'; Over and Over).
Their only perceivable deadly sin was that they didn't get all
relevant and record a concept album like the Kinks, or pay
tribute to old bluesmen like the Animals.
I say, "let em in".
Rob Pingel
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 17:23:45 EDT
From: Various
Subject: Re: Discography Websites
Country Paul wrote:
> Anyone else know of amazing labor-of-love reference sites like
> [the discography sites I mentioned]?
Two off the top of my head:
Both Sides Now Publications Album Discographies, with pictures
and histories: http://www.bsnpubs.com/discog.html
Soulful Kinda Music Label Discographies:
http://www.soulfulkindamusic.net/labels.htm
Enjoy,
S.J. Dibai
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I'm not sure how relevant this site will be to Spectropop. It's
entitled "Rockin' Country Style" and is a discography of Country
Rock And Roll Records and Related Records from 1951-1964. I
think it sometimes may list only those genres, but they have a
ton of labels listed:
http://rcs.law.emory.edu/rcs/_ (http://rcs.law.emory.edu/rcs/
Bgas
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Find a very cool Screamin' Jay Hawkins 45s discography at:
http://home.datacomm.ch/mik/ba/h/hawkins_jay/records/records_singles.html
Now let the feast of the mau-mau begin!
--Phil M.
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 04:48:39 -0000
From: Hugo M.
Subject: Harbingers query
The Harbingers, loovly Byrds-like folk-rock group on Columbia,
never been mentioned in the S.pop archives -- maybe if I throw
the name out, someone will have info or reminiscences to share.
According to www.singlesdb.com , they put out 4 45.s
Come Into My World/Down Around The River
COLUMBIA 44290 67
It's Time That You Settled Down/Tompkins Square
COLUMBIA 44417 68
April Come She Will/Bridge (The)
COLUMBIA 44490 68
Can't Express My Love For You/Why Does It Have To Change
COLUMBIA 44560 68
Does anyone know of others? What I'm trying to track down is a
"protest song", criticizing the anti-war movement. None of these
titles seem to be exactly 'it', so if anyone could set me on the
right track, I'd be mos' grateful, yes I would.
Papa Oom Mow Mow --
Hugo M.
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 23:29:16 -0400
From: Andrew C Jones
Subject: Re: Hunter Hancock
There's also an article about Hancock at www.recordsbymail.com , but it
may be much the same as the Doo-Wop Association article.
I have the "Cruisin' 1959" album which features Hancock in action, and I'd
like to hear more of him.
ACJ
"Optimism works. It is more useful than pessimism." - E.Y. Harburg
U.P. Grooves!:
http://community.webtv.net/andrucharlz/UPGROOVESTheUpper
or
http://makeashorterlink.com/?P3D352CBB
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 04:14:41 -0000
From: Chris Ponti
Subject: Pete Best docu, Mr. Zimmerman and a heart broken
The heart that was broken was my own watching the Pete Best PBS
documentary. It shed a funny kind of light on Scorsese's Dylan piece.
I had spent Sunday at a tribute for a much-loved man, John Herald of
The Greenbriar Boys. By Washington Square Arch, many of his old cronies
celebrated his life in music. It continued into the night at a club
in the Lower East Side. That night of bluegrass led into two nights
of watching the Dylan docu, followed tonight by an amazing examination
of Pete Best and his history with The Beatles. This all made me think
about the man versus the work.
Bereft of the weight of his body of work, it would be hard to cite
one person in the Dylan piece who had much positive to say about Dylan
the human being. He stole records, he used any leg up he could and
never reciprocated when fortune found him. I knew Dylan in the Village
and he was not someone who inspired affection among people he knew,
either in the folk or pop worlds. I guess the upshot of my thinking was
how Best (impoverished though his accomplishments are) came off versus
the way Dylan did. Best, though he can be viewed as the biggest loser
of our era, at least in the world of music, came off so much more
sympathetically than Mr. Zimmerman.
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 01:46:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: Hasse Huss
Subject: Re: Teddy Vann discography
Will Stos asked:
> Was "The Jet Set" by the Jet Set also done by Teddy Vann?
Yes, it was. Teddy Vann is listed as the producer of 'The Jet Set' (Blaine 4000),
the first release on Jerry Blaine's (Jubilee, Josie) eponymous label in 1965. Composers
are Teddy Vann and Fred Williams, the same credits incidentally as for Freddy Williams
& The Shindigs' 'Let's Shindig' on Zizz 0001. The Jet Set flip, by the way, is 'Swing,
Swing Jet', another throwaway instrumental, though it uses a different backing track.
Hasse Huss
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 09:22:05 -0400
From: Paul Urbahns
Subject: Re: Columbia Hall of Fame and Epic's Memory Lane singles
Al Quaglieri wrote:
> Here's a brief history of Columbia's "Hall Of Fame" and Epic's
> "Memory Lane" reissue 45's.
Thanks to Al Quaglieri for the brief history lesson. I am sure most of us
have at least one, and many times more than one of these singles in our
collections.
One thing I always liked about these series is all the reissue singles I
have found were the real hit versions from the actual single release. There
may be exceptions in quality control, but I have not seen them issue a weak
album track as a Hall Of Fame or Memory Lane single.
I read in an online Barbra Streisand discography that stated the reissue
singles in this series was the only place to get many of her hits in their
original form (other than the original single), as the CD reissues use album
tracks. I would venture this is true with many artists. In some cases it is
just EQ different betweeen the hit single and album version, but sometimes
it is edits, a different mix and reusing passages, or instrumentation.
Too bad Columbia (excuse me, "Sony") doesn't issue a series of CDs made
from the original singles masters used in this series.
Paul Urbahns
Radcliff, KY
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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 12:14:15 +0100
From: Joe Foster
Subject: An Appointment With The Dentists
To celebrate Rev-Ola's 20th anniversary deluxe CD reissue of The
Dentists' Some People Are On The Pitch They Think It's All Over
It Is Now album, Cherry Red, in conjunction with the band, invite
you to An Appointment With The Dentists!
on Monday October 10th 2005 at
The Heavenly Social
5 Little Portland Street
London W1
http://www.thesocial.com/pages/findus.html#
The fun starts at around 7:00-7:30 but if you fancy coming along
earlier, some of us will be whetting our whistle just round the
corner in The Champion, 13 Wells Street, London W1
http://www.professorharbottle.co.uk/pub/londonwestend/champion.html
DJs include Andy Morten (Rev-Ola/Shindig!), Doug Shipton (Cherry
Red/Delay 68/Finders Keepers) and The Dentists themselves with a
couple of as yet unconfirmed special guests spinning a mixture of
contemporary mid 80s indie pop, 70s punk and new wave, 60s pop,
garage and psychedelia.
See you there!
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Message: 16
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 12:40:11 -0400
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Re: Cruisin' series
Andrew C. Jones wrote:
> I have the "Cruisin' 1959" album which features Hancock in action,
> and I'd like to hear more of him.
The patter for that series were re-creations, were they not? The
text on that H.H. page implies his was from an authentic aircheck,
but the couple I have sure sound re-done, plus it seems to make
more sense that they would be.
--Phil M.
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